Comments on: Obama Clinches Democratic Nomination http://pjmedia.com/blog/final-round-for-democrats-montana-south-dakota-vote/ Wed, 15 Feb 2012 23:46:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Errol Smythe http://pjmedia.com/blog/final-round-for-democrats-montana-south-dakota-vote/#comment-54589 Errol Smythe Fri, 06 Jun 2008 10:20:20 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/final-round-for-democrats-montana-south-dakota-vote/#comment-54589 A joint ticket with Barak Obama and Hilary Clinton may not be a bad idea after all. But it is up to the Obama camp and Barak Obama to make the final decision. It is good to have an open mind and examine all options and choose what is best for the Democratic Party and what is good for the country. It may be a tough call to make. But then again it is just a everyday routine decision that one may expect of anyone aspiring for the high office of the President of the United States of America, because to be the President of the United States of America you have to be a great person loved and accepted by all Americans. The great President John F Kennedy said “..ask not what your country can do for you, but what can you do for your country...” Another great President Abraham Lincoln said “...united we stand,divided we fall...” and Ronald Reagan, a third great President said “...America is a shining beacon of democracy......” Like many that originally considered that it wouldn't work, because of the fierce exchange of words between the two camps, a joint ticket sounded out of the question. But then my opinion don't matter. It don't matter because it is not my call, it is the call of the Obama Camp and Barak Obama. On reflection it will be good to heal the party. It will demonstrate that in primary elections , individuals may have different opinions but still have the grace to unite around a common purpose for the good of the people. In Election 2008 the Democratic Party people have spoken in the primaries by voting in their millions that they have a high opinion of both Hillary Clinton and Barak Obama . Is a joint ticket a U-turn to rhetoric that would prefer the Obama Camp administration totally independent of the Clinton Camp and the Clinton Camp totally independent of the Obama Camp?Yes! An emphatic yes! Why? Because both Camps have excellent election and administration teams and best of all they belong to the same party. It will be good synergy for the party for the Obama Camp and the Clinton Camp to progress to the next level. The media has been kind to both candidates . That is the maturity of American politics. Freedom of the press and freedom of speech,transparency and accountability. Together Barak Obama and Hillary Clinton with John Edwards will make a formidable team. It is common knowledge that convention states that the winning candidate gets to choose his running mate. Public opinion and street wise talk on the streets suggests that it will be gracious for Barak to choose Hillary as a running mate. In the past at the height of the primaries some negative press reports suggested that a joint ticket was not a good idea. I am guilty of thinking that it was not a good idea. But I would like to go on record for whatever it is worth and say that I salute Hillary Clinton for her tenacity, her courage,her patriotism, her great zeal and love for America, her love and commitment to Israel and her dedication to the high call of duty. Hillary as VP will bring a wealth of experience and advice for the Obama Administration. To date Hillary's has not publicly conceded. No one knows what is actually being said by both party camp loyals about the future direction of the party behind closed doors and what is being whispered by party camp die hards around coffee tables in restaurants , hastily convened crisis meetings etc. Just kidding! Word on the street is that the party has to have a united front. To do this it may be recommended by persons close to Barak Obama that since Hillary's name has been put forward for the VP slot it is respectfully suggested that he appoint her as his VP running mate and have John Edwards as Secretary of State. The final decision will be up to Barak Obama who has the interests of uniting and healing the wounds of division of the Democratic party. That is an urgent priority and the “...urgent need of now..” and the “...fierce urgency of the hour...”. It is hoped that this contentious hurdle of appointments of Hillary and John Edwards can unite and galvanize the party to be a political force to reckon worth. No one doubts the patriotism , maturity and graciousness of Barak , Hillary and John who have the Democratic Party interest at heart and will do whatever it takes to unite the party around a common purpose with a view of November 2008 . Errol Smythe. A joint ticket with Barak Obama and Hilary Clinton may not be a bad idea after all. But it is up to the Obama camp and Barak Obama to make the final decision. It is good to have an open mind and examine all options and choose what is best for the Democratic Party and what is good for the country. It may be a tough call to make. But then again it is just a everyday routine decision that one may expect of anyone aspiring for the high office of the President of the United States of America, because to be the President of the United States of America you have to be a great person loved and accepted by all Americans.
The great President John F Kennedy said “..ask not what your country can do for you, but what can you do for your country…”
Another great President Abraham Lincoln said “…united we stand,divided we fall…” and Ronald Reagan, a third great President said “…America is a shining beacon of democracy……”
Like many that originally considered that it wouldn’t work, because of the fierce exchange of words between the two camps, a joint ticket sounded out of the question. But then my opinion don’t matter. It don’t matter because it is not my call, it is the call of the Obama Camp and Barak Obama.
On reflection it will be good to heal the party. It will demonstrate that in primary elections , individuals may have different opinions but still have the grace to unite around a common purpose for the good of the people. In Election 2008 the Democratic Party people have spoken in the primaries by voting in their millions that they have a high opinion of both Hillary Clinton and Barak Obama .
Is a joint ticket a U-turn to rhetoric that would prefer the Obama Camp administration totally independent of the Clinton Camp and the Clinton Camp totally independent of the Obama Camp?Yes! An emphatic yes! Why? Because both Camps have excellent election and administration teams and best of all they belong to the same party. It will be good synergy for the party for the Obama Camp and the Clinton Camp to progress to the next level.
The media has been kind to both candidates . That is the maturity of American politics. Freedom of the press and freedom of speech,transparency and accountability.
Together Barak Obama and Hillary Clinton with John Edwards will make a formidable team. It is common knowledge that convention states that the winning candidate gets to choose his running mate. Public opinion and street wise talk on the streets suggests that it will be gracious for Barak to choose Hillary as a running mate.
In the past at the height of the primaries some negative press reports suggested that a joint ticket was not a good idea. I am guilty of thinking that it was not a good idea. But I would like to go on record for whatever it is worth and say that I salute Hillary Clinton for her tenacity, her courage,her patriotism, her great zeal and love for America, her love and commitment to Israel and her dedication to the high call of duty. Hillary as VP will bring a wealth of experience and advice for the Obama Administration.
To date Hillary’s has not publicly conceded. No one knows what is actually being said by both party camp loyals about the future direction of the party behind closed doors and what is being whispered by party camp die hards around coffee tables in restaurants , hastily convened crisis meetings etc. Just kidding!
Word on the street is that the party has to have a united front. To do this it may be recommended by persons close to Barak Obama that since Hillary’s name has been put forward for the VP slot it is respectfully suggested that he appoint her as his VP running mate and have John Edwards as Secretary of State.
The final decision will be up to Barak Obama who has the interests of uniting and healing the wounds of division of the Democratic party. That is an urgent priority and the “…urgent need of now..” and the “…fierce urgency of the hour…”.
It is hoped that this contentious hurdle of appointments of Hillary and John Edwards can unite and galvanize the party to be a political force to reckon worth.
No one doubts the patriotism , maturity and graciousness of Barak , Hillary and John who have the Democratic Party interest at heart and will do whatever it takes to unite the party around a common purpose with a view of November 2008 . Errol Smythe.

]]> By: Errol Smythe http://pjmedia.com/blog/final-round-for-democrats-montana-south-dakota-vote/#comment-53807 Errol Smythe Thu, 05 Jun 2008 08:35:55 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/final-round-for-democrats-montana-south-dakota-vote/#comment-53807 It is common knowledge that there are standard conventions to choose running mates. So it is in election 2008. The alleged friction between the Clinton and Obama camp could have reached vitriolic levels that could have endangered the Democratic Party,but it did not. Guess what,it attracted and invigorated uncommitted voters in the history to stand up and be counted and make history. Where to now with all this talk about the Clinton camp not supporting the Obama camp? It's all talk. It's all politics.To be more accurate it's politricks. The truth is the Clinton camp like the Obama camp are both democrats and like all good families have a little squabble then make up and go on , so what else is new. Most people know that what is most likely to happen is that there will be a shifting of primary voting position by the majority of voters that were in the Clinton camp moving to the next level of commitment, to Presidential voting position , that is from individual level to party level, from a primary election 2008 polling statement to a declaration of party loyalty rallying around the Democratic Party Presidential Nominee for November 2008. The polls made it appear that there was going to be a Clinton Administration in Election 2008.It never happened. It would appear that most of the polls polled a small section of a carefully chosen community to present a carefully cardiographed miniscule representation of so called voting trends in Election 2008 to what would appear to be to scientifically engineer and manipulate poll figures to bolster previous statements of support for one candidate against the other. True or false? You tell me, did the polls get it right 80% of the time or 65% of the time or maybe 43% of the time? Ask the pollsters, no one is really sure what the self ordained priests posing as self appointed political analysts sitting on their tripods in their temples of media spin were spouting when they made wild predictions of this and that and were wrong most of the time. Why?They relied on cooked up figures that were souped up to make one candidate look better than the other candidate in election 2008. When things went contrary to the cited polling figures, then media spin kicked and kitchen sink strategy and mudslinging politics. But that is history now. It will be swept under the carpet or placed in a hired skip to dump all the vitriolic garbage in the dumping site graveyard of failed election campaigns. The Democratic party is on the road to November 2008. One camp lost another camp won. So what? Both camps are democrats and everyone knows the party interests take precedence over individual interest. The Obama camp has earned the right to choose their own VP. Convention rules in American politics have always been that way. Their choice must be respected because it will be the choice of Obama camp and Barak Obama.Errol Smythe. It is common knowledge that there are standard conventions to choose running mates. So it is in election 2008. The alleged friction between the Clinton and Obama camp could have reached vitriolic levels that could have endangered the Democratic Party,but it did not. Guess what,it attracted and invigorated uncommitted voters in the history to stand up and be counted and make history. Where to now with all this talk about the Clinton camp not supporting the Obama camp? It’s all talk. It’s all politics.To be more accurate it’s politricks. The truth is the Clinton camp like the Obama camp are both democrats and like all good families have a little squabble then make up and go on , so what else is new.
Most people know that what is most likely to happen is that there will be a shifting of primary voting position by the majority of voters that were in the Clinton camp moving to the next level of commitment, to Presidential voting position , that is from individual level to party level, from a primary election 2008 polling statement to a declaration of party loyalty rallying around the Democratic Party Presidential Nominee for November 2008.
The polls made it appear that there was going to be a Clinton Administration in Election 2008.It never happened. It would appear that most of the polls polled a small section of a carefully chosen community to present a carefully cardiographed miniscule representation of so called voting trends
in Election 2008 to what would appear to be to scientifically engineer and manipulate poll figures to bolster previous statements of support for one candidate against the other.
True or false? You tell me, did the polls get it right 80% of the time or 65% of the time or maybe 43% of the time? Ask the pollsters, no one is really sure what the self ordained priests posing as self appointed political analysts sitting on their tripods in their temples of media spin were spouting when they made wild predictions of this and that and were wrong most of the time. Why?They relied on cooked up figures that were souped up to make one candidate look better than the other candidate in election 2008.
When things went contrary to the cited polling figures, then media spin kicked and kitchen sink strategy and mudslinging politics. But that is history now. It will be swept under the carpet or placed in a hired skip to dump all the vitriolic garbage in the dumping site graveyard of failed election campaigns.
The Democratic party is on the road to November 2008. One camp lost another camp won. So what? Both camps are democrats and everyone knows the party interests take precedence over individual interest.
The Obama camp has earned the right to choose their own VP. Convention rules in American politics have always been that way. Their choice must be respected because it will be the choice of Obama camp and Barak Obama.Errol Smythe.

]]> By: Bill Bradley http://pjmedia.com/blog/final-round-for-democrats-montana-south-dakota-vote/#comment-53608 Bill Bradley Thu, 05 Jun 2008 00:42:24 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/final-round-for-democrats-montana-south-dakota-vote/#comment-53608 ... There is a conservatism which is relevant to the real world. And there is a conservatism which is relevant to a fantasy world. … There is a conservatism which is relevant to the real world. And there is a conservatism which is relevant to a fantasy world.

]]> By: Bill Bradley http://pjmedia.com/blog/final-round-for-democrats-montana-south-dakota-vote/#comment-53607 Bill Bradley Thu, 05 Jun 2008 00:41:13 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/final-round-for-democrats-montana-south-dakota-vote/#comment-53607 Have you ever actually seen The Manchurian Candidate? Do you know what it's about? Did you know that it was directed by one of Bobby Kennedy's closest friends? I am guessing the answers to each of my questions is ... NO. :) >joyce: Obama is the weaker candidate, yet the delegates are flooding to him. He’s deeply flawed and has very shady and racist associations (including his wife), yet nothing turns the delegates away. How can we explain this inexplicable phenomenon? Can you say, MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE? Jun 3, 2008 - 4:05 pm Have you ever actually seen The Manchurian Candidate?

Do you know what it’s about?

Did you know that it was directed by one of Bobby Kennedy’s closest friends?

I am guessing the answers to each of my questions is … NO. :)

>joyce:

Obama is the weaker candidate, yet the delegates are flooding to him. He’s deeply flawed and has very shady and racist associations (including his wife), yet nothing turns the delegates away. How can we explain this inexplicable phenomenon?

Can you say, MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE?
Jun 3, 2008 – 4:05 pm

]]> By: Bill Bradley http://pjmedia.com/blog/final-round-for-democrats-montana-south-dakota-vote/#comment-53605 Bill Bradley Thu, 05 Jun 2008 00:39:28 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/final-round-for-democrats-montana-south-dakota-vote/#comment-53605 She's not staying in the campaign, as I already told you. >Hillary’s Tough Decision: “Staying in the campaign will not be very expensive now that the priimaries are over. And Obama may be one or two damaging YouTubes away from becoming borderline unviable.” (Power Line) Report: Clinton Seeking Private Meeting with Obama (Mark Halperin) Hillary’s not conceding anything: “She just made a reference to ‘count every vote,’ which would suggest she’s not at peace with the DNC decision on Michigan and Florida.” (Jim Geraghty) She’s not staying in the campaign, as I already told you.

>Hillary’s Tough Decision: “Staying in the campaign will not be very expensive now that the priimaries are over. And Obama may be one or two damaging YouTubes away from becoming borderline unviable.” (Power Line)

Report: Clinton Seeking Private Meeting with Obama (Mark Halperin)

Hillary’s not conceding anything: “She just made a reference to ‘count every vote,’ which would suggest she’s not at peace with the DNC decision on Michigan and Florida.” (Jim Geraghty)

]]> By: little much http://pjmedia.com/blog/final-round-for-democrats-montana-south-dakota-vote/#comment-53289 little much Wed, 04 Jun 2008 16:03:36 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/final-round-for-democrats-montana-south-dakota-vote/#comment-53289 Obama would make a fine actor, when all else fails. Obama would make a fine actor, when all else fails.

]]> By: Terry Gain http://pjmedia.com/blog/final-round-for-democrats-montana-south-dakota-vote/#comment-52773 Terry Gain Wed, 04 Jun 2008 03:55:16 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/final-round-for-democrats-montana-south-dakota-vote/#comment-52773 Ed Wallis: You know, “rotwang,” I guess your remarks could be expected for someone with the German name of (translated into English) “RED CHEEKS.” Maybe the following can inform and others to the contrary…. ---- Thanks Ed. And here I thought rotwang meant diseased penis. Ed Wallis:

You know, “rotwang,” I guess your remarks could be expected for someone with the German name of (translated into English) “RED CHEEKS.”

Maybe the following can inform and others to the contrary….

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Thanks Ed. And here I thought rotwang meant diseased penis.

]]> By: joyce http://pjmedia.com/blog/final-round-for-democrats-montana-south-dakota-vote/#comment-52621 joyce Tue, 03 Jun 2008 23:05:31 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/final-round-for-democrats-montana-south-dakota-vote/#comment-52621 Obama is the weaker candidate, yet the delegates are flooding to him. He's deeply flawed and has very shady and racist associations (including his wife), yet nothing turns the delegates away. How can we explain this inexplicable phenomenon? Can you say, MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE? Obama is the weaker candidate, yet the delegates are flooding to him. He’s deeply flawed and has very shady and racist associations (including his wife), yet nothing turns the delegates away. How can we explain this inexplicable phenomenon?

Can you say, MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE?

]]> By: Papa Ray http://pjmedia.com/blog/final-round-for-democrats-montana-south-dakota-vote/#comment-52618 Papa Ray Tue, 03 Jun 2008 23:01:18 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/final-round-for-democrats-montana-south-dakota-vote/#comment-52618 "but I have not seen any attempts on his part to “re-invent himself” during the campaign" You must not be keeping up with what he says and his keepers say. He has changed is mind, his position, his take on things more times than I could list here. Do a little research on the web and you will see that he also stands for nothing, will say almost anything, and change his position to get elected. Not only does he not believe in anything but socialism, him and his wife are racists, disguised as people who despise the same, but encourage and spread division and hate among Blacks. Do your research. Papa Ray “but I have not seen any attempts on his part to “re-invent himself” during the campaign”

You must not be keeping up with what he says and his keepers say. He has changed is mind, his position, his take on things more times than I could list here.

Do a little research on the web and you will see that he also stands for nothing, will say almost anything, and change his position to get elected.

Not only does he not believe in anything but socialism, him and his wife are racists, disguised as people who despise the same, but encourage and spread division and hate among Blacks.

Do your research.

Papa Ray

]]> By: Mary in LA http://pjmedia.com/blog/final-round-for-democrats-montana-south-dakota-vote/#comment-52604 Mary in LA Tue, 03 Jun 2008 22:36:51 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/final-round-for-democrats-montana-south-dakota-vote/#comment-52604 If Hill is offered the Veep slot and takes it, I fear that ticket will win. However, in that case, I predict that inside two years we will see a sort of <i>coup</i> in all but name. Look for President Obama to delegate all kinds of things to his Veep, not just state funerals. (Health care, for example?) If Hill is offered the Veep slot and takes it, I fear that ticket will win. However, in that case, I predict that inside two years we will see a sort of coup in all but name. Look for President Obama to delegate all kinds of things to his Veep, not just state funerals. (Health care, for example?)

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