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		<title>By: paul_unalaska</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/five-leftist-myths-about-health-care-reform/#comment-375522</link>
		<dc:creator>paul_unalaska</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 06:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leave it to the Left in surprisingly &#039;going off topic&#039; - but I&#039;ll bite.

Now and Then - &#039;. . of course Clinton was talking about flirting..&#039;

Wow, so what Bill did was &#039;flirting&#039;?  Maybe I&#039;m old fashioned or a fuddy duddy but I thought the actions of POTUS requires more decorum.  What else.. oh yeah - honesty, in a court of law.  Perhaps that&#039;s why he was impeached, disbarred.  Maybe..

As for Gonzalez, yeah the guy was scum and eventually left office.  I believe Bush learned you shouldn&#039;t hire your friends.

Speaking of which, poor old Vince Foster learned that the hard way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leave it to the Left in surprisingly &#8216;going off topic&#8217; &#8211; but I&#8217;ll bite.</p>
<p>Now and Then &#8211; &#8216;. . of course Clinton was talking about flirting..&#8217;</p>
<p>Wow, so what Bill did was &#8216;flirting&#8217;?  Maybe I&#8217;m old fashioned or a fuddy duddy but I thought the actions of POTUS requires more decorum.  What else.. oh yeah &#8211; honesty, in a court of law.  Perhaps that&#8217;s why he was impeached, disbarred.  Maybe..</p>
<p>As for Gonzalez, yeah the guy was scum and eventually left office.  I believe Bush learned you shouldn&#8217;t hire your friends.</p>
<p>Speaking of which, poor old Vince Foster learned that the hard way.</p>
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		<title>By: Elaine</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/five-leftist-myths-about-health-care-reform/#comment-375234</link>
		<dc:creator>Elaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 17:36:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone remember long years ago when there was no healthcare bureaucracy?  Before Lyndon Johnson busted up families, requiring a father to leave home in order for mom and kids to receive a pittance from the federal government?  The mom and kids who were infinitely better off with a dad at home even though money was tight?  The federal government had no rights to come into your life with bureaucrats seizing children and placing them in nightmare foster care where many times, the money earned was the incentive to be foster care providers?  Honest overhaul of this healthcare debacle should begin with purging the lobbyists who ply our government employees with incentives to do all the wrong things that do not represent we who supposedly put these officials in office.  Insurance companies long ago, did not have huge bonus pay-outs to employees who could deny contractual coverage the most.  Heads of corporations didn&#039;t have millions of dollars bonus incentives to corrupt the business of upholding contracts faithfully paid by consumers for a rainy day.  Creation of the Food and Drug Administration that has a revolving door up top with government to lucrative big pharma, big business that rewards looking the other way when our food and water systems are corrupted with excitotoxins, flluoride waste from aluminum industries, vaccines with thimerosol, and mercury.  Substitutes for food become mainstream in our diets, like Aspartame, dyes, genetically modified genes placed into our foods, cloned foods.  We are a nation under attack from every side.  We call our representatives and the recorded message is, &quot;goodbye.&quot;  We call C-Span and attempt to reason only to be cut off and when mainstream media film the paltry and few town meetings quickly assembled and they hear an angry, frustrated voice trying to reason that there should have been criminal investigations and jail time instead of bail-outs, that our Congressional and Senatorial employees should have consulted &quot;the People&quot; on such life-changing matters as who should be in control of our choices...ourselves or some government bureaucrat (totally breaking our Republic contract and Our Constitution...what can one think but betrayal?  What is there left of the once precious liberties and pursuit of life?  Make no mistake, when the federal government slipped into state run education systems, the changes for the worse came within one generation.  Why?  Because when you take control of the children, you shape the future as you wish it to be.  There are no civics classes, discussions of The Constitution and our rights within the amendments.  No history but what is shaped as history.  Don&#039;t believe one crying in the wilderness.  Search the source.  Take on ones&#039; word for it.  Find out for yourself. Since when does a flurry of Executive Orders written by a president trump the precious document that binds Americans in freedom together and with unalienable rights?  Look at what has come upon us all with the deaths of our president, John F. Kennedy and freedom fighter and peaceful activist for what is right under Almighty God, the Reverend Martin Luther King Jr.  Do you know what he said in depth?  Or do you know merely a few famous phrases from his stirring speeches?  One can always measure the immense importance of leaders who appear in time by how they are dealt with by those who hold the power.  They have an inner light that cannot be corrupted.  That makes them dangerous to those who will take you where you do not wish to go.  That begs the question in all of us, where do you wish to go and what of those who will come after you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone remember long years ago when there was no healthcare bureaucracy?  Before Lyndon Johnson busted up families, requiring a father to leave home in order for mom and kids to receive a pittance from the federal government?  The mom and kids who were infinitely better off with a dad at home even though money was tight?  The federal government had no rights to come into your life with bureaucrats seizing children and placing them in nightmare foster care where many times, the money earned was the incentive to be foster care providers?  Honest overhaul of this healthcare debacle should begin with purging the lobbyists who ply our government employees with incentives to do all the wrong things that do not represent we who supposedly put these officials in office.  Insurance companies long ago, did not have huge bonus pay-outs to employees who could deny contractual coverage the most.  Heads of corporations didn&#8217;t have millions of dollars bonus incentives to corrupt the business of upholding contracts faithfully paid by consumers for a rainy day.  Creation of the Food and Drug Administration that has a revolving door up top with government to lucrative big pharma, big business that rewards looking the other way when our food and water systems are corrupted with excitotoxins, flluoride waste from aluminum industries, vaccines with thimerosol, and mercury.  Substitutes for food become mainstream in our diets, like Aspartame, dyes, genetically modified genes placed into our foods, cloned foods.  We are a nation under attack from every side.  We call our representatives and the recorded message is, &#8220;goodbye.&#8221;  We call C-Span and attempt to reason only to be cut off and when mainstream media film the paltry and few town meetings quickly assembled and they hear an angry, frustrated voice trying to reason that there should have been criminal investigations and jail time instead of bail-outs, that our Congressional and Senatorial employees should have consulted &#8220;the People&#8221; on such life-changing matters as who should be in control of our choices&#8230;ourselves or some government bureaucrat (totally breaking our Republic contract and Our Constitution&#8230;what can one think but betrayal?  What is there left of the once precious liberties and pursuit of life?  Make no mistake, when the federal government slipped into state run education systems, the changes for the worse came within one generation.  Why?  Because when you take control of the children, you shape the future as you wish it to be.  There are no civics classes, discussions of The Constitution and our rights within the amendments.  No history but what is shaped as history.  Don&#8217;t believe one crying in the wilderness.  Search the source.  Take on ones&#8217; word for it.  Find out for yourself. Since when does a flurry of Executive Orders written by a president trump the precious document that binds Americans in freedom together and with unalienable rights?  Look at what has come upon us all with the deaths of our president, John F. Kennedy and freedom fighter and peaceful activist for what is right under Almighty God, the Reverend Martin Luther King Jr.  Do you know what he said in depth?  Or do you know merely a few famous phrases from his stirring speeches?  One can always measure the immense importance of leaders who appear in time by how they are dealt with by those who hold the power.  They have an inner light that cannot be corrupted.  That makes them dangerous to those who will take you where you do not wish to go.  That begs the question in all of us, where do you wish to go and what of those who will come after you?</p>
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		<title>By: Financial Planner Minnesota</title>
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		<dc:creator>Financial Planner Minnesota</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 02:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.guyclairmontfinancial.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Financial Planner Minnesota&lt;/a&gt;

I beleive this health care will be good for the United States. It will give more people be health coverage that can&#039;t find a job. I feel for those people.</description>
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<p>I beleive this health care will be good for the United States. It will give more people be health coverage that can&#8217;t find a job. I feel for those people.</p>
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		<title>By: Now and Then</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 22:57:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Myth #6 - You people know what you&#039;re talking about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Myth #6 &#8211; You people know what you&#8217;re talking about.</p>
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		<title>By: Now and Then</title>
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		<dc:creator>Now and Then</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 22:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>372. paul_unalaska:

Wow, almost as many as Alberto Gonzalez . . . of course Clinton was talking about flirting and Alberto was talking about torture and politicizing the justice department and firing us attorneys. But I&#039;m sure you see them as the same. He had a lot more reason to BS than Bill did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>372. paul_unalaska:</p>
<p>Wow, almost as many as Alberto Gonzalez . . . of course Clinton was talking about flirting and Alberto was talking about torture and politicizing the justice department and firing us attorneys. But I&#8217;m sure you see them as the same. He had a lot more reason to BS than Bill did.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Weimer</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/five-leftist-myths-about-health-care-reform/#comment-374234</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Weimer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 18:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;377. vivo:2. 

....To acquiesce willingly; be compliant: asked the child to cooperate and go to bed. (not this one)&lt;/i&gt;

Actually, I think you do mean this one. When the &quot;opposition&quot; is shut out from discussion (or demagogued or expressing opposition), not allowed to amend, or even discuss their ideas for this health care plan tells me that&#039;s EXACTLY what you mean. 

How can we &quot;work together&quot; if your side won&#039;t let us?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>377. vivo:2. </p>
<p>&#8230;.To acquiesce willingly; be compliant: asked the child to cooperate and go to bed. (not this one)</i></p>
<p>Actually, I think you do mean this one. When the &#8220;opposition&#8221; is shut out from discussion (or demagogued or expressing opposition), not allowed to amend, or even discuss their ideas for this health care plan tells me that&#8217;s EXACTLY what you mean. </p>
<p>How can we &#8220;work together&#8221; if your side won&#8217;t let us?</p>
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		<title>By: Cory</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 16:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Conservative plan for successful Health Care Reform - How about starting with Tort reform?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Conservative plan for successful Health Care Reform &#8211; How about starting with Tort reform?</p>
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		<title>By: Peter the Bubblehead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter the Bubblehead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 16:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Dr, John, you are in the solid minority of doctors, because every other doctor I have read about, heard from, or read on forums like this are all against Obamacare as nothing more than a massive socilaist power grab that will ruin any incentive to become a doctor and practice medicine.

Tell me how you would feel if, after this boondogle passes, the government then tells you you can only earn $X per year and no more, and that X is significantly below what you are currently earning.

HC3200 Page 127 Lines 1-16.

Take a look for yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Dr, John, you are in the solid minority of doctors, because every other doctor I have read about, heard from, or read on forums like this are all against Obamacare as nothing more than a massive socilaist power grab that will ruin any incentive to become a doctor and practice medicine.</p>
<p>Tell me how you would feel if, after this boondogle passes, the government then tells you you can only earn $X per year and no more, and that X is significantly below what you are currently earning.</p>
<p>HC3200 Page 127 Lines 1-16.</p>
<p>Take a look for yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: John B. Sullivan MD, MBA</title>
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		<dc:creator>John B. Sullivan MD, MBA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 14:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Conservatives continue to distort the truth about health care reform. As a practicing physician and past health care CEO I can absolutely guarantee you that America does not have a capable, competent health care system. Obama&#039;s health care reform is required therapy for the illness of our health care non-system. The best health plans on planet earth are Medicare and Tricare, both solid socialized, competent and cost efficient health plans.The changes Obama seeks are rational and reasonable and supported by most professional medical societies. If you conservatives are so concerned about cost then realize that we waste $1.2 trillion a year on non-productive unnecessary care. With that savings you conservatives could invade a different country every year. I have yet to read or hear a rational discussion on health care reform from any conservative source. Are you aware of the published scientific study on political conservatism that defines your political cognitive motivations? It&#039;s published in Psychological Reviews, May 2003. Fear and a drive towards inequality form the basis of your motivations. I wonder of therapy for this dysfunction is included in health reform?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Conservatives continue to distort the truth about health care reform. As a practicing physician and past health care CEO I can absolutely guarantee you that America does not have a capable, competent health care system. Obama&#8217;s health care reform is required therapy for the illness of our health care non-system. The best health plans on planet earth are Medicare and Tricare, both solid socialized, competent and cost efficient health plans.The changes Obama seeks are rational and reasonable and supported by most professional medical societies. If you conservatives are so concerned about cost then realize that we waste $1.2 trillion a year on non-productive unnecessary care. With that savings you conservatives could invade a different country every year. I have yet to read or hear a rational discussion on health care reform from any conservative source. Are you aware of the published scientific study on political conservatism that defines your political cognitive motivations? It&#8217;s published in Psychological Reviews, May 2003. Fear and a drive towards inequality form the basis of your motivations. I wonder of therapy for this dysfunction is included in health reform?</p>
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		<title>By: vivo</title>
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		<dc:creator>vivo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 05:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>375. Jeff Weimer:

&quot;Umm, what do you mean by “cooperate”? &quot;

co·op·er·ate:

1. To work or act together toward a common end or purpose.
2. To acquiesce willingly; be compliant: asked the child to cooperate and go to bed. (not this one)
3. To form an association for common, usually economic, benefit.

376. Paul of Alexandria:

Thanks, but I said this on #354:

Rankings and statistics can be misleading, but this was the only ranking that I found.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>375. Jeff Weimer:</p>
<p>&#8220;Umm, what do you mean by “cooperate”? &#8221;</p>
<p>co·op·er·ate:</p>
<p>1. To work or act together toward a common end or purpose.<br />
2. To acquiesce willingly; be compliant: asked the child to cooperate and go to bed. (not this one)<br />
3. To form an association for common, usually economic, benefit.</p>
<p>376. Paul of Alexandria:</p>
<p>Thanks, but I said this on #354:</p>
<p>Rankings and statistics can be misleading, but this was the only ranking that I found.</p>
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