FBI Crime Stats Show an Armed Public Is a Safer Public
Data from the U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation show that America has been on a firearms buying spree since the end of 2005. Meanwhile, the FBI recently released preliminary 2009 crime data indicating that violent crime has been dropping at an accelerating rate since the end of 2006.
The FBI reports the number of background checks, by month, requested for potential firearms purchases through licensed dealers. When a prospective buyer wants to buy a gun, he fills out a form which the dealer submits to law enforcement. If approved, the sale proceeds. This system is called the National Instant Criminal Background Check System, or NICS for short.
Between November 2005 and October 2009, nearly every month’s requests were higher than the year before. (For example, there were 12.4% more NICS requests in September 2009 than in September 2008.) The sole exception was December 2007, which saw 1.9% fewer requests than December 2006. On an annual basis, each year’s total saw double-digit growth over the previous year beginning in 2006.
NICS data mirror the estimated sales data from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives, which also show double-digit growth beginning in 2006. (Not all background checks result in one gun being purchased.)
The chart below shows that after gun sales attained record growth in 2006, violent crime rates began to fall in 2007. As gun sales continued to register records each following year, violent crime rates decreased at an accelerating rate.
More guns, less murder
The following chart shows that, like overall violent crime, after gun sales began to peak in 2006, the murder rate declined at an accelerating pace beginning in 2007, going from -0.7% to -3.9% in 2008, to -7.2% in 2009.
Murder rates are perhaps the best indicator of violent crime trends, compared to the other FBI major violent crimes. A dead body with bloody wounds clearly indicates violence, but living victims don’t always tell police they were assaulted. The FBI calculates violent crime rates based upon what’s reported to police.
After the Virginia Tech shooting, Katie Couric interviewed Paul Helmke, president of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence. Said Helmke:
“While it is ‘people who kill people,’ they do so more often, and more successfully because we make it so easy to get such lethal weapons [guns].”
It’s true that NICS data show how easy it is for Americans to buy guns, but FBI crime data shows that law-abiding gun owners are not the problem.
More guns, less rape, robbery, and aggravated assault
The table below shows that after NICS requests attained 10% annual growth during the 2006-2009 period, crime rates for all four FBI major violent crimes began to decrease, generally at accelerating rates.
Is this because criminals know more people have been buying guns and getting concealed carry permits? Even old media has been reporting the surge in gun sales.
In 2006, ABC reported:
More women, from soccer moms to professionals like the ones at the Blue Ridge Arsenal gun range in Chantilly, Va., are packing heat for sport, self-empowerment and protection.
In gun-unfriendly California, ABC recently reported:
Local gun shop owners are seeing an increase in the number of women customers. Personal protection is the main reason they’re shopping. According to the national shooting sports foundation, almost half the people taking their first handgun class this past year were women.
These are just two examples of the numerous articles about new women shooters and their desire to empower themselves with effective self-defense tools.
You could make a much stronger case for abortion as the reason, as Freakonomics demonstrated. This is a laughable exercise in post hoc ergo propter schlock.
Just a coincidence eh Shef? No correlation between increased gun purchases and decreased crime rate?
Or did you just post to show off the new spiffy words you just picked up?
Obviously there is a correlation but it’s far from clear whether there is a causal relationship between gun sales and violent crime. All we can conclude from the data presented is that increased gun sales don’t cause an increase in violent crime. It’s not much, but it’s something.
John Lott not only disagrees with you, but has written several books on the subject.
More guns in the hands of the law abiding has always resulted in a drop in violent crime.
Point Blank by Kleck is another good source – it’s not as smooth a read as Lott’s book but is very thorough.
And the great thing is; Lott’s statistics are unimpeachable. Quod erat demonstrandum.
Fair enough, that may be a bridge too far, but what is conclusive is that the vast increase in legally owned firearms has NOT led to an explosion (or even an increase) in violence. Considering that is the argument and prediction gun control advocates made, this study debunks their theory resoundingly.
Shef: I agree with you somewhat, but there seems to be a strong correlation. Even at the State and city level, you will frequently see significant drops in crime (typically violent crime) over time with a corresponding increase in private gun ownership. So, we can’t just dismiss it all as “schlock”. Although, after a thorough investigation is complete, the author’s point may be just that. But I’ll say this much for now: the more a potential violent criminal thinks his victim may be armed, the more thought he’ll give before committing the crime.
Makes sense, and then the question is WHY the 2nd Amendment in the US Constitution. Could it be that an armed citizenship / “militia” is safer than an unarmed one — from guess who? Could it be the dinosaur Founding Fathers knew something modish “intellectuals” from “elite” universities and “Blue States” / bien – penants and “liberals” either don’t know or don’t like — for some reason?? Isn’t SELF-Defense valid lawful DEFENCE against unsolicited violence/aggrssion? Everywhere?
You use the word “laughable”. Why? It would seem that most crimes–even up to a point those of “passion”–are subject to the cost/benefit analysis any other risky activity would be subjected to. When you know that the other person can’t legally own a gun, as in, say, Britain, then your risks are quite low. If you know every other person is packing, that changes things.
I remember some years ago a home invasion I read about. Four men were sitting around a table playing cards, and some guy came busting in with a gun. Two of the men were armed, and they shot and killed him. Simple enough.
This evaluation makes perfect logical sense: more guns, more deterrance, less crime.
I see that Shef has no arguments, again.
If the Brady morons were right, violent crime should be skyrocketing. After all, they still argue that it’s access to guns that cause violent crimes.
So it’s a coincidence that every time, every place, where lawfull gun ownership goes up, violent crime goes down?
If so, abortion ain’t worth it. Besides the fact that it is evil to kill people for crimes they haven’t committed yet, the reduction in crime produced by abortion under the best-case scenario doesn’t come close to the trail of blood left by abortion itself. In time, America will come to admit that abortion is an even greater abomination than slavery, for while the slaves were abused and stripped of their liberty without just cause, their masters at least had a vested interest not to murder them; slaves were expensive, after all.
Shef, I love Freakanomics, but that section of the book made a significant goof: it ignored the fact that the big surge in abortions has been among middle-class women, not among the underclass which produces most criminals; nor does it take into account that nearly all the US population increase in recent years has been due, not to our replacement-level birthrate (again, fewer middle-class children, balanced by more lower-class)- but to immigration, much of it illegal.
Actually Shef, if you were looking outside your own navel you might have read John Lott’s ground-breaking “More guns Less Crime.” Much like Mr Nemerov, he started out believing firearms in the hands of civilians led to more violent crime, and discovered rather the reverse.
So no, this is not a fake correlation. It’s accurate. As Robert Heinlein said; “An armed society is a polite society.
Patrick
The “correlation is not causation” argument cuts both ways. Clearly the gun control advocates base their arguments purely on an assumed correlation–which not only isn’t the case but the data shows that gun purchases are anti-correlated with violence.
The writer actually had an even stronger argument available than the correlation with the drop in violent crime. Even gun-control advocates determined that firearms were used 1.5 million times in 1997 to prevent violent crime (National Institute of Justice, “Homicide in Eight U.S. Cities: Trends, Context, and Policy Implications,” Research Report (December 1997), p. 99.) and it is very possible that the number was higher. When more citizens have firearms for self-defense, then that number will rise. Fewer firearms, of course, means that the number of times people defend themselves with firearms (often not even having to fire) is reduced and the violent crime increases. Taking away the right of people to defend themselves simply means that more victims will be created–a scenario that Washington DC and Chicago are very familiar with.
I realize this is a much too reasonable responsive to the typical snark of a gun-control advocate–not having data or logic gun controllers have only weak ridicule to fall back upon, but others might find some of the data interesting and the weakness of your “correlation is not causation” snark exposed.
If the “aborting black babies reduces crime” claim is actually correct, it is plausible that a reduction in live births in the 1970s made a big difference in crime rates 16-20 years later. But what big change in abortion rates took place 16-20 years before the crime reduction that started in 2006? That would mean that some big change happened 1986-1990 to explain. Why is this more plausible than the suggested reason?
One could call this a repudiation of the popular leftist tenet that violent criminals can and should be “rehabilitated” instead of incarcerated. America has seen the recidivism numbers and knows this theory is false. Most crime is committed by career criminals.
After many years and needless suffering, we’ve figured out what we already knew – that criminals are the ones who should live in fear, not law-abiding citizens.
Our County Sheriff is soft spoken, many not be around his Deputies, and is very pragmatic. He has said publicly that our county is relatively peaceful because of our state laws defending the 2nd Amendment and the Castle. He meets with Sheriffs from across the USA and they are challenged with more home invasions, muggings and open displays of hostilities like confrontations for petty reasons and the worst act is vehiclar road rage. He said his officers receive very few reports of these “random” violent acts because repeat offenders can not assume they can overwhelm what on the surface appears to be weak opponent.
Law abiding gun owners have always known this. Leave us alone.
Hmmmm, the ‘assault weapons’ ban expired in 2004, but murders didn’t skyrocket. Amazing!
But of course, liberal government’s goal is NOT “a safer public” so the point is irrelevent no matter how well documented. I believe their goal is “a more compliant public.”
This is old news – statistics proving this have been circulating for quite some time now. In fact, the reciprocal is also true: cities with the most stringent gun control laws have the highest general crime rates, highest violent crime rates and highest gun crime rates – these cities are: Los Angeles, New York, and Washington DC.
In fact, the reciprocal is also true: cities with the most stringent gun control laws have the highest general crime rates, highest violent crime rates and highest gun crime rates – these cities are: Los Angeles, New York, and Washington DC.
New York does not fit your hypothesis. Blame Rudy G for that.
City violent crime rate/ 100000
New York 580
Los Angeles 690
Chicago
Houston 1107
Phoenix 660
Philadelphia 1441
Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department 985
San Antonio 718
Dallas 895
San Diego 476
San Jose 385
Honolulu 284
Detroit 1924
Indianapolis 1204
Jacksonville 996
San Francisco 845
Charlotte-Mecklenburg 932
Austin 522
Columbus 774
Fort Worth 656
Memphis 1925
Baltimore 1589
Washington 1375
New Orleans 1019
http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2008/data/table_08.html
I think a good part of the reduction in crime due to the easing of gun control laws is the effect that easing has on the moral of the leftoid control freaks. The law change breaks their momentum and others are able to start doing other stuff that results in less crime. Rudy was able to break that momentum without easing the gun control laws.
Lets see, 36,000 police officers to patrol a 380 sq mile area, approximately 1/3 of those for support and control functions, the remainder broken into 3 shifts means that there is approximately 21 policeman for every sq mile.
Yeah, the largest police force in the USA doesn’t have any impact on crime in NYC eh?
By the way, how is that data reported from NY as we have never, ever seen politicians cook the books eh?
Several years ago I was at a conference in Orlando. Not sure what my concealed carry rights were with respect to the convention center (I am not from Florida and their statutes were up to some interpretation), I asked a deputy about it. His first comment was “Boy we really like you guys, you help us a lot.” Thanks deputy, glad to be part of the solution.
I pray that I never have to even draw my carry but like a fire extinguisher, if I need it I will be prepared.
Hey Shef, why not just say that gun sales have gone up because CO2 levels have!! Just like AGW!!
Would UNC’s Eve Carson be alive today if she was a gun owner? With a firearm she would have had at least a 50/50 chance of being alive today. Without a firearm she had a ZERO chance to live.
Home invasions? Just 2 days ago a home invasion occurred in Durham resulting in one of the invaders dead and the other one arrested. Tell me again why you don’t want Law-Abiding Citizens to have firearm protection.
Thank you for this column, so rich of precious info.
And since increased sales and carry permits mean criminals are less and less certain of finding unarmed victims in the general public, they then focus on locations with unarmed. Namely, “gun-free” zones.
skk
Here in the Peoples Republic of Canuckistan….with gun laws like Chicago and New York….and similar effects….
Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.
Gun-control idiots who declare “nobody needs a gun!” Then cite the US as a dangerous place…
My favourite retort is:
“Ya know you could be right. I live in an old farm-house in the country…real safe…..I haven’t had an armed home invasion for…..nearly 5 years now.’
Ok, can anybody help come up with a better analysis? I’m having an argument with my brother, and he’s giving me the same “correlation does not automatically mean causation” argument.
That’s true when you have one or two examples. When the number of examples starts to stretch into the hundreds …
Any references that I can cite?
One good source was mentioned above.
John Lott’s “More Guns, Less Crime”.
Well just remember you can agree with him and point out the reverse is true too. Since there are not more guns it’s obvious they’re not the only cause for increased crime. So maybe something else should be looked at for now since more guns are here and yet we’re not getting huge increases in crime.
Paul, simply point out that with more guns, there hasn’t been any increase as the anti-safety crowd has claimed, and as others pointed out here.\
And Mark’s reply is the most common-sensical; there are dozens, maybe hundreds of studies.
Sounds like your brother has taken an introductory level stats class, with no additional training beyond that level.
In science, nothing can ever be conclusively proven. The most plausible explanation that fits the fact is accepted until that explanation is either disproven by new data or a new explanation that better explains the existing data is introduced and vetted.
In this case, as Mark pointed out, we have not one or two, but many many sets of data that point to a logical conclusion: higher gun ownership rates among law abiding citizens leads to lower crime rates, particularly violent crime rates.
Does your brother have a more valid explanation for the data? If not, then the conclusion I cited must be accepted as the valid one.
The other strategy that you might employ is to turn around the discussion. Can your brother prove that higher gun ownership raises crime rates? This is really what gun control advocates are arguing, not that crime rates simply cease to drop. While correlation does not necessarily indicate causation, here the substantial amount of available data goes directly contradictory to what he would have to prove.
You can find plenty of info — and links — at johnrlott.blogspot.com.
Dennis Prager said…There are 2 races of people; Good People and Bad(Evil) People.
The Bleeding Crowd vs. The Individual. The Bleeding Crowd is EVIL. The individual man, is GOOD. PC is a Religion and a Pernicious Personality Disorder(Cluster B.) All that IS, ISN’T! All that ISN’T, IS!
Evil people can only excuse Evil. Just opposing an evil person, drives her completely INSANE(further.) Guns are our Fangs, Claws and Spray. You don’t see NON BREEDERS, declawing their kitty cats and tossing them outdoors, over night, do you? Why do they demand that WE be neutered(rhetorical)?
Since the Neo Marxist/Maoist/Stalinist Coup at the 68 Demon-O-Crat Convention, we have given the keys to the INMATES, AND PATIENTS FROM HOMES FOR THE TERMINALLY BILIOUS AND CRIMINALLY INSANE.
Jon Jay Ray of PC Watch, said that all this TALK about what is going on in the world, is POST MODERN CHATTER/CHANTING(ME).
There is no way of getting around it. Leftist, are SUICIDAL, HOMICIDAL, NIHILISTIC, BLOOD THIRSTY, CRAZY PEOPLE.
When I was a kid, I was a carrier for the Cape Cod Standard Times.
Imagine my joy, when I was allowed to post on their forums. Within a week, the format of the forum became, almost like a Letters To The Editor, bunch of Fluff.
Here are two complete strangers, threatening to kill me and PRESCRIBE PSYCH MEDS, for just my BREATHING WHILE SANE(link.)
Evil people attack and murder good people. NOT, the other way around.
On Sep 8, 2009 at 10:35 PM, RavenHair said:
Ohhhhh 4merely a prisoner c’mere boy open up nice n wide Mamma’s got a nice big lead aspirin for ya. Nite Nite Mutha F—a “o)
(NOTE; Raven bragged of having a semi-automatic hand gun…A Desert Eagle. I declined her offer for a “NICE BIG LEAD ASPIRIN.”)
Then another of the Manson Family, chimes in…
66 of 68
Locarb (ElCarbo)
On Sep 9, 2009 at 12:42 AM, Locarb (ElCarbo) said:
Make sure you take Cogentin with your Chlorpromazine to avoid extrapyramidal effects, and don’t forget that phenothiazines can cause neuroleptic malignant hyperthermia. Sweet dreams.
(Note on Locarb/ELCarbo: This is not referring to his diet, rather, he FEELS that he produces less CARBON(a SOLID,) than I. CO2 is a GAS…And, under, DIET…ELCarbo, lists…Anything without a central nervous system.) OOOOOOKAAAAAY…That’s BLEEPING NEUROTIC!
Just as often as not, especially on “Conservative” blogs and forums, I have been banished for life for jousting with their little Cyber Pals. ALL PEOPLE would rather be POPULAR, than do what is RIGHT AND GOOD!
I’m quite lucky to still be posting on PJM. Several of your bloggers won’t even let my comments show, UNDER MODERATION. It’s called, POLITICAL CORRECTNESS RUN AMOK! I’M NOT NICE! I DON’T PULL PUNCHES! I DON’T FEEL THAT EVIL AND GOOD ARE EQUALLY RESPONSIBLE, FOR THE END OF WESTERN CIV.
Well, yeah I do. People on the Right, refuse to even NAME Evil, let alone RESIST HER(Yin)!
If someone is about to mugg, rape, kill you, and they know they’re in a state/province that allows the right to pack heat with proper back ground checks etc… etc…,
what do you think the % chances are of him deciding to attack you or not attack you? Greater % chance? Or Less % chance?
HMMMMMMMMMM??????? Sounds like common sense to those of us with common sense.
But if good sense was common, this wouldnt be discussion now would it.
BAD GUNS DONT KILL PEOPLE, BAD PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE. I HAVE NEVER SEEN A GUN JUMP UP ON ITS HINDE LEGS AND FIRE OFF A COUPLE OF ROUNDS AT SOMEONE……”BAD GUN”…. LOL!
IN THE UK THE STATS OF VIOLENT ACTS HAVE GONE WAY UP WITH STRICTER “LEGAL” GUN POSSESION LAWS. NOW THE PEOPLE WITH BAD HEARTS AND CRIMINAL INTENT JUST USE MORE PIPES AND BATS AND OTHER WEAPONS TO CARRY OUT THEIR MOTIVES.
Ahh, be easy on ‘ol Shef.
His b-o-o h-o-o comment may be due to his being scared/ itimidated of firearms. Let alone those who, God forbid, wish to protect their family and themselves.
Shef, if you feel that way about firemarms, I’ll make you a deal.
Give me your address and I’ll ask your neighbor if they’d allow me to post a billboard in his/her yard pointing out your home as a gun-free house. As well as being an owner who disagrees with the 2nd Amendment. I’m sure you’ll be ‘safe’.
I wish I could remember the city, this example comes from some 20 years ago.
A particular city had just voted to ease gun access laws. The liberals who lost the fight decided to make their displeasure known to the world, and to advertise their firearm purity. They had made up signs advertising their houses as gun free zones.
A couple of months later, those signs had almost all been removed.
Was that Kennesaw, GA?
I have a very vague recollection of the city being in the upper midwest. But that’s all. Sorry.
I do believe you, but I acn’t believe anybody would be so stupid.
But then again, we are talkin’ ’bout libiots!
I have, in my archives, a study entitled “Myths About Gun Control” by Morgan O. Reynolds and W. W. Caruth III for the National Center for Policy Analysis. On page 10, it tells of a New York-based antigun group in the 1960s that printed signs for its members to post on their homes stating “THERE ARE NO GUNS IN THIS HOUSE.”
I don’t have to tell you what the outcome of that was. I do recommend that you look up and read the report, as it packs a lot of information on gun control into a very concise package.
Shef, if a criminal makes themselves visible or attempts to break-in to your home, you may have lost the argument..
Want to read some interesting facts about firearm ownership, crime rates and the myths associated with with them? Go here: http://www.gunfacts.info/
When you cut down through the lies the real essence of the story is this: When the powers that be have a monopoly over your personal security they can manipulate you at will. They don’t have to oppress you, all they need to do is withdraw their protection. You don’t want to pass bond issue for X? We’ll just diminish police patrols in the precincts that voted against it and say that we did it because, alas, money still has to be allocated to X but that means we have to cut down on essential services like police patrols in your neighborhoods. If your wife or daughter gets raped its really the community’s fault because they didn’t vote for bond issue X setting up the Transgender Counseling Service or, whatever.
In heavily armed communities law enforcement officials often find that that much of their duties consist of being an intermediary to morticians. When people are armed and know how to use them the utility of government is diminished, as is the ability of the government to manipulate and coerce the people.
Proponents of the Second Amendment often talk about how it means that the people must have the means, if necessary, to revolt against an oppressive government. I agree with this, but at the same time, I think they have too narrow a focus. Rather, in my opinion, it is the armed citizen who has least need or desire of government at all.
I’ve often been accused of having no reading comprehension skills, whatsoever, but…This is GOOFY, Ty…In heavily armed communities law enforcement officials often find that that much of their duties consist of being an intermediary to morticians.
I grew up near an Air Force base. Kids from all ethnic persuasions and several gays, as well. Virtually ALL of their fathers were hunters, and many APs as well. I cannot remember any OK Corrals happening, sending scores of bodies to Boot Hill. An armed citizen is a FREE citizen.
When I see a man with a holster on his hip, I feel quite a bit safer than if I see a wigger, covered with tats, Bling, piercings, pants half staff to its knees…Although the weight of a 9mm would put its pants on the ground.
AND…bond issue X setting up the Transgender Counseling Service or, whatever. PULEEZE, TY! Pre PC, these people were called, Cross Dressers, Drag Queens and Transvestites. Now, they’ve got their own bathrooms in many places.
It’s called…The Tyranny Of The Weak.
Because The PC are such emotional FEEBS, you FEEL, that just because I disagree with what is done for these Killer Klowns From Outer Space, that I hunt them down and kill them. Au Contraire Mon Fraire. I cannot get away from them fast enough. It’s not a phobia…I just never know what they will do.
Oh yeah…Ty Cobb was one of the most foul excuses for a human being, who ever wore a baseball uniform…Sorry…
Trollscumm,
I think you don’t see the sarcasm in the transgender comment, Tcobb hits the nail right on the head. And I must say states the points excellently. I am a person that calls a spade a spade but you don’t have to do it by calling people names. It shows little if any class, plus they know who they are without the durogatory terms (to a point)
TRUST ME I’M NOT PC I just hate the whole name calling or arguing for the same point just using different verbage. Which is what I think your doing
P.s. Iam not sure a 9 would pull his pants down all the way as they are such a light and wimpy gun.
Lloyd
Lloyd,
Difficult to tell sometimes, when people are being sarcastic or serious. So many people have Pernicious PC, on the Right as well as the Left.
If tcobb is one of US, I will do what NO LIBERAL WILL, BECAUSE SHE CANNOT.
I apologize, tcobb.
Although, the real Ty Cobb was an ambulating dung pile. Ol Ty, beat a man to death with his fists, in a bar scuffle
Lloyd, you are not PC? Name calling? Do you think I named myself, Braindead Trollscum?
I was able to comment on AlterNet for a couple weeks. One of my nics was Lightingman. Look what a demonic cuckoo clock howled at me, a day after I made some comments to some other pimples.
Hippie Love…to me…Lightingman…Eugene Debs sponsered(sic) by the Church of the presumptious(sic) assumption says(squeals shrieks and bellows):
LightningMORON Please PLEASE kill yourself. Do so BEFORE you breed. Our gene pool cant take much more of your level of abject stupidity
LightingMORON, Go FCUK yourself you pathetic braindead trollscum. Just set yourself on fire. You are so stupid you will never be anything but a burden for decent human beings.
the left also argues constantly that economic stress causes crime.
Needless to say, many more people are under economic stress than in 2007. And yet, crime stats drop.
No linkage, just like no linkage to the number of people with guns.
As always, it’s about individuals. “social justice” does not trump actual justice. And having a gun in your pocket or purse does not make you crazy, unless you were crazy to begin with.
Dave,
There is no such thing as Socialist Injustice. It’s better known as MOB RULE.
Society is in the toilet, since Dad and God were fired, in 1968.
Lenin, John and Vlad said…Kill the family, kill the country.
Josef Stalin quotes:
America is like a healthy body and its resistance is threefold: its patriotism, its morality, and its spiritual life. If we can undermine these three areas, America will collapse from within.
And, we have become and evil society, due to Malignant Narcissists with Histrionic and Cluster B Personality disordes.
http://www.narcissisticabuse.com/evil.html Good vs. Evil;
The results of indifference, callousness and carelessness are destructive and malignant. In a talk he gave at the White House, Elie Wiesel, concentration camp survivor and philosopher, says that from anger and hatred we can often make a difference, BUT TO BE INDIFFERENT IS EVIL.(MIDDLE OF THE ROAD.)
Ahh–the incidence of crime is not correlated with social policies or laws. It is correlated with demographics. Its that simple. Most of the people who are criminals fit within a certain age group. When the ratio of the population who falls within that age range goes down so does the incidence of crime. That’s what has been happening people.
No amount of social engineering will change this, although morons exist in profusion who insist that if they could control everything it would…much like if they were in charge the laws of physics could be altered by decree so that a dropped rock would fall up instead of down, or that the value of PI can be changed to 3. Despite the silly little laws, what are you going to do with the rock that falls down instead of up when the powers that be have decreed that it must be otherwise? That is the path of the totalitarian… if you’re not careful it will soon be coming to the nation in which you reside.
Both Lott and Kleck controlled for demographics.
Register left/libtards, not guns. You’ll be safer!
For some good (true) stories of personal firearms used in self defense, see the NRA Armed Citizen column.
Example:
While taking groceries to her car, a man approached an 82-year-old woman and said something horrible to her: “This is your day. You are too old to be alive anyway.” According to police, he then grabbed the woman’s cane and beat her. Despite the savage assault, the elderly woman managed to reach into her purse, draw her gun and fire a shot. The man fled and, upon hearing the shot, store employees quickly came to the woman’s aid. The self-proclaimed “stubborn, old broad” is badly bruised but will fully recover. “If I go naturally or to a sickness or something, fine,” she said. “I’m ready to go, but I’m not ready to let some idiot like that take me out.” (KVOA-TV, Tucson, AZ, 03/15/10)
Evil assaults, attacks and murders us every day. And when we even utter a sound of resistance, she turns on the air raid sirens. And, when she does, we fall all over ourselves to PACIFY HER!
Life begins when Wimmin say so…You gotta problem with that, AXXHOLE?
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Just one swing with one of those beautiful aluminum bats, at about nose level, and I would die a happy man;
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Christian Men, are simply awful to their women;
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Oh, to be young and GAY, and in HATE;
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Shelly The Insufferable Poseur;
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Code Pinko, doing what they do best, BE EVIL;
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Another Leftarded boy for piece;
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Sleep well tonight, the CommUNists are on the job…Somewhere in Afrikey;
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Need a hand, Infidel?
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Femarxist pet;
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Disclaimer: No unicorns, faeries, griffons or gargoyles were harmed in the slightest way, while compiling this gallery of evil.
Each pic was personally passed by Zippie The Libtard.
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And sometimes the truth can be found in cliche’s:
“When seconds count, the police are only minutes away”
and my favorite
“I carry a gun because it is too hard to carry a policeman”
Major crime in not the only decrease in our area. Since so many jobs have been lost the number of illegals has decreased as well. A coincidence? I think not.
PJM People,
I’m not doing this to get a FOLLOWING, OR TO BE LIKED. I don’t GAF if you like me or not.
http://pcwatch.blogspot.com/
Political Correctness/Post Modernism is the antithesis of truth and reality, ergo it is EVIL…A Doppleganger..An ABOMINATION, FREAK OF NATURE!
Postmodernism is in fact just a tantrum. Post-Soviet reality in particular suits Leftists so badly that their response is to deny that reality exists. That they can be so dishonest, however, simply shows how psychopathic they are.
“Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!” – Isaiah 5:20 (KJV)
Juergen Habermas, a veteran leftist German philosopher stunned his admirers not long ago by proclaiming, “Christianity, and nothing else, is the ultimate foundation of liberty, conscience, human rights, and democracy, the benchmarks of Western civilization. To this day, we have no other options [than Christianity]. We continue to nourish ourselves from this source. Everything else is postmodern chatter.”
You’ve been good sports…I will go bug somebody else, now…I NEED you for inspiration… I Am An Excellent Instructor, Coach, Mentor… (Website)
I was summarily jettisoned from the Village Of The Damned, in the Satanic Abbatoir/Divorce Court, in 1992.
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From 1998, till last year at this time, I lived in the 19th Century. Thanx Girls..
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Next to Satan’s son, and granddaughter…
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Yup, that’s POOP!
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Then, my sweetie paid for half of this, and, VOILA! Almost back in the race, again.
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I LIVE IN AMERIKA! AND, I FUCXING HATE IT!
God bless,
BT
The presence of a gun in the right hands can have a profoundly calming effect. Guy who works for me goes to evict tenants from a property we managed. He and the deputy who administers the thing walk in on four crack-heads sitting around a table doing crack. The crack-heads scatter any way they can, one going down the hall toward the bedrooms, deputy close behind and Joe a bit behind him. Deputy does not consider it might actually be five crack-heads and passes a bedroom door without clearing it first. Joe, following the deputy, sees a shotgun barrel come out of the door the deputy passed tracking him down the hall. Joe puts the barrel up against the wall, inserts Glock in ear and peace prevails. Kumbya.
My problem with this article is the implication that because more gun ownership implies lower crime rates, that somehow translates into supporting my right to own a gun. It does no such thing. I don’t care if crime and gun ownership rates skyrocket together, that doesn’t change the second amendment to the constitution.
I have second amendment rights no matter the crime rate or other consequences.
Help….I’m DROWNING!!!!
FACQUE OFF, BT! YOU SHOULD HAVE THOUGHT OF THAT BEFORE YOU WENT SWIMMING, AND DID YOU WAIT A HALF HOUR AFTER YOU ATE? HMMMMM? YOU DESERVE EVERYTHING YOU GET. YOU DON’T PLAY WELL WITH OTHERS, EITHER. JUST EFFING DIE, WILL YOU?
http://www.narcissisticabuse.com/evil.html Good vs. Evil;
The results of indifference, callousness and carelessness are destructive and malignant. In a talk he gave at the White House, Elie Wiesel, concentration camp survivor and philosopher, says that from anger and hatred we can often make a difference, BUT TO BE INDIFFERENT IS EVIL.
Once again we have limited minded people trying to fix problems by creating more problems. If we really want to slow down gun crimes we do not do this by passing more gun laws. Making it harder for honest people to get them is not the answer. We do this by punishing criminals that use guns. Example. You use a gun to rob, rape, kidnap,etc. even if you do not pull the trigger its an automatic 50 years in prison. If death happens because of the crime its life in prison or the death penalty. Problem solved. If this seems harsh then you have never had a gun pointed at you. I legally own and use guns and would love this to be law.
As a Jewess in the US, I ask: WHAT is Hussein Obama HIDING? Doesn’t matter! TOO LATE NOW! There are now some constitutional/legislative “theologians” who say that even IF the DemocRAT votes COULD be found to impeach him, that Obama is legally UNIMPEACHABLE, if in fact he is not a natural-born American. They say that, because then he would never have been eligible to hold the office in the first place, and so is NOT the President, and thus CANNOT be impeached! The Articles simply would NOT APPLY to him, any more than they would to you or me. Meanwhile, he occupies the White House, sitting around smoking cigars, drinking Crown Royal, and flitting about on Air Force One. If true, HOW would he be removed from the White House? Perhaps via an ordinary EVICTION process? Don’t let the media bury this story! By the way, all REAL Americans put our 2nd Amendment FIRST!
Wendy, Good Lord, do not even allude to the I word. Look what happened to Bypass Priapic Bilious Clingon, with his little thing.
The Demon-O-Crats FEEL that Watergate and IRANCONTRAHALLIBURTON, were worse than 911.
You start tossing around the I word and I guarandamntee, that there will be a federal program from the STIMULATOR, to go 3 shifts, non stop for the next 5-7 years to manufacture guillotines and crucifixes.
A couple of colosseums for good measure. Shhhhhhhh! BE NICE!
one other point to make is when you choose to arm yourself you are taking PERSONNAL RESPONSIBILITY for your safety. libs can’t stand it
on a more disturbing issue:hunter safety courses have had to remove the firing pins from the firearms they use in class because libs have infiltrated and slipped live rounds into the guns in hopes of an accident.
Macko and friends,
Libs aren’t Pussyfists, because they think violence is ICKY. They are actually incapable of siding with good. 911 wasn’t a result of anger and violence…OUR FAULT! When a marriage dissolves, THE KIDS ALWAYS BLAME THEMSELVES. Adult Flower/Mulch Children BLAME US!
The Eco Weenies, didn’t utter a wimper when Saddam torched 700 Kuwaiti oil wells…BUSH’S FAULT! Iraq had something like 3 times the conventional firearms that we have in the USA. ZZZZZZZZZZZzzzz.
Libs ALWAYS SIDE WITH THE BAD GUYS, A-L-W-A-Y-S! There is more concern for the mopes at Gitmo, than there was for the Little Eichmans from 911.
There is not one Lib alive, who isn’t a mirror kissing DRAMA QUEEN.
Take Little Kurtsie Slimewa, PLEASE! SELF INFLICTED HATE CRIME.
Virtually EVERYTHING THE LEFT IS TERRIFIED IS DEFINED BY THEM AND BLAMED ON US. TRANS FAT, CIGARETTES, REAL ENGINES, TESTOSTERONE POISONING…
http://www.therightperspective.org/2009/06/01/sliwa-committed-self-inflicted-hate-crime/
Sliwa Committed Self-Inflicted “Hate Crime”
Guardian Angels founder Curtis Sliwa lived up to his moniker of Degenerate Liar after admitting he once scrawled the letters “KKK” in a self-inflicted “hate crime” to get attention and sympathy.
The confession came out during sworn testimony at the 2006 trial for alleged Gambino crime family leader John Gotti, Jr.
Under oath, Sliwa told cross-examiner Charles Carnesi, the lawyer for Mr. Gotti, that he spray painted the moniker of the Klu Klux Klan on the wall of his apartment because he was about to be evicted.
Sliwa told the court it was one of many examples he has used over the years to get attention, publicity and sympathy from the public to further himself.
Sliwa called the staged events “the dumbest thing I ever did in my life.”
Leftists and Jihadists COMMIT SUICIDE FOR DIFFERENT REASONS. But, they are the same, sick animal.
A week after 911, Don Feder of the Boston Herald, NAILED IT! END OF CONVERSATION! WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT?
TODAY’S LEFTISTS ARE SUICIDAL, HOMICIDAL, PATRICIDAL, KINDERCIDAL, NIHILISTIC, NARCISSISTIC, GODLESS, SELF LOATHING LUNATICS…ON THEIR BEST DAY!
I know that Mark The Omnipotent doesn’t like my long comments. If you get this far, PLEASE read the last short paragraph.
To hell with GUNS! We cannot even allude to a Leftist or Jihadist, being a naughty person.
http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/feder092001.asp
America’s Home-Grown(organic(me) Suicide Cult..
On the left, hatred of America is so ingrained that with thousands of Americans buried beneath tons of rubble, liberals’ gut reaction is to censure our society for the alleged sins of multinationals and not having a foreign policy shaped by Ralph Nader. Blame Israel Second — Fisk tells us none of this would have happened if not for “the 34 years of Israel’s brutal occupation of Arab land.” How can a nation “occupy” its own territory? There has never been a sovereign state on the West Bank.
As Israel must be condemned, the Palestinians must be absolved. Fisk claims that Palestinian celebration of the New York death toll is “a symbol of their despair, as well as a sign of their political immaturity.” No, it’s a sign of the celebrants’ utter depravity. Give these swine their own state, and, in no time at all, we’ll have another Afghanistan on our hands.
A nation that will not fight back in the face of evil seals its fate. Those who twist logic to find excuses for terrorists or their supporters have lost a survival instinct. Liberalism, as it’s mutated since the end of World War II, is a cult that preaches national suicide.
Re the original thread: People do not touch hot stove eyes for the simple reason of sure and certain painful repercussions.
The prosecution of our laws are NOT so sure and certain.
If a person commits a crime, there is a VERY good chance that she/he will NOT be identified as the culprit.
Should the person BE identified, there is a VERY good chance they will NOT be arrested.
If the person IS arrested, there is a VERY good chance they will NOT be charged.
The above sequences are empirical, all the way through the steps of being tried, convicted, and serving a just sentence and of paying reparations to both the victim and the society they have abused, the sanctions being SO elusive as to be non-existent, and therefore provide NO deterrent to the twisted, many-times-profiled demographic responsible for the majority of crime in our country.
Should, in the commision of the crime, the miscreant encounter someone with a gun who isn’t afraid to use it, ALL aspects of sanctions are applied and enforced, save paying reparations, and frankly, seeing someone who intended harm to the victim bleed out, would certainly have value, at least to the victim.
Win, were you OJ’s original DREAM TEAM? That little soliloquy was BRILLIANT! And, I’m sure there WAS a point in it, but DAMNED if I could find it. <8-]
Good comments WinWon.
and to extrapolate further:
..and if they are charged,might not be convicted
..and if convicted,not properly sentenced
..and if not properly sentenced,not serve appropriate time
..and if time is not fully served..guess what
..they’re back on the street again.Xman
Sorry, X…You seemed to dig what Win be puttin down. Extrapolate a little more for me, will you? I’m mental, and it seems, retaaaaaded as well.
(weapons grade sarcasm)
This web of relationships obviously extends much farther – I would wager that the issue falls in line with more prominent and over-arching culture and lifestyle choices – those who are more willing to go through legal channels to purchase a gun are less likely to commit a crime – they are simply more responsible people, and better members of society; the opposite is also true
Liberal Wimmin and Men(sic)…When you ask them a question about why they DON’T like something(EVERYTHING) Their sniffing, sneering answer goes like this…Ohhhhh, but…I used to live in Texas and George W. Bush SCAAAAAARRRRRREEEESSSSSS MEEEEEEE! GUNS…TERRIFY ME! How many times have you heard this?
From Newsmax(LINK,) this am. HAIRLESS REID IS SCARED OF THE BIG BAD WEPUBWICANS.
1. Harry Reid: All GOP Rivals ‘Scare Me’
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid dismissed talk that he would prefer to run against tea party Republican Sharron Angle in November, saying all the top GOP contenders could pose a threat.
Angle, a former state assemblywoman who has been endorsed by the Tea Party Express, squares off in the June 8 primary against former state GOP Chairwoman Sue Lowden and businessman Danny Tarkanian.
“I have no control over who’s going to be in the general election,” Reid said at a Memorial Day event in Boulder City, Nev.
“They all scare me.”
From that schlockey Patty Duke Show’s theme song, years ago…But they’re cousins…identical cousins, and you’ll find…The Ballet Russe…A HOTDOG MAKES HER LOSE CONTROL(of her bowels)…(sometimes having an almost photographic memory sucks, but NOT today!)
My points to (you know), were…People today seem to just love rambling on and on and on and on and on with no point to their seemingly endless system dumps(mainframe computers…3 boxes of Greenbar Gobbledegook.)
A hero to the Left is Gnome Chimpsky. WHAT AN EFFING CUCKOO CLOCK!
http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/n/noam_chomsky.html
Colorless green ideas sleep furiously. (GROAN.)
Everybody’s worried about stopping terrorism. Well, there’s a really easy way: stop participating in it. (Sorry Gnome, whyn’t you SUE the families of the Little Eichmans, for ENRAGING the pooer li’l Mooslimes?)
If the Nuremberg laws were applied, then every post-war American president would have been hanged. (If Amerika lasts another 1000 years(right) Psycho-Lib-Weenies are still going to be a hatin HITLER!)
And, finally…Propaganda is to a democracy what the bludgeon is to a totalitarian state.
This evil phuc FEELS that people on the right are the sloganeers and propagandists, and he remains an ICON to the Left.
Guys, I’m heading for the Mulch/Flower Child Cathedral…Repsychoing Center DUMP.
I SCARE the livin BEJEEPERS out of THEM. What a hoot. I REFUSE to recycle. It’s a FUCXING RELIGION!
In Euro, Neo Stasi, go through the Euro Trash’s Euro Trash. If they find that they’ve thrown out the little plastic window in an envelope, the enemies of the state are impaled for 60 days, then strapped in an electric chair on L, for 60 more.
That’s funny, guys…MAXWELL HOUSE COFFEE, ROCKS!
I’ll beg off, after this. I’d seen this on a TV show once, and came upon it in a Christian publication a month ago.
Here’s where we ARE, RIGHT BLEEPING NOW!
Two bumper stinkers today…My 3 year old is smarter than Sarah Palin.
(picture of an SUV)= Small Penis…SATANIC CHILDREN ARE AT WAR WITH US! Keep rapping with THEM!
From a Christian publication…For example, a state agency called the NKVD was watching those applauding that day to see who might be secretly opposing Josef and His IDEAL SOCIETY. The first ones to cease applauding and sit down were identified as INDEPENDENT THINKERS, a danger to the STATE. Many went to prison, some were executed. All in the name of a PERFECT SOCIETY(UTOPIA) that would eliminate PAIN AND SUFFERING.(BY KILLING US, WHO DON’T WISH TO BE PART OF THE HERD/SWARM OR WHO’VE BEEN SUMMARILY BOOTED OUT ALREADY.)
OF SAVAGES. STREWN AROUND TO FEED THE GULLS AND FERAL DOGS.
The Comrade Springstein guy in this, is MAGNIFIQUE!
http://www.road90.com/watch.php?id=wlEj8cMCnu
TROLL ALERT! FUNDY, ON CAMPUS! BUY-BULL THUMPER! RUN AWAY!
Post Modernism, is PC, is sitting at one’s computer complaining about TROLLS and Fundies and Buy-Bull Thumpers, as EVIL overtakes the earth.
Here’s your CommUNists on the job in Somalia, playing 1-2-3 with a little brown child, who doesn’t look like me, or the 2 Dutch boys, for that matter.
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I’m an attention whore, spammer, homophobe, misogynist, Nazi, bla bla..
Gertrude M. Washington caught the eye of my high nurse travelled contract paid in full after 2 years from year 1998/99 working as a top of my career in nursing.Employed as a travelled nursing under the contract of RX.The dropped in the mailbox of my mother,Johnnie Forrest with her acceptance of the mail coming there while away.Gertrude who spent 44 years on Chicagp public aid program with section 8 at 10 E. Ontario Drive of Ontario Place with both of her sons,Marcus Navon and Marcel Washington with doing his teens in Illinois Correctional for violation to women and theft of their personal possessions on southside of Chicago.She here violated my travelled nursing contracts paid in full.This sealed enveloped in the mailbox from the mail carrier.She took it and opened the sealed.Never reached me after I serve in the country this crucial high need for nurses.I was paid mileage check between States from Taft,California to the next State at the top of Country.She really hurt when she actually took false identification and cashed this huge digits of a payment all in my name,Emma Washington.The phrase is you take my book of food stamps with public aid caseworker while she interchange with my paid in full completion of contracts just by opening your mail before picking it up.She has a chunk of my earned income,bonus, and 2 millions benefits I did not used in order to get the entire amount with no absences.The criminal son,Marcel Washington was given already my account of 6 digits prior to her ever knowing about my travelled nurse contracts with nurse insured payment.The other was given in 8 digits to her unknown peer adults not known by me violating my c ommunity by webcycle and violation of privacy device made by her criminal sexual predator painted personality son,Marcel with male minors of her adult son.She caused me a final notice by the rental office at 9601 Ashton Rd D-2,Philadelphia 19114,after she assumed my identity on a new rental hired and was given the key to my bilevel apartment.Gertrude who said she was Emma went into the file box took my Harrisburg State letter sealed and other like nursing pin,account of bank was violated by her party,with other stolen items. She is 490 monthly on public aid.You don’t office worker,Tammy, expect if known to expect 20 million taken from her,G.McClinton, for friendship as she called it.She is also Gertrude Washington.I voiced message that this is not her money she given you.Its my travelled nurse completion contract paid in full you took.YOu have no idea,but she is fraud and a 44 year Chicago public aid person who never worked in her life.5 days left to be put out. Wrong.
when did these things take place?