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Filmmaker Who Outed ACORN in Prostitution Sting Arrested

Caught with three others trying to bug Senator Landrieu's (D-LA) office.
(Additional early reaction rounded up by Ed Driscoll.)

by
Dan Riehl

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January 26, 2010 - 2:54 pm
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Based upon other news reports:

A news release from the US Attorney’s office in eastern LA said the four men walked into Landrieu’s office in the Hale Boggs Federal Building in New Orleans on Monday. Flanagan and Basel were dressed as phone repairmen. O’Keefe was already in the office with a cell phone camera recording his alleged accomplices.

“Because the details of yesterday’s incident are part of an ongoing investigation by federal authorities, our office cannot comment at this time,” said Aaron Saunders, Landrieu’s communications director.

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Calls to the FBI and U.S. Atty’s office in New Orleans were not immediately returned. If convicted, all 4 could face a maximum of 10 years in prison and a $250K fine.

Also, based upon early blog reporting, Flanagan appears to be linked to the Pelican Institute. O’Keefe was reported to have addressed the group this past weekend. Flanagan’s attorney believes his client is employed by the Pelican Institute.

O’Keefe on Thursday gave a speech to the Pelican Institute for Public Policy, a libertarian group in New Orleans.

Last fall, O’Keefe was hailed as a conservative hero for dressing as a pimp and taping ACORN employees offering advice on how he and a partner could get away with running an international under-age prostitution scheme.

The New Orleans event was promoted with this glowing statement about O’Keefe by the Pelican Institute: “James has been a pioneer in the use of new media to drive these kinds of important stories. He will discuss the role of new media and show examples of effective investigative reporting.”

The blog report also pointed to a Stan Dai based in Washington who may fit the profile one would expect for one of O’Keefe’s accomplices. However, it is unconfirmed as to whether or not it is the same Dai who has been arrested as a result of the alleged wiretapping scheme.

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Dan Riehl is a former marketing professional in the technology industry turned blogger/new media consultant. He's based in Virginia, just off the D.C. Beltway.

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154 Comments, 154 Threads

  1. 1. Matthew

    Oh dear. Having to answer questions under oath – he won’t like that at all.

  2. 2. M. Report

    Now, now: It was just a boyish prank,
    like those New Black Panthers up North;
    Release them on their own recognisance,
    give them some community service, and
    tell them not to do it again. Or not;
    The way the State handles these kids
    should be verrry interesting, but
    disgusting.

  3. 3. janetoo

    Yikes.

  4. 4. SJ

    This was stupid ( and wrong, illegal, etc)

  5. 5. michiganruth

    sounds like someone’s been reading G. Gordon Liddy’s autobiography…

    “Jim the Plumber”?

  6. 6. skeeziks

    Uh-huh . .. hehehehehe . .. bwaaaaaaaaaaaa . . . *spews coffee all over keyboard* . . . literally rolling on the floor, running around the neighborhood laughing . . literally . . . really . . . surpised much? No! . . . . bwaaaaaaaaaaa.

  7. 7. P T Bull

    Sounds like he crossed the line here. He will feel the full vengeance of a liberal attorney general due to his exposing the rampant criminality of acorn. I can’t take any credit for being prescient by anticipating that liberals will claim that this somehow voids or invalidates the acorn expose…

  8. 8. David Thomson

    The initial reports are disturbing—and seemingly damming. The odds are that James O’Keefe and his buddies have broken the law. If true, though, what in hell were they thinking? Why would anyone want to bug the phones of U.S. Senator Mary Landrieu? What am I not getting? These alleged actions seem absurd. O’Keefe is a man in his mid twenties. He must know that this is a felony. The law does not perceive tapping someone’s phone lines to be something of a schoolboy prank. I don’t pretend to be a legal expert, but my guess is that a prison sentence is inevitable if one is convicted on this particular charge. Am I overly pessimistic?

  9. This was a very dumb thing to do on their part…

  10. I am curious how many liberal congress-persons feel slightly worried. How many of their “negotiations” with union leaders and Obama are recorded and may be presented to the public?

  11. 11. Tom Holsinger

    “So long, and thanks for all the fish!”

  12. 12. looking closely

    So dumb. . .

    Even under the most charitable possible interpretation that this was some kind of prank, and that the boys in question weren’t really trying to tamper with phone lines, what the heck were these guys thinking?

  13. 13. Fearless Leader

    Bugging her phones?

    Where is all the bugging equipment?

    Taking camera video footage of her offices?

    Maybe?

    I dare not judge until I see/hear the truth.

    Do you trust the Democrats to tell the media to tell us the Truth?

  14. 14. ChuckL

    Liberal or conservative, Democrat or Republican: Break the law, go to jail. No favoritism for anyone!

  15. 15. mariner

    A lot of people are taking this at face value. Why?

    O’Keefe hugely embarrassed ACORN, and that hugely embarrassed Democrats and the Obama Administration. Does anyone here doubt that Democrats or Obama’s DOJ would lie about this guy?

    I don’t believe for a minute that O’Keefe was actually screwing with Landrieu’s (or anyone else’s phone).

  16. 16. skeeziks@hotmail.com

    13. Fearless Leader:

    Make that Witless Leader . . . re: obstinate to the point of self damage.

  17. 17. bryan

    Why is anyone mentioning liberals in their posts? Wake the F up. this is a problem with us conservatives. take the higher road. Don’t you see the immaturity in immediately saying, “yeah but liberals” “wait until liberals…”. So stupid. Just accept the fact that as it looks right now, this kid who was a hero to a lot of us 4 months ago has done something illegal and against everything WE are supposed to believe in. Law and Order right? Right to privacy? Quit whining and accept the fact that one of us really, truly messed up and should be punished to the full extent of the law.
    Grow up.

  18. 18. bryan

    I am conservative to the bone and reading these posts make me sick. Are you people conservative or just your run-of-the-mill Oliver Stone/Michael Moore conspiracy theorists? Why make excuses. Sad.

  19. 19. skeeziks@hotmail.com

    goy, misanthropicus, delia, meryl, moongoose, of guello, bilgeman, rachel peepers, fred beloit, baal . . . your public awaits you. Please, indulge yourselves. I belive the word is “principle.” Discuss.

  20. 20. Gary

    It’ll be interesting to see if this story shows up on the nightly “broadcast” news shows, and if so how they portray his other “prank”, which was NOT dumb. People might wonder ….. How come we never heard about that at the time, Katie?

  21. 21. robotech master

    To 13. Fearless Leader

    I’m confused by this as well… seems more they are claiming he was illegally recording stuff with his cell phone cam… maybe to ask some questions “off the record”.

  22. 22. Farragut Jones

    “Great, kid. Don’t get cocky.” — Han Solo

    O’Keefe should have listened.

  23. 23. furious

    “Videotaping this crime spree is the best idea we ever had.
    –Jimbo Jones, The Simpsons

  24. 24. TomC

    Wow. This is pretty bad. Getting ACORN was good, but this is approaching a Watergate scandal where the shoe is on the other foot. It’s a 2nd rate wiretapping!!!

  25. 25. David Thomson

    “I don’t believe for a minute that O’Keefe was actually screwing with Landrieu’s (or anyone else’s phone).”

    The affidavit signed by FBI agent Steven Rayes appears damming. I am sorry but I can’t find a silver lining. This does not look good. The odds of James O’Keefe being innocent of the charges are probably less than ten percent.

  26. 26. ken in sc

    This is a pattern I am sorry to say. One of the things the Watergate burglars were looking for was proof that the Democratic Party was receiving support from the Soviet Union. They did not find that proof, however, it was later revealed that several Soviet Front groups had contributed funds to the Democrats. There is evidence that the various Clinton campaigns received indirect support from the Chinese government. It is currently illegal for foreigners and foreign governments to support U.S. candidates.

    However, the idea that you should beak the law in order to expose the bad behavior of others is not good. It’s too risky and gives too much ammunition to the opposition.

  27. 27. furious

    7…the full vengeance of a liberal attorney general…

    James D. “Buddy” Caldwell is indeed a Democrat, but tampering with telephones may be a Federal crime.

    Hello, U.S. Attorney for the Easter District of Louisiana!

  28. 28. paul_unalaska

    While I appreciate Mr. O’Keefe’s reporting of the Acorn debacle, this is plain illegal.

    A stupid action by O’Keefe and company. The AG’s office.. unbelievable.

  29. 29. paul_unalaska

    Scratch that.. a Senator’s office. Excuse my gaffe..

  30. 30. goy

    I’ll be impressed when this actually turns out to be what so many are hoping was a damning act.

    That includes Riehl, apparently: “…Big Government’s editors claim to have had no knowledge…”? “Caught with three others trying to bug…”? Shouldn’t that be allegedly trying? And O’Keefe has “accomplices”?? All so very… what’s the term… oh yeah – Left Wing Media.

  31. 31. Andrew X

    Any port in a storm, eh skeez?

    That’s OK, enjoy the port. I’m sure it’ll feel good, for a bit.

    That storm ain’t goin’ anywhere, though.

  32. 32. skeeziks@hotmail.com

    15. mariner:

    I’l bet you a year’s pay that you’re wrong. He did it. The fact that you are so incredulous shows just how far down the right wing rabbit hole you’ve fallen.

  33. 33. SteveOfTheNorth

    This is a wait and see thing.Sometimes things are not as they appear to be.
    After all what if this is about Louisiana justice and not Sen.Landrieu ?
    If the DA was smart,he would hit them with a trespassing charge and send
    them on their way. No need to make this a show trial,because who knows what
    a bunch of “kids” with video cellphones might see?

  34. 34. Anonymous

    I’m guessing that O’Keefe believed Landrieu was involved in something illegal and was trying to get the goods. The next question is: was he actually on to something or was he set-up. If he was actually on to something, watch for there to be a lot of back-door maneuvering to get a gag order on him and his attorneys, preventing him from presenting his defense in court (and to the media), or simply to prevent him from having his day in court

  35. 35. Thomass

    12. looking closely:

    “Even under the most charitable possible interpretation that this was some kind of prank, and that the boys in question weren’t really trying to tamper with phone lines, what the heck were these guys thinking?”

    Their only hope is what you’re saying. That they had no actual phone listening / recording / transmitting device on them (cameras that can not record phones, from the wires, don’t count) and that it is a setup to see how much the lefty media will ‘invent’ before that is revealed (ie, how can you trust x, y, and z when they made up all this BS about us being guilty of wiretapping… when we had nothing on us).

    Otherwise, they’re screwed… and yeah, what were they thinking… wiretapping is a serious crime / a no playing around kind of thing. But they should know that since O’Keefe has already been threatened for related charges over recording people without permission.

    But anyway, unless one of them is an engineering student, it’s not easy to build a transmitting bug that can get a few blocks of range… so I do have a bit of hope this is another gottcha prank.

  36. 36. Tom Holsinger

    Hot Air reports that one of the arrestees is the son of the local U.S. Attorney, which if true means the Department of Justice will probably handle the prosecution. (cue evil laughter)

    We can all probably wish the suspects the best of luck in their new careers at Club Fed.

  37. 37. ForNow

    My understanding has been that James O’Keefe, though a hero to conservatives, is not actually a conservative (Hannah Giles, on the other hand, is a conservative). I’m not sure what difference it makes.

  38. 38. RE

    Did the kid get cocky and overstep? Or is this political payback?

    It will be interesting to see how it shakes out.

  39. 39. Richard W

    Everyone hold on a second… jumping the gun here. Lets all take a breath and let the facts shake out for a day or two. My bet… there are some facts missing from this initial report.

  40. 40. James Mayeau

    Aren’t Senator’s phones sort of bugged already?
    I mean it’s a public phone, as in the people’s phone, on the people’s desk, next to the people’s chair, down the hall from the people’s coffee maker, ect.

  41. 41. Rob

    bryan, since when are folks guilty until proven innocent? If he broke the law, he deserves what he gets but your reaction is just as juvenile as those you condemn

  42. 42. skeeziks

    31. Andrew X:

    Don’t be bitter, AX. These boys are your heroes, remember. Tea Party Citizen Journalists. In other words, typical right wing low-grade criminals masquerading as patriots. Felony buffoons illustrating their own conservative ethics and those of their patrons- Breitbart, Hannity, Limbaugh. O’Reilly . . . and you people.

    Not to worry, though. I’m sure they’re being taken out of context. They didn’t really run away when they were asked for theri credentials. They were actually running to a Sons of Liberty Freedom Assembly of Patriotic National Fathers of the Founding Society.

    Freaks.

  43. 43. avoidswork

    Awesome. Teh Stoopid at work. You go fauxpimp! Better yet, bring a cohort whose Daddy is the US Attorney. And get caught!

    Can’t wait to see FNC spin tonight!

  44. 44. Loren Svor

    Excuse me if I think what I have seen so far is very underwhelming. Is it against the law to impersonate a telephone company employee? Don’t think so. To record the activities of persons who likely would not object? Nope. Only to interfere with a federal telephone system. But the affidavit alleges no actual interference with anything. They had already “manipulated” the handset, per the affidavit. Any bugs planted? Guess not, or they would have said so. But they MUST have been doing something illegal!! I don’t see how this cut it in any way. Soft little affidavit, but it got them thrown in jail, so I guess–SUCCESS!

  45. 45. sallie

    bad move..perhaps we can see the charges dropped as the intimidationn by black panthers of voters in last pres election was…

    Film making obviously went to his head and he overstepped his limits.

  46. 46. skeeziks

    37. sallie:

    Or Scooter Libby . . . Focus, Sallie. Focus. Focus.

  47. 47. skeeziks

    34. Anonymous:
    I’m guessing that O’Keefe believed Landrieu was involved in something illegal

    Guessing at best . . . wishing is far more likely

    anyone else? This is fun.

  48. 48. adam

    The simplest line to take here is aso the right one: the prosecutor will make his case, O’Keefe will present a defense, we watch and insist that the process be open and fair (no need to assume it won’t be) and then he should get what he deserves. If he committed this crime, and he realizes that he has done wrong and determines not to do it again, he does his time and can come back and hopefully expose a lot more leftist scams and crimiinal enterprises before he is through. We have no reason to believe in sosme kind of permanent “taint.”

  49. 49. M. Report

    The (reported) actions of O’Keefe & Co. make no sense.

    The comments here are not much more understandable.

    No harm, no foul; Punishment should be proportional
    to the present, projected or potential damage done.

    Of course, in the USSR, owning an unregistered
    mimeograph machine was a crime against the State,
    and in ancient Rome, being found in possession of
    Royal Purple dye carried the death penalty;
    Today, in _this_ country, operating a printing press
    (or a website) is not a crime, and mere possession
    of large amounts of cash is not a punishable act.
    No, wait…

  50. 50. skeeziks

    31. Andrew X:
    Any port in a storm, eh skeez?

    Keep an eye out for Vitter vis a vis the U.S. Attorney in this one. (A little free advance notice. No charge.)

    Meanwhile, James O’Keefe . . . Chris Wallace’s Power Player of the Week, subject of a U.S. Resolution touting the debt of gratitude the country owes him for his his patriotism and search for the truth (co-sponsored by 32 Republicans). Or as we liberals view him – icon turned clown turned convict. Ah, the sweet smell of repetition.

  51. 51. Merle

    This was such a stupid thing to do. Republicans always pay. There are different standard for Dems. That is because Republicans still have standards. Dems….nah.

  52. 52. Richard Aubrey

    Apparently, they had no bugging equipment with them and, according to some posters at Ace, you don’t bug from the office, but from the junction room in the basement or wherever it is going to be.
    So if they couldn’t do it, they can’t be shown to be intending to do it unless the prosecution can show they’re so dumb they thought they could. Would that work?
    If the office is open to the public, they don’t need pretenses, or real reasons, to be legally there. That will have to be settled.
    It seems they weren’t trying to do what they’re being accused of trying to do.
    Which leaves the question….

  53. 53. hmmmmmmmmmm

    one has to wonder if they were successful anywhere. certainly a senator might. something for a senator to lay awake at night and ask him/herself: were my phones worked on in the last 3 months?

  54. 54. Qdoctor

    The affidavit states the two fellows dressed as telephone repair men attempted to gain access to a *telecoms closet* in *federal building*. I mean, really, WTF? Thank goodness “witness 2″ has his/her wits about him/her. What if it was anyone else? Trying to bug the DEA/FBI/DHS phones? Geesh.

  55. 55. What Every Liberal In America Is Thinking

    AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    The true face of your heroes is revealed, and you hypocritical little piggies are desperately trying to disassociate themselves.

    Sorry. It won’t work. O’Keefe is going down, and everyone whom he’s ever associated with is going down with him. Andrew Breitbart? Royally screwed. Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy… or a more deserving one.

    Neener neener, fools.

  56. 56. Every Liberal In America

    Neener neener.

  57. 57. Sara

    Everyone hold your horses, convictions w/o a trial and court dismissles w/o the court are stooopid. We have no idea why he was doing this.

    It is not “watergate” for crying out loud unless they find the kid was hired by the Republican President’s staff to spy on Democrats. He’s a libertarian citizen journalist.

  58. 58. baal

    50. skeeziks:Well, honestly, these guys did irreparable damage to Obama by outing Acorn for the scum posse that they are.
    I just wish they could have gotten the footage of Obama and his Sugar Daddy Tony Rezko.
    But, right now your messiah just ain’t what he used to be, is he? So right now when I say he’s an idiot, you can’t dispute that. Because…skeeziks buddy, a random selection of wal mart shoppers could do better than your messiah has done in his first year, and that’s nothing that any amount of trash talking is going to change.
    Your messiah is an incompetent…or he’s a corrupt piece of garbage. Pick one and go with it.

  59. 59. Samizdat

    Let us see what the facts reveal. If O’Keefe actually did this, he broke the law in most states. I am shocked at how ill advised this behavior is for someone who supposedly had a journalist’s education. I would be dumb founded if Breitbart sanctioned this, it is obviously criminal if the prosecution can carry it’s burden of proof. Civil liability could be economically disasterous for Breitbart. I can’t imagine an editor sanctioning this behavior if it is true that wire tapping took place.

  60. 60. Jeff Jefferson

    I wonder how the mainstream media will do their “I told you so” report on these guys without mentioning the previous Acorn scandal.

  61. 61. LeonidasOfSparta

    @RichardAubrey– thank you for your clear words. I am sorry that so many readers of this are so ready to blame/accuse. James O’Keefe is no dummy and is fairly savvy about the law. He’s a filmmaker. I think he has a reason for this. What he did to expose ACORN was great. IMHO, the fact that he said “VERITAS” loudly as he was being taken into custody is something to think about.
    Spectemur Agendo, James O’Keefe.

  62. Their biggest mistake was that everyone wore the same costume.

    Only one guy should have worn the hard hat.

    The other guys should have dressed up as a cop, a cowboy and an Indian chief, respectively.

    Sheesh. Kids today.

  63. 63. Orion

    Sounds like he went overboard, big time. Not sure if he was really trying to bug her phones or just used “working on the phone system” as an excuse to get inside and record video of her offices. Whatever, he’s an idiot and probably will spend some Quality Time in a cell with his New Best Friend, Carlos the Prison Body Builder. They’ll make a lovely couple.

    Doesn’t invalidate his expose’ of ACORN in any way, either. He just crossed the line this time and should reap the consequences.

  64. 64. skeeziks

    52. Richard Aubrey:

    You can’t possibly be that clueless . . . READ the facts. They’re charged under Section 1036 . . . entering a federal facility under false pretenses in an attempt to commit a felony. You might want to find out why that happened. I know why. You should make the effort to know, too.

  65. 65. misanthropicus

    … Paging Don Hewitt… Don Hewitt of 60 minutes to the reception desk… the “How to Plant a Secret Camera in Someone’s Home or Business” show will begin shortly… Don Hewitt to the reception desk… if anyone has seen Don Hewitt please report…”

    Now, a knuckle head is a knucklehead, liberal of conservative and this O’Keffee (?) guy, regardless his ACORN merits (which stand) seems to fit the description -

    Yet also, last night I happened to come across a Don Hewitt laudatory program on ??? where, funny enough, they were reminiscing about how smart Hewitt was beating the law when installing secret cameras in homes and offices of unsuspecting people -

    We’ll see whether O’keefe indeed broke the law – probably so -
    But we also we have to keep in mind that when a liberal breaks the law, everything is fine – we’re talking about Spartacus, after all -
    But when it comes to someone, connectable even in the most improbable manner with a conservative cause (remember Braun of the Holocaust Museum shooting?) – that’s an established fact of gravitation’s verity -

    So, a knuclehead is a knucklehead – but since we live in Obama’s age of unnecessary presidential legitimacy, Talleyrand’s word describes perfectly the situation: “It’s not a crime, it’s much, much worse – it’s a stupid thing!” -

  66. 66. jvon

    No idea what to make of this — although I note a lot of people seem ready to throw this guy in jail just for being accused of something.

    That isn’t how it works in this country.

  67. 67. misanthropicus

    RE #42/skeeziks:

    [...] These boys are your heroes, remember. Tea Party Citizen Journalists. In other words, typical right wing low-grade criminals masquerading as patriots. Felony buffoons illustrating their own conservative ethics and those of their patrons- Breitbart, Hannity, Limbaugh. O’Reilly . . . and you people. [...]

    Sweety, I think you got really high on this –
    I mean, those guys without recording equipment on them WERE bugging Landrieu’s office? That outrages your moral senses?

    Then what are your… gosh, feelings, I guess, about having a illegitimate president (possibly an agent of a foreign power) in the office?
    Silence, suddenly –

    Hehehe – relax, Shk, relax – it was just a bad hamburger, some Maalox will do it – tomorrow everything will be alright, then the November elections will show the right direction – then the 2012 elections will bump the liberals for ever in the cesspool they belong -

    Regards -

  68. 68. misanthropicus

    RE #46/skeeziks:

    [...] Or Scooter Libby [...]

    Or judge Walker of anti-Prop 8 trial in San Francisco -

  69. 69. Jeff

    Oystergate? NOLAgate? BourbonStgate? Gritsgate?

    Feel sorry for him. I suppose he was going to set her up on health care. Total bullshit breaking into an office as opposed to what they did to ACORN which was perfectly legal.

  70. 70. misanthropicus

    RE #50/skeeziks:

    [...] Or as we liberals view him – icon turned clown turned convict. Ah, the sweet smell of repetition. [...]

    Jomo, you’re back? Now I got it – hehehe – “le style c’est l’homme” – no, nothing homophobic here, nevermind hehehe – Jomo, you’re back – oh god, no underrock can keep you too much there –

    You made my day – ah, the sweet smell of repetition – hehehe – Jomo is back, possibly with a better Roget’s and few new apps, but essentially the very itself(?) himself (?) Ellie Light – hehehe -

  71. 71. goy

    Just glanced at Memeorandum. Quite funny. This story is currently beating out the Socio-crats’ declaration that socialized medicine is dead. Again.

    The priority disconnect is just plain astounding.

    All this hyperventilation shows what a huge deal the ACORN revelations really were. If this stunt had been pulled by an ‘undocumented’ Yemeni immigrant with ties to al Qaeda, we wouldn’t have seen nearly so much attention paid to it.

    And the delicious irony is that the ACORN fools were duped – repeatedly – by a guy who’s (ostensibly) dumb enough to get snagged by the FBI for, so far, entering a government building under false pretenses.

  72. 72. DaveT

    Idiots like Sheeziks will try to use this as cover for the absolute corruption of leftist organizations like Acorn. What it does not do is undo the exposure of Acorn as a criminal operation and the fact that the Democrats and the current Administration are knee deep with them.

    That said, if this guy broke the law he should pay the price. We are a nation of laws. Now if we could just get the left to understand that…..

  73. 73. David Thomson

    “James O’Keefe is no dummy and is fairly savvy about the law. He’s a filmmaker. I think he has a reason for this.”

    I may lack the imagination—but I still can’t find any justification for James O’Keefe’s behavior. Why is he playing the role of a second rate James Bond? Mary Landrieu is not exactly my favorite politician. Nonetheless, why did O’Keefe and his buddies perceive her worthy of this sort of attention? What might I be missing? I want to be wrong. One can only hope that O’Keefe can provide an excellent explanation.

  74. 74. Dave C

    With this stupid stunt, he’s tainted everything he already reported, and will almost absolutely spend years in a federal pen. Let’s face it, he’s seriously hurt conservatism, making us look like Nixon’s plumbers. He doesn’t have to tap any phones, just accessing their telecom switch is a felony. Even the FBI can’t tap a senstor’s office. Justice is part of the executive branch, and has no authority in legislative offices. I’d like to feel sorry for him, but can’t One of his friends arrested is the sin of a Federal Prosecutor. If any conservative defends his actions, we’re no better than Obama’s minions.

  75. 75. Delia

    Strange timing. I hope this doesn’t take the Limelight off of little o’s first SOTU address that I’m sure he has been working diligently on. Tomorrow is his big night to tell us how great he is and how great he’s doing and how we need to LISTEN to his MESSAGE he’s trying to get us to FOCUS on. Gosh darnit. :(

    If this filmmaker is guilty I hope he gets treated at least as well as those man-made disaster causers (especially that cute lil’ panty-bomber).

  76. 76. skeeziks

    65. misanthropicus:

    Hidden cameras? You think that’s what this is about? Nooooo. It’s about trying to wiretap a senator’s phone. Duh. You realize, of course, when you sputter such manifestly disingenuous crap crap that you cast a pall over all of your comments. You create a credibility problem beyond that which already exists among the hard right.

    Then again, every little bit helps, so by all means, continue.

  77. 77. bryan

    Rob, that is why I said “as it looks right now.” certainly beats the hell out of a knee jerk blame on some liberal conspiracy, no?

  78. 78. SVT

    Two words before you jump to conclusions about O’Keefe – Ted Stevens.

  79. 79. richard

    Yes, take a step back and take a deep breath – the way you did when the O’Keefe’s ACORN videos were published? Did you all take a step back and say we need to reserve judgment on ACORN because we don’t yet have all the facts?

    And I’m no ACORN fan.

    Yes, maybe there will be evidence forthcoming that O’Keefe was “onto something” (although there is zero evidence of that so far). But that is irrelevant. He may have had the scoop of a lifetime. That doesn’t alter the facts: O’Keefe and his merry men may well have committed a felony. Imagine if you read about Nancy Pelosi fans doing something similar at John McCain’s or Sarah Palin’s offices (if she were still in office). Imagine.

  80. 80. Ken Royall

    I am with O’Keefe, even if he is guilty. Sometimes there is a greater good. He has been working to expose corruption that is destroying our Democracy, if he got a little overzealous this time, well too bad.

    NOBODY in government was doing anything about voter fraud, Republicans were lamely trying to ignore it probably because they were playing it safe, not wanting to offend minorities by going after ACORN. We have Franken in the Senate right now because of this nonsense. O’Keefe did what nobody else was able to do, he destroyed ACORN’s credibility. This was nothing short of HUGE.

    We have people in Congress who are engaged in corruption on an unimaginable scale and nobody is doing anything about it. Millions of lives are being destroyed by these criminals like Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, Charlie Rangel and the Obama administration. The housing meltdown alone has destroyed millions of people and I should be pissed about James O’Keefe? No.

    I will reserve judgment on this situation until I know what O’Keefe knows about Landrieu. It is possible to stand with someone and still not endorse what they may have done in every case. We need more people like O’Keefe and sometimes things get dicey when you are trying to do big things. These are unusual times, we have a “privileged” class who thinks they are exempt from the law, something needs to be done about it and it isn’t always going to be tidy.

  81. 81. Kirna

    They were allowed through reception at a US attorney’s office simply by calling themselves “telephone repairmen” and dressing in costume? Such a story doesn’t even sound real (why would think they could get away with it; how could building and office staff let them get that far?).

    If they’ve done wrong, they ought to be punished, of course. Still, a peculiar story…

  82. 82. Kirna

    I must correct myself. I meant Landrieu’s office, of course.

  83. 83. Fearless Leader

    64. skeeziks: or is it wheezie?

    Just address the facts, there is actually no evidence that they did interfere with, or intended to interfere with the phone system. They picked up the reception phone; made a call to it; claimed it didn’t work; called a cell from another cell; then requested access to the phone closet.

    The absence of any reference to telephone recording or line tapping equipment would indicate to me that they had none.

    Regarding conspiracy…. conspiracy to do ..what exactly?
    Attempted to enter the phone closet without proper ID?
    The intent stated in the affidavit is purely the subjective opinion of the agent. While it’s not a stretch to make that assumption, I would think that intent would require some reasonable chance of carrying out the act.

    Now…..
    If they had told the Senator they worked for ACORN or the New Black Panther Party they would probably have been offered jobs right then,
    in her office.

    Remember…
    she said she never ever made a sweetheart deal for Bambiecare because 300 million is not even considered close to a deal/kickback in the Demorat Obambie administration or Senate.

  84. 84. robotech master

    Seems alot of info coming out about this story and that O’Keefe was onto something… maybe the dems figured out who he was… the charges are a joke as I’ve read them and will never hold up in court unless they have some real proof(which it doesn’t seem they have from the info from the FBI).

    I guess were going to see who gets the last laugh in this one… somehow I have a feeling this story is going to die then come back up just in time for election season…

  85. 85. Fearless Leader

    This Louisianian Watergate story will be on the front page of every lefty progressive news rag/blog in America.

    Bambie’s state of the union teleprompter address will be buried on page 12-
    next to the classified used lawn mower adds and pure manure discounts.

    Good job Mr. O’Keefe,

    you did it again.

    Bha Ha.

  86. 86. pelaut

    So these are our heroes?
    Overage boys feeling bulletproof because of their over-priviledged families.

    More Republican Country Club undereducated boobery like from MacCain.
    Such a boob he didn’t know he’d be tracked by radical left hirlings. Jerk!

  87. 87. Don Pullen

    Accusations are not proof of guilt. Like Clinton, Obamacult must try to destroy its enemies. Smells like a set-up to me. It’s an attempted pre-trial conviction.

  88. 88. goy

    @79. richard: – Did you all take a step back and say we need to reserve judgment on ACORN because we don’t yet have all the facts?

    Didn’t need to. There were multiple instances of video evidence showing the ACORN boobs incriminating themselves. Reserving judgment would have required ignoring the facts.

    When Landrieu’s office or the FBI produces video or other incriminating evidence, let’s talk. Until then, we know only two things. First, O’Keefe was savvy enough to beat ACORN at their own propaganda game, so it’s possible he may have an angle here. Second, we have the subjective information in the FBI report, the facts of which have yet to be determined.

    So yeah, take a step back.

  89. 89. RickGreenvilleSC

    If these guys broke the law, they need to pay the price. It would be nice to see some parity though( like the Black Panthers getting off instead of getting punished). Jerkoffs like little sleezy, I mean skeezix are happy now, but don’t get too happy ,skeez, there will be stuff on your guys too. . . .

  90. 90. Poor Citizen

    The Acorn thingy again?

    Must be a slow news day in Gotham City.

    Holy Nutcakes…

  91. 91. Mike Sheard

    Something doesn’t add up. Filming with a cellphone camera? Let him have his day in court. There are two sides to every story. If he guilty of wrongdoing have him pay the price.

  92. 92. richard

    @goy – It turned out later that the ACORN videos were heavily doctored. There was far less to them thn met the eye, except in the eyes of those who had already made their conclusions about ACORN.

    It is beyond belief that conservatives are grasping to rationalize or mitigate a clearly illegal and punishable act that goes against every precept of conservatism. If they had such burning news to tell us, surely there must have been a way to find out about it legally, no?

  93. If they requested access before witnesses to the Telecoms Closet, which is the Junction Box, then they are in serious trouble. If they can mount a defense based on getting out a story of Landrieu’s corruption and ties to Acorn, which was run along with the SEIU and umpteen front organizations from one house in New Orleans, then the story might get interesting. The MSM will try to yawn about anything that focuses on Landrieu, since when corruption in Louisiana news? Efforts to get her phone records through Discovery will probably be suppressed. If the prosecutors can argue that anyone had prior knowledge of this or paid them in advance to get the Senator then they will try to go up the chain. If I was Breitbart I would lawyer up.

    The best hope that O’Keefe has is if he was suckered into this by an agent provocateur. If that can be proved, and the prosecutor will try to hide it, then the case may be thrown out. The second best hope that he has is that the election of Bobby Jindal in LA, like the election of Scott Brown in MA, has punctured the Democratic Party oligarchy’s air of invincibility. The Landrieus have probably built up many enemies over the years, there are people whose families died because of their incompetence and arrogance after Katrina. This may be an opportunity for stories to come out. To stop that the DoJ may want to make the story go away but that is a very thin reed to lean on.

  94. 94. Mr Lucky

    76. skeeziks.

    Moho speaks.

    “Hidden cameras? You think that’s what this is about? Nooooo. It’s about trying to wiretap a senator’s phone. Duh. You realize, of course, when you sputter such manifestly disingenuous crap crap that you cast a pall over all of your comments. You create a credibility problem beyond that which already exists among the hard right.

    Then again, every little bit helps, so by all means, continue.”

    Yes, by all means Mr. Multiple Personality, Pee Wee moho – kochevnik – Shawn Ondeen – skeeziks – Blovis – American Muslim – Alice Nolin – Whatever Twilight Zone Dummy, please continue. So what about the matter at hand? Well, well, the Modern Liberal Cesspooler suddenly turns law and order – when convenient. So which personality is Joe Stalin today?

    Heaven forbid a possible crime against humanity! Maybe these guys should be tried in NYC too!

    Let’s make the most of this, it’s all I got, Mr. President is going moderate Republican, most people dislike him (why?) and I just hate the world anyway. Yeah, The script, A View From a Cesspool isn’t selling either. I did change my pen pal name to sleazzits, but no matter, the same old sewage keeps spewing forth.

    You should cast your Cesspooler net wider than just mentioning some PJMers, isn’t Massachusetts guilty of bring some dark despair down on you as well?

    “You create a credibility problem beyond that which already exists among the hard right”.

    “… then all my most carefully crafted insults would never serve to illustrate the depth of stupidity represented by this website.”

    It’s all about vengeance. The pseudo political viewpoint platform only servers a method of vengeance for some unknown crime that has been committed against Mr. Multiple Personality.

    This is choice –

    ” goy, misanthropicus, delia, meryl, moongoose, of guello, bilgeman, rachel peepers, fred beloit, baal . . . your public awaits you. Please, indulge yourselves. I belive the word is “principle.” Discuss.”

    Right. How long have you been posting here sleazzits? Your certainly do know all the above mentioned. Quite well. Again, how long have you been posting here sleazzits?

    “Please, indulge yourselves. I belive the word is “principle.” Discuss.’”

    Ok moho, why not discuss? Tell PJM about the multiple personalities. “Discuss”. “Indulge”. “Principle.” Please do.

    Speak as the Paragon of Modern Liberal Virtue. Speak.

    How about telling us about your connection to Van Jones? And your family in the Military, how are they doing? Are those muggers still running from you and your “Courage and Intelligence”?

    Do you need a reminder? Whatever.

  95. 95. skeeziks

    71. goy:
    The priority disconnect is just plain astounding.

    Two words: death panels.

    Better yet, here you go: “If a liberal had done this, it would be the only thing Fox News was talking about.” Need proof? O’Keefe’s ACORN videos. The word petard comes to mind.

  96. 96. goy

    @92. richard: – It turned out later that the ACORN videos were heavily doctored.
    Is that what MediaMatters told you? Pardon me while I LOL.

    So… when 60 Minutes puts together an incriminating video it’s called “editing”. When ABC news leaves out key portions of an interview, that’s called “editing”. But when someone like O’Keefe does the same thing – and it happens to expose the corruption endemic to far-left communi[s]ty organizations – it’s “heavily doctored”. Right. Funny stuff. And you’re accusing THIS crowd of nurturing double standards?? Give me a break.

    - … conservatives are grasping to rationalize …
    That’s just your overactive, morally adolescent imagination. Conservatives are doing nothing of the sort. No one has “rationalized” anything because all the facts are not yet known. Again, do you have video evidence – “heavily doctored” or otherwise – of O’Keefe incriminating himself? Uhm… no. Meanwhile, guessing what the hell O’Keefe’s reasons for this stunt might have been is not “rationalizing”, sonny.

    Unlike the corrupt heads of ACORN, whose serial ineptitude had them rationalizing every exposure of their illegal operations – one step behind O’Keefe and Giles throughout the entire debacle – conservatives will universally vote for punishing O’Keefe if he turns out to be guilty of a serious crime. See if they don’t.

    Until then, watching your apoplectic attempts to compare an apple to an orange is just good entertainment.

  97. There’s going to be an awful lot of smoke being sent up by the Democrats on this one. The attempt, in short, will be to obscure what’s really going on here. See, I can’t help but think that the resulting trial is going to reveal far more about Mary Landrieu than she would be comfortable with.

    Here’s why I think so:

    Let’s take this independent of the morality question for just a moment. It seems reasonable to assume that there was some lawbreaking going on here. And also seems reasonable to assume that somebody who demonstrated such intelligence in the ACORN affiar does not simply go in tapping phones on a fishing expedition. You go in knowing that there’s something there to uncover, or you simply don’t take that risk.

    I have to assume that there is far more to this story than we know at the moment. Personally, I will be most interested in seeing what it is that O’Keefe has on Landrieu…And I fully expect that to come out in the trial. Which, the way things time out will come out just about the time that we are due for another election.

    As to whether not all the charges will hold up, I’ll reserve judgment. I’ve read the affidavit, I’m less than convinced that they will hold up, frankly, but then again, this is the Democrat party stronghold of New Orleans, where you can not only indict a ham sandwich you can convict it if you like, and have some political clout.

    I will also warn you, that the mainstream media will tend to ignore anything that surfaces about corruption and Sen. Mary Landrieu… after all, corrupt Democrats , particularly in that part of the country, are hardly news.

  98. 98. skeeziks

    94. Mr Lucky:

    Whatever temporary grasp on reality being provided by your prescription is beginning to fade. I suggest you ask your doctor to switch you from Hannitarium to Van Susterinix. I believe the shift from Christianity to Scientology might ease your guilt. Once the confusion between your principles and your actions subsides, you can consider returning to the fold. But take it slow . . . baby steps, Mr. Lucky.

    Step #1 – learn your colors and shapes
    Step #2 – learn that actions have consequences
    Step #3 – read things that contain facts
    Step #4 – get a job
    Step #5 – don’t act on your violent or repressive urges
    Step #6 – tell the truth
    Step #7 – stop buying Hillbilly Heroine from your maid
    Step #8 – cancel your cable subscription
    Step #9 – stop getting diapered by Bourbon Street hookers
    Step #10 – sell your loofah
    Step #11 – take down your Ann Coulter posters
    Step #12 – quit whining

    There you go, your own little 12-step Program. No charge.
    there you go,

  99. 99. skeeziks

    96 goy

    Now goy attempts his final dive off the 3-meter platform. He’s chosen a classic dive with a high degree of difficulty – the triple spin double fox pike gainer with a Limbaugh twist. Here he goes, he launches and . . . OH! He slams his head into the board and crumbles into the water . . . He’s flailing away in the deep end trying his best to stay afloat . . . Somebody, anybody, go retrieve goy! . . . There go the EMTs . . . thank god for our first responders, and while I’m at it, thank god for our soldiers and sailors, our marines and coast guard personnel, all our brave men and women in uniform, and our police and firefighters, too . . . and thank god for Goldline, ladies and gentlemen, that’s where I buy my gold . . . they’re pulling goy from the pool . . . Oh! that’s just a shame . . .

    Here’s a tip, goy, next time a subject comes up that you know nothing about, or somebody asks a question that completely eludes you, just say, “All of them.” It works for Sarah Palin. No reason it can’t work for you.

    Child.

  100. 100. goy

    @95. “skeeziks”: – Two words: death panels.

    So this is the equivalence you want to make, Moho? If so, you forgot a step. When you manufacture a compelling argument to support it, do post. Until then you’ll continue to attract the ridicule you so richly deserve and, apparently, desire.

  101. 101. Tom Perkins

    “It turned out later that the ACORN videos were heavily doctored.”

    Except it didn’t. Not one image or millisecond of sound was tampered with. The import of the videos remains the same, that approximately none of the ACORN personnel involved attempted to disuade their customers from illegal activity, or even batted an eye at it. I think one or two offices decided days later to report the criminal activity they were ostensible confronted with.

    Proving ACORN = scum of the earth.

    Thank you, O’Keefe and friends.

    For doing the job the FBI and DOJ wouldn’t do.

    For the record, I will not be surprised if this arrest has nothing to it except creative and malicious interpretation of code.

  102. 102. Mr Lucky

    98. skeeziks.

    Gee moho, Mr. Multiple Personality, how about “Discuss”. “Indulge”. “Principle.” Rather than the moho trademark misdirection? No outright… denial? What?

    Good reason not to? What would than be? Isn’t interesting how one personality drops out and another appears with the same message, same cadence, same same same old moho.

    Using the good old Modern Liberal Mental Illness ploy again? And again. Clever? Smart? Pretty stale and lame. Lame lame lame. But then again, that’s the Pee Wee moho – kochevnik – Shawn Ondeen – skeeziks – Blovis – American Muslim – Alice Nolin – Whatever Twilight Zone Dummy routine. Lameness with a vengeance.

    You’re much too obvious moho.

    Hey moho, send me a message from the other side. Call somebody stupid, or something. Be lame.

    Hurry. Van Jones is waiting. Your family in the Military? Those muggers are waiting for your “Courage and Intelligence”?

    Whatever.

  103. 103. M. Report

    In vino, veritas.
    How drunk were these guys when they thought this up ?

    This is beginning to look like a publicity stunt,
    analogous to pretending to rob a bank armed with
    those big, multi-colored plastic water guns.

    What they may not know, and some commentators here
    would rather not recall, is that if the Feds want
    you bad enough, they will get you, and guilt has
    nothing to do with it; Ask Martha Stewart.

    But hey, we are all felons now, due to the growth
    of the list of offenses so classified by the State;
    Didn’t some dead white dude from France make a comment
    about that, way back in the Day ?

  104. 104. goy

    @99. “skeeziks”: – Here’s a tip, …

    Moho, if you intended to make an actual point with all that adolescent blabber, you failed to include it.

    Apparently, the last few weeks have been particularly difficult for you and the rest of your disassociated personalities. Now, one tiny hint of something you fantasize as “vindication” and you’re off the deep end (as it were), dominating well over 10% of the comments in this thread. Guess OFA is still paying you by the post, eh?

    - Child
    Classic projection.

  105. 105. Mr Lucky

    98. skeeziks moho

    Hillbilly reference again moho? “You forgot “toothless”. Can’t help yourself. Just love them hillbillies?

    “…stop buying Hillbilly Heroine from your maid”
    Jan 27, 2010 – 7:49 am

    “251. moho:

    After some quiet reflection, I realize now that I’m completely wrong…”
    Nov 27, 2009 – 8:28 am

    “252. Moho:

    “Malingering hillbillies…”

    ” that you are, your traditional dishonest manipulation of turning the event into a four day holiday fails with people who don’t share your enthusiasm for the celebration of the triumph of holocaust. Back to work, you shiftless cousin-f%^^%ers.”
    Nov 27, 2009 – 10:28 am

    What about Van Jones? Time for another I.D. change? What will the next one be?

    Such a truth teller. Muggers? Family in the Military? Wannbe Jihadist!

    How about that book, The Youngsters of moho? Keep giving excerpts on PJM.

    Come on moho, get with it. Whatever.

  106. 106. Tom Perkins

    Patterico has looked at the affadavit, and there is no evidence in it of an attempt to wiretap.

    http://patterico.com/2010/01/27/washington-post-writer-makes-assumptions-about-okeefe-that-the-facts-dont-cash-again/

    In fact, there’s no evidence in it of O’Keefe committing any crime at all–only journalism.

  107. 107. skeeziks

    goy and Mr Lucky . . .

    The last time I saw such contortions I was watching Cirque de Soleil. Were you on OJ’s Dream Team?

    Face it, the same idiots you hail on Fox News as Power Player of the Week, the same idiots you submit House Resolutions to honor, are the same bumbling charlatans who epitomize the hard right extremists in this great nation of ours – media created celebuwannabes imbued with relevance by conservatives desperately seeking validation through any means necessary.

    I applaud your sideways evolution. You’ve mastered the lowest wrung on the ladder. If you look up, you can see my liberal ass miles above you.

  108. 108. avoidswork

    Let’s see. Per FBI affidavit, O’Keefe (fauxpimp) and Dai are accused of aiding Basel and Flanagan (son of a US Attorney). They were dressed as telephone repair men and are charged with illegal tampering.

    The four have admitted to aiding each other in gaining entry into Landrieu’s office.

    Looooove that FNC aired virtually nothing on this last night but poured over SOTU Address to be given tonight. InsHannity had the TurdBlossom on and O’Really? had on Colmes, DNozzle Crowley, etc. Sustern briefly mentioned O’Keefe and that was it.

    You people realize that ACORN is pursuing legal charges against O’Keefe and Giles for violating laws regarding their tapings, right? You do know that the pimp costume was never worn in ACORN offices. You do know that ACORN never filed any paperwork on behalf of O’Keefe and his ho’ or that ACORN offices turned him away, correct? Or that the courts overturned the funding ban on ACORN in mid-December 2009.

    Right?

    Yeah, I’m certain since FNC has aired that. ((rolls eyes))

    Man, your side has loads of Teh Stoopid or the crazy military rapists/sodomists ala Marine Sgt. Charles Dyer (aka “July4Patriot” and an “OathKeeper”). Stay classy, peeps. Stay classy.

  109. 109. Tish

    It’s amazing what America can acccomplish when ACORN’s hands are tied. Just look at MA, NJ and VA. Thank you James O’Keefe.

  110. 110. goy

    @107. “skeeziks”: – … I was watching Cirque de Soleil.

    And you’re still hallucinating, apparently. To wit…

    - … the same idiots you hail on Fox News …
    I don’t watch Fox News. And as a rule I generally don’t “hail” anyone. That’s just you hallucinating.

    - … the same idiots you submit House Resolutions to honor …
    Ditto. I haven’t submitted anyone for a House Resolution for a LONG time. Years, at least. Just you hallucinating. Again.

    – … media created celebuwannabes …
    Like BHO.

    Anyway, speaking of you and your petard, O’Keefe was hardly “created” by the media. Quite the reverse. His work certainly improved FNC’s runaway ratings and superior level of public trust. If he hadn’t taken the initiative to expose one of the most corrupt organizations in America, no one would ever have heard of him and this story would have been ignored by everyone, including you. The fact that ACORN was REPEATEDLY duped and made to look like babbling fools by this kid is the only thing that gives it traction. Happily, it’s also the thing that keeps you posting objective evidence of your insanity.

  111. 111. Commuter

    My take on this so far after reading a few websites, including ones with legal expertise. So far what it’s worth:

    There is an affidavit based on witness accounts that there was a crime. The witness accounts are vague, but are enough to charge the group with a crime.

    Could be there is a crime here and serious up to tampering/wiretapping, but so far there is nothing but speculation based on allegation supporting it. O’Keefe and his friends have so far not admitted to anything more than gaining access to Landrieu’s office.

    There is no hard evidence that a crime was committed at this point. There is an allegation based on a witness account that one of the group ‘manipulated a phone’. There is an assumption that there was some shenanigans in the tele closet based on the fact that the group requested access to the closet. (There is no direct allegation by a witness that anything in the closet was touched). there is an allegation made by an unnamed ‘source’, without any more provenance than it’s in some report the unamed source saw, that one of the group was in a car several blocks away with a listening device.

    Another plausible scenario with background to consider:

    O’Keefe is no dope. He would have realized that any tampering with the phone lines would cross the line into a criminal act. I don’t know enough about the guy to say whether it’s likely he would have risked it, but it’s a safe bet he knew the danger and consequences.

    O’Keefe is not a conservative, but a libertarian. His driver’s are limited and responsible government, and he’s not necessarily for the republicans.

    One of Landrieu’s outs for voting for the health care was that she did not get that much negative feedback from constituents. The reports from here constituents say that they could not get through to her because of busy lines.

    I think it’s quite possible that what OKeefe was after had something to do with discovering what sort of phone service Landrieu’s office had – something along the lines of whether the service should have supported the number of negative calls implying that a number of lines have to be shut down to provide cover for the claim that she wasn’t getting the negative feedback before voting yes on the Senate version of Obamacare.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if O’Keefe was onto something and is clean based on what I’ve gathered on this matter and what I know of his history.

    At any rate, there’s nothing concrete yet to support what the thread’s resident marching moron is yawping about.

  112. 112. goy

    @108. avoidswork: – They were dressed as telephone repair men and are charged with illegal tampering.
    You should take the time to actually read the FBI document. O’Keefe wasn’t wearing a repairman’s uniform, as your garbled and misleading assertion implies.

    - The four have admitted to aiding each other in gaining entry into Landrieu’s office.
    Which is a public office in a public building. This is not a crime.

    - InsHannity… TurdBlossom… O’Really… DNozzle…
    How positively… what’s the word… adolescent.

    - … ACORN is pursuing legal charges against O’Keefe and Giles…
    No longer news. And hardly surprising.

    - … the pimp costume was never worn in ACORN offices.
    Did someone claim it was?

    - … ACORN never filed any paperwork on behalf of O’Keefe …
    Did someone claim they did?

    - … ACORN offices turned him away …
    Right. Which is how they got all that juicy video. Try again.

    - … the courts overturned the funding ban on ACORN …
    A court. One judge. And the decision is under appeal … by BHO’s Justice Department.

    - … I’m certain since FNC has aired that.
    Yup.

  113. 113. CJ

    #76 Skeezoid

    “You realize, of course, when you sputter such manifestly disingenuous crap crap that you cast a pall over all of your comments. You create a credibility problem beyond that which already exists among the hard right. Then again, every little bit helps, so by all means, continue.”

    You should know, you’re the king of it here. I’ll reserve judgement until theres an actual trial. Unless, of course, your Messiah threw that out with the rest of the Constitution he doesn’t believe in.

  114. 114. Mr Lucky

    107. skeeziks moho

    Moho the Lying Modern Liberal Cesspooler Speaks!

    Notice that not once, have any of the Multiple Personalities denied being moho, nor has moho ever denied being one of the other Multiple personalities. Never. One would think that someone with some measure of self-respect would in the least protest and announce, “I am not moho”. Or that Pee Wee moho – kochevnik – Shawn Ondeen – skeeziks – Blovis – American Muslim – Alice Nolin would proclaim “I am not ___________”.

    Curious isn’t it? There is no political objective with this Cesspooler, other than emulating that Modern Liberal American Idol, Mr. President himself. Make something else up! Find blame somewhere. Hate, with passion! That’s the ticket.

    Hey moho. Van Jones. Family in the Military too?

    Remember?

    94. Moho.

    “My son’s a bit old to be looking for a mentor, and I doubt Van Jones will be mentoring him since he’s in the marines and currently stationed in Iraq.”
    Sep 4, 2009 – 8:43 pm

    “The last time I saw such contortions I was watching Cirque de Soleil.”

    “Contortions”? The Pee Wee moho – kochevnik – Shawn Ondeen – skeeziks – Blovis – American Muslim – Alice Nolin – Whatever Twilight Zone Dummy wallows in it’s own self created Cesspool of Lies. “Contortions”? “Contortions”?

    Need more?

    Never could relate to Van Jones? Didn’t you work with him? Time for another personality? Did you ever deny knowing Van? Check the record.

    And your funhouse mirror goes off with –

    6. skeeziks

    “Uh-huh . .. hehehehehe . .. bwaaaaaaaaaaaa . . . *spews coffee all over keyboard* . . . literally rolling on the floor, running around the neighborhood laughing . . literally . . . really . . . surpised much?”

    The mirror is laughing at you. With quite a few others.

    Not at all “surprised”. And right on cue. Another one. 107 talking to 108. So sleazits is dead now. Time to move on with the con.

    The new old moho –

    108. avoidswork.

    “You people…”

    Of course. The signature moho phrase. Can’t help yourself. And you no longer can be use moho. Trapped by your own need to hate. The behavior has been modified to some extent at times, the LOL’s, the pwned’s etc., simple markers like those cannot be used any longer without being so identifying. Like a pet dog with bad manners…

    “You people”. Yes indeed, the Mr. Multiple Personality of PJM, operating on such a level of dishonesty that the dishonesty is so natural that the perpetrator no longer knows one personality from the other, and really, was that knowledge ever present?

    Then this bit of class. Yeah, classic moho.

    “Man, your side has loads of Teh Stoopid or the crazy military rapists/sodomists ala Marine Sgt. Charles Dyer (aka “July4Patriot” and an “OathKeeper”). Stay classy, peeps. Stay classy.”

    The rage, the rage, carries on. Classy!

    So now you’re becoming avoidswork full time? Come on deny. Deny! You can’t. On one hand you will have to be honest to yourself. Not possible, apparently. On the other hand if you’re honest, well does that say about moho?

    So. How’s Van Jones these days? Have your family members come back from Iraq? Those muggers, were they really armed? Say hi to Lou Foolspin. Whatever. Liar.

    Run with it Mr. Con Man, it’s all you have.

  115. 115. skeeziks

    goy:

    moral adolescence = Glenn Beck wouldn’t have called Obama a racist if Obama hadn’t make Beck think that.

    Why try so desperately to defend the indefensible? O’Keefe is a schmuck. You thought he was a hero. (Yes, I’m using the collective you. I don’t pretend to know which TV programs you watch. But I do know how you think and why you think in “that way” . . . the conservative, Fox News, Power Player of the Week, House Resolution way. Don’t throw your conservitard brothers and sisters overboard, goy. It’s a sign of weakness.)

    So, I suggest you move on to the canonization of Scott “The White Jesus” Brown. As you may know, we’re now living in “The Scott Brown Era” according to Fox News, which I know you don’t watch, you only link to it.

    By the way, if you think Cirque de Soleil is a hallucination, you’ve just proven you can’t discern the difference between reailty and the fictions in your own head. Thanks for confirming. (Don’t look now, but there’s something brown and shiny running out the bottom of your pant leg. I think it’s Mr Lucky. )

  116. 116. skeeziks

    113. CJ:
    I’ll reserve judgement until theres an actual trial.

    Why start reserving judgment now? Oh, right because it’s one of your own who’s been accused. That’s right. I remember now how you people think. Arbitrary principles. Situational ethics. Thanks for the reminder.

    You have no standing.

  117. 117. goy

    @115. “skeeziks”: – Glenn Beck wouldn’t have called Obama a racist if Obama hadn’t make Beck think that.”

    That is not a sentence. Give it another try, nimrod. We’ll wait.

    - Why try so desperately to defend the indefensible?
    Calling you out on your inability to comprehend a simple affidavit and your arrogant, erroneous declarations regarding who I “hail” or submit to the House is not a defense of anything. It’s a demonstration of your intellectual impotence.

    And just so we’re clear on your thought process (so-called), what exactly do you think is ‘indefensible’ here? That some enterprising kid – who, unlike you, has already made a huge name for himself by exposing political corruption – was most likely trying to get more dirt on a ‘manifestly’ corrupt politician? I’m sure everyone is just dying to know. (Not really. But every time you post, you provide more objective evidence demonstrating your PD. Nothing like consistency.)

    - O’Keefe is a schmuck.
    Your opinion. Doesn’t mean much in this venue, moho. Trust me on that one.

    - You thought he was a hero.
    As usual, you arrogantly assume to know what I think.

    - (Yes, I’m using the collective you.
    Ah, so now you’re compounding your preceding arrogance by assuming you know what many people think. Sorry, sport. Based on your commentary, it’s clearly impossible for you to comprehend the notion of an individual, but the people you think you understand so well are not a ‘collective’, and you clearly have no idea what they think, or why.

    - I don’t pretend to know which TV programs you watch.
    Sure you did. See above. Now you’ve added lying to your madd skillz.

    - But I do know how you think and why you think in “that way”
    You haven’t a clue, actually, how I think. On top of that, I’m guessing it just bugs the living crap out of you to know that someone has actually figured out how and why YOU think the way you do.

    - Don’t throw your conservitard brothers and sisters overboard…
    Maybe you should just stop hallucinating. That might help.

    - … I suggest you move on to the canonization of Scott “The White Jesus” Brown.
    That would violate the separation of church and state, nimrod.

    - As you may know, we’re now living in “The Scott Brown Era” according to Fox News, …
    Uhmm… so far, that’s just according to you. If I cared enough I might check you on it, but for now I’ll let you support your own assertions. One thing’s for sure, we’re no longer living in “The Obama Era”. Apparently, being “The Half-White Jesus” wasn’t enough to compensate for his vast reserves of ineptitude. Must be tough on the guy, being a lame duck president for three years of his only term.

    …which I know you don’t watch, you only link to it.
    Above, I linked to Fox in response to your dimwitted pal (or was that you too?) to demonstrate that they have in fact covered the issue s/he ((rolls eyes)) about.

    That said, since Americans now consider Fox to be the most trusted news source – a fact which I’m sure causes you no end of lower G.I. distress – it would seem appropriate to use them as a resource.

    - … if you think Cirque de Soleil is a hallucination, …
    Learn to read, moho. I said YOU were still hallucinating. Some 99% of your repertoire is based on hallucinations about other people you don’t know, can’t understand and will never persuade. You still can’t seem to breathe without the assistive aid of a straw man fallacy.

  118. 118. Aussie

    It would have been very stupid to be placing bugs in broad daylight. There is another possible explanation regarding what took place. Landrieu’s constituents have not been able to reach her because that office did something to the phones to divert them. Maybe these 4 were just trying to prove what took place…. nothing more….

    Unless the FBI have real evidence of bugs being found then this should not be mentioned.

    Let’s just wait and see what happens next.

  119. 119. skeeziks

    117 goy

    Nimrod? Who are you, George Gobel? Now, on the record, I’m not moho, so, there’s another piece of certainty turned contradiction on your part . . . in line with an overall deficit of character insight on the right – others and their own.

    An illustration:

    ” . . . since Americans now consider Fox to be the most trusted news source . . . it would seem appropriate to use them as a resource.”

    Until yesterday, they weren’t the most trusted news source, so they weren’t a reliable source until yesterday? The previous “most trusted” network was an appropriate source?

    Goy, Goy, Goy . . . don’t try so hard.

    Now, have you ever been to a live Cirque de Soleil show? Or is just too weird?

  120. 120. skeeziks

    117 goy

    Nimrod? Who are you, George Gobel? Now, on the record, I’m not moho, so, there’s another piece of certainty turned contradiction on your part . . . in line with an overall deficit of character insight on the right – others and their own.

    An illustration:

    ” . . . since Americans now consider Fox to be the most trusted news source . . . it would seem appropriate to use them as a resource.”

    Until yesterday they weren’t the most trusted news source, so they weren’t a reliable source until yesterday? The previous “most trusted” network was an appropriate source every day previous to this?

    Goy, Goy, Goy . . . don’t try so hard.

    Now, have you ever been to a live Cirque de Soleil show? Or is just too weird?

  121. 121. Delia

    Behaving badly?

    Beer summit after the SOTU!

  122. 122. Delia

    Acting stupidly?

    Throw in some pretzels and peanuts!

  123. 123. goy

    @119. “skeeziks”: – … on the record, I’m not moho …
    Of course you’re not, poor dear. Disassociative disorder is funny that way.

    - Until yesterday, they weren’t the most trusted news source, …
    Clearly false. Until yesterday, the fact that they’re the most trusted news source simply hadn’t been discovered and subsequently reported yet.

    - Now, have you ever been to a live Cirque de Soleil show?
    Yes. Twice.

    .

    @120.”skeeziks”: – …on the record, I’m not moho…
    Stuttering now? Watching too much of BHO’s adlibbed oratory over and over? That stuff’ll rot your brain. I’ll skip the snark about whether you actually have a brain. Just call me magnanimous.

  124. 124. Moho

    Goy:

    Are you still accusing everyone who makes you look like an idiot of being me? It certainly is flattering, but I can’t accept the accolade. You’re just plain stupid. By the way I haven’t been here in weeks, you dipshit…

  125. 125. Moho

    Jesus Christ, but this is hilarious. Half the posts here are accusations that Skeeziks is Moho. I can’t imagine any idiots having wasted their time more effectively. Note to Skeeziks, if they accuse you of being me, you know you’re frying their ganglia.

    By the way, isn’t there any spirited defense of O’Keefe to be found? No whining pleas that the media is misrepresenting him? Because that–after that idiot with the help of the entire Republican noise machine did a dishonest, cut and paste hack job that only a retarded bookie would call journalism on ACORN–would be like having twenty dollar a pound chocolate melt in my mouth.

  126. 126. goy

    @124. Moho: – … I haven’t been here in weeks …
    That feeling is not at all unusual for someone with dissociative psychosis. Clearly, the setbacks experienced by the socialists these past couple weeks have been too much for you to handle emotionally. See a professional. Meanwhile, go look up the difference between accusation and observation. You can fool some of the people some of the time – especially if all those people occupy that empty space behind your forehead.

  127. 127. skeeziks

    123. goybel:
    Clearly false. Until yesterday, the fact that they’re the most trusted news source simply hadn’t been discovered and subsequently reported yet.

    I got news for you, there’s a species of rodent that has the body of a dump rat and the head of Dick Cheney. They call it a Conservatool. It simply hasn’t been discovered yet. But trust me, it’s out there.

    Now, when you attended the CdS show, were you hallucinating? (In case you haven’t noticed, I’m taking you through your willful contradictions one step at a time. Careful how you answer, because the snare is set. You’ve been warned.)

    To Moho – Yeah, they’re absolutely certain that you and I are the same person. I think it makes it easier for them to focus – single taskers. What can you expect from people who think Scott Brown and Jesus are the same person? Kind a reminds me of the Mormons. Any day now I expect Brownk to reveal the golden book he found while hiking the Appalachian Trail. (That must be one helluva trail.)

  128. 128. Mr Lucky

    124. Moho.

    “By the way I haven’t been here in weeks…”

    “Oh, by the way…”. Sure moho. Just happened by and noticed all this. “Oh, by the way…”. How convenient. Just like that, look who pops up. Such timing. Must have been bouncing around your crystal cesspool.

    Hey moho. Don’t you know Van Jones? What about the family in the military?

    No, you really didn’t know what this was about, did you. Never did. Always the denial routine. You really do know Van Jones. On Sept. 4 you did. Right?

    “But I actually knew Jones in his communist days…”

    How would you qualify this? Is it deliberate lying or just a simple typo? Or maybe you’re just special.

    As one of the flock says,

    116. skeeziks.

    “You have no standing.”

    Van Jones, the Red ‘Green Czar,’ Is a Truther Too
    September 4, 2009 – by Clarice Feldman

    75. Mr Lucky:
    Dale and Moho. If you have children, would you have Van Jones be their mentor?
    Sep 4, 2009 – 4:39 pm

    94. Moho:

    “Dale and Moho. If you have children, would you have Van Jones be their mentor?
    My son’s a bit old to be looking for a mentor, and I doubt Van Jones will be mentoring him since he’s in the marines and currently stationed in Iraq.

    But I actually knew Jones in his communist days…

    …and can tell you that he, like I, shed the bs of the leftist crowd a long time ago. Jones’ work at the Ella Baker Center contributed a hundred times more to goodness in the world than any of you flaccid turds ever will. So yeah, had I the opportunity and inclination to seek out a mentor, Van Jones would be one of the first people I’d seek out. As for your opinion of Jones, I’d venture a guess that calling it uninformed would be an insult to the concept of ignorance. You have no idea what you’re talking about, like your compatriots posting here. Your leaders, and their pundits, tell you who to hate and how to hate them, and you jump in with both feet, literally having no clue about the issues or individuals in question. Pathetic morons.”
    Sep 4, 2009 – 8:43 pm

    Come on. Toss out a hillbilly. Misdirect. Say stupid. Be moho. Whatever.

  129. 129. skeeziks

    This just in from Rush on O’Keefe . . . ” ”

    Got a love a man with convictions. (Or in lieu of convictions, at least court-ordered behavioral restrictions.)

    Hail Rush! Go Sarah! Onward Scott!

  130. 130. skeeziks

    122. Delia:
    Throw in some pretzels and peanuts!

    NO! No pretzels! We can’t have someone choking and falling off the couch and cutting their head. (But then again, how likely is that?)

  131. 131. goy

    @127. “skeeziks”: – … trust me …
    You have to earn trust. FNC has. You haven’t. Quite the contrary, in fact, now that you’re posting to ‘yourself’.

    - … the snare is set.
    Heh. Only in your splintered imagination, nimrod.

  132. 132. skeeziks

    131. goy:
    Afraid of the snare, I see. Having witnessed the fate of so many others here, you have good reason. As you and I both know, refusing to answer is the best way to mitigate . . . oh, what’s the word . . . it’s right on the tip of my invoice, I mean tongue . . . RISK!

    As for posting to myself, well unless my name is goy (or goybel), your accusation is manifestly false. And since you never say anything manifestly false, you must be accurate. I am you. And thanks to your incredible insight and detective’s mind, I’m also moho. Which means . . . break out the Venn diagrammermatic . . . you are moho!

    Hossanah . . . sindaloo bopoloppa dander feegah!

    I have been enlightened!

  133. 133. Mr Lucky

    129. skeeziks:

    “Hail Rush! Go Sarah! Onward Scott!”

    I’ll be damned. Could it be? The Modern Liberal Turkey Now and Then goes moho with a new I.D and all.

    “Hail Rush! Go Sarah!” How mant time have you said that? That’s the Basted Turkey rappin’!

    Hey moho, need more info about you and Van Jones?

    You both do know that PJM comments are searchable. Way back. Good luck with your stories!

    Anvil Johnson, are you there? Whatever.

  134. 134. goy

    @132. skeeziks: – Afraid of the snare…

    Laughing at the “snare”, which is the only recourse left open to your adolescent ego now that you’ve retreated in abject defeat from addressing anything substantive.

  135. 135. Now and Then

    132. skeeziks:

    If you want to get his goat, just threaten goy. Then he’ll start accusing you of being me, and say you’re engaging in the chickensh!t, anonymous-threat-on-an-intertubes-discussion-board-by-some-angry-adolescent-socialist-dweeb-who-likes-to-talk-smack-as-long-as-there’s-no-chance-of-a-real-life-confrontation “thing”.

  136. 136. Mr Lucky

    35. Now and Then.

    So quick with the defense. And gone so long, and suddenly – Turkey Talk!

    Sorry about the moho thing. Just having some fun, you know how it is. Who wants to be that pet dog.

    132. skeeziks:.

    “If you want to get his goat, just threaten goy. Then he’ll start accusing you of being me, and say you’re engaging in the chickensh!t, anonymous-threat-on-an-intertubes-discussion-board-by-some-angry-adolescent-socialist-dweeb-who-likes-to-talk-smack-as-long-as-there’s-no-chance-of-a-real-life-confrontation “thing”.”

    Remember?

    34. Now and Then.

    “I think I’ve outgrown all of you. I’m operating on an different, higher plane.”

    Hey you Handsome Mixed European – American Mystical Turkey With a Touch of Black. It really is you. Why the misdirection? What’s up, man? Rosie O’Donnell didn’t work out?

    “If it’s me, well I see a couple bales of Northern Sensimilla, a stack of Mad Magazines, and a stripper named Rose I picked up from the local jiggle bar. Hi, Rose. Yeah, in a minute. First I gotta debug this data base.”

    “Blistering in its simplicity. Hilarious in its cadence and rhythm. Keep up the good work.”
    Dec 7, 2009 – 7:45 pm

    Gotta bunch of these. “Hail Rush! Go Sarah!” You’re all over with that one. Anybody can search that.

    Come on. Let’s have some fun like the old days. What’s with all this Modern Liberal Name Game?

    Chuck Chuck bo buck
    Banana rama… sleazits?

    You can do better. Anvil would dig it!

    Gobble gobble Goebbels!

  137. 137. Joseph

    57. Sara: “We have no idea why he was doing this.”

    Yes, there must be a reason why he was committing a felony! (My, how the right wing has suddenly gotten soft on crime.)

  138. 138. Moho

    Goy, what I love best is watching you try to pretend that you’ve won the day, after your dick has been so cleanly knocked into the dirt. Yes, I’ll be doing everything you told me to do shortly, what a brilliant riposte. As I’ve said before, direct this abuse at your wife and children. Its laughable elsewhere.

  139. 139. Moho

    Republicans been down so long…what I love is watching the sad sack Republicans jump for joy that the Democrats are only one seat away from a super majority. That’s hilarious. Like Goy consoling himself that his rod is a full quarter inch longer than Mr. Lucky’s quarter incher. Yes, all those horrible defeats Democrats have suffered; in a few more years, they may be as unpopular as Republicans!

  140. 140. CJ

    116: “You have no standing.”
    That’s kinda funny, because when you can comprehend English, you’ll know I took no stand. I’m going to wait for evidence and a trial. It’s all about the evidence.

    You know, the kind of thing once presented against that lying sack of excrement Billy “I never had sex with that woman” Clinton all you liberals quickly changed the subject from his lying and purjoring himself (quite impeachable) to, “Its just sex and it’s a personal matter” Oh brother.

    IF guilty, then he’s most definitely going to pay and I’m not going to lose a moment of sleep over it.

  141. 141. goy

    @138. Moho: – … you’ve won the day …

    No pretense required, as you well know from hard experience.

    Or, that is, you would know if you didn’t airbrush your every public humiliation out of your consciousness. You provide objective proof that consistent, willful denial of reality ultimately leads to a splintered, dissociated psyche.

  142. 142. skeeziks

    136. Mr Lucky:

    You act like I’m trying to hide my identity, which works pretty well with you given you were certain I was moho. So, keep guessing. (And thanks for repeating some of my greatest hits. Good stuff in there. Fear not, I’ll continue to give you deathless prose to populate your data bank on me. You should talk to Chuck Pelto, he has one, too. You guys really need a hobby.) Now, to more important things, did you go see that doctor I recommended?

    140. CJ:
    If you thought perjury was such a dastardly crime, you would be calling for Scooter Libby to be in prison. Until you do . . . you have no standing.

    141. goy:

    Word o’ the day? Splintered!

  143. 143. Mr Lucky

    139. Moho.

    Been away for weeks. Really now, what else has your funhouse mirror reported?

    The rage, the lying, the inability to answer simple questions. So what about you and Van Jones? How was it being a commie?

    Inconvenient truth?

    “But I actually knew Jones in his communist days…”

    Why not deny Van more time, just to make it real. Make it real. Make it real. How many times did you deny the Mr. Jones connection? Do a search of PJM yourself. And something is happing here…

    “Republicans been down so long…”

    So how did they mess up things, if they have “been down so long”?

    Check it out. The Lying Modern Liberal Pee Wee moho – kochevnik – Shawn Ondeen – Blovis – American Muslim – Alice Nolin – Whatever Twilight Zone Dummy defaults to the Nurse Nancy Pee Weeism rage against the world rap. Talking size. The cesspooler speaks. Cool man. Really with it. Moho, the Wannabe Wannabe.

    Come on moho, on the count of four, let loose. Be the ill mannered household pet. Let the cesspool splash on all that might turn the dirty lying dog rock over. “That’s hilarious.” Right on bro. Van Jones would love it.

    Hey how about this one –

    Decision ‘09: A Sharp Right Turn

    Christie wins NJ, McDonald sweeps VA. Two historic Republican victories in states Obama carried twelve months ago.

    November 2, 2009

    128. Mr Lucky:

    Hey, say hi to Van Jones for me.
    Nov 4, 2009 – 1:05 pm

    136. Mr Lucky:
    Did you say hello to Van Jones?

    141. Mr Lucky:
    Did you say hello to Van Jones? Or is Van dissing you now?

    139. Moho:

    I could lie about it from here to next Thursday, what difference would it make?
    Nov 4, 2009 – 8:01 pm

    More…

    Van Jones, the Red ‘Green Czar,’ Is a Truther Too
    September 4, 2009 – by Clarice Feldman

    “Could lie”? Do lie.

    Inconvenient truth?

    94. Moho:

    “But I actually knew Jones in his communist days…”

    Alice chimes in –

    59. Alice Nolin:

    “You can call me a fool all you want.”

    Fool. Foolspin.

    “Onan the Wannnabe Jihadist”? Selling well now? Yeah, that and moho the Lying Modern Liberal. Big sales there.

    Lie. It’s all you have. Whatever.

  144. 144. Moho

    Mr Lucky. As I always note, someday, someone will be able to read what you’re posting there. I hope its worth the time you put into that scatter of letters and lines. It certainly says more about your priorities in life, than it does about me.

  145. 145. Moho

    Skeeziks. What strikes me as most hilarious is that these nimrods would confuse us simply because we can write complete sentences and pose lucid arguments. I suppose that’s not common round here.

  146. 146. goy

    @145. Moho: – … these nimrods …

    Nimrods?

    Who are you, George Goebbels?

    Gobble, gobble.

  147. 147. Tom Perkins

    http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/jokeefe/2010/01/29/statement-from-james-okeefe/

    There is no evidence he is lying or even shading the truth. I suspect the charge will be dropped.

    An epic fail on the part of the left.

    Funny, lately you can’t stuff ballot boxes or railroad the innocent like you used to…

  148. 148. puffmommy

    147 Mr Perkins,

    I don’t know, linking to a statement by the accused on a website owned by the guy who hired him to do the stuff he’s accused of? Seems kinda, you know, weak.

  149. 149. Tom Perkins

    Oh yeah? Name one thing O’Keefe says which isn’t backed up.

    You may have noted every other major media outlet has also dropped this. They smell no story. The story will need fresh blood before sharks school again.

  150. 150. puffmommy

    149. Tom Perkins:

    Backed up by what? Fox News? if you were a genuine patriot, you’d be out looking for Nicole Simpson’s real killer.

  151. 151. sullyman

    You Cons are right! They must’ve been set up by the libral media and the libral attorney general because uv ACORN! They must’uv been on to something! The libral ACORN-loving media must be responsible! Plus the terrorist-loving AG, and the closet-muslim-fascist-communist-socialist Barack Hussein Obama!

  152. 152. sullyman

    Mr. Lucky,

    You are a retard (satirically speaking)!

  153. 153. sullyman

    Geeze, either the moderator has the work ethic of a lazy government worker, or the thought police are in control at this site.

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