Fires, Cars: More Deadly Than Nuclear Power!
2.Far less immediately destructive than the earthquake and tsunami in Japan, the nuclear power plant problems seem to be on their way to resolution, one way or another. Nevertheless, they have caused much “rethinking” in Germany, where
Judging by the near-panic with which Europe’s largest nation is responding to the Fukushima incident, one might assume that a toxic cloud had already arrived.
The whole world is anxiously watching the video footage showing plumes of smoke rising from the stricken plant, and questions are being asked in most countries about the safety of nuclear power.
But the reaction has been strikingly angst-ridden in Germany, which is over 5,500 miles away from Japan. The Japanese, one could be forgiven for thinking, are facing their plight with a lot more stoicism than the Germans.
There is less panic in Israel, but Prime Minister Netanyahu said on March 17:
We had some research plans but not anything on a significant scale, and I don’t think we’re going to pursue civil nuclear energy in the coming years.
He added that since Israel found a significant amount of natural gas offshore, “I think we’ll go for the gas and skip the nuclear.”
El Presidente Chávez of Venezuela, a great visionary, has
announced a freeze in plans to develop nuclear power in Venezuela due to the growing emergency at a nuke plant in earthquake-stricken Japan.
“It’s very sad what has been seen, a tragedy, a catastrophe. What’s happening in the last few hours is absolutely risky and dangerous for the entire world,” said Chavez with regard to the ongoing events in Japan.
President Obama has already ordered a safety review of all one hundred and four operational nuclear power plants in the United States, a good start, but no more.
Anti-nuclear activists-and-crawlers have been crawling actively, showing us the way, the truth, and the light. A Chernobyl-on-the-Hudson has been said to be possible even with a magnitude 7.0 earthquake. There are “very long odds, but as the lottery ads say, hey, you never know.” It may be that
a Chernobyl-on-the-Hudson would pose a dire threat to people as far as 500 miles away and necessitate the evacuation of 93 million Americans and Canadians for as long as a year.
Specific and highly reliable information of this sort is obviously good and far more is needed; action must be taken in due course, in the fullness of time, and following ample studies, deliberations, bipartisan compromises, and meetings of the mind.
3. Immediately, however, even more intense and rigorous rethinking must attend the far worse dangers inherent in other sources of energy, particularly all which are both dangerous and environmentally unfriendly. Effective steps can and must be taken immediately to ameliorate these deadly problems. Use of unnatural resources has caused far more human death and suffering than even the recent nuclear disaster in Japan plus that years ago at Chernobyl — thought to have been the worst in history. Unless steps are taken immediately, fire and its ancillary demons will continue to plague us. It must be kept firmly in mind, however, that all sources of energy — even Gaia-given and therefore natural wind can cause death and destruction when used to power unnatural man-made wind turbines.
By the Lord Harry, Dan is right. Except for the bicycles. Two wheels are an insult to those people who do not subscribe to the binary fixation our modern world has. The transgendered, lesbian, gay and bi-sexual already have enough dismissal and discrimination without having to add bicycles to their woes. And if it is jobs he is looking for, well, empowered women are just about the only positive that has come out of our increasingly stinky world, so we need a Government Stimulus Program to get women into the carriage business. Women can carry people intercity, interstate even; and part-time, flexible-option women can serve as taxis in our local areas. Real conversation might return as all the carriers will be multi-tasking communication experts.
Oops. You cannot advocate using horses or donkeys to pull vehicles, as that is enslaving animals. PETA will sue.
Of course, you can always have humans harnessed up, fitted with bridles and cross-trainers, and make them pull surreys, etc.
The “Friends of Gaia” will be happy to sit on top and wield the whip to ensure that they do their job diligently. While no doubt making them listen to endless “Earth Power!” and “Get Rid Of Humans!” screeds on iPods.
The difference between a “deep-ecologist”, a totalitarian, and a nihilist is one of semantics, not substance.
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Well, if Obama has his way, we won’t have ANY form of energy. He won’t allow new nuclear power plants to be built (even the ones on the drawing board have been there for years), he HATES coal, and won’t let us drill more for our own oil and natural gas. So I’m thinking, “What’s left?” And please, if anybody talks to me about windmills again I’m going to puke. How many windmills will it take to produce enough electricity for New York City, or Los Angeles, or Chicago, or any other major city? I’m sick of Obama chasing windmills. We need everything we can get our hands on, which is why the Europeans are so desperate to get their hands on Libyan oil. They are not stupid. Libya is very close to Europe, transport costs from Libya to Europe are very low, and there’s lots of oil. I never thought I’d say this, but the “Green” Europeans are now a lot more pragmatic and aggressive about getting their own oil than Obama and the United States is. Well, if you live long enough, few things will surprise you. This still does.
Energy safety is the end result of a number of very difficult subjects taught in engineering school, then followed by years of disciplined practice. By its nature, it is lethally dangerous, if uncontrolled. By its nature, its exploitation, it is only useful, if it is economical. (Hungry people do not live in unheated homes due to personal preference.) My country, America, has struggled with the pros and cons of energy for two generations, yet has never formed a viable policy, on a matter of life and death. Positions of leadership, e.g. Nuclear Regulatory Commissioner, which once was chaired by the geniuses of the complex technology, are now held by people who come from Capital Hill, lawyers, political science majors, or academics. Unaided, they could not find the front door of a nuke. Most can not read a drawing.
The compliment to any applied technology is commerce, cost, an intense study by engineers. An engineer, by definition, holds hands with a businessman and a scientist. He is neither, but if he lets go of either hand, he ceases to be an engineer. Yet, I challenge anyone to recall any experienced engineer, in the last two generations, who spoke to the nation on energy, via the national media. America is led by lawyers, or businessmen, technically ignorant people. As the recent financial debacle has proven, they are not good at judging financial risk. Are they any better at judging the relative risks of dying, due to energy?
There is enormous, albeit ignorant fear, of various forms of energy, which rests on the hate and distrust of large organizations, and corrupt politicians. People do not hate a gamma ray; they have no idea what it is. They hate GE, or the NRC, with some ill formed reason.
America’s energy infrastructure is creaky. The grid may collapse; it will become hideously expensive, beyond middle class people’s ability to pay. To continue our standard of living, we must allow engineers to function, under the following rules:
Thou shalt not lie, and
Thou shalt not steal.
Lawyers, businessmen, and scientists can come to the meeting, sit in the back, and must obey the rules.
I hate to break the news to you, but engineers are just as corruptible by political fads as anyone else. Case in point: mass transit. You can’t have a rational discussion with those people. I’ve tried. They’re religious fanatics. They may not be corrupt in the economic sense, but they’re corrupt in the sense that they consider the public’s interests and wishes to be irrelevant, because they’re working toward a higher good.
Sorry, but if you put engineers in charge of policy, you’ll just get more political prostitutes like in the climate science field, only with the letters “PE” after their names.
You are absolutely right. As an ex-engineer at a major battery company, I know that besides an economic self interest, some engineers have distorted sense of what is practical. I’m sure there are windmill and solar power engineers that will argue the viability of replacing carbon-based energy power with wind and solar. This must be so, because Jeff Immelt, the GE CEO who advises Obama on economic policies also advises Obama that sooner or later wind and solar power will replace oil and coal as leading energy sources. And I’m sure that Immelt gets his information from his engineers. But maybe he exaggerates. GE is a leader in both solar and wind power energy in the US, receiving hundreds of millions of dollars in subsidies every year from the federal government to maintain those divisions. They made billions in profit last year and didn’t pay any federal income taxes, but still received the subsidies. Immelt was also a proponent of cap-and-trade. I call that crony capitalism at its worst. Corporations like GE give free market capitalism a bad name.
GE is a leader in energy generating capital goods, period. Solar, wind, nuclear, gas, coal- doesn’t matter what the power source is, GE makes systems to build it. They’re just pushing solar and wind now because that’s where the money is, what with $25/MWh subsidies.
Add white sugar, cheap booze, and crossing the street without looking. Other hazards to health, mental as well as physical would be, unflushed toilets, Hollywood, ignorant, semi-literate school teachers, and Keith Olbermann.
Windmills and corn save lives. Government made poverty is the answer.
Vote Democrat, become a slave today, it’s our only hope.
There are only two things about this you can know with absolute certainty: we need to expand government to protect us from these dangers and taxes must be raised on everyone except the politicians and their friends who have special dispensations because they are morally superior.
A super ‘green’ zealot told me the other day that bovine flatulence causes earthquakes. She did mention that the impact on Mother Gaia was confined to the area surrounding the herd, so this would probably not cause a tsunami. She also said that Gaia is not happy about this, so we can expect to be punished.
Larry, you are correct, again, but look at the rules. Regardless of the alphabet soup after the name, technically educated people must obey the rules. Our experience is common: those who profess working toward the higher good, are, in fact, are often seeking higher office, more power. E.g. they seek the power to force people into mass transit, by fudging the costs and benefits. Some are just dumb, but others willing break the rules for private gain. (I omitted the rule governing chastity, or Washington D. C. would become a ghost town.)
Consider society’s technical failures: the BP oil well blowout, the New Orleans levees collapse, the I 35 W bridge collapse, the Bhopal disaster, the Challenger disaster, the Big Dig overruns, Three Mile Island, Chernobyl, the 35 year TVA nuke outages. Add your own known fiascoes. In each debacle, there were engineers who knew before the disaster occurred, that unbounded risks existed. Yet the organization went forward, and after the disaster, the CEO always claims no one told him, he is not a real expert, or was in high school when the decision was made. I suspect the captain of the Titanic was informed of high humidity reported in the engine compartment, and excessive ice in the drinks on deck. I suspect Ohm’s law may be true, but am certain of the law of organizations: whoever tells the big boss the unvarnished truth is transferred to Fukushima.
Because the boss does not want to know; he wants stock options. He violates both rules.
As technology becomes more potent, more lethal, we must tie liability for undue technical risk, over time, to decision makers. Our regulatory, litigious, corporate system has failed. Our technical societies are irrelevant. The game is how to obtain subsidies, get the appropriation, supported by sweet answers on technical risks which will occur after my funeral. E.g. if climate change is shown to be harmless, it will be proven while Al Gore’s grandchildren are enjoying his estate in their retirement. He carries no risk of being incorrect, while today, coal miners are betting 100% of their net worth. And their lives.
I propose that Al be required to know technology and cost, earn a P.E. (or something) or be shunned as an ignoramus. If any one violates either rule, their alphabet suffix vanishes with painful consequences.
Putting prostitutes in charge, with letters behind their name, signifying their contribution, would be no worse. As it stands, with out leaders, do not let your kids grow up to be PEs. Teach them Mandarin.
Not disagreeing with any of that. But that is a subject that you or I could both write books on, and maybe someone has. That’s at the heart of the climate issue; how to institutionally make high stakes decisions based on the best information available from science while keeping ideology and politics out of the process. They sure haven’t done that in the climate field, and I don’t know how we’re going to do that with other high-stakes policy issues.
But we’re going to have to. There’s too much on the table. I don’t think I need to remind you of Ike’s 1961 farewell address, but the old General sure saw this coming with 20-20 vision.
Let’s remind some of the posters on this site what you are talking about:
Today, the solitary inventor, tinkering in his shop, has been overshadowed by task forces of scientists in laboratories and testing fields. In the same fashion, the free university, historically the fountainhead of free ideas and scientific discovery, has experienced a revolution in the conduct of research. Partly because of the huge costs involved, a government contract becomes virtually a substitute for intellectual curiosity. For every old blackboard there are now hundreds of new electronic computers.
The prospect of domination of the nation’s scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present
and is gravely to be regarded. Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific/technological elite.
Dwight D. Eisenhower, 1961
Sorry Dan to burst your bubble. Horses and donkeys emit methane gas which every gorbot knows is bad; and bicycles-don’t they require steel and making steel requires… oops, fire and fire=bad.Since we have to close all nuclear power plants immediately because of Japan, and all coal and gas fired plants must be shut down NOW to save Ma, and all hydroelectric dams must be dynamited to save the fish, this leaves what for the greenies to plug their Piouses, Leaves, Volts and epi-pads into? Windmills? No wait birds fly into them. Solar? No wait, the only mine in the US which produces the minerals needed to make them was closed and the only other source is….wait for it…China. So this leaves us where? Lets form a committee to study the issue, gathering all the best minds from around the world, make a Dept. in Government, heck maybe a cabinet position, award a peace prize or two….
Those are but minor flaws. After properly protracted study as you suggest, the solutions will be found. Maybe we can outsource all uses of fire to North Korea and Libya. Gas bags can be fitted to the horses and donkeys and the collected contaminants can be sent to those places to fuel the needed fires.
On the other hand, the United States could just become a province of China, under President Obama’s benign governorship. That would be the easiest way for him; there would be no distractions from an obdurate bunch of Republicans and we would all be happy; we might even get HuCare. Hu knows. We are almost there now and maybe our debts could be negotiated. All possibilities are clearly possible and all must be considered, intensively, before final proposals are submitted.
Do I detect a little tongue in cheek, sarcastic humor from an ivy league academic here? Of course he graduated from Yale in 1963 so that would make him about, well, pretty old but definitely a breath of fresh air.
A little tongue in cheek? Well, yes; and that makes lots of stuff very difficult to swallow unless previously masticated and thoroughly digested by the news media.
@9. Algernon Swinburne:”Horses and donkeys emit methane gas which every gorbot knows is bad; and bicycles-don’t they require steel and making steel requires… oops, fire . . .”
Obviously this requires that our nation should focus on making sustainable wooden bicycles.
Although it has received little notice, President Obama has been working diligently with his top advisers, often until after well three o:clock in the morning, to devise criteria for requests for grants to conduct studies on the feasibility of sustainable large scale cement bicycle manufacture. He is quite familiar with cement bicycles; indeed, their compassionate use under his guidance to thwart kinetic
terroristcriminal activity in the United States is thought likely to result in another well deserved Nobel Peace Prize later this year.There are no barriers through which he will not push, no novel approaches he will not explore, no investments he will not demand, to make his beloved country one of which he can eventually be truly proud.
Unless, of course, Dan you’re a taxpayer — in which case you just might wonder what convoluted philosophy of lemon socialism inspired President Obama to include in his 2012 budget $36 billion in government loan guarantees for constructing new nuclear power plants. http://www.youtube.com/user/ScurvyNewsNetwork?feature=mhum#p/a/u/0/VGhE4XKa2Rs
Which is none at all. The loan guarantees are just that- insurance, not loans or grants. Insurance, which, by the way, the utilities pay handsomely for. They will bring money into the Treasury, not draw from it.
Every human being who has died has been exposed to oxygen.
It is obvious that oxygen kills.
We must outlaw oxygen now!
You dream of the lethality of fire, but oxygen gets ‘em all. Every one. In fact, it wasn’t the jews who killed Jesus, it was oxygen.
Please, all you greenies, stop your use of oxygen today! It’s killing you!