Fast and Furious Demonstrates ‘Ruling Class,’ Country Divide
Of course, 90% of what the president said in defense of Holder consisted of fluff or falsehoods — there’s tangible evidence that Holder knew about Fast and Furious at least as early as July 2010. Yet that doesn’t matter to Obama. What matters is defending the other members of the ruling class, of which Holder is one (for the time being).
Consider the words of Arizona Sheriff Paul Babeu of Pinal County. He is not a member of the ruling class, and looks upon Holder and the rest of those involved in Fast and Furious with rationality:
It is insanity that they [ATF/DOJ] could try and rationalize this and still withhold and try to cover up information that implicates them.
He went on to say that those who were involved should “absolutely” be labeled and charged as accomplices to the murders associated with the operation.
The members of the ruling class feel themselves sufficiently insulated from the physical dangers of Fast and Furious, and they are quick to provide alibis to spare themselves political danger as well. On the other hand, those charged with the duty of living in the real world and facing the threat of being shot with a gun that Attorney General Eric Holder, U.S. Attorney Dennis Burke, or the ATF’s William Newell knew about aren’t easily appeased with the excuses and contradictions that characterize the good ol’ boys club on this one.
Fast and Furious demonstrates a chasm between the ruling class and the people. And the quickest way to bridge that chasm is to follow Sheriff Babeu’s recommendation and start filing charges.
Codevilla’s book was an epiphany for me. F&F is a major felony that may never be punished. Our next election should decide this.
Yes, Codevilla said a lot of profound things. The way in which he remains relatively unknown while frauds such as Cornel West are all over television is more evidence of how we are no longer a meritocracy.
During the 1990′s and 2000′s I kept noticing how so many incompetent and mendacious people would rise to very high positions in my profession, and in other areas of academia. And I was alarmed at how more and more people within our supposedly elite classes showed show such extreme disdain for “regular people” and for the Founding ideas. I’ve been around a lot of metro, academic types the last several years, and believe me, many of them are amongst the most bigoted people on earth, especially towards people of Codevilla’s “Country Class.” Some of this could be explained by our fallen world, the Peter Principle, the ravages of the Sixties, etc., but there seemed to be something else at work too–some sort of framework already in place to help Political Correctness spread like wildfire, not only on the East and West Coasts but in the urban parts of “flyover country.” When I read Codevilla, he explained all this in such a coherent, evidence-based way. I hope that he keeps up the good work.
I don’t believe it’s really anything new. I think it’s been going on as long as man has been around.
And here’s another “earth-shaking” revelation: They run many a corporation. No, I’m not siding with the pathetic OWS losers. But I do recognize incompetence when I see it, especially when certain “managers” and supposed “leaders” in companies run for cover when asked the difficult questions or are charged with a particular duty and they ignore it and get away with it.
The company I work for right now does this.
Yet I’m not so naive to believe that by clamping down on a CEO or high-level executive is going to change my lot in life and still, the company I work for is profitable, so the shareholders are happy, I should think.
But this cronyism, social-circle melange has always disgusted me, especially when people who seem to enjoy each other’s company in a social setting admit they despise one-another when in private. It’s always been my contention to ask inside of my own mind, “Then, why the act?”.
Again, I think the basic answer is simply–fear. Fear of what others will think, or say, or do. Although at times this is appropriate, I think people in general are still more concerned with “looking good” than actually doing good or even doing the right thing.
Then there’s the question of arrogance. When a particular set of managers or one in particular get it in their head that employee X is a bad apple and then gang up to eliminate him, only to find that every time they try it, they are told by the legal beagles to leave them alone and they’re making themselves look stupid, one has to wonder why they continue to try. Is it ego at that point? Or is it elitism? Some sort of “class identity”? What?
Then, of course, say in Obama’s situation where it became very clear as to his petulance and arrogance when, within weeks of the election he said to McCain, “I won”. Those two words spoke volumes, to say the least. He was saying that “I’m king-turd now…I can do what I want and y’all have to shut up and do what I way.” Which is how he probably views the presidency, as do many people. It’s not only an incorrect perception of the duty of chief executive of this nation, but it is a monumental disservice to the people.
I could go on and on but everyone here already knows. But in the end it comes down to this: Both left and right DO suffer from something that I find most annoying; That being the desire to find a leader they can follow. I don’t like “following” anyone and although I’m not trying to split hairs here, I don’t get in line behind others. I know leadership and can recognize it and offer my loyalty to one but very carefully.
I do not blindly follow anyone and always have something I disagree with them on. I think it is my right to do so. But too many people in assigned positions of leadership misconstrue disagreement as disloyalty. One, there wasn’t any loyalty there to begin with so there can’t be any dis-loyalty. Two, just because I disagree with you doesn’t mean I’m trying to undermine your “kingdom”.
But the other side of that coin then comes down to petulance and a desire to “show” me something; That they’re the boss and that I’m just a drone.
What’s funny is that no reminder need be served. I’m a drone and I’m happy in my “drone-ness”. I do my job and go home. I do not think about the company I work for when I leave. Nor do I ever intend to be anything more than a drone. I could…but I’ve done that and I hate it. But I can still tell when it’s being done badly.
I guess the point is: That elitism is, was and always will be crap. The driving force behind elitism is fear that its members won’t be looked upon with worshipful awe. I have never been in awe of any one person. Impressed, sure. Inspired, absolutely. But awed? Never. And never will be. Sure, I have heroes but only in the aforementioned context; I would never get on my knees and worship the ground they walk on. I think people need to be a little more satisfied with what they, themselves have and are and stop trying to plant false prophets and idols in front of them.
When one is raised by others to a position of being elite, that’s one thing. When one raises themselves to that position, it’s just egoism.
I have been pondering that Obama would pardon Holder, the Shrillary would pardon Obama when she takes over. However, there is a thread that looks like Shrillary could be more involved than previously thought/proved.
http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2011/10/sipsey-street-exclusive-in-at-beginning_07.html
I have been pondering that Obama would pardon Holder, then Shrillary would pardon Obama when she takes over. However, there is a thread that looks like Shrillary could be more involved than previously thought/proved.
http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2011/10/sipsey-street-exclusive-in-at-beginning_07.html
You make some good points SG-1. Some of this harmful elitism is due to fallen human nature. And as Abe Lincoln said, “you can fool some of the people all of the time…,” etc.
But I’m convinced that for a while now we’ve also been confronted by a different sort of elitism in this country and other western countries which has steadily eroded our freedoms, and which Codevilla does a good job of describing. This newer form of elitism is not based on the fighting prowess of a knight, or descent from a king or noble like the old aristocracies, or having a lot of money, or being the boss. It does have something in common with the rule of the schoolyard bully, but with more of a smarty-pants, “I’m-smarter-than-you-are” sort of bully running the show.
I guess it started taking off especially in the later 1800′s, with the loss of religious faith combined with some German notions of expert superiority, in which the experts were supposed to be entitled to run our lives. Maybe this would be described as Technocracy? Then, as Codevilla describes, Progressives such as Woodrow Wilson and FDR institutionalized this kind of elitism in our government with a vengeance, and academics started getting involved in a big way. Codevilla also talks about how, ironically, incompetence has oftentimes been rewarded in this new elitism, even though we supposedly are seeing the experts in action.
Well, the experts are obviously wrong much of the time. We can see that especially in American government and academia since the 1930′s. And policies like Affirmative Action slide people into positions for which they are not qualified. Yet we’re still stuck with a lot of people in this country who think that experts or “the educated” should have more influence than us regular drones. Most of our media think that way, and sadly a lot of gullible Americans have bought into it. Its a long, long way from being ruled by those names in Bill Buckley’s phone book, which was much closer to the Founders’ ideas.
I submit again that it’s always been there, in one form or another. Arrogance, no matter what form it takes, is still arrogance. And Hollywood, so adept at describing it and yet they cannot see it in real life. It’s a “disconnect” I cannot fathom.
From the early days of recorded history to today, every society in every generation from every nation has had its example of elitism. But I’m reminded of a phrase, that I’m sure I’ll get wrong and I cannot recall the source but it’s something to the effect of, “As regards nobility. A man who lives a clean and righteous life and does not steal or lie, is faithful and treats others fairly, is nobility enough”
Elitism is the illegitimate bastard of nobility. It is saying that “John Kennedy, Jr is a great man because his father was a great man”. And there are a number of things wrong with that whole sentence, not the least of which is assuming JFK, Sr, was a “great man”. Some say what made him “great” was that he got shot. Any GI will tell you that’s not a way to become great.
It’s an odd thing that people do when they raise to sainthood a person who has been murdered. Perhaps it’s due to the guilt many of us feel at a life snuffed out. But in many ways, I liken it to the roadside memorials that seem to have become rife in our society since the 1980′s. You know, the constant flowers and such at a spot where someone was killed in an auto accident. Though I am no callous to the loss, I have been accused of such for expressing my distaste for such things. Memorials are fine, but context is just as important.
But, back to elitism, people crave ways to be better than others. Even if it’s just perceived. If average citizen confronted Pelosi with simple questions like, “Why do you think that unemployment stimulates the economy?” and then ask another question that is critical of her answer, she would be mortified and look at average citizen with razor-eyes. “How DARE you question my character!” would be the phrase she’d want to utter. But they know the media love them so they get thrown softball questions and can prance around thinking they just attended a “brutal” question & answer session.
Perception. Maybe it goes back to our ability to have a free society and that advertising has proven effective on the purchasing masses. Instant gratification, getting it now and never having to wait.
Those three things outline the problem in society today that were less easily accomplished even decades ago. In the land-of-plenty, if you have the wherewithal to get it, you can. But as evidenced by the Occupy-people, they want it all NOW..and are finding that it doesn’t work like that, perhaps for the first time in their lives. And they don’t like it and are bitching about it. Thus, they complain…they want free everything. They really DON’T know who paid for their educations, their room & board, their econo-box transportation while in school. If they do and they are on the economy, working…as some seem to be, they have met reality and found that their BS degree in “social planning” or “nature studies” isn’t worth the paper it’s printed on and they’re angry. They’ve been lied to for over 22 years. And the longer that lie takes to see the light of day, the worse the enlightenment is.
So, perhaps someday, Obama may see how he’s been lied to. It’s doubtful but it will produce one hell of an out-and-out rage.
We have the First Commandment for a reason. Present-day idols aren’t named Baal any more, but they are false gods nonetheless. Narcissists find ways to get themselves placed on pedestals where they never deserve to be. It’s time the rest of learned to watch out for that.
The categories of people you describe are familiar to me too. I have heard such imbeciles describe the Clintons and Obama as “brilliant,” for instance. They are pathetic, mid-level wannabes, and incompetent to boot.
I stopped reading at this sentence, “They don’t want to do anything that might undermine the ruling class and usher in a changing of the guard.” That sums it up nicely. However, they have to face the fact that there WILL be a changing of the guard in 2012 and also that they have no power to stop that from happening.
The “appearance of power” is more important than actual power to the elites; it’s a very deceptive and double-minded way to live. Therefore it will be a great healing for them when they find out that they not only have NO appearance of power; but NO actual power either.
The therapists are going to be busy beginning in 2012 !!!! Heh!!
There are those who think that Zero’s defeat in 2012 is inevitable. This is dangerous. The polls show a dead heat between the front runner Republican and Zero. There are enough uninformed people out there who could prevent sanity from prevailing. The MSM is not going to inform these people, so we must. In addition to throwing AMENS to the church choir, we should be coping and pasting some of these articles to e-mails to our contacts. We can use the multiplier of the internet to educate people. Do not wake up the morning after the election with the thought, “if only I had done more”
Agreed 100%. That is why I pass news like this to several people every chance I get. Will it work ….who knows. But it is all we have.
I have eliminated contact with the few arrogant loose lefty type “friends” I used to have. It is a mistake to believe their minds can be changed. The ideology and utopian dream prevail in their minds and even though they seem to live in a real world, they ignore how it got there.
I think it’s a waste of time trying to campaign for the obvious. Because it’s only obvious to those who have the tools and experience to understand it.
The other side likes being the other side, in other words and they revel in being contradictory to good sense, logic and true wisdom. They like the big plastic shiny and don’t care when it breaks right out of the box. They’ll get another one that’s just like it anyway. It never sinks in. They don’t get it and never will.
And if Romney is elected, who’s to say that he will have an administration that will prosecute those reponsible? I would bet that he won’t.
One thing that the party bluebloods will never comprehend is just how intensely the rest of us despise them. Our fury against RINOs such as Romney knows no bounds. If the election were to come down to Romney vs. Obama, we would emigrate forthwith.
I have been working on getting rid of Obama since the day he was elected.
The last of my Demo friends to “get it”, just pulled their money out of the market and decided not to get back in until Obama is gone. Not if, when he is gone!
Such a crazy and senseless tragedy for people to die. It seems like pure madness.
It is best for the people involved to ‘man up’ and accept the responsibility and consquences for their actions.
To stand aloof and silent in a matter such as this, implies consent and will be judged as such.
And from experience, I know that it is better to accept your dues in the here and now, than to wait for later. Because here, it a easier place to get it over with and, at least the death penalty has an end date.
“Man up”?
Remember, you are talking about people whose entire philosophy can be summed up as, “I am always right, my plans are always perfect, and if things go wrong, it’s always somebody else’s fault.”
The difference this time around is that it’s virtually impossible for the “best and brightest” to blame their usual scapegoats, i.e. reactionaries and/or the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy. Neither of which has any significant representation in either the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (probably the most pristinely “progressive” Federal agency outside of the Environmental Protection Agency), Holder’s staff, or Obama’s White House. (You may have noticed that anyone remotely in favor of the Second Amendment isn’t on their payroll or party guest-lists.)
Which also explains why the MSM is going into a spin cycle worthy of a Maytag as they desperately try to ignore what amounts to an act of war against a supposedly friendly neighbor. As Debbie Wassermann-Schultz said of the present-day economy, Obama “owns” this mess; nobody else. He boasted of his dislike of “bitter clingers”, and that he was “working on gun control under the radar”- and this was the result.
Even his knee-jerk attempt to yell “BOOOOSSHHH!!” (“Operation Wide Receiver”) fell flat, in spite of the New York Times and all the other “usual suspects” putting their shoulders behind the wheel.
Which means that right now the Obama team are forced to take responsibility for what was either a deliberate effort to increase violence in a foreign country as propaganda for suborning the Bill of Rights- or else an equally deliberate attempt to destabilize a friendly government for even more cynical (not to say delusional) ends.
Their choice now is simple. Since they cannot blame their hated enemies, those never-to-be-sufficently-damned “gun nuts” and “reactionaries” for this exercise in Ruritanian-level “statesmanship”, they can either admit that;
1. They believe that their ends justify their means, and that human life (other than their own) is meaningless to them in pursuit of their supposedly laudable goals; or
2. They are simply insane. I’m talking giggling, gibbering, making-up-nonsense-words-and-insisting-that-the-Moon-is-made-of-Key-Lime-Pie-level N.U.T.S.
Neither one is likely to go over big with the House. Or the American people.
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Holder has been involved in some very seedy affairs in his career. He is alleged to have been the bagman for the Marc Rich pardon, and more recently he appears to be on an all out crime spree. Will any of the GOP debaters please start talking about it?
Will the next administration have the courage to prosecute to the fullest extent of the law.
Rhetorical question I suppose, because the answer is NOPE!
The MainSlime Media vets and harasses even RINOs who are in direct opposition to any of the Socialists who have infested our government yet, they shamelessly ignore the Comrades themselves. If the RINOs are pushing some manifesto approved idiocy, the MSM aids and comforts them with silence or even protection as well.
We’ve been talking about this ever since they refused to vet Obama but, they show no sign of relenting or even slowing their treasonous agenda. So, what are we going to do about it!?
The Ruling Class are a disgusting lot and always have been. I spent my undergraduate years at a Ruling Class University in the East and nearly fifty years later, this young boy from flyover country still has a gag response to the arrogance of Ruling Class bu!!sh#t.
Yes. I now understand the French Revolution. OK they went too far. But I no longer blame them. The rotten gangrenous filth ran deep and amputation was necessary.
Arriving at college in September ’67 is still seared in my mind. The South had a rigid caste system still in those days, but I thought I understood it and while not at the top of it in my small country town, I could at least see it from where I stood. I had a fancy SAT score and that was it. I had no legacy and lacked the money, clothes, cars, and, frankly, the specialized social skills necessary to be considered human. I suspect that is what happed to anyone who attended the Ivies or any elite school as well as the State university main campuses around the Country, though I think The South was worst other than perhaps the Ivies. But that was an old-fashioned classism that has been with us for all of human history.
What we have now is something different. Since the ’60s there has been an intense drive to credentials. Part of it was in response to discrimination claims that made testing impractical and very, very expensive, part of it is, I believe, something more conspiratorial. The left, and by left I mean the very hard fellow travelling if not card-carrying left, has owned the universities since the ’30s. Requiring college degrees for everything above clerk and janitor meant that everyone had to be funnelled through the ideological indoctrination centers controlled by the left. People attribute a lot of it to ‘Boomers that stayed in for a PhD to stay out of the draft, but I’m an early ‘Boomer, b. ’49, and even in small state schools in Georgia most of my professors in the humanities ranged from very liberal to outright open marxists.
With the dumbing down of college educations, you can easily graduate from college and remain a functional illiterate, especially one can be completely ignorant of US history, culture, traditions, and laws, but one is thoroughly indoctrinated into the touchy-feely, multi-culti view of the university. With the over-credentialing now rampant in government and large businesses, it doesn’t matter what the job is, so long as the MQ is a degree, any degree, the entire applicant pool will lean left. I find myself becoming that epithet that the lefties love to hurl at the right; I am an anti-intellectual! They’ve made leftist and intellectual into synonyms. They’ve made leftist and educated into synonyms. They’ve made leftist and intelligent into synonyms. And they all get together and tell each other how smart they are and how they should rule over the troglodytes. I’m ready to tear down the universities and put the professors to work bringing in the harvests.
That may happen, though by market forces rather than violence. The college tuition bubble is already bursting.
Of course, Holder, et al, are all counting on 0 exercising his pardon privilege.
That won’t get them out of the woods on potential state/local charges, but it will keep them out of a Federal pen. On the other hand, and someone out there correct me, please, if I am wrong, I can’t think of a single instance of someone who received a Presidential pardon being charged subsequently in a state or local court for the same crime or something directly associated with it.
At some point, the strategy will fail as it has in the past. Then things will be far far worse than had they come to grips early. It is going to be fun but not pretty.
They funneled the guns to mexican terrorists for the sole purpose of augmenting their furtherance of gun control here in the USA.
They knew people would die. They hoped they would. So as to make bigger headlines.
These are the people Orwell told us about. We are living 1984.
We’ve been warned of these people since the ink of first Bible was wet…
Why dont we listen?
STRANGE, VERY STRANGE.
PRESIDENT OBAMA KNEW, ONE YEAR BEFORE THE KILLING, WHERE OSSAMA BIN LADEN WAS HANGING OUT.
NOW WE KNOW THAT: “the DHS, IRS, DEA, ATF, ICE, and the Obama Justice Department” are all named under oath as being tied to Fast and Furious in one way or another.
AND THE WHITE HOUSE DOES NOT KNOW?
IS NO ONE RESPONSIBLE FOR KNOWINGLY SELLING WEAPONS TO MASS MURDERERS?
WHILE THE LEGITIMATE GOVERNMENT OF MEXICO IS FIGHTING A WAR, AGAINST THESE SAME, MASS MURDERERS?
TELL ME SOMETHING ARE WE THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES, PARTNERS WITH THE MEXICAN ” MURDER & COMPANY “.
SOMEWHERE HIGHER UP IN GOVERNMENT MUST KNOW WHAT’S GOING ON!
“the DHS, IRS, DEA, ATF, ICE, and the Obama Justice Department” are all named under oath as being tied to Fast and Furious in one way or another.
Who can be surprised about all this?
With an administration that pushed through Obamacare using devious means to takeover 1/6 of the economy, despite the clear dismay of the electorate, an administration who blackmailed bankers into taking the TARP funds … that has Unconstitutionally taken over businesses, disregarded contract law, handed over monumental dollar amounts to their cronies … with Jesse Jackson’s hope that Obama will do what the Constitution forbids … with Dems suggesting elections be “delayed” … and encouraging those who are basically formenting revolution … and the takeover of private property …
they will do anything they want. They don’t care about anything but what they want to do. Yes, it’s astonishing in its magnitude, but it’s no surprise. It’s been going on for 3 years, and will continue exponentially.
And the Media? Who expects anything else of them but to continue in their trashing of their own profession?
Ruling Class? It goes way beyond that.
“He’s indicated that he was not aware of what was happening in Fast and Furious…”Obama
Attorney General Eric Holder at the Mexico/United States Arms Trafficking Conference in CUERNAVACA, MEXICO Thursday, April 2, 2009
“Last week, our administration launched a major new effort to break the backs of the cartels. My department is committing 100 new ATF personnel to the Southwest border in the next 100 days to supplement our ongoing Project Gunrunner, DEA is adding 16 new positions on the border, as well as mobile enforcement teams, and the FBI is creating a new intelligence group focusing on kidnapping and extortion. DHS is making similar commitments, as Secretary Napolitano will detail.
But as today’s conference has emphasized, the problem of arms trafficking will not be stopped at the border alone. Rather, as our experts emphasized, this is a problem that must be met as part of a comprehensive attack against the cartels – an attack in depth, on both sides of the border, that focuses on the leadership and assets of the cartel…”
Imagine this idiot said he would be “very unhappy” if he found out. How about Furious, how about livid, how about heads will roll, but no – he will be very unhappy! Uhg – doesn’t it make you just crazy?!
“With respect to … Fast and Furious, I think I’ve been very clear that I have complete confidence in Attorney General Holder in how he handles his office. … He’s indicated that he was not aware of what was happening in Fast and Furious; certainly I was not.” Obama
Holder lied & Americans & Mexicans died.
If Obama didn’t know about “Fast & Furious”, he should have. So Obama is either incompetent or a liar…Of course, there is also the probability that Obama is both.
NOBAMA 2012
“Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink.” P.J.O’Rourke
“Ultimately, the mainstream media ignores Fast and Furious for the same reasons they report the supposed racism of the Tea Party. They don’t want to do anything that might undermine the ruling class and usher in a changing of the guard.”
What a bunch of garbage. The mainstream media is ignoring Fast and Furious because there is a liberal black Democrat in the White House. Fast and Furious could easily bring down this administration, maybe even Obama with it. The mainstream media simply can’t have that. They’ve been carrying water for Obama since 2008 and they’re not about to admit that they were terribly wrong. So they are going to do everything, and I mean everything, in their power to prop this guy up, no matter what the evidence against him or his minions. The only thing that will seal the deal against Holder will be a witness who will testify in Congress against him. After that, both the mainstream media AND the Democrats in Congress will not be able to ignore that. I do have this feeling that Holder is going down, but not with the help of the mainstream media. The last thing liberals in the mainstream media want is a scandal that is worse than Watergate for a president that is far worse than Nixon could ever be.
Don’t forget Hillary’s and the State Department’s role in this. Former Mrs. Cookie baker is up to her eyeballs in this whole thing.
http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2011/10/sipsey-street-exclusive-in-at-beginning_07.html
Partners in corruption and degradation, the Media and the Democrats, with weak sister Repubs trailing behind.
Love the Chris Matthews photo inclusion, where is aggressive big mouthed drunk on this one? Probably to busy rehearsing the questions and responses his large staff prepares for him.
Net, murder is no big deal if you’re leftist, they can overlook anything
Now is not a happy time for the Administration, or their acolytes in the MSM. One of the largest, legitimate scandals of American history has cracked open, like a collapsing cess pool. The stench is overwhelming, yet it is ignored. Within the last week, we have learned that several departments within the US government aided and abetted the transfer of thousands of military weapons to Mexican drug cartels. These weapons have been used in the murder of two American peace officers, and perhaps two hundred Mexicans. If true, these are major crimes, far worse than the sum of Watergate, Abu Ghraib and Gitmo. Contrary to the testimony of our Attorney General, he, or the officials who report directly to him, were intimately involved in the details of the plan, for a long time.
Yet no one remembers even the title, Fast and Furious. Or reports anything.
This instability can not continue; some one will either be proven a fool, or a felon. Or both. That some one is a high government employee, at, or in the Cabinet. They know that subordinates possess damning information, which has not seen the light of day. Both, many, sit on a razor blade.
And the media will, again, be exposed as partisan hacks. How do you claim to report news, when the entire world knows you sat on the story of the century? Their influence is national affairs is evaporating by the day.
Now is not a happy time for America.
Is there even one historical instance in which murder–be they 2 American law enforcement officers and/or hundreds of Mexican citizens–and mayhem prompted even the slightest hiccup of remorse among committed leftists? The record shows it does not. That truth rather clearly explains Obama’s lukewarm (“…I would have been very unhappy…”) reaction to this emerging criminal scandal. Instead, these types of collateral damages (if it/they can callously be called that) are merely counted as the cost of doing business, akin to writing-off a bad loan, in their quest to achieve a particular objective. As per usual, in the Marxist/Socialist/Nationalist/Ruling Class mindset, the end nearly always justifies the means…even if some eggs get broken along the way.
Anyone else think there might be a connection between Fast and Furious and the Administration’s push to support and eventually seek ratification of the Arms Trade Treaty (ATT) now making its way through the UN. What better rational to bring liberal Republications along when it comes time to ratify an ATT. Do you think that Senators Snowe, Collins, McCain etc. could be pursuaded to vote to ratify a small arms control treaty if the Administration succeeded in flooding countries south of us with guns without been caught?
Yeah, it is curious. Where’s the uproar between the congressional Hispanic caucus and the Black caucus? You would at least expect a food fight in the congressional dining room over those black departments heads and their honky underlings signing off on the extra-judicial killings of Mexican nationals with smuggled guns? Where is the La Raza hand wringing? I’ve yet to see a good cat fight between, say Bill Richardson (the democrats favorite Hispanic) and what’s her name (the bull dykish executive and former governor too) in charge of Home Land Security slugging it out with Uncle Tom Holder in charge of DOJ. You would think Chris Mathews legs would just be tingling and a throbbing with orgasmic energy over the scandal.
Major action on anti-gun legislation is taking place at the Capitol in Washington, DC now.
H.R. 822, “Obama’s Concealed Carry Bill,” which has been rapidly making its way through Congress, and votes are happening today and tomorrow in Committee.
Anti-gun members of the Committee are already trying to amend the bill to add national standards to the existing legislation, which NAGR opposes.
We expect a vote on this tomorrow, which is why it is imperative for you to call RIGHT NOW.
Please call Lamar Smith at 202-225-4236 right now. Tell him that you are opposed to this dangerous piece of legislation, H.R. 822.
And once you are done making that call, please call your Congressman 202-224-3121, and make your voice heard opposing H.R. 822.
“The time is near at hand which must determine whether Americans are to be free men or slaves.”
George Washington
Cloward-Piven is the basis for this administration’s raison d’etre.
Accepting this tenet, unraveling of all and understanding of Mr. Obama’s administration’s actions, words, and deeds become fully transparent.
Twarting the “Rule of Law” is a statement uttered as recently as six months ago by Ms. Piven in a speech to assembled, like-minded fellow travelers.
Mr. Sustein, Ms. Sibelius, Van Jones et al are staunch left-leaning, socialists convinced that a strong centralised cadre of individuals can ride rough-shod over a nation’s legislative/judicial system of government, opting for some nebulous “international law” type format.
By having a “nebulous standard of international laws” so goes the thinking, the “Rule of Law” is trumped…ergo, justifying the means to an “individuals” desired outcome type philosophy. This is Mr. Obama’s administrative gift to American governance.
Trouble with this method of governmental actions is that it resembles more and more those of tin-horn dictatorships. All of which have been demonstrable failures.
“Fast-and-Furious” is a perfect example of this administration’s mind-set. Fully exposes every aspect of this “means justify the ends” mentality.
Individuals in this administration should be named, exposed, deposed and convicted for wanton, blatant, flaunting of America’s US Constitution and “Rule of Law” as well as their having violated their Oath of Office.
An American citizen was killed in his line of duty, by a misguided,
ill-advised government run agenda to “under the radar” implement sweeping Gun
Control legislation both internally to the USA as well as through a UN Charter Treaty Ms. Hillary Clinton was preparing for ratification at the UN.
This administration will stop at nothing to shred our Beloved US Constitution, Declaration of Independence and Bill of Rights.
Vote massively this 2012 primary election because massive fraud will befall every polling precinct in Our USofA. God Bless America. Cain Can
Excellent post.
Not ready for Cain though. 9-9-9 can become 15-15-15 plus other taxes if the size and scope of gov’t is not decreased and narrowed. He has not said anything about reducing size and eliminating departments of gov’t. Or repealing Ocare, affirmative action, or getting us out of SW Asia and NOW mid-Africa. He has not said anything about eliminating DOJ at least the civil rights division which has been totally radicalized. EPA. HUD. DOEduc. and DOE.
“AWR Hawkins is a conservative writer who holds a Ph.D. in military history from Texas Tech University.”
This is baffling Dr. Hawkins and I’m curious as to where you’ve been for the past 11 years. Were not G. W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, etc. also members of your so called “ruling class”? And where were the media, so determined to ignore the foibles of the “ruling class,” with respect to these gentlemen? If you spent any time outside the halls of academia in the aforementioned decade plus one you’d realize how ridiculous your premise is. It is not the “ruling class” that is immune from close scrutiny it is the Progressive/Democratic Party and it’s membership that is immune from such. That you lump any Republican in with this bunch as being free from scrutiny is either self delusional or willful propaganda.
I live in Indianapolis where we had Dick Lugar on the school board, then as mayor. If you don’t think Dick is of the left wing liberal ruling class and only claims Republican Party affiliation to get elected you either;
1) Know nothing of IN’s senior senator.
2) Are a Democratic Party operative.
or,
3) Are delusional.
Mr. Hawkins is spot on.
Here!Here! Absolutely right on Lugar…the man must be removed this election cycle. He lives in Northern Virginia..and has for 30 years. He “visits’ Indiana when an important photo op or fundraiser is necessary to benefit him…and he’s a compromising liberal. The Tea Party in Indiana is fully committed to ending his miserable tenure. I have written to Lugar in the past on various issues…he DOES NOT RESPOND. But, he does put your info into his data bank for fundraising solicitations. I got one a while back…and returned the envelope with flyer for “The Villages” in Florida…and a recommendation that Lugar take a good look at it.
Excellent article. As a hard working, lover of America struggling in the middle class I am fed up with the direction of this country. Call me a Tea Party person or terrorist, I want our elected leaders to lead not rule! I want MSM and reporters to report the news not their bias opinions substituded for news. It is time to sweep clean the “ruling class” and bring back America’s greatness.
I keep seeing that “hundreds of Mexicans” have died, and “200 Mexican dead”, but I don’t believe I’ve ever seen that broken down into exactly who comprised those hundreds. I have a sneaking suspicion it might be the various drug cartel thugs killing each other, in which case, it’s the Mexican version of a self-cleaning oven, and a self-inflicted death penalty for being stupid, criminal and ugly.
I think Gunwalker is heinous and a crime and treason and certainly an impeachable offense, but let’s not pretend that 200 dead Mexican gangbangers is anything other than a step in helping to clean up America’s environment. We need to concentrate on the dead Americans that those gangbangers managed to take along with them, with the extremely capable assistance of our current administration.
Actually, the main victims of gang violence in Mexico are law-abiding citizens. Kidnapping for ransom is one of the cartels’ main sidelines. They also often murder people more-or-less at random, and dump the bodies in a very public place, as a warning to the hoi polloi not to assist the authorities by informing on the cartels’ minions.
Several areas of the country (notably Guadalajara) are under de facto cartel control, essentially “liberated areas” as per Marxist revolutionary doctrine ala’ Che’!. (I don’t know if the [!] is actually part of Ernesto Guevara Lynch de la Serna’s nom de guerre’, but his fans seem to like it.)
In all respects, the cartels are acting as competing revolutionary armies, attacking the government and terrorizing the populace, with fighting amongst themselves a secondary factor. Los Zetas are the outlier in the mix, as they have shown themselves to be entranced by the idea of Just Killing Everybody, target identification apparently being either too difficult a concept for them to grasp, or just too boring to worry about when they’re having fun (i.e., killing people).
My estimate is that, rather like the Communists and Islamists in Iran pre-Khomeini, the drug gangs in Mexico are operating on the principle of “destroy or take over the government now, worry about which of us will be top dog later”. “Later” will most likely be even more violent than “now”, if this is in fact their mindset, because unlike Iran, no one group has either numerical or firepower superiority. This is a recipe’ for unending civil war; barring foreign military intervention, that is.(Think Beirut in the late Seventies, Kosovo in the Nineties, or Somalia for the last twenty-odd years.)
And by the way, I consider that figure of 200 dead to be very likely an underestimate. The local authorities in various parts of Mexico are often in the pay of their local drug lords, and don’t report a lot of “incidents” to the national government, to avoid the national government noticing who they are actually working for.
Or in other words, the Mexican Attorney General’s Office may simply not be up to date on exactly how many bodies there are. Or where they are buried in mass graves.
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The end justifies the means? This is how these cognitive dissonance, agenda driven ruling class elitist think. And they are supported by comedy channels and faux journalists that don’t think it through either. If this was the early 60′s there would have been several people in jail awaiting trial and we would all be listening to the White House tapes. I meant digital recordings.
Has anyone considering the following, that F&F isnt just about supporting the 90 percent, but perhaps its also an effort to encourage greater illegal immigration? if DoJ/WH consider the impact of creating an environment in mexico that will encourage its citizen to flee to the United States, its almost makes it easier to understand the DoJ/WH reluctance to control the borders. More illegals means more votes.
i have been raising he!! about this bunch of crooks, robbers, and thieves for over 3 years now. nobody has been listening. now we have proof of their dastardly deeds; and, we all know this is just the tip of the proverbial iceberg. i wouldn’t be surprised if munition stores on military bases haven’t been missing of late. he has many friends in the military.
nobody knew about f & f even a couple months ago. some of us have been bringing the subject up on every blog we enter. i usually say something on topic, so as not to be deleted, and then leave a parting shot about the administration’s gunrunning/murders/etc. that is why folks are starting to talk about it. the good Amercans on the net have been educating the masses, one blog at a time.
if you really want this to continue to gain traction we all need to travel the net letting folks know what their government is trying to cover up. we can’t let this just die. make a promise to yourself to keep bringing this up until this thing gets wings of its own.
its only a little over a year now until we find out if we still have a country or not. the marxists will start really getting nasty now, as can be evidenced by the angry rhetoric we are hearing from them at every turn. read between the lines at what they say. real Americans should go ahead and prepare for the worse. if it is heating up like this now, wonder what it will look like in 12 months?
‘FAST AND FURIOUS’ FLASHBACK: DEPUTY AG ANNOUNCES AGGRESSIVE ‘GUN TRACING ACTIVITY’ IN 2009
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PNhYk9NuNc&feature=player_embedded
Egil, re: “Some of this could be explained by our fallen world, the Peter Principle, the ravages of the Sixties, etc., but there seemed to be something else at work too–some sort of framework already in place to help Political Correctness spread like wildfire, not only on the East and West Coasts but in the urban parts of “flyover country.”
If you are interested, the late Paul Weyrich and coauthor William Lind, in their 2009 book “The Next Conservatism,” penned an excellent chapter on the rise of political correctness, which they term “cultural Marxism,” and its origins in the Frankfurt School of Social Research in the 1920s and onward, in the works of Adorno, Horkheimer, Lukacs, Fromm, et al. – right up to the present day. Their thesis is that political correctness, multiculturalism, diversity, and similar doctrines have arisen in order to subvert and ultimately conquer America’s cultural institutions, i.e. the family, church, schools and community, and also to enforce conformity with the new ethos. The establishment class values the cultural Marxism not only for its utility in gaining them power, but also for its ability to stifle dissent and enforce conformity.
The “New Class,” (Democrat and GOP alike) as Lind and Weyruch term these mandarins of PC, is concerned not with perpetuating the founder’s republic or the verities of western civilization, but only in their personal enrichment and accumulation of power.
Thanks, Georgiaboy61. I’ll have to take a look at that book.
Nangee, re: “I keep seeing that “hundreds of Mexicans” have died, and “200 Mexican dead”, but I don’t believe I’ve ever seen that broken down into exactly who comprised those hundreds. I have a sneaking suspicion it might be the various drug cartel thugs killing each other, in which case, it’s the Mexican version of a self-cleaning oven…”
That’s not the point, Nangee. You seem to be making an “ends justify the means” argument, but Operation Gunwalker would have been a crime of historic proportions if no Mexicans were killed. Obama, Holder, Napolitano et al. intentionally interfered in the affairs of a sovereign nation, and placed its citizens and our own at risk, and in so doing broke a list of laws as long as your arm. As if these crimes weren’t serious enough, they were committed by the highest law enforcement officer in the land, and also our homeland security director. These are people entrusted with the security of this great nation. Obama himself must bear the worst blame, for the buck stops at his desk whether he likes it or not. All three of them should be impeached and’or simply removed from office in chains. That’s what would happen if we still had the rule of law as our founders intended, but unfortunately we do not. That does not change the fact that all three are criminals.
Let’s take inventory… we have a president in office in defiance of the constitution, and who has committed numerous crimes since his bloodless coup. He is waging illegal wars abroad and getting our sons and daughters killed without the permission of the American people. We have a Congress that has done nothing to stop him, and has aided and abetted him along the way. We have courts, including the Supreme Court, who refuse to uphold the law and work actively to subvert it at every opportunity. We have a Dept. of Justice run by criminal, who refuses to investigate, charge or pursue other criminals, many of whom are his friends. We have a Federal Reserve and Wall St. bankers who are looting the treasury and nothing is being done to stop them. Need we continue? \
The foregoing shows – and there are many, many more examples – that the U.S. government itself is the biggest breaker of laws in this country. They certainly aren’t going to reign themselves in; they’ve had the chance and done nothing. The only line of defense left is the people. If our republic is to be saved, it will have to we who do it. So, when do we start? “Occupy Wall St.” had a glimmer of the right idea, but the wrong street and the wrong town. It should be Washington DC they are occupying, and the rest of us common folk should join them. When do we start?
Only have to add that the next election will NOT restore or even begin to restore America. There must be a civil war. Otherwise they will only continue to ruin our nation. They will not relent.
So while I speak what nobody else wants to, if you think about it, it is true. Elections will not clean out the SCOTUS or the federal or district courts which are ruled by marxists. Elections will not clean out the imbedded marxists in the federal and state bureaucracies.
We can no longer live with white progressives/marxists, and their black and hispanic slaves. By example, as I am typing this, I am being assaulted by a bunch of black idiots in the parking lot listening to their thumping noise they call “music.” I can not live with them not their white owners any longer.
NRA’s LaPierre: ‘Fast and Furious’ Was Plot Against Second Amendment Friday, 14 Oct 2011 06:50 PM By Martin Gould and Ashley Martella
http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/LaPierre-NRA-gunrunning-fastandfurious/2011/10/14/id/414545?s=al&promo_code=D441-1
The Joy of Creeping Corruption
When the late economist-philosopher Friedrich Hayek coined the term “creeping socialism” in The Road to Serfdom, he couldn’t have envisioned the great socialist leap forward this America has witnessed under President Barack Hussein Obama. To complement the soaring socialism, Obama and his administration are now proving they are as guilty of creeping corruption as they are of perpetrating socialistic schemes.
It may all be a good thing.
In 2008, Obama was painted by his mainstream media as Mr. Clean, free of political contamination perhaps in part because he was so inexperienced in politics, and in everything else except community organizing. Perhaps, too, that cleanliness feature was on the mind of then-Senator Joe Biden when he described his future boss as “bright and clean.”
For the most part, the president somehow eluded significant scandal for two years but in the third year of his reign the dirt has hit the executive fan big time.
To be sure, there were relatively minor dings in Obama’s armor during his first two years. However, the out-of-control EPA and TSA, the WikiLeaks leaks, the black racism demonstrated at Eric Holder’s Justice Department, etc. and Obama’s scandalous mishandling of the economy weren’t comparable in gravity to the overt instances of corruption playing out now in both the White House and DoJ.
First came the “Fast and Furious” fiasco, the botched gun-running sting which resulted in the ATF furnishing some 1500 weapons to Mexican cartels which were then used to kill a U.S. border patrol agent and in countless crimes south of the border rather than achieving the planned aim of arresting Mexican criminals.
Close on the heels of Operation Fast and Furious came the Solyndra and LightSquared messes, the administration’s favoritism toward so-called “green” companies. Playing favorites is a time-honored if sleazy feature of politics but when the administration wasted hundreds of millions of dollars of scarce taxpayer money and the good buddies repaid that largesse by generously funneling millions back to Obama’s campaign war chest, favoritism entered the realm of impeachable corruption.
If anything, the corruptive nature of the LightSquared seamy involvement with the presidency actually eclipsed the Solyndra boondoggle.
What may turn out to be the ultimate irony in the deceit, misrepresentations, and outright lies of Eric Holder and Barack Obama relating to the administration’s growing record of corruption is the fact that most of it was avoidable had the president not adopted the Nixonian approach to being caught: deny, deny, and deny again. . .
(Read more at http://www.genelalor.com/blog1/?p=5724.)
As we look at the ruling class we ought to think of some our founding fathers writing. I found this Thomas Paine quote well worth considering.
THESE are the times that try men’s souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands by it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives every thing its value. Heaven knows how to put a proper price upon its goods; and it would be strange indeed if so celestial an article as FREEDOM should not be highly rated. Britain, with an army to enforce her tyranny, has declared that she has a right (not only to TAX) but “to BIND us in ALL CASES WHATSOEVER” and if being bound in that manner, is not slavery, then is there not such a thing as slavery upon earth. Even the expression is impious; for so unlimited a power can belong only to God.
Gee – I am shocked, shocked that an observation has been made that the country is not divided y political parties but by a
ruling elite — and the rest of us. Perhaps someday, we shall be informed, correctly, that government of, by and for the people has degenerated into government of, by and for the insiders.
It will, of course, take more time for this insight to become general knowledge — else someone would long ago have called into question those ruling class political soirees at $35,800 a pop (that is more than three times my annual Social Security income, AND the Tea Party would have lauded Madison’s observation in Federal No. 57 that there are people in society seeking the “ambitious sacrifice of the many, to the aggrandizement of the few.” In fact, and I believe this would not have pleased Madison, our country is in the grasp of such aggrandizers.
It is not encouraging that prominent conservative radio-talkers have viciously attacked Occupy Wall Street. The nature of the attacks, going so far as to deny the humanity of the protesters, causes me to wonder if these talkers are, in fact. left-wing moles, out to discredit the GOP and conservatives.
Have we reached the point where Democrats have artfully maneuvered Republicans and conservatives to appear in full support of the aggrandizer intent on squeezing the middle class by all economic means necessary, including 30% interest rates, bailouts for the ruling class, reduced packaging and higher prices, and so forth?
Lord Bryce noted, in The American commonwealth that the Americans are deeply committed to economic equality. E.E. Schattschneider pointed out in The Semi-Sovereign People that universal change will be accepted; relative change will not
Yes, there are elements in Occupy Wall Street mean-spiritd against Republicans — I have seen posters with these remarks, and true, if a Republican were in office, OWS would likely have many posters declaring ad hominem attacks on the Republican president. I saw no posters criticizing President Obama in Zuccotti Park. But this is a moment to focus on our founding legacy. OWS and Tea Party should unite in a common front against the ruling elite that would leave a smidgen of our country their gate community with the rest of us living on arid soil — if that is, both are committed to our founding legacy.
The greed of the insiders reveals their economic stupidity — how long can they flourish when the middle class is impoverished. There is an observation in Ecclesiastes, Chapter V — to the effect that a person who loves money will not be satisfied. Indeed, our aggrandizeers are not satisfied with their wealth — theirs is an addiction to wealth, and, in addition to unlimited riches, they crave political power. Consider, please Michael R. Bloomberg.