Prove that. I don’t think you can.

This is fascist thinking and bigoted. Poor people don’t deserve to be treated as children. They are adults and they have freewill. Where do you get off telling total strangers what to eat? Elitist garbage.

Tell me, do you think that Homosexual adults should have their lifestyles regulated because of the high medical costs of AIDS/HIV?

I find it not a little bit discouraging – what am I saying…!? lately this has begun to border on terrifying – that so few libertarian and conservative Americans seem to comprehend the simple outcome you’ve concisely described. Because if they do, they’re not putting much effort into making the point.

I also find it amazing that so few capitalists understand how comprehensive health care insurance has driven the cost of most day-to-day health care to a level where almost no one thinks they can afford it without insurance any more. This notion that health care is not even possible without insurance is taken so completely for granted that it seems no longer even possible for the public – let alone anyone in government – to think outside that box: health care and the insurance that pays for it are one-and-the-same in the minds of most Americans. This is possibly the greatest marketing success in U.S. history, since it is hardly the truth.

Pro-business folks who on other topics usually make perfect sense (yes, like you Glenn) have lost sight of reality on this particular issue I’m afraid. That selective blindness facilitates an outcome (i.e., skyrocketing health care costs) that plays right into the hands of the socialists’ strong suit (i.e., their ability to side-step logic and reason, and manipulate the voting masses at an emotional level).

Health care insurance companies and the relentless price increases they promote are causing irreparable damage to our economy. Direct-to-consumer marketing of prescription medications has driven the demand for those drugs way, way beyond the actual need for those drugs. These things are only possible because consumers are barred from closing the loop on price – both for health care goods and services AND the cost of the insurance they think they have to have to pay for them.

“Progressive” elites want control of health care insurance for two reasons: it gives them control over the trillions of dollars that would flow through such a system; it provides an unprecedented degree of control over those insured by the system and will ultimately provide a similarly unprecedented degree of control over health care providers (something THEY obviously haven’t yet realized either).

At its core, the government’s attraction to any socialist medical welfare system is no different than the attraction to the “carbon credits” scam run by the U.N. or the “cap-and-trade” scam Obama wants to foist onto American businesses.

Always. Follow. The. Money.

Government is not the solution to our problems. Government is the problem.

— Out of the mouths of babes. This precise sentiment is the breaking point of liberty. When the government takes over health care then it has taken the right to tell you how to care of yourself; what meds to take (psychological as well), what food to eat, how and when to exercise, etc… This, perhaps more then any other reason, is why universal health care is specifically a bad idea and suggests yet again how it is that socialist programs are illiberal.

Pure horse manure.

Romney’s passage of the MA Health Care is Now an Entitlement Act, which he claimed to have done grudgingly IIRC (big deal), is by no stretch leadership on reforming health care. Absolutely the opposite.

A statutory obligation to purchase health care insurance does nothing to reform health care. The two are not the same.

Comprehensive health care insurance has been driving prices of health care higher at rates far exceeding inflation for over 30 years now. The ONLY way health care is ever going to be affordable again – as it was back when people used to pay out-of-pocket for all but the most serious health issues – is through legislation eliminating the comprehensive health care insurance scam in the U.S., and barring direct-to-consumer advertising of prescription medications (which inflates the demand far beyond the actual need). Over a transition period, commodity economics will drive the costs of quotidian care back in line with other goods and services, and catastrophic insurance plans can be administered via the same authority to which you (or your landlord) pay property taxes, leveraging huge actuarial group sizes.

This idiotic notion that our only option is to hand a corrupt system over to a government that NO ONE trusts to do anything else right – just so that it can be corrupted further and concentrate trillions of dollars into the hands of a few – is pure insanity, not “leadership”.