Falcon Lake Murder: Mexican Investigator Beheaded
The investigation into the murder on Falcon Lake has taken a grisly new turn:
The lead Mexican investigator in the Falcon Lake case, Rolando Armando Flores Villegas, has been killed, his severed head delivered Tuesday in a suitcase to the Mexican military, officials told CNN.
“His head was delivered to the army garrison this morning in a suitcase after he failed to report back home last night,” Zapata County, Texas, Sheriff Sigifredo Gonzalez Jr. said.
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Mexican officials also confirmed the brutal killing.
For those who have been skeptical of Tiffany Hartley’s telling of her husband’s murder, fair enough, we all have been rendered cynics by the Susan Smiths and Scott Petersons of the world, but it’s time to stand down on this case. So far there is substantial evidence supporting Hartley, including an eyewitness who saw her being chased on the lake, blood recovered from her life vest, and police footage of the Hartleys being stopped on the road within hours of David Hartley’s murder. That footage shows the Hartleys together, jet skis in tow, on their way to the lake. Police stopped them because of a license plate mismatch, and then let them go. Up against this, there is no evidence that Tiffany Hartley isn’t telling the truth, just understandable doubt.
And now we have the murder and beheading of the lead Mexican investigator on the case. It’s abundantly clear from the circumstances of his death that the Zetas don’t want David Hartley’s killing investigated. They killed the investigator to ramp up their intimidation of law enforcement officers to keep them off the trail, both of this crime and of the Zetas activities in general
In addition to Villegas’ execution, authorities in Arizona report a beheading on the U.S. side of the border:
Chandler police are investigating the bizarre case of a man who was stabbed, decapitated and left in a pool of blood in a central city apartment.
One man has been arrested and police are seeking three more suspects in what may be the city’s first beheading.
…………………The man police arrested in the case, Crisantos Moroyoqui, 36, is an undocumented immigrant who lived across the way from the murder scene. He rented a bed for $100 a month in a small apartment shared by five other day laborers. He had lived there three months, his roommates said Monday.
This may well be a gang-on-gang execution. It resembles many such executions that have happened in Mexico over the past couple of years. But it occurred on the U.S. side of the border.
Okay, I’ll stand down. I would however be more sympathetic to America’s Mexico border problem if the US were to be less insistent on establishing a Palestinian terror entity on the outskirts of Tel Aviv and Jerusalem.
The real issue in all this, with all respect to the Hartleys and others who live around the border, is – will Mexico survive? With all the easy urges to write off the ‘stupid brown people’, the US can’t afford to let Mexico dissolve. But I guess it is doing that anyhow. It should certainly give a boost to the Canadian and Hawaiian tourist industries.
Precisely why shouldn’t we let Mexico dissolve? In a Darwinian survival of the fittest sort of way, if it’s not working, let it die. Isn’t the reason that America is also teetering on the brink because we, too, are trying to keep too many natural misfits alive?
I’m tired of being told I have to be my brother’s keeper, especially when my brother can’t be persuaded to educate himself, obey the law, and get up in the morning to go to a job.
But then, if you’re dragging in Israel kicking and screaming from left field, my guess is you are motivated by lefty-biased emotion rather than natural and American law.
Nahncee, he was complaining about the Palestinians more so than the Israelis. That would be analogous to creating a Zetalandia that was neither Mexican or American.
If there is to be a DREAM act make sure the new recruits take up arms against their old country. 20 kills for your papers. No Rahmstein or Okinawa for you!!!!
I’ve never heard anyone on any side of any argument involving Mexico refer to Mexicans as “stupid brown people.” I don’t have to look down on Mexican citizens on a personal level and call them names in order to hold an opinion reflecting my weariness at being held hostage for all things Mexican regardless of the cost and damage to the US.
I agree, i don’t recall “stupid brown people” being in the argument…The only stupid brown people I have any knowledge of are the ones that are running the Mexican gov.
I’m interested in our borders here in the USA..others can worry about their own. I am tired of being my so called brothers keeper and letting our country go to hell.
One answer for the gangs and trash on the mexican side of the lake….napalm
Indeed, napalm.. or better yet, real live training for our Seals. Falcon lake, zeta scum …seem to be a perfect place for a Seal training base.
Training base phooey! Time for a full scale invasion and execution of anyone found with a gang tattoo or evidence of gang affiliation.
Who is to say that a legitimate Mexican nation hasn’t already dissolved?
as far as I am concerned, Mexico IS a failed state.
I think we should assume that Mexico is a failed state and make them an offer they can’t refuse.
I think we should offer each of the Mexican states statehood in the United States with a strict set of criteria including getting rid of the corruption in local governments.
You have it 100% right…Mexico needs to hang it up and become part of the USA with every single rule followed…What we need is a real leader in our country to make such things happen…As long as that worthless Obama is in office, nothing will happen…
It seems to me that there is a very simple solution to stop the violence.
How about if Americans stop taking illegal drugs?
Then there wouldn’t be any money or incentives for the violent drug gangs to exist.
A possible alternative is to legalize drugs, which would again take away the money incentives for the violent gangs.
This isn’t about illegal immigration. This is about collateral damage in the War on Drugs which we’ve clearly being losing for several decades.
Americans stop using illegal drugs??? ha!!..never happen, it would be against their civil rights or somethin’.
This wont be the first failed war against a drug. Look at what happened during prohibition. Made the bootleggers rich, just like the drug runners now.
Stop drug consumption in the US and all of it goes away. One way to do it is to “poison the well”: invade the drug markets with poisonous heroin, cocaine, etc. Once the word is out that some high number have died by taking contaminated stuff only the hard-core users will remain (for a while). Seal border. Case closed.
Despite all the howls such an idea is bound to generate, I still wouldn’t mind seeing the US/Mexican border being used as a US Special Forces training zone.
It makes much more sense than what is going on now.
I’m all for any idea that would enable US to shoot back at THEM.
And, actually, that might also go internally here for all the Main Streets in Springfield, Anywhere, USA that have been over-run by tattoo’d gangbangers.
“undocumented immigrant”
AGAIN with this PC crap? They’re ILLEGAL ALIENS. Period. And if liberals cared about “the brown people” at all, they’d stop this nonsense before people start their own vigilante justice and attack anyone brown they see. And who could blame them? Few Americans know what it’s like to live one unsecured border away from people who behead as a matter of course anyone they don’t like. You hear htat, New York? How would you like it if Brooklynites started beheading people? And the cops/feds did nothing? Would you be a little anxious?
They are already working on beheadings in Brooklyn evidenced by the number of mosques in New York City. Only they’ll be called honor killings.
Home run with bases loaded Sir!
I’m willing to bet left wing pussies will think you are outside the mainstream. Islam is a religion of peace they will write. It is just extremists have highjacked the blood cult of the moon god.
Ha!
I have lived in Mexico for a year, and expect to be here for my duration. I love my life here, but it is way past time to send in the Seals, Berets, Rangers, and all the firepower we have available. We know, the Mexican government knows, where these animals are. Take them out now! Mexico City will never step up to the plate.
Also, How about the death penalty for ANY pusher? No one can stop weak people from using drugs, but we can start destroying the source. No paroles, no bullshit, no long waits on ‘death row’.
While we should not legalize drug possession, what would be wrong with clandestinely growing heroin and cocaine domestically in greenhouses or other man-made environments and side stepping foreign supply and the turf wars that go with it.
Something tells me that wacking Pete Coors isn’t going to solve the Mexican gang problems.
I have lived in Mexico for 22 years and agree with Vaughn. If they call it a war, make it a war, a la Gen. Sherman of the Civil War. You cannot arrest, jail and try these types of vicious savages. Mexican society simply cannot sustain that type of process. Judges will be bought, witnesses and investigators killed, jailkeepers compromised, all their families threatened. The power, the massive firepower, the compromised authorities up to the very top of all the police agaencies, make it impossible to stop the devastation and spiral into chaos. The only way to deal with this level of inhuman terror is simple – it’s called war. You attack, kill, wipe them out. No arrests. No trials. no lawyers. If they attack your family you attack theirs. Bomb all their suspected hideouts, all assets seized. No quarter, no mercy except those that surrender and confess and renounce it. the Colombian people did this and won. The cartels moved to Mexico. The Mexican people are, sadly, more easily malleable. They are of less fortitude and integrity than the Colombians. I pray I am wrong. I pray for this nation.
Also note that Colombia sits pretty damn far from both the US border/Miami and from the cheap Wal-Mart Grecian version of the USA, Argentina. No realistic escape valves: they had to suck it up and fight the cartels. We get the Colombians that could afford the plane fare, visas (and yes, some “falsos”), and have some skills. After this week, Chileans probably laugh at us. We need to physically, legislatively, and judicially close off our side of the “escape” valve, and maybe the common Mexican folk suck it up and fight.
When a country — Mexico — is unable to control it’s own territory, any bordering country acquires the right to take action within their borders to secure safety in it’s own territory. This doesn’t require declaration of war against Mexico, merely declaration of war against the entities within Mexico that are the danger.
Our government likely knows exactly where the drug rings are located. A single AC-130 gunship would solve the problem in an evening.
Since the Democrats had full control of the executive and legislative branches, I’m sure the problem is already fixed, and we are just reacting to old news.
A much more serious problem, folks, is that those wascally Wepublicans are financing their campaigns with money from foreign countries, laundered through, of all people, those insideous, diabolical and dastardly wascals in the U.S. Chamber Of Commerce.
THAT is the primary focus of the Obama Administration right now …, well, that and trying to figure how much money they can skim off of the one billion dollars appropriated for relief to Haiti, so that, along with misappropriated money from the stimulus package, they can distribute that stolen money as more pay-offs to labor unions. Are we seeing more smoke and mirrors here?
Dianne:
Nice Barney Frank imitation. The Commie Dems are always playing the same game: accuse Republicans of doing what they ARE doing. I hope people remember the factual news from 2008 of the foreign anonymous donations and the Palestinian call centers in support of Obama.
Barney Frank??? Um, no. LOL (Hint #2: Ewww, I’ll get you, you skewy wascally wabbit!)
BTW, I didn’t make that up @ #7. Those were Axelrod’s and Obama’s own screwy accusations.
And you blindly believe everything Axelrod and Obama say and do. What color is the kool aide these days?
LOL
Brenda didn’t even understand what I said. In the words of Bugs Bunny, “What a maroon!”
And ditzy Brenda says, “Duh”. Too funny.
Lary in the Silicon – Our economy keeps the Mexican economy AFLOAT!
The Merida Initiative (‘Thank you’ Bush administration – )
Tourism dollars, illegal aliens in the U.S. sending an overwhelming majority of their earnings to Mexico (not into our economy, which would be ‘silly’), assisting the Mexican police, their federal division, their narco division etc.,
We needn’t discuss children living IN Mexico near Texan border towns attending U.S. schools, welfare, Section 8, tax credits, illegals being put on ‘probation’ and expected to attend ‘court dates’ for driving, drug, overwhelming gang crimes (look at the homosexual boy recently for but 1 example of thousands..) and other offenses on U.S. soil..
The “Broken window” theory is that if a neighborhood is allowed to deteriorate with things like unfixed broken windows, then crime is invited in. So too with Obama refusing to enforce the immigration laws on the border. Not enforcing some laws invites criminals to commit others.
what many are not realizing is that the drug cartels are actually migrating and have been doing so slowly in the span of a couple of decades. The cartels used to be in Colombia, and have abandoned that country since Escobar was taken out. The cartels have had free reign along the US Mexico border for how many years now and they’ve pretty much sent a lot of their soldiers into the US. The US have been infiltrated for years and we don’t even know it. Mexico (all of South America actually) is blaming the US for the proliferation of MS-13 into South America, nothing could be farther from the truth. MS-13 is not just some gang that came from south-LA, it had always been financed by drug money from south america.
America needs to wake up. the Drug war had just escalated and the US is not putting up its guard as it should. if the US fail to escalate its efforts in this drug war, we will wake up one day with the cartels inside the US itself.
hey, it seems Hillary is reading our comments here at PJM, LOL!
http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/10/16/clinton.drug.cartels/?hpt=T1
“Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said the U.S. can do more to help Mexico battle drug cartels that have started operating more like terrorists and insurgent groups.
‘It is one of my highest priorities,’ Clinton said Friday during a speech in San Francisco at the nonpartisan Commonwealth Club. ‘This is one of the most difficult fights that any country faces today. We saw it over the last couple of decades in Colombia.’
‘We are watching drug traffickers undermine and corrupt governments in Central America, and we are watching the brutality and barbarity of their assaults on governors and mayors, the press, as well as each other, in Mexico,’ she added.”
The ‘Drug Lords’ now make more than half their money
from ransom, gun running, and other non-drug crimes;
They are no longer criminals, but a mini-state within
Mexico, arguably more powerful than the official govt,
and they may decide to take advantage of the coming
civil unrest in the US to expand their operations
north of the border.
The weakness of the Mexican government, its inability
to provide basic services and protections to its people,
and particularly to respond to emergencies, is a threat
to US security; If a disaster, natural or ‘man caused’
renders one of the sister cities along the border
uninhabitable, the city’s residents will cross the
border as an overwhelming wave of refugees, and US
policy toward illegal immigrants from Mexico will
take a very unpleasant turn for the worse.
Just look how many Republicans strongly supported cooperation with Colombia’s military for years that finally turned things around for them, only to oppose such things as the Merida Initiative as “foreign aid”. But that isn’t so since the “aid” of a few hundred million isn’t even much to Mexico since it has a trillion dollar economy now and the 14th largest in the world -and our third largest trading partner. People that say Mexico is a failed state don’t get some fundamental facts right nor our own Southwest economy and culture.
What Mexico doesn’t have is military hardware, training, and a strong military culture that US military influence can inject as with Colombia, of which Merida was at least a start. The Republicans and Conservatives that oppose these partnerships are using is a double standard, and very dumb. They are acting like the Democrats did with Colombia.
Mexico is under attack and we should care if only for our own citizens and interests and be willing to do at least as much as we did for Colombia. These thugs are actually terrorists in purpose and method, as opposed to merely organized crime that operated within limits. Screaming “border security” against terrorism isn’t any brighter than calling for certain types of security after 9/11. You’ll never have security tight enough to avoid attacks if you play defense, you have to go after them and in this case partnering with Mexico diplomatically and militarily makes sense. They aren’t our enemy -these murderous thugs are. Don’t confuse this issue with illegal immigration. That is a separate discussion. People that think they can shut out terrorists like this with border security only aren’t rational.
You hit the nail on the head!!
they have a trillion dollar economy and yet they can’t buy hardware nor train their police and military…that is a priority problem and not a financing problem.
one big factor for Mexico’s failure in curtailing the drug violence is the willingness of their politicians, police, and military leaders to be corrupted. that is a fact!
corruption within their government is a big problem. fix that first, before you send millions in aid from the US. that’s just throwing money away.
“You’ll never have security tight enough to avoid attacks if you play defense, you have to go after them and in this case partnering with Mexico diplomatically and militarily makes sense.”
that is absolutely wrong. for years during the cold war, the US put up a sonar curtain that can detect a submarine in both the pacific and atlantic oceans, satellites that can detect heat blooms from a russian missile silo, radars that can pick up hostile aircraft hundreds of miles away, satellite cameras that can take a picture of a license plate from miles above the planet. YET, we can’t plug holes and tunnels on our own borders.
we have the technology, we just don’t have the leadership that has the balls to do it.
Put the Coast Guard and some torpedo launchers on Falcon Lake. Tell the drug lords that we are going after the body, and anyone trying to stop us will meet their end on that lake.
If the Mexican policias won’t get their own house in order, why should we worry about incursions into their territory?
Sheppard Smith will be reporting tomorrow that Flores Villegas was decapitated by Tiffany Hartley; or, at least, that there’s no proof that she didn’t.
>> If the Mexican policias won’t get their own house in order, why should we worry about incursions into their territory?
That statements like this sound reasonable to anyone is frightening. If the authorities on either side knew where he was there wouldn’t need do be an investigation, nor reason to murder the investigator. This is just the typical “screw Mexico” bigotry. In the 30′s we had our own violent crime wave that took a long time to tamp down, and that was before such advanced weaponry was available that has changed everything. To hear some Americans talk Mexico could stop this anytime they wish, whereas in fact it will be a long and difficult struggle that they have begun. A law enforcement officer risks his life (he probably knew who he was up against) and loses it and the bigots chant childish unserious nothings that make them feel good -sad as that is. People living on the US border are screwed as long as this passes for intelligent comment.
“In the 30’s we had our own violent crime wave that took a long time to tamp down”
It tamped down when we repealed prohibition. The war on drugs is nonsense, it will never work, and should be repealed. All we are doing is creating a marketplace for a product that makes unimaginable amounts of cash for criminals. Take away the money factor and violence will Tamp down.
If we do not learn from our own History we will repeat it again and again.
We all know that this fits nicely with ohbummers present agenda. He won’t take an aggressive stance against terrorism and he won’t defend the border because he wants America to be a third world nation. Willing and ready to lay down for any thug, just like the French.
The bottom line is: Deal with the border problem ASAP or have a Sinaloa Strip just like Gaza’s Strip. Piss on Mexico’s government and piss on Barack Obama as well. He SHOULD have transferred Stanley McChrystal to the US Mexican border instead of demanding his resignation. Give McChrystal the troops, equipment and assets and leave him be. I guarantee within two years, no more problem…or no more Mexico.
How about if the American people demand the reinstatement of Gen’l McChrystal and that the President put him in charge of the border region between the US and Mexico?
As for the libtards who think legalizing drugs is the answer, what will you do when the wackos get all wacked out on dope and kill people? Dope is not like alcohol. Alcohol is a legitimate and natural thing. Even Jesus, the very Son of God, drank alcohol. But only a hippy freakazoid could imagine Jesus rolling a doob, or snorting a line, or smoking meth or popping a few pills.
With 52% of their votes, the people of Chile elected a successful businessman, Sebastian Pinera, as their president, and he just became a national hero.
With 52% of their votes, the people of the USA elected a street hustler, Barack Obama, as their president, and, predictably, he has become a disgrace.
Seems to me that we’re trying to marginalize the wrong people in this country. Perhaps immigrants from Chile could teach us a thing or two about choosing a president who has leadership, executive and managerial skills.
To Democrats who read these threads, compare the inept and sleazy ways that Obama handles crises in this country to the skillful and ethical ways that Pinera has handled two major crises in his country, and then try to convince me what a brilliant candidate YOU elected.
Hell, you just elected one of your own; a loser, a creep and another bumbling, incompetent twit with the same consistently poor judgment that you have exercised in your own lives. The purpose of which was what? To bring the rest of the country down to your level, instead of cleaning up your acts and elevating yourselves?
Diane:
Great comment. I agree 100%. RESULTS is the name of the game. If Obama is so good let him do like Piñera: deliver the goods.
>> “In the 30’s we had our own violent crime wave that took a long time to tamp down”
>> It tamped down when we repealed prohibition.
Alex: Prohibition contributed greatly to organized crime, and was unwise, but once a crime wave begins it does not end of itself. Prohibition lasted until 1933, but Capone (for one) was indicted for income tax evasion in 1929.
If you think drugs causes people to want to decapitate people you’re crazy. These guys are motivated by a lot more than money. It’s naive to think those who decapitate people are going to stop if drugs are legalized. Though a lot of corrupt money goes into their maintenance and support, terrorists aren’t motivated by money.