Enough About McCain’s ‘Graciousness’ — It’s the Reason He Lost
Honestly, if I should hear the word “gracious” applied to John McCain’s concession speech even one more time, I may throw the biggest hissy fit ever seen this side of the Mississippi.
In reality, however, it isn’t the concession speech that has me riled. It’s the unavoidable reality that Senator McCain attempted to be graciousness personified throughout his campaign.
Now, please, dear reader, do not misunderstand me.
There’s not a darned thing wrong with graciousness; I shoot for it all the time myself.
On the other hand, one does not need to have studied at the famed American War College to know that when a battle calls for a Patton, one does his country no favor by going as a Bradley instead.
When the object is to win, it would seem that the most salient key to victory lies in properly gauging the true character of one’s opponent. And in this regard, it seems to me that our beloved Senator McCain — outstanding war hero and statesman that he is — failed to comprehend the reality on the ground regarding Barack Obama and that army of trench fighters backing his candidacy.
Now, there is no doubt that John McCain does not make these naïve misjudgments when it comes to our enemies around the world.
McCain has said plainly on more than one occasion that when he looks into Putin’s eyes, he sees KGB. McCain knows full well that Putin, in a suit playing friendly diplomatic statesman, is a front for an old KGB power-mad goon.
McCain understands that Putin is merely going through the motions while keeping his eye firmly fixed on the old Soviet empire, patiently awaiting opportunities to rebuild it. There is no doubt that Putin still pulls the strings in Russia and is merely waiting for his imminent return to the formalities of power.
The country of Georgia proved a handy testing of American limits. Now it’s on to Poland and those missiles rushed in already to test our new knave of a president-elect.
John McCain understands the evil and the determination of our Islamo-fascist foes far, far, far, far better than Barack Obama. There is no doubt whatsoever about this.
John McCain has stated ferociously and often that when it comes to our war with Islamo-fascism, “we will never surrender. They will.” On the will and persistence which will be required to defeat these mullahs, intent on establishing their worldwide fascist caliphate, McCain obviously gets it.
Barack Obama, on the other hand, spent several years of his own childhood with a kindly Islamic stepfather, attending school as a Muslim and learning the Koran. Young Barack tells of a fondness for the melodic sound of the calls to prayer at the mosque and of going there on Fridays with his stepfather. He mastered the call himself and can still belt it out in perfect Arabic.
Barack’s own mother, a lovely anthropologist, raised to disdain Christians as weak-minded hypocrites, had no such antipathy for any other world religion. In fact, she twice married Muslim men, the first as a second wife to a man for whom Islamic polygamy was a virtue.
In adulthood, Barack Obama has made it a point to embrace the Palestinian point of view in its historic battle over the little strip of Middle Eastern land called Israel. Obama has traveled all of his adult life in these far-left intellectual circles and chose a church closely identified with the Palestinian “cause,” a supposedly Christian church where Muslims need not renounce that faith to join. Obama spent 20 years in Wright’s church, where Louis Farrakhan was a local hero and recipient of honorific awards.
John McCain, clearly, does not confuse these foreign enemies with friends.
But he did underestimate the guile of Barack Obama.
Hundreds of pundits from coast to coast are already engaged in the process of explaining what went wrong for John McCain. In fact, this process will undoubtedly continue for quite some time. Political analysts will write books on the topic from one point of view or another in the coming year. Opining upon this historic election will become a national pastime in some circles.
As for me, I won’t spend another week on this.
I’m sick to death of this campaign.
And crying over spilt milk has never succeeded in putting a single ounce of it back into the bottle.
My own opinion was formed over the past year as I looked at the man, Barack Hussein Obama, in public giving perfectly choreographed speeches with the aid of his teleprompter and professional speechwriters, while he fumbled and stumbled and misspoke and spoke inartfully every time he was without his props.
My opinion only hardened every time I heard Obama inventing relatives out of whole cloth to add flourish to his carefully constructed, oh-so-American narrative.
Lies by any other name … still lies.
My opinion was gradually set in steel as I read and studied and pored over Obama’s own books. The incongruous details of his race-obsessed memoir — the invented episodes, the composite characters, the utter lack of humility and true introspection — all bespoke a man of innate dishonesty and a lack of healthy shame. His audacious book on politics did nothing but hammer home his lack of principles and values, as he equivocated every single position, until the reader could determine absolutely nothing coherent about the writer.
Barack Obama has lived 47 years. In all that time, he has presented himself in public as a multi-dimensional symbolic figure, self-anointed as far more special than any of his actual deeds have ever — even in a single instance — validated as reality. If ever there was a more enigmatic figure in American public life, I have yet to discover him.
And so, my own final judgment of this campaign is that John McCain’s failure to assess the depth of his opponent’s desire for power — power for its own sake — was his own fatal flaw.
And the moment of truth in this campaign:
When Larry King asked John McCain less than a week before the election whether he believed Barack Obama was a socialist, McCain firmly answered, “No.”
In fact, he should have said, “Verily, I do not know what Barack Obama is and neither does anyone else, except perhaps the man himself.”
To which McCain might have added for extra flourish — and perhaps hundreds of thousands of votes for himself:
“If he walks like a socialist, and quacks like a socialist, then there is very good reason to assume that he is a socialist.”
For this, one needs no education, but he does need a grain of common sense. Pure common sense — common sense not defiled by the ongoing, ubiquitous reeducation camp we euphemistically refer to as political correctness.
John McCain, in this contest of your life, your own misplaced sense of graciousness defeated you. And I am truly saddened that we will never have the benefit of your service as our commander in chief.
That is settled; it is now history. What remains to be seen is what your own error will cost the American people, for whom you refused to be the Patton we needed.






McCain, too clueless for prime time.
If you are to sad, man, for McCaine, go and throw yourself in the war, go front line in Irak or Afganistan, go don’t wait a minute, don’t think about it, smarty one! Get the gun…as I see many people buy the guns, They don’t care about economy, educations, health care, reputation of this country in the world…they care about guns: VIOLENCE,
Barak Hussein Obama achieved his goal because he was so determined. But we do not know who he is yet. I will be indifferent and vigilant to him until he proves himself. He may be a real devil leading the country nowhere.
it’s really because a lot of people rejected a campaign based on fear and hate. we didn’t want to vote for that. and we didn’t want to vote for palin.
I really wonder if Suzi thinks before she types.
It is almost as if the Republican nomination was McCain’s real objective. He had no problems telling lies about Romney, but could not tell the truth about Obama.
An officer and a gentleman.
Not a warrior.
Good article. McCain did pull his punches and the only thing that got him as close as he did was Sarah Palin. You are right, we don’t know much about Obama but we are about to learn. His first press conference said a lot. There he was stumbling through his answers, surrounded by rich white men and on the podium was a sign saying “Office Of The President-Elect”. Sorry all you members of the “proletariat”. You’ve just been thrown under the bus.
Hope all you liberals are out there paying lots of taxes. I am waiting for all my free stuff Obama promised me.
Kyle-Anne, you’re absolutely correct (and ignoring the moonbat’s usual chatter on off-subject topics). Obama was, and is, a target rich political person that McCain allowed to be “penubral”. Contrast Joe the plumber forced error with McCain’s methods since Joe is hardly on a scale of political experience with John. As some pundits have pointed out, you know more about Joe the plumber than you do about Obama (especially the moonbats). McCain is the sole reason for that.
Next up will be McCain joining with those across the aisle and get face time on the Sunday talk shows in the spirit of bipartisanship. At least the decline will be longer than my lifetime.
Suzi, you prove your own point in regards to education. You need re-education on spelling and sentence structure. Violence and guns-do you read
the newspaper? Watch TV? There are more black people killed by other black
people for coats, shoes, jewelry or just to send a message. That is Violence!! Maybe, that is how the economy is helped. They have to buy more
stuff after it is stolen.
Americas reputation, the people of this country have helped other countries thru donations and tax dollars in times of crisis. We have sent thousands of people to help and educate other people, teaching them to help themselves. I don’t care what a foreign country thinks of us. I am sure we
will be there to help them, even if they don’t like us.
I felt a lot of frustration that John McCain refused to speak out about the obvious problems with Obama. He may have felt like he was taking the higher road in the general election, but in the primaries he was not so nice. He was caught out in obvious lies about Romney and when it was made clear that he had lied he made no effort to apologize and set the record right. Maybe people thought he would be a good campaigner against the left, but he has spent too much time fighting the right and reaching out to the left. I believe he wanted to win, but he didn’t want to win bad enough to go against old habits. It’s a shame, because I believe he would have made a good Commander in Chief. And now we are stuck with Obama. Now I pray for Obama. I pray that he won’t destroy my country.
The treatment of Sarah Palin by the left and right has been horrendous. McCain called on her in his time of need. Now, why is he silent? Where is he? What kind of man lets his running mate bear the blame for his failure? Come on McCain – Get off your disappointed rear and defend her!!!!
A very good, honorable man, but not the right candidate. We have to win Congress in two years and send the real Sarah Palin to the White House in 2012. That would be the person in the Alaska governor’s race debate, the one who showed up in Dayton and St. Paul. It will take a very good team and a popular power base to actually tackle the cess pool of corruption in DC and NYC, and to repair the damage done by the Obama team. Identify our mistakes and build on our strengths. Obama has enough rope to hang himself, his arrogance trumps his intelligence. Sitting Bull had him pegged, “Smart, but not wise.” I’m an independent conservative, if Sarah runs I’ll become an active Republican.
Hate to say it, but McCain’s failings caught up with him. He was intent on “reaching across the aisle” when exposing the dangerous ideology on the other side was what was critical. He wanted to paternalistically smooth over differences that were irreconcilable.
All he had to do was listen to his own supporters – such as the guy who was angry at the socialism overtaking the nation. He got on that, but then quenched it as soon as the media became disapproving. He then picked the theme back up after JTP led the way, but it proved to be too late.
And his campaign kept Palin on a short tether, limiting her effectiveness and severely damaging her credibility in the interviews.
Yes, the campaign was dealt a severe blow with the economic meltdown. But it proved it could overcome even that. What it couldn’t overcome was its own unwillingness to, as Ms. Shiver notes, accurately assess the enemy’s purposes and then ply the fight where it mattered.
A lost opportunity which comes at an especially bad time, when the politics of a whole generation are beginning to be set. Hope all you guys have a good number of canteens hanging from your belts. At minimum it’s going to be a long wilderness journey for the party, and I’m not sure the nation ever comes back in any recognizable form.
“Richard Cook:
I really wonder if Suzi thinks before she types.
Nov 9, 2008 – 2:58 am”
I’m sure she does, but clearly not in English.
He was a man of honor from the point he was imprisoned to the point he lost the election.
but throughout he put his honor first despite claiming country first. he wanted to run his way to win rather than what it take to win with honor. he lost.
then he lost some of his honor when he kept mum as his chosen running mate was trashed by his staff.
lost the election.
lost his honor.
sad
John McCain is no favorite of conservative Republicans; not now, not ever. Expecting him to campaign as one wasn’t going to happen. I’m not sure he is so much gracious as he is tepid. He campaigned the way he has done business in D.C. for thirty years. I am not shocked he lost.
Apparently the number of voters this year was the same as in 2004. Since there is ample evidence that there were many first time voters registered in this election and many voted for Obama it is reasonable to conclude that McCain did not excite his base. So the election certainly would have been closer had more republicans liked this candidate. And that has nothing to do with him bring gracious or not.
Even though I voted for him I never liked McCain I just liked Obama less. But I have many friends who didn’t vote at all who voted last time. And some switched to Obama because they hated McCain.
I continue to read with amazement people saying we don’t know what Obama stands for. Must be a joke, right? He is a socialist, believes in income redistribution and diplomacy above military in all maters. He is smart and articulate and knows how to excite the base and use the liberal media to his advantage. He believes in more government and less CO2 and will do what it takes to achieve those goals. Any questions?
When, oh when will you get it? For the past 10 months, professional politicians from both parties have been doing nothing but hurling invective at Barack Obama.
It doesn’t work. People lose elections doing it. Hillary Clinton lost one. John McCain lost another.
And people who keep trying to do it will continue to have most of the voting public turn a deaf ear to them.
What is bad about it is not just the clearly addictive character of the invective itself, which is such a rush that it obliterates reality testing and the political feedback loop. It is also the neglect of political fundamentals that it encourages.
Obama won the election because he campaigned better. Period.
He raised more money; he put more volunteeers on the phone banks, on the e-mail lists, and on the streets; and he turned them into a well-disciplined, highly motivated, cadre of professionals almost overnight.
He didn’t bother trashing McCain personally because he didn’t need to, and he himself had already demonstrated, in reverse, that it was not effective. Throughout the campaign, Obama was far more gracious to everybody than anybody was to him, and he won in a landslide by being so.
If there is any future in the Republican Party, it is probably embodied in Senator Norm Coleman. In the middle of all the mudslingling, he figured out that it wasn’t working, and he stopped it.
It looks as if he won re-election by stopping it, unless the recount tells us otherwise.
A word to the wise…
Great piece Kyle Anne . . . as always! You nailed it again. The “new tone” of the Republican moderates cost us the election. If only Sarah ran as the Presidential candidate. This would have been a certain win over the Fraud. Maybe the blue-blood republicans will now go into obscurity and we can get back to our Reagan roots of a conservative party. It’s what put Bobby J. in the governorship in Louisiana and it can be done again.
Wow! So well said. Whenever McCain said, he’d “reach across the aisle” I began shouting at my television. Once Obama called him “John” he should have pointed it out and called him “Barack.” What McCain doesn’t understand is that the Left is essentially sociopathic; they do not think the way we do. They have no sense of graciousness, or respect for other opinions. They are all about power. The ignorant masses respect that, as they did in Germany in the 1930s.
Obama,
We are spreading the word to destroy this frauds presidency! We’ll do exactly what the Media and the Libs did to Bush the last 8 years.
Frauds eventually show themselves, it is just a matter of time. I am sad for all the white guilt liberals, so naive and gullable.
McCain stepped into the ring intent on fighting by the Marquis of Queensbury rules. But in this match, the ref was bought and paid for long ago, and the opponent entered with a baseball bat with spikes, whose only rules were those of the Marxist Alinsky, that is, no rules whatsoever.
There is no way to win that match.
More neo-con babble. This tripe is why you lost.
John McCain proved one thing during his campaign: that he couldn’t organize a wet dream. As a man with a military background, it was remarkable that he clearly did not understand the difference strategy and tactic. His whole campaign was built on a parade of reactive tactics that searched for seams in Obama’s armor. The seams that McCain did find were the kind that voters felt were irrelevant, yet McCain and his imbecilic running-mate continued to hit on one after another, day after day. McCain showed that he is more of a Sad Sack than a Patton, and that’s why he lost the election. Whatever graciousness he exhibited in his concession speech was through clinched teeth and with visible anger about his loss. Clearly, the man blames everybody else for something which his own ineptness brought about. What is shocking is the lack of graciousness in McCain’s dejected supporters. These people, such as “John” here, would put the nation at risk out of their own rage about the election result. It’s the same “us vs them” mentality that the electorate rejected on November 4th. Some people are too dim to realize that’s a big reason why their candidate lost the election. A majority of the country is sick to death of partisan, ideology-driven hatred and the whole liberal vs conservative sandbox scuffle. Then again, if you supported a candidate who graduated 894th in a class of 899, you’re probably not bright enough to figure any of that out.
When Larry King asked John McCain less than a week before the election whether he believed Barack Obama was a socialist, McCain firmly answered, “No.”
“In fact, he should have said, “Verily, I do not know what Barack Obama is and neither does anyone else, except perhaps the man himself.”
To which McCain might have added for extra flourish — and perhaps hundreds of thousands of votes for himself:
“If he walks like a socialist, and quacks like a socialist, then there is very good reason to assume that he is a socialist.”
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He should have said that as recently as 1996 Obama was a member of The New Party, a Chicago-based socialist party. I doubt that McCain even knew that.
It wasn’t just graciousness that did McCain in, but incompetence. He could have laid the Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac debacle at the feet of the Democrats, however, he lacked the skills to do so. How many voters know that Clinton Deputy Attorney General Jamie Gorelick of 9/11 firewallfame was paid $50 million in bonuses as a director of Fannie Mae?
$50 million doled out from the public purse for what? Not doing her job in spectacular fashion. She should have been the pinup girl for Democratic Party incompetence and thievery and yet McCain didn’t mention her name
in the campaign even once so far as I am aware. Nor did he point out the fact that Barack Obama received more hush money from Fannie Mae per hour of service than any other politician.
I think McCain fundamentally misunderstood the vitrol and derangement aimed at him by the media and Obama. He assumed that the campaign shouldn’t cross certain lines, because let’s face facts, no campaign in recent history has been this cruel. McCain was fighting an uphill battle and was fighting it with dignity and class.
Obama had the media and a few other useful idiots humping his leg and acting like he was the Second Coming. Once Obama got the nomination, I told a friend that whoever was facing him was going to face an uphill battle and was probably not going to win.
The Obama Presidency was bought and paid for by the media, his mysterious donors, and a vastly uninformed public. (“Who’s Vladmir Putin?”, “What’s the big deal about Darfur? – questions I was asked by people who should know better) Hope he can live up to all the Messianic expectations. But let’s face facts – ain’t gonna happen, but G-d, it’ll be fun!
The problem for McCain was that Barack Obama does not walk or quack like a socialist. None of his tax policies are even close to socialism. What’s much closer to socialism was the +$800 billion bail-out plan passed by Congress, which John McCain supported.
Douglas:
It is almost as if the Republican nomination was McCain’s real objective. He had no problems telling lies about Romney, but could not (bring himself to) tell the truth about Obama.
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Bingo, (as amended.
Being a liberal I sincerely hope that in 2012 the Republicans run an “ungracious” campaign as many suggest here. It will guarantee another 4 years for our guy.
“He didn’t bother trashing McCain personally because he didn’t need to, and he himself had already demonstrated, in reverse, that it was not effective. Throughout the campaign, Obama was far more gracious to everybody than anybody was to him, and he won in a landslide by being so.”
Obama had no need to dirty his hands with attacking anyone – he had the media and his lunatic supporters to do his dirty work.
Add to that a generation of voters raised in the PC mode of “don’t hurt anyone’s feelings” and “it’s not nice to say mean things” what else could we expect? That people might actually take a critical look at Obama vice voting for him based on feel-good squiahy emotional reasons?
Sorry, Kyle-Anne…I have written to many friends that you are a new shining star on the horizon and have agreed with prior articles and written glowing comments about them, on this one, hopefully as friends, we part company.
Gov. Palin energized the base, but this win had to swing the 45% of people who identified as moderates or centrists (the largest identified group…by far) and the calm demeanor and soft temperament “persona” of Senator Obama was having an effect, even on typically staunch Republicans, forget the masses in the middle. (we can rattle off all the folks who “left the reservation, but it shouldn’t be necessary)
In addition, one of the criticisms leveled at Senator McCain was the polar opposite character trait. A quick and volatile temper, or as Senator Lindsey Graham said, “coming off as grumpy old men”.
I think it was a response to these conditions on the ground that made him consciously pull some punches.
There is nothing wrong with graciousness in the concession speech, it was the absolute right tone to set. There is nothing wrong with graciousness from those who are watching the acts and deeds going forward, instead of lapsing into a mirroring of leftist derangement of the past 8 years.
Senator McCain did not lose because he was gracious, he lost because of these other factors:
1)The entrenched media rigged the coverage of the election and the vast majority of people who get their “information” outside of non-leftist blogs…got banana republic coverage of the candidates. Third world press coverage, totalitarian “fairness”, promotional propaganda. EVERYTHING else stems from here. This is ground zero.
2)President Bush was an albatross around the neck of every Republican, and no less at the top of the ticket than at the bottom. Minnesota has come very close to becoming a worldwide humiliation to themselves and this country. Was the treatment of President Bush “fair” for the past 8 years? Please see paragraph 1 above.
3)President-elect Obama was allowed to raise funds in an uncontrolled and unprecedented manner. When an opponent can outspend you 5, 6, 7 to 1….especially in swing states, your climb will be steep. Nobody with power to make that an issue, said a peep. Either about the impact on the election, or about turning off the safeguards that would have monitored the ability to cheat the system with foreign money and restrictions on individual contributions. Please see paragraph 1 above.
4)The economy. Until Joe the Plumber, the way the issues related to the economy were handled in the McCain camp reminded me of a fly at a BBQ. Flitting from one idea to the next, alternately giving away funds like candy, then not explaining the mortgate meltdown, then fumbling why he wanted to take a day off the campaign to work on the crisis. Remember though, he had to raise, articulate and persuade the MIDDLE (not the base, Gov. Palin had them covered, and not the firmly implanted opposition…nothing would convince them), that HE had an answer to the economy. He had to do this alone, because….see Paragraph 1.
5)The war on terror: Iraq and Afghanistan should have been his strong points. He talked about nothing other than he supported the surge. He repeated it so often, it began to sound like he was suffering from Tourette’s. There were so many issues, even softballs handed to him …attacking NE Pakistan, logistic impossibilities of pulling out of Iraq in a ridiculous timetable, the original “regime change” legislation by the Democrats in Iraq citing the dangers, ….he would have had to do this alone….Please see Paragraph 1.
6)Lack of records submitted, lack of documentation, lack of vetting: Senator Obama submitted less information about his background than any candidate in history. Less than would have been needed to apply for a position as a postal worker. Senator Obama’s campaign was based upon the “feel good” image, the charm and deportment, the charisma and speech delivery, in essence…the intoxicating “persona”. Bright as a bonfire, deep as a thimble.
Voters got intoxicated, then voted under the influence. Senator McCain needed to start issuing VUI’s. To Chris Buckley, to Kathleen Parker, to the MIDDLE…before they swerved to the ballots on election day. There was no way to OBTAIN the evidence necessary to properly vet the Democratic candidate for the highest office in the land, but it should have been a much larger issue than it was. Please see Paragraph 1, for the complete dereliction of duty to a public trust.
McCain’s problem was substance, not style. What are his core principles? He’s unquestionably a patriot, but one with questionable commitment to the Constitution. He was an unreliable political ally. He has no experience of, and little respect for free markets.
I voted for the man solely because any judicial picks he would make would be better than Obama’s. He lost because his base didn’t turn out for him. He didn’t give them much reason to.
His gratuitous praise for the opposition, and his standing silent while his own campaign staff smears his running mate makes me now question why I wasted even ten minutes voting for this guy. Thanks for your service, Senator. It’s time for you to go.
Frankly, if Reagan had been raised from the dead and were the GOP candidate, the outcome would have been the same.
The GOP was given its chance 4 years ago to show what it could do. It blew it and properly got booted. Now it’s the left’s turn to show the American people that they’ve even more incompetent and venal, and I’m sure they’ll succeed splendidly at that.
Meanwhile, just to kill time, we shouldn’t waste time on what McCain did wrong but rather on what the enemy did right. And in deployment of the web, grassroots mobilization, campaign discipline, defining the central issue, (Want more Bush?), they shellacked us. And just as Obama, a personable nobody with no resume but a very fishy past, was so carefully tended and groomed, so must we with Sarah Palin.
That’s in case Sarah isn’t completely fed up with the lower 48 and I wouldn’t blame her if she was, she should assume the role of government in exile, be the voice we listen to down here in occupied America. Frankly, if Reagan had been raised from the dead and were the GOP candidate, the outcome would have been the same.
The GOP was given its chance 4 years ago to show what it could do. It blew it and properly got booted. Now it’s the left’s turn to show the American people that they’ve even more incompetent and venal, and I’m sure they’ll succeed splendidly at that.
Meanwhile, just to kill time, we shouldn’t waste time on what McCain did wrong but rather on what the enemy did right. And in deployment of the web, grassroots mobilization, campaign discipline, defining the central issue, (Want more Bush?), they shellacked us. And just as Obama, a personable nobody with no resume but a very fishy past, was so carefully tended and groomed, so must we with Sarah Palin.
That’s in case Sarah isn’t completely fed up with the lower 48 and I wouldn’t blame her if she was, she should assume the role of government in exile, being the voice we listen to down here in occupied America. But like I say, she might decide that Alaskan independence is an easier undertaking.
Lastly, we know who the snakes, rats and weasels are who surrounded her campaign, or we will soon. We need to know who proved themselves to be gold. There must have been some. Get them working for ’1
Lastly, we know who the snakes, rats and weasels are who surrounded her campaign, or we will soon. We need to know who proved themselves to be gold. There must have been a few. Get them working for ’12.
Someone I can’t remember said it best, “People voted for a pretty, rainbow-colored soap bubble”. When it pops, they are going to be so disappointed.
Show me one example in history when a Republican failed due to being too aggressive. Reagan showed that you can be aggressive and cordial at the same time. We need someone who can replicate that combination of aggression and affability. Cantor? Jindal? Buhler?? The Republicans have less than four years to find a new generation of Young Turks with long knives.
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Frankly, if Reagan had been raised from the dead and were the GOP candidate, the outcome would have been the same.
The GOP was given its chance 4 years ago to show what it could do. It blew it and properly got booted. Now it’s the left’s turn to show the American people that they’ve even more incompetent and venal, and I’m sure they’ll succeed splendidly at that.
Meanwhile, just to kill time, we shouldn’t waste time on what McCain did wrong but rather on what the enemy did right. And in deployment of the web, grassroots mobilization, campaign discipline, defining the central issue, (Want more Bush?), they shellacked us. And just as Obama, a personable nobody with no resume but a very fishy past, was so carefully tended and groomed, so must we with Sarah Palin.
That’s in case Sarah isn’t completely fed up with the lower 48 and I wouldn’t blame her if she was. But if she’s still willing, she should assume the role of government in exile, be the voice we listen to down here in occupied America. But like I say, she might decide that Alaskan independence is an easier undertaking.
Lastly, we know who the snakes, rats and weasels are who surrounded her campaign, or we will soon. We need to know who proved themselves to be gold. There must have been a few. Get them working for ‘12.
It is truly very simple. People wanted a black american as the next president. McCain could of been nasty and dishonest but it would not matter. Obama’s history was out there for all of us to see. Some people chose to see it others did not. Now we will truly see what he is all about.
We didn’t want a gracious loser, we wanted a gracious winner. For someone that had an arsenal of weapons and an opponent with no background, no experience, friends that were terrorists and kooks, he was a loser going in, he was a compromiser, he was a General McClellan who had it all except the drive to win at all costs; when we needed a Grant or Sherman he just couldn’t come up with what it would have taken. He seemed to be afraid of what his pals the Democrats would say if he was mean to Obama and tell the truth. He’s a pal of Kennedy and was promoted by the New York Times, he was afraid of being a conservative and now he has the accolades of the Democrats for being a ‘nice guy’ and we’re stuck with Obama for four years. If he cared for his country he’d of committed seppuku and let Palin take over. No more of this wannabe Conservative stuff anymore, we need and the country needs someone who cares for, loves this country and thinks it the best in the world. Another Harry Truman or Ronald Reagan’s, do dopplegangers please.
“Senator McCain did not lose because he was gracious, he lost because of these other factors:”
You forgot to mention John McCain’s politically correct mindset. The color of Barack Obama’s skin intimidated him. McCain was always afraid of being charged with racism. The election was essentially over when he refused to justly criticize Obama for his twenty year relationship with Rev. Jeremiah Wright. Also, can anyone imagine Obama doing likewise if the situation was reversed? Nope, not in a million years.
The result can be easily summed up, IMO:
“Nice guys finish last.” – Leo Durocher
He lost because his campaign can be sumarized as follows: Lipstick on a Pig, Pit Bull, Maverick, Joe the Plumber, Bridge to Nowher, Ayers, Jeremiah Wright, $150K expenditure on Clothes, Terrorist, Muslim, We can see Rusia from our Window, That One, Gotcha, Bush Doctrine, and “Wink”. What did his campaign offer to the middle class? Nothing. Goodbye and good night.
One last thing, Kyle-Anne. Perhaps the toughest hurdle that anyone faced, in the contest against Senator Obama, was the implied promise of absolution.
The so-called “race card” was a sword and a shield plugged into a post-modern electricity source that supercharged it, and left a steady undercurrent with a steady hum, ready to zap anyone who dared to touch it.
Talk about Wright? Racist. Talk about Ayers. Racist. The sword was readied and there were enough preemptive strikes that it was never placed in the scabbard, but was always held unsheathed.
And, to be honest…there IS something wonderful that it says about us as a people when we can point out that NO other predominantly white country in the history of the world has elected a black man as their leader. None. Zip. Zero. Nada. That fact, standing alone…is pretty heady stuff.
Given the dynamic of the “perfect storm” in my comment at #32 above, combined with this “yearning” to “prove” the falsity of the negative, it would have taken someone with monumental powers of persuasion, articulation, and mastery of facts to overcome them. John McCain is many things, just not those things.
Finally, the entrenched media was not going to let anyone but Senator Obama win this election. They would trash every ethic, they would surrender every moral, they would abandon every last bit of conscience and honor…and they did. They were not going to let anyone else win this election.
They cheapened us as a nation by doing so. They sold out every last shred of credibility. The contest wasn’t fairly won, and that’s a damn shame. Had it been, there would be no tarnish on what President-elect Obama won for us. A chance to show the world, that we might have done the very same anyway. Now…we’ll never know.
The MSM slandered Palin and McCain said nothing… but McCain is an honorable man.
Nicole Williams slandered Palin and McCain said nothing… but McCain is an honorable man.
Romney’s staff slandered Palin and McCain said nothing… but McCain is an hono..
Forget it, McCain is a lowlife. He just threw away the one thing no one could take from him, his honorable reputation. He may as well join the dem party because his lack of morals is a perfect match with them.
American Idol Rocks
Obama 08, Obama 08. Isnt being a socialist great?
Well said Kyle-Anne, finally, someone “gets it”. cfbleachers list of reasons is all well and good (and accurate in so far as it goes) but it was McCain’s egomaniacally based stupidity and incompetence that cost him this election. Yes, he didn’t want to be too “gruff”, yes he insisted on being gracious, yes he was determined on reaching across the aisle (what is with THAT?), yes the economy surely didn’t help, but what he really could not figure out was what is tactically and strategically important. That goes to JohnRJ08′s comment. Now while most of what RJ08 says is bone-bendingly ignorant he does point out that McCain was 894 out of a class of 899. That fact alone indicates that McCain quite simply is not the sharpest knife in the drawer. The way McCain campaigned reinforces this conclusion in spades. The half-witted liberal trolls that insist that the Republicans lost because they ran a “negative campaign” when what the independent/centrist voter wanted was an upbeat message exhibits nothing more the squishy left’s own shallow thinking. McCain’s campaign was no more negative than Obama’s. But he needed to forcefully counter the bald-faced lies of the Obama campaign, showcase the flawed character of both Obama and Obama’s associates, and counter the blind worship of this unknown man by the uneducated and incurious segment of the voting population–white guilt ridden liberals and blacks. To be sure it was going to be difficult in the first place given MSM bias and malfeasance but McCain was just never up to the task.
Hey, cool. Pajamas Media is the new Democratic Underground for the right wing.
How can anybody who paid attention to this election think that John McCain was a “nice guy”. He suggested that his opponent was a socialist, a terrorist sympathizer, and a mysterious unknown that wasn’t to be trusted, then he unleashed his pitbull in designer suits and Prada accessories. I mean, what would McCain have had to say to be called a “mean guy”? McCain lost the election for many reasons, but the biggest single factor was a lack of intelligence. When you get right down to it, he simply didn’t make any smart decisions in his entire campaign. Picking an illiterate throwback to the 1950′s who didn’t even have a passport until four years ago as his running-mate was his first boo-boo. After that, it was a campaign lurching around, trying to find personal vulnerabilities in the opponent, rather than positioning himself properly. The only thing that McCain stood for was a long list of distortions and exaggerations about Barack Obama, which the voters rejected on November 4th. As Forrest Gump said, “Stupid is as stupid does.” As long as Republicans whine about McCain and continue to attack the winner of the elections, they will be diverted from looking at the real problems in their party and figuring out a way to remain a viable political movement in the future.
I am, no doubt, not a good supporter for this type of thinking. To me, Republicans represented the worst of petty, small thinking for the last decade plus.
That is why the approval rating is so low.
It’s over.
So had McCain taken the tack that so many wished?
History into the “Whig” type oblivion.
We’re done with Republican presidents who think they are above the law. We’re done with Republican right-wing ideology who reduce everything to some moral issue. We’re done with ignoring the obvious, such as failure to even deliver water to New Orleans. That was what the Republican agenda, gone wild, got the country. There is not a single reason why anyone should doubt the low ratings for Bush. 17% approval. That absolutely declares: You’re on the fringe if you think this type of governing worked.
So spare me the “McCain wasn’t mean enough” crapola.
McCain opened the door for the party to see how to rebuild, how to expand the tent, and what the real issues are.
Either walk through it or don’t.
But….I can guarantee you, the vote would have been a true landslide had McCain followed the advice of “Play the Wright” racecard.
Nobody with half a working brain hadn’t seen those tapes.
It did not move them.
Get it?
It did not move them.
That was NOT the problem. The message about Obama’s roots was well disseminated.
It did not make voters change their minds in the end.
I personally think this election was lost because of the huge personal impact of Bush’s policies on real families.
They simply wanted a huge change. They don’t have faith in Obama, either. But they felt they had to do something different.
Bush was a failure.
He created a complete and awful situation.
McCain couldn’t have won this if he looked like Romney.
Interesting. Except for a couple knee-jerk responses, I agree with everyone here. All the reasoned arguments are correct… on both sides! McCain lost for all the given reasons.
Mostly, it was the entrenched media. You can’t counter an hour-long promotion with a 30-second ad. If the media doesn’t follow up on the charges you bring forth, but rather, pooh-pooh them and jump to Obama’s defense and call you a grumpy old man, you can’t win.
Well, you can. McCain had taken the lead after the conventions, and the lead was growing daily. Then the proverbial financial feces hit the rotating blade device. Somehow, the Pubs got tagged with the blame. The media again. No proper analysis. Ignorant electorate. Reagan might have won in that situation… in his second term. Remember, he was neck-and-neck with Carter until the last week (the debate), and Carter was as unpopular as Bush and the economy was worse.
The only chance Mac had was to flip PA, and it should’ve worked, but the people there were just too stupid to understand what Obama thought of them and what his plans would do to them.
McCain lost because he offered nothing but the same failed policies of bush, and had a grossly unqualified VP, and was erratic and unsteady about the economy. it is not the ideology of McCain and bush that voters rejected, it is the fact that it is not helping or working for 95% of Americans and we need real change. If political pundits think they can still tell us to ignore our eyes, ears, and communities and listen to propaganda and everything will be fine, then they nee dto wake up and smell reality.
“…but it was McCain’s egomaniacally based stupidity and incompetence that cost him this election.”
And never forget the political correctness! The odds were always in the favor of a solid Republican conservative to beat Barack Obama! He should have been easily defeated. Unfortunately, McCain refused to really go after him early in the campaign. Once again, this is especially true regarding Rev. Wright. Mitt Romney would have particularly impressed the American voters with his knowledge on economic matters. The former Massachusetts governor also knew that he had few friends in the legacy media—and that he must rally conservatives. Romney would have won on election Day by about five percentage points.
Joshus
Well enjoy PM while you can. The fascists will soon shut it down. There can be no disagreement with the party line in the new changed socialist America. Besides PM represents a threat to the propaganda organ of the left, know as M$M
I have to say, there have been some fairly good comments in response to this piece…(Suzi aside). For me, I wouldnt have voted for McCain had it not been for the Palin pick. Even then I was somewhat hesitant as I felt McCain needed some economy-minded running mate. It IS the economy, stupid.
Michigan? Give up on them. After all, they are in a Democrat run state, with 10% unemployment and a million people leaving a year. They must want change. Palin knocks them out of the park at the convention; even the MSM picks up on it. Keep her sequestered for the next few weeks. Democrat run Congress with the lowest rating in history? Don’t mention it. Did you know John McCain was a POW? Hey, I’m going to go to D.C. and save the country. Not one word asking Obama to join him! Quite honestly, with the erratic behavior McCain has shown during this past year, if he was my Grandfather, I might let him drive, but I sure as hell wouldn’t ride with him. And apparently the American people felt the same way.
petena:
He lost because his campaign can be sumarized as follows: Lipstick on a Pig, Pit Bull, Maverick, Joe the Plumber, Bridge to Nowher, Ayers, Jeremiah Wright, $150K expenditure on Clothes, Terrorist, Muslim, We can see Rusia from our Window, That One, Gotcha, Bush Doctrine, and “Wink”. What did his campaign offer to the middle class? Nothing. Goodbye and good night.
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Yeah right. All that lost to… get ready… drum roll: Hope and Change.
When was the last time you voted GOP? Be honest.
“Romney’s staff slandered Palin…”
Is that a fact or a rumor (an unsubstantiated allegation)
Reading these types of talk-back forums, I just love to see the most vindictive, derisive and least tolerant among us lecture those who disagree with them about being hateful. But, I voted against Obama, so I must be an ignorant racist right? What do I know?
The media and news TV punditry ran defense for the Messiah, the All-Merciful Lord Obama during this “historic” election. This, and McCain’s weak campaign is why he won. Period. I, for one, am happy he won. Wish him all the best, and I hope he doesn’t screw things up too bad.
Kyle-Ann Shriver is absolutely correct. John McCain –a supposed fan of Teddy Roosevelt– walked softly and carried a wet rubber noodle during this election. He was more interested in the myth of so-called “bi-partisanship” than in standing up for what he believed in –or in representing his constituents for that matter. Ok, give him extra-credit for “graciousness.” Graciousness in losing, however, does not win elections.
Obama, for his part, isn’t interested in “bi-partisanship” or graciousness for that matter. He does not, nor has he ever, cared about listening to people who disagree with him. Dissention to a liberal = treason. His is a life lived in a bubble, filled with like-minded intellectuals and sycophants who tell him he is the “one.”
But he’s not the “one,” he is a politician and believe me Obama the politician will screw up along the way –that much is certain. He’ll provide plenty of opportunity for his dissenters to seize the moment and define him. The question will be whether or not we’ll have politicians on our side with the balls to take advantage of these opportunities as they present themselves.
George Bush will be gone soon, thankfully, and the “one” will be coronated, I mean inaugurated. Shouldn’t we wait to start this fight until then? NOPE. Fifty six million people voted AGAINST Barack Obama and we have but 3 years to increase that number. The time to begin is NOW.
“It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people’s minds.” – Samuel Adams
KentT writes:
“The result can be easily summed up, IMO: ‘Nice guys finish last.’ – Leo Durocher”
..he also said, “Show me a good loser and I’ll show you an idiot.”
My personal favorite (and one that is applicable here, from Vince Lombardi, “Show me a good loser and I’ll show you a loser.”
Good article, good comments but let’s move on.
I would beg to differ from you. I believe the McCain/Palin ticket a divisive campaign. He was gracious only in the concession speech.
Roomy Naqvy
http://roomynaqvy.blogspot.com/
http://issuesinacademics.blogspot.com/
I voted for John McCain for entirely negative reasons. It was only the vicious Democrat and media ( but I repeat myself ) campaign that convinced me that McCain, bad as he was, was far superior to Obama. I swore from April to October that I would vote “none of the above”. Obama finally drove me into the McCain camp.
We have elected as President a Chicago machine politician, and not a particularly good one. His first appointment, of Rahm Emmanuel, is of another Chicago machine politician, and a very good one. The city that brought us Al Capone, has with about the same integrity and morality, brought us Barack Obama. We might get a second Carter administration, but it is more likely we are going to get the first Daley administration.
John McCain lost because he was John McCain. He would rather work with Teddy Kennedy than George Bush and he has given us a Kennedy style crook in the White House. He lost not because he was gracious, but because he was far more gracious to his opponents than to his supporters.
McCain was no gentlemen. He knew that attacking Obama’s character or associations would open his OWN life to a level of scrutiny it could not withstand.
Obama could have nailed him on his “war record,” his infidelity, and his relations with Keating, G. Gordon Liddy and a host of religious loons.
It would have been an invitation to a nuclear smackdown. And you’ll notice the McCain campaign really started to go soft right after the “Florida Flame” story came out. Nothing is more appealing to Americans than a privileged brat who likes to chase strippers, even after he’s married.
Why do we need complicated explanations. McCain was old, cranky, unexciting, uncharismatic and felt like a cold white cadaver hand reaching up to drag the US back to the 1950s. Then, of course, he chose Madame Boo-Boo as his running mate, which pretty much queered his appeal to anyone with a brain.
MacCain wasn’t “too nice” to win. He was a lousy candidate, and he didn’t represent what America wants in 2008.
How can you say the media was in the tank for Obama? McCain used to joke that the media was his base. The media adored McCain. If you really read the accounts (like Ana Marie Cox or Maeve Reston) from those covering his campaign.
Once they started to freeze the media out in the wake of Palin, that’s when the tides started to turn. Media got a bit fussy about their new status from “his base” to “in the tank for.”
petena hits it right on the nose with McCain’s campaign “issues.”
@56 — look at what you wrote. Compare the words “hope” and “change” with McCain’s campaign words. People in America are looking for something positive. Obama’s words were positive, those from McCain surrogates were not.
And I’m not alluding to the fact that unless you use pretty, flowery, positive words, you cannot run an effective campaign. When you look at how some of the slurs thrown against Obama actually worked via the polls, it turns out that they didn’t work across the electorate.
The only non-BS arguments for why McCain lost are these: Bush, Economy, Wars, Palin as VP-select and a campaign that could stay tight and focused on a message.
Say what you want about Obama, but he beat the Clinton machine and ran a tight, calm ship.
Whether people voted FOR Obama or AGAINST McCain, what resonated was how Obama handled himself…
JohnRJ08:
John McCain proved one thing during his campaign: that he couldn’t organize a wet dream. As a man with a military background, it was remarkable that he clearly did not understand the difference strategy and tactic. His whole campaign was built on a parade of reactive tactics that searched for seams in Obama’s armor. The seams that McCain did find were the kind that voters felt were irrelevant, yet McCain and his imbecilic running-mate continued to hit on one after another, day after day.
Pretty good read. All through his political life, John McCain has shunned having a clear philosophy and strategic vision. Always, he posed as the fighter jock going on his noble, inerrant “gut instinct” and self-righteous condemnation of opponents who never suffered and fought for love of country like he did. Always, he claimed moral high ground because he suffered!! gave him the right to be angry and condemn all those that questioned his “deals” with Democrats, Big Business donors, Bush. The public finally saw the guy exposed as an incoherent dimbulb who no doubt wished he could cross, shake Barack’s hand and work out a power-sharing deal, a la Senate cloakroom style.
Sarah Palin may not be an imbecilic running mate, but objectively, until more is known of her, she is simply an insult-spewing attack dog with little education and experience, parachuted in without vetting. And for every Right-Winger that now worships her as they once worshipped George Wallace, Pitchfork Pat, Spiro Agnew – Palin proved herself (based on exit polls) completely toxic to hispanics, independent women, Jews – who know a demagogue when they see one – and was a big liability at the end of the campaign.
That she “energized the base” and should run for President is the same thing said of “base-energizers” in the Democrat Party by fans of the likes of Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Chuck Schumer, John Edwards. Who delight Republicans when they do feed off their adulation and run because like Palin, it is obvious for every person they strongly attract – they strongly or mildly repel 2-3 people.
Now as we see the “Cult of Our Sarah” arise, about how an unknown telegenic lady who gave a good stump speech and not much else and became a Right Wing Goddess and a superb Commander in Chief somehow…I only feel the mane nausea I feel when I watch the Left Wing construct their own undeserving objects of Cult Worship.
Glenn Greenwald, master pundit and arbitrator of all matters Left.
The Cult of Noam Chomsky, he who is as pure in intent as a Hockey Mom. An MIT pitbull with chapstick and Birkenstocks.
The Cult of Mumia the cop-killer, a plucky black man who is telegenic and charismatic and like Palin – comes from the “non-elites” who know better than those big snooty prestigious college types.
The Cult of the Lacrosse Rape Victim, or as Palin would call her, “Precious the Prostitute”. A hard-working woman propelled into the headlines then trashed by many people, while being defended by her instant, hyper-emotional Femimist and Black fans…who of course also proposed her for future high office as symbol of their love and fandom for her.
Sorry you lost. I suggest you begin drinking heavily.
“I mean, what would McCain have had to say to be called a ‘mean guy’?”
Yeah, that about sums it up.
McCain lost, not because he was gracious, but because he is a symptom of what is wrong with the Republican Party. Republicans abandoned their small-government philosophy, and now the voters have abandoned them. It’s that simple. In opposition to Obama’s socialism, McCain offered us socialism-lite. The voters decided why buy an imitation when you can have the real deal?
For the past eight years Republicans have been acting like socialism could work just fine, as long as we let them run the economy. Guess what? It didn’t! It can’t, regardless of who runs it. Republicans need to contemplate that for the next two years, and come back in 2010 with a better philosophy.
I always enjoy reading anything written by Kyle-Anne, including this piece. However, I think the reasons extend far beyond the one Kyle-Anne focuses on and have been articulated well by several bloggers, including media bias, fundraising gap, lack of GOP support, coming off of 8 years of a president with a low approval rating, economic collapse and public blame on Bush, Obama’s well oiled and corrupt campaign machine, a weak and confused message from McCain throughout his campaign, a poorly run campaign that was disorganized and didn’t capitalize on 21st century technology, increased Dem registration with a flat Republican registration, a condondrum of needing to capture the most conservative base while also needing moderates, and the mixed blessing of Sarah Palin, to name a few other issues.
I agree that we needed a Patton. But, I also felt and still feel that Obama’s campaign was like a roaring train that started pulling out of the station early in the year and which was unstopable, due in part to the chilling reality of media bias that just wouldn’t quit.
It was the perfect storm and I don’t know that anyone could have done anything that would have resulted in a different outcome. For whatever number of reasons, the public didn’t know enough, and when they did, they seemed not to care.
Pray tell once again why McCain is a war hero? Was it because he was shot down and crashed planes 4x? Was it because he was called McNasty in high school and dumped his first wife after her accident and decided he needed a prettier, richer woman? Was it because McNasty described his new pathetic drug addicted wife as a trollope and used the C word to describe her?
I know the meaning of the word hero and gentleman. I have known many of them in my 76 years on the Planet Earth. Your gracious old fool is neither hero nor gentleman!
McCain was being “gracious” when he called Obama a terrorist, a socialist, un-American? Thank the lord he did not become rough under your standards!
Dear Ms. Shiver,
Partisan Democrats must surely be encouraged by your column, as it presents a strategy that would surely keep the Republicans in the minority for many years to come. The idea that McCain should have beat the “Obama is a socialist” drum when he was on Larry King’s show is just hilarious. The public is not nearly as stupid as you seem to think, and they see that it is just silly to argue that moving the top tax rate back to where it was in 2000 is tantamount to socialism.
The wing-nut talking points you refer to, such as Obama’s “Muslim history” convinced few beyond the wing-nuts who repeat such BS, and these will be far less effective when Obama runs for re-election.
Your premise is so nutty that I suspect that you might be an undercover left-wing partisan trying to sabotage the Republicans.
The fact is that McCain’s graciousness and willingness to work for the benefit of his country instead of his party is the only thing that kept the race so close.
you all picked him!
so STFU!
LoL
Wonder if anyone else has wondered if McCain “threw” the election? (or if not him, the Repubs)
… better not, that way lies madness and conspiracy theory…
McCain made just about the best speech of his campaign when he conceded. That’s why everyone is telling you that but apparently the fact that your candidate can make a gracious and compelling speech sends you into paroxysms of anger and denial. The fact is McCain and his surrogates threw just about everything they could at Obama including good old Jeremiah, I was watching the ads every night, and none of it stuck. Why? Easy. Most middle of the road people didn’t think Obama’s passing acquaintance with Ayer or the fact that he had a pastor that was about as nutty as Palin’s was particularly important. They wouldn’t have thought so in the best of times and in middle of the biggest financial crisis since the depression it seemed doubly so. Secondly, they liked Obama, they thought he was a nice guy. In fact they thought he was a nicer guy than McCain. The consequence was the more dirt got thrown at him the more his approvals went up. Despite the complete failure of this slash and burn strategy there are obviously many in the GOP to maintain a policy of max attack and obstruction. To such I can only say you are courting disaster. This guy is an outstanding political talent and violently phrased obstruction is going to play right into his hands. Remember Gingrich and the govt shutdown. It’s time to start growing up Ms Shiver.
Uh . . . am I dreaming? Does anyone here actually believe McCain was a “gentleman” and behaved “graciously” during the campaign? The McCain camp ran the majority of the negative ads. The McCain camp stood by and did nothing as psychos screamed “kill him” at their rallies.
Either Kyle-Anne has the shortest memory ever, or she’s too stupid to understand the world around her. Either way, this is bogus. Obama was the one who refused to even dignify McCain’s pathetic smear attempts with a response. McCain took the gutter approach, Obama took the high road. And guess what? The voters made the final call.
There is nothing in the least enigmatic about Barack Obama. You think because you can’t find any evidence of depth that it has been hidden. In reality, it isn’t there. Enormous self regard is who he is. That’s all.
Paul B.:
“All he had to do was listen to his own supporters – such as the guy who was angry at the socialism overtaking the nation.”
My recollection is that he didn’t wait even a day to return to the “reach across the aisle” drivel. I seem to remember McCain’s response was something like: I hear your anger. And that’s why I promise to get back to Washington and reach across the aisle and work with our opponents to find solutions…blah blah blah.
McCain was incapable of hearing what he didn’t want to hear. I think McCain, long ago, formed an impenetrable ego-defense built around being “gracious,” “honorable,” etc. These appear to be “virtues” that trump everything else–even common sense and truthfulness. Somehow, if you are kind and gentle with your enemies, that’s what makes you “honorable” even in the act of telling LIES. Lies such as: Obama is not a socialist. Obama is not a crook. Obama is a “good man.” (Yeah–a “good man” who fought tooth and nail to keep the killing of BORN BABIES going in Illinois.)
Personally, I think there’s something to the theory that McCain was damaged irreparably at the Hanoi Hilton–a kind of deep-seated Stockholm Syndrome. And I think it’s telling that the “virtue” he flatters himself for having is “honor”–a “military” virtue. I suspect he has father issues, bigtime.
Now McCain’s flaws are water under the bridge.
McCain took a dive. The Republican elite took a dive. Huckabee stayed in in order to defeat Romney.
Sarah Palin had nothing to do with any of the machinations during the primaries. And she has absolutely NO ties to the “old money” Northeastern Repubicans, the Rockefeller Repubicans, the pro-abortion Repubicans.
Palin-Jindal 2012.
One of the reasons I couldn’t vote for McCain is that his campaign was so stupidly negative. If he had spoken like he did in his concession speech throughout his campaign and not had Palin as his running mate, I think he would have stood a good chance of winning. Sure, he would have lost some of his base, which Palin was meant to solidify. She did that, but it was demonstrated that the election could be won without it. I think many moderates and undecideds would have voted for McCain if his campaign had not veered off into “palling around with terrorists” territory. Many of us admired him greatly in 2000 and he did have an edge with his experience and his past history of bucking his party. But when McCain bowed to the right wing of his party and brought Palin on board he lost us in the long run.
Don’t know who Obama is yet?! Will rummaging through his dresser and sniffing his underwear finally satisfy you?
craig:
Down the Drain with B. Hussein!
Word is Mitt and Fred Thompson are now on a short cruise sponsored by the National Review on the future after Bush and the McCain-Palin debacle.
If I was part of the Obama transition, I would be thinking about presenting a good case to poach Romney. My opinion on the guy is that he mainly wanted to be President to do things, get things done so future generations still had a good future. Not power-thirsty or near-psychotically ambitious like a Schumer or Spitzer..Or a political animal like the brilliant Nixon was – happily on the road for 3 years rebuilding Republicans after the Goldwwater landslide – especially now with Republicans split into angry factions hating the other sides Rebuild ideas, with the Fundies hating Romney, too.
Romney know he has big obstacles to getting the nomination in 2012. Pervasive Evangelical Bigotry. And appearing not “authentic” to a Party now going in an anti-intellectual direction. And if he got the nomination, victory in 2012 is highly problematic. Given the lingering stench of Bush. the failure of Republicans in their years of rule, the horrific weaknesses in Republicans outside the South and with minorities and college educated exposed, combined with the possibility that Obama and his people will be seen as a big improvement to Dubya.
Meanwhile, his business is humming along pretty well without his day-to-day management since he selected such good leaders at Bain..and Mitt now has idle hands and lots of energy waiting to be committed to something. He is at his peak age, 61 – and ready for the next big, interesting job after he lost his chance to run as a Republican standard-bearer.
I think Obama could present Mitt Romney with 2-3 jobs of a lifetime that would satisfy his desire to contribute in a big biparisan way to America, while making his likelihood of becoming the Republican nominee weaker..
That would of course help the Obama Adninistration remove their most accomplished future rival, and directly benefit from having Romney doing bipartisan work.
I would offer him the role of co-chairing fiscal recovery efforts under the Treasury Secretary.
Then once a clear fiscal recovery policy path is set in motion, fixes being worked, I’d ask Romney to lead the greatest business turnaround ever. Save Detroit and also repair our failing health care system.
Full decision power to be Czar of Health Insurance Reform & Recovery of the American Automotive industry, A complete restructuring. Obama support of what Romney wanted to do, even over union objections, free trade objections – as long as he saved jobs and preserved the bulk of the value of the pensions. With the clout to get the parties to agree to Romney’s final restructuring and turnaround stipulations and ensuant Fed cash invested – because they now face bankruptcy. Which would guarantee eventual restructuring anyways on far less favorable Bankruptcy Court decisions that would favor killing the jobs and businesses to salvage meat from the carcass for creditors.
And modified and updated the Romney-Kennedy health insurance model so it covered those 1/6th of Americans now lacking health coverage, while cutting costs to that of our competitors and containing costs. It has to be both. You cannot fix the automotive industry without fixing the uncontrolled health care costs now adding 4500-5000 to the price of an auto.
If fixes work for Detroit, then America can expand on that, becoming competitive again in other industries. With health cost not killing our product prices, we will reduce our trade deficit tremendously and recreate some of the millions of jobs lost.
There are other deals Obama might offer Romney. Be in charge of energy independence, with Democrat stipulations – if Romney will agree to them.
Become Commerce Secretary and reconcile globalism and free trade with actions that give the US a more level playing field and strongly discourage export of good semi-skilled, skilled American jobs.
Text message arrives on Mitt’s Blackberry as he drinks a wonderful cool glass of milk and watches a Caribbean sunset with his wife and a drunk, but very entertaining Fred&Jeri Thompson:
“Yoo, hoo Mitt! Ring me at the Presidential Transition Team when you get off your cruise. Let’s talk about you now sitting around, doing nothing..wanna few interesting jobs? Like saving the formerBig 3, Detroit and Michigan?”
Love and kisses,
Rahm Emmanuel..
joeeph marcshall wrote
He didn’t bother trashing McCain personally because he didn’t need to, and he himself had already demonstrated, in reverse, that it was not effective. Throughout the campaign, Obama was far more gracious to everybody than anybody was to him, and he won in a landslide by being so.
what campaign did you watch?
Mccain can’t type, big dirt on palin, old man not fit to serve
obama won the best election the media and overseas money can buy
that American’s were stupid enough to treat this election like American Idol instead of looking into the canidates records and experience (of lack thereof) is a sad statement on this country
boxers or briefs
what is worse than a gracious loser
ignorant hateful winners
nearly all the right blogosphere has congratulated Obama’s win
don’t remember any of that from the left in 04
pathetic of the left
let me get this straight
1. mccain lost because he is too gracious??
2. still pushing the socialist line which conveniently ignores the fact that
there was a candidate running for pres. as a socialist and his name is not barack obama.
3. more misinformation about georgia/russia. read the british reporting folks and lets try to get an objective view on this. not this red scare circa 2008 business.
4. B.O. is according to you rabidly anti-israel although he just appointed the mini jew pit pitbull R.E. as his chief of staff
5. youre trying to get the guy for using composite characters in his book, while everyone knows that its common in literature.
6. your name is kyle-ann, and your ideas are circulated in a publication called “american thinker?” lulz. quite the brain trust im assuming. ill have to look into it.
It seems to be that we are tiptoeing around the pink elephant in McCain’s campaign, and the main reason I think he lost.
He put himself instead of country first by picking someone who clearly unqualified. Gov. Palin may be a nice person, but she is clueless about the major issues a VP or President has to confront. I have 3rd grade nieces and nephews that can put a sentence together better than she. Obama could have brought up the fact that she attended 4 colleges in 5 years but didn’t learn anything. While she appealed to the conservative base, the rest of the country saw this. The Republican party will become extinct if they continue to support candidates based on a few social issues instead of those with knowledge and views on more pragmatic issues.
Actually McCain would have lost MORE votes had he played the Socialist Card.
The problem with the McCain campaign was that he was TOO Agressive. It turned off the moderates to hear the likes of Palin go on about “Socialist” with the cries of “Traitor” in the background.
If McCain had stuck to the issues, especially the one he is strong about Foreign Policy, he could have dodged the Economy bullet. Heck he could have endorsed Obama’s plan while at the same time spinning it on how he is bipartisan.
But Noooo he dug up the “Rove book of mudslinging” and alienated the moderates.
He also should have went with Liberman as VP. As an Ex-Democrat he would have attracted tons of Conservative Democrats.
Obama was a fortress between McCain and the Presidency.
You can keep bombing a fortess all you want but if it’s stronger than what you have, you would never break it.
Patton made the mistake once in France and lost a lot of good men doing so.
But if you went AROUND it, you can get to your goal easily.
Porr John McCain – with frinds like you who need enemies
Remember that one sees the world as one is inside so if you could see nothing of value in the man or his books, you may very well not be seeing anything of value in yourself. That being the case, if it was me, I’d search myself long and hard. Best wishes to all.
NYT September 11, 2003
“The Bush administration today recommended the most significant regulatory overhaul in the housing finance industry since the savings and loan crisis a decade ago.
Under the plan, disclosed at a Congressional hearing today, a new agency would be created within the Treasury Department to assume supervision of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the government-sponsored companies that are the two largest players in the mortgage lending industry.
The new agency would have the authority, which now rests with Congress, to set one of the two capital-reserve requirements for the companies. It would exercise authority over any new lines of business. And it would determine whether the two are adequately managing the risks of their ballooning portfolios.
The plan is an acknowledgment by the administration that oversight of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac — which together have issued more than $1.5 trillion in outstanding debt — is broken. A report by outside investigators in July concluded that Freddie Mac manipulated its accounting to mislead investors, and critics have said Fannie Mae does not adequately hedge against rising interest rates”.
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A competent candidate would not have let the media and the Democrats stick his party with responsibility for the problems create by the Democrats.
While Obama may have goals of unifying the country, his supporters will make sure that doesn’t happen.
Henry B
“I have 3rd grade nieces and nephews that can put a sentence together better than she(sic). ”
Hilarious. Sorry Harry old boy, but it’s “better than her”. Of coursse if your GPA was as high as Sarah’s you might know better.
I see your limitations also extend to logic, to wit:
“The Republican party will become extinct if they continue to support candidates based on a few social issues instead of those with knowledge and views on more pragmatic issues.”
Hope and Change is pragmatic? Sorry Harry it’s meaningless verbiage. It’s snake oil. The media will cover for this guy as best they can but the realization that the public has been conned will sink in well before the end of Obama’s only term.
And there is nothing pragmatic about abandoning Iraq to al Qaeda and Iran, after so much sacrifice, when the end of the mission is so clearly in sight.
The way forward for the GOP is to pick leaders who can better express the party’s conservative ideals (including respect for life) not to become the fiscally conservative wing of the Democratic Party.
#66
Good points.
We don’t know. We don’t know…. I’m getting sick of hearing it. This is DENIAL writ large. The man was stealth candidate but he is not hiding behind a curtain now. He is moving swiftly to consolidate his power and rule by fiat through Executive Orders. This is a budding tyrannical totalitarian with absolutely no tolerance for dissenting opinion. He will cut the legs out from under Talk Radio and every other venue we now use to express conservative opinion including the internet. Mr. Nice Guy has saddled us with an America hating Bolshevik. Nice Guys don’t finish last. Their supporters do.
When did McCain lie about Romney? As I recall, Romney is a scumbag who spent the entire primary campaign and half of his personal fortune spreading lies about McCain and Huckabee. Had Romney dropped out after Florida, we may well be celebrating the victory of Gov. Huckabee today rather than mourning our losses.
BTW, if McCain chose Lieberman as his running mate, it would’ve been 55-35 Obama or worse. Any votes McCain could have picked up by choosing Lieberman would be offset several times over by the Conservative revolt that would have voted Barr/Baldwin/write-in or stayed home.
“Actually McCain would have lost MORE votes had he played the Socialist Card.”
Fine display of your socialist colors.
“But Noooo he dug up the “Rove book of mudslinging” and alienated the moderates.”
Nonsense. And you just slung more mud than Karl ever did.
“Obama was a fortress between McCain and the Presidency”.
Who made a one term Senator with no legislative accomplishments and no private sector achievements a fortess. A fortess!
60 Minutes promo for tonight is “stay tuned to meet the people behind Obama’s win:. They aren’t interviewing the heads of all the networks news departments but if they were honest, they would.
It’s better he lost. A McCain victory would only have given us a frustrating, conservative bashing 1 termer and an even more pumped up left wing.
The damage was inevitably coming.
The Republicans must ditch the Palin fantasy and wake up to the fact that they need young and more cosmopolitan voters in addition to the base.
The internet grassroots needs a major overhaul.
Gingrich needs to bring his ideas to head the RNC and the party needs to be dragged kicking and screaming in to the 21st century withunderstanding that the demorahics of this country are changing.
We are all OWNED by the Democrats. The media, the political power…. Democrats. It doesn’t matter who does what or says what. It doesnt’ matter who runs. Democrats have HUGE advantages by the media masters. Democrats OWN the media message. Pajamas Media, John McCain, George Bush are all guilty of figuring out it all comes down to what we are told by NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, NPR, Newsweek, Time, NY Times, LA Times, Washington Post, Google, Microsoft. We have a communist media in this country with one supreme goal– Democrats are always good, anyone challenging a Democrat is bad.
Think of it this way, he has spent his career as a Senator. The battle of a Presidential campaign is no place for a man who is trained to get along. Obama calls himself a Senator, but he never was a creature of the Senate so he had no problem playing hardball.
Republican’s have to learn their lesson with McCain and Dole. Two creatures of the Senate that can not compete as they are trained to be soft and respectable Senators.
Give me a governor any day of the week, and that is probably what we all recognized in Sarah Palin. She had a spine…
Ah, yet another conservative working very hard at avoid the facts, to wit:
John McCain was too much like Obama, and selected a VP candidate who was too much like Mick Huckabee — thusly losing all those voters who want somebody with a passing resemblance to Thomas Jefferson.
You know, an American — in the sense of the idea, not the birth canal.
Democrats are naive about evil and Republicans are naive Democrats.
Well said Kyle-Anne, but I think you are being too gracious.
I’m a proud Jew. Early on, when McCain backed out of an event with Rev. Hagee (a great friend of ours) after some blogger dug up something controversial he said about Jews ten years ago, well, I knew we were in big trouble.
Kyle-Ann, you have hit it on the nose. McCain was concerned about his image. Obama was more than willing to create and use any image that would get him elected. And McCain hamstrung his handlers by telling them what they could and could not do. Obama – well, one thing Obama learned in Chicago was how to look the other way.
And sadly, at the end of the day, McCain’s graciousness is a crock. He’s letting Palin take all kinds of blame for HIS loss. If his ‘character’ meant anything, he’d have put a stop to that the moment it started.
Geezuz, keep thinking like this and have fun losing more elections. The fact McCain was gracious didn’t lose him teh damn election. The complete abandonment of conservative-libertarianism by the GOP did. McCain was anything but gracious during this campaign. And Palin looked about as un-presidential as you can get with her hateful speeches which lacked substance or ideas.
The center of the political spectrum is not socialist, attacking a centrist candiate (becuase eventually you have to be honest with yourself, Obama is not a socialist) you insulted and alienated 60% percent of the electorate. Ya good thinkin!! That’ll win you the presidency.
Another reason, conservative-libertarianism is not compatable with religious right nanny state policies.
The GOP is bankrupt right now, no ideas, no ideals. When we get back to acually reading history and looking at successful conservative presidents, they aren’t insult spewing wingnuts who think 50% of America are terrorists….
A competent candidate would have recognized his own parties fingerprints all over the mess as well. And recognized that people didn’t care who was responsible they wanted ideas. Not insults.
I agree.
There is a reason George W. Bush has a 100% success record in elections he has had (2 for Governor, 2 for President).
He knows how to fight.
Kyl absoluely on the nose.McC had a streak of self-righteousness,an “Im above the fray” attitude that just killed any chance he may have had.He wanted to be considered “everyones hero and friend”,above his desire to be President and we re all going to pay for the next four years.A lie that is let stand becomes instant truth, and Obama lies about everything,from 95% tax cuts to”just a guy in the neighborhood”and McC let the lies become truth because it would have hurt his image of himself.He never challenged Ob on anything.Rudy or Mitt would have wiped the floor with this bunch, but the Times and their followers saw to it in their primary coverage that we got the one guy Ob could beat..John McCain
–had a grossly unqualified VP candidate.
She IS more qualified than the autobio-novelist and part time junior Senator.
Exactly right Kyle-Ann. Unfortunately for the demorats Saracudda won’t have that problem when she landslides THE FRAUD in 2012. All this talk of restructuring conservatism is a joke. We need to go back to our roots of small government, and low taxes. Sarah will take us there and all we need to
do is get on her unstoppable train, but I don’t mean that sexually.
Obama could have nailed him on his “war record,” his infidelity
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Excrement. Attacking McCain’s war record makes you sub-human.
The rest. After Clinton, who cares about 30 year old infidelity… what lefty dribbling excrement.
We conservatives and libertarians focused on Obama’s various gaffes and misstatements (57 states, redistribute Joe the Plumber’s wealth, etc.) as a window to his soul. And the gaffes provided an unflattering and somewhat scary picture. But really, we should have focused on McCain’s gaffe in which he admitted to being a liberal Republican during a primary campaign stop. Certainly, his record is solidly liberal in many ways. He pulled an inside straight by having the social conservatives behind Huckster and the fiscal conservatives behind Romney bash each other while appealing to the squishes and party switchers looking to influence the Republican primaries. In hindsight, who can argue that Romney would have been the much better candidate? His economic mastery would have sliced and diced the green Obama.
We need to make sure that the McCains and Doles are put out to pasture rather than given the future task of corralling fresh-faced Democrat. We need to charismatic and smart young candidates for public service who believe in limited government and social conservatism and can articulate it in compelling fashion. And we need to have the courage to be unpopular in the Beltway and with a callow media whose practitioners have little real world experience and even less policy expertise. Let’s hope that Palin, Jindal, or Romney can be that person in 2012.
….Now as we see the “Cult of Our Sarah” arise, about how an unknown telegenic lady who gave a good stump speech and not much else and became a Right Wing Goddess and….
Ladies and Gentlemen… A fine example here of lefty personal attack. Palin scares the left because she is a Normal American and not in awe of Lefty Elites. She has savvy and good communication skills and demonstrates that Republicans, unlike Democrats can actually advance women’s welfare (Hillary Clinton anyone?).
I know, you lefties want a woman like Janet Reno, (John Wayne with a skirt) because of your manhood issues.
Terry Gain (#91) — Actually, “better than she” is the proper English grammar, because the elliptical phrase omitted after “she” is “…can put a sentence together”. It’s true that “better than her” is the standard colloquial spoken form, but hey — if you’re taking a position of superiority it’s best to be correct. You sound a wee bit like those folks insisting Sarah Palin doesn’t know the Constitutional role of the Vice President, whereas you and I know they’re full of bunk.
I agree that the way forward is to articulate conservative ideals better; in this respect, I fear that Sarah Palin, unplugged, may face challenges because she’s sometimes got some pretty garbled syntax. (Like George Bush!) On the TelePrompTer, with good speechwriters, she’s a force of nature.
I would also like to see the Republican Party go forward on a platform of individual liberty as a counterpoint to Barack Obama’s collectivism.
Seems to me if ever a lesson should be learned, it’s this one. From reading liberal blogs, forums it’s like they ‘lost’, they are going absolutely mad over Palin, Joe, and ‘the Right’, 5 days after they won! They will not stop with the demonization, not ever.
I rarely listen to Rush, he’s just not my cup of tea, but I remember him saying that the left never takes prisoners, if the past 8 years and the last election cycle didn’t prove that, nothing will
John McCain made the mistake of believing that all the men and women who serve in the United States’ Senate are honorable and worthy of their station. Status and position are not the verification of honor.
I have read Obama’s books and I, too, find ample evidence of the kinds of inventions and deceptions that Ms. Shiver points out. But to speak negatively of Obama on any public forum is like putting drops of blood into shark infested waters. We know what happens, and they’ve shown up here. They are unworthy of the blood of our warriors shed to defend them and their liberties.
Almost every day, McCain seemed desperate to prove Anne Coulter right in her negative judgment of him. And proving Anne Coulter right takes some work.
This is why, over the history of this republic, we have rarely elected Senators. I dare say that if Obama had waited a few years, he would have been pretty unelectable himself. Obama was elected precisely because his adoring throngs know absolutely nothing about him – a clean slate with absolutely no accomplishments to his credit – an enigmatic ‘symbol’. The press had a chance to try and figure out some of his past, but had more press sent to Wassilla they they ever did to Chicago.
Remember the old adage ‘Beware what you ask for, as you may just get it.’
All the new voters and my baby boom generation that voted for Obama think they are living in Hogwart and Obama is Harry Potter.
Oh! Yes! He is just going to raise his magic wand and overnight we will return to the warm and fuzzy Clinton years before the BusHitler’s took over.
I watched his economic press conference in front of a stock market board.
The market was at 214 when he started speaking, 10 minutes later it was down at 80.
Just wait until this asshat takes power.
We were glad he didn’t speak for an hour,
the markets would have tanked to 4000
Think of it this way, he has spent his career as a Senator. The battle of a Presidential campaign is no place for a man who is trained to get along. Obama calls himself a Senator, but he never was a creature of the Senate so he had no problem playing hardball.
If Obama had spent a couple of terms in the Senate, I think he wouldn’t have had a snowflake’s chance in hell.
The worst thing about the Palin situation, to me, is that Palin actually is a Western libertarian-conservative type, an evangelical, personally perhaps, but not one who has ever shown a penchant for enforcing religious right policies using government power — she has had a political career, and it would have been pretty obvious if she’d done this. Seems to me that she tried to do her job for the McCain campaign, rather than just go out and present herself. Granted, that was her job. But she wasn’t good at it. She is a lot better at being Sarah Palin than someone else’s “attack dog.”
And now the McCain campaign is bashing her. He hasn’t stood up for her, though he did defend Obama repeatedly. I wouldn’t call McCain “gracious.” I’d call him weak.
He gave a lot for his country. However, that doesn’t make him a strong candidate for President. How many Medal of Honor winners have their been? How many have become President? That doesn’t mean that military heroes aren’t military heroes; their heroism just doesn’t automatically qualify them to be Presidents, or, for that matter, tax preparers, screenwriters, or surgeons.
Obama’s alleged socialism has little to do with the specific tax rate changes he has proposed. It has to do with his long history, with the way he perceives wealth, and with his political and philosophical roots. I’d say the label fits quite well, especially if one understands “socialism” to refer to the system in Sweden, not Stalin’s Russia.
I personally dread at least some of the programs that Obama promised on his campaign website, and look forward to none of them.
However, the McCain I’ve now seen shouldn’t be President, either. And I voted for him as the lesser evil.
Now what? I’m concerned for the country. The people swooning over Obama really scare me, because some seem to want to follow a charismatic leader, no matter who he really is. Some don’t seem to know or care who he is, what he stands for, or what he will do. The Republican Party is in disarray, but not because McCain lost. It’s been in disarray at least since before the Terri Schiavo case went to Congress.
There’s a banner, a banner of individual freedom and limited government, that nobody is carrying right now. George Bush couldn’t communicate worth crap, and McCain didn’t believe in what he was saying (he is a big-government advocate, too, but one that prefers the image of a Teddy Roosevelt Progressive). If McCain actually believed in (or maybe even understood) the value of market economics, he would have been able to muster up a few words to explain his programs. Instead, I got the idea that they weren’t his, but were devised by someone else, and they had nothing to do with his beliefs, or his thought processes.
Now what?
Executive summary of the above:
“Weak” =/= “Gracious”
Mister Snitch! said “And sadly, at the end of the day, McCain’s graciousness is a crock. He’s letting Palin take all kinds of blame for HIS loss. If his ‘character’ meant anything, he’d have put a stop to that the moment it started.”
McCain has been anything but gracious to the ugly, anonymous smears on Sarah Palin. His “graciousness” only extends to those across the aisle.
According to exit polls republicans and democrats made up about 60 to 64% of the electorate who voted November 4th. The rest are what is called ‘moderates’. What is a moderate? Simply put a moderate is someone who is not much interested in the ideas of either party. Such a person is much more likely to vote for a candidate on ‘atmospherics’, more commonly called charisma, if you’re not interested in policies, what else can get you ‘interested’?
John McCain has a charisma quotient in the single digits, down around Bob Dole’s level.
Barack Obama, I’m told, has a charisma level of JFK levels. I say I’m told because I have never thought Barack Obama was really that charismatic. His stumbling with words and backtracking from rash statements, even to the extent of his unintentional stab at Nancy Reagan, prove to me Obama is not charismatic or articulate for all his education. But, apparently, to a large number of ‘moderates’, and certainly democrats, he was charismatic, and since only 60% of so of voters really cared about Obama’s ideas or McCain’s, the outcome was certain.
Come on, we all who Obama is. He is a socialist, not a communist as some would to pin on him. I believe McCain leans towards socialism as well, but since he a RINO, we can’t say it. I also believe McCain could won this whole thing if he wanted to, but like Fred Thompson, won’t put forth the effort. Putting Sara on the ticket must have scared him once he started to gain so quickly on Obama. That “economic meltdown” was just what he needed to stay away from victory. Now Obama has to deal with the “real issues”. Wish us all well.
cedarford – you’re still a vindictive ignorant coward. Slither back to kos and the rest of the scumbags. You’ve spent the past 8 years hurling insults at Bush and Republicans. Now it is your turn to take it and responsibility when your messiah fails.
Death is inevitable for every living thing. So it may be for our nation.
We’re a few decades beyond the usual 200-year lifespan of a democracy. Too many of us are unaware how gravely ill we are; or what sickness has befallen us. We’ve not prepared ourselves for this day.
Too many of us have chosen to believe a lie.
It may be pointless for us to blame any one particular person, or any number of people, for that matter. Instead, the leader we will have for the foreseeable future may be one not chosen by us at all.
There may have been a greater hand at work. One who’s watched a blessed and great nation progressively turn away from the source of its blessings. One who has turned us over to ourselves in order that we might finally awaken.
“Lies and not truth prevail in the land; For they proceed from evil to evil…Through deceit they refuse to know Me…”
“This is your lot, the portion measured to you from Me,” declares the Lord. Because you have forgotten Me and trusted in falsehood.”
Scoffers are plentiful, but they may one day choose to read the words of Jeremiah. There is, thankfully, a way out. Once a nation finds itself in bondage, it is then that a spiritual awakening occurs.
@Conan 113
You must be a product of the sloppy education system which started in the mid 1960′s. The objective her should follow the comparative than in the sentence in question.
There are two correct ways of expressing the thought:
the elegant, “better than her”, or the less elegant, “better than she can”.
“Better than she” is a sentence fragment.
Hey Suzi, why is it conservatives who support their President when America is attacked by thugs and bullies, we’re told to “get our guns” since we’re such warmongers?
The last time I checked, unlike military service there is no age limit or physical to pass to be a human shield. It’s been seven years and despite all your side’s talk about being real American patriots, rejecting the war option and embracing global humanity I’ve yet to see one battalion – heck, make it one company – of anti-war human shields placing themselves between the innocents and the Islamofascist thugs.
Now if you people would have been consistent with your own rhetoric and demonstrated and actual track record of cowing tin-plated despots and jihadists with your human shield defense league, I might consider supporting an anti-military option in favor of your more “peaceful” means of dealing with evil people who terrorize the free world and innocent civilian populations. But since I’m only seeing a do-nothing-but-whine hypocrisy on your side of the aisle, I’ll continue supporting my country when it puts real American heroes on the frontiers of liberty to fight those battles on foreign soil instead of on American streets.
BTW Suzi, it’s been you guys who have been fearmongering given how your political derangement has caused you to see President Bush as the real enemy since 9/11 instead of militant Islamists. Personally, I find it incredible that America hasn’t been hit with another 9/11, or anything approaching it, in the last seven years. You don’t think it was because of swift and effective military action in the global war on terror, now do ya?
And in 2001 President Bush said this could be a generation war against an implacable foe who doesn’t play by the established rules of warfare but I see just seven years into it virtually everyone on your side of the aisle is in denial about the true nature of the enemies of freedom and now you want “change”. Well, the kind of “change” your Obamessiah may end up delivering just might not be to your liking (and certainly not ours), given the latest news is President Obama will be issuing all kinds of “executive orders” in order “to have an immediate impact”. Oh, I bet they will have an immediate impact alright.
McCain must have damaged his case with conservatives with his 300 billion mortgage bailout proprosal.
Keeping people in homes they can’t afford, at the expense of people who pay their way, is nuts. It prevents the price of homes from reaching their true market level. It makes people who live within their means pay for those who don’t.
Obama has a “take no prisoners” mentality – when it comes to abortion.
Reading Kyle-Anne Shiver is like drinking fine southern whiskey, it goes down soooo smooth and shortly after “lights your fire”. Every sentence is made to be enjoyed by thinking people.
Kyle-Anne, if you want company for your hissy fit I would be more than happy to join you. For myself I would add Joe Lieberman, ALGOREs’ chief acolyte. What on earth possessed JMcC to attach this dynamic dunce to his campaign?
To add a little to your great article, Bradley could be accompaied by Powell and the “deck” would still be short some cards. While on the military, apparently our Candidate was never introduced to the great chinese philosopher Sun Tzu and his “The Art of War”. In it is the most fundemental rule there is in War, Know Your Enemy. Why weren’t there McCain minions looking into Wright, Cone, Ayers, Klonsky, and the Woods Foundation and Acorn and “funny” birth certificates and much, much more. It approaches sheer stupidity that these were not on the lips of the Republicans on a daily basis.
Every great leader became such to a large extent by doing everything possible to understand, anticipate, and thereby thwart the enemy. Their enemie’s battle plans were studied in excruciating detail to to do just that. McC is a military man, what happened???
Obama displayed for the world to see his dismissive arrogance, his disdain of any who disagreed with him, his dishonesty e.g. the Public Campaign Financing fiasco, his “south Chicago’ thuggishness with his Oh-so-subtle use of his middle finger for Hillary and McC.
Now to add insult to injury where his supporters are concerned is this despicable attack on Sarah Palin by his staff and his unbelievable lack of comment.
To be brutally frank, I hope the JMcC will return to the Senate and “reach across the aisle, find a seat and stay there. This will clear the decks of one more wishy-washy Rockerfeller republican so that the real republicans (read that conservatives)can get their party straightened out.
I do not think it will take two years for the people of this great nation to realize the potentially tragic mistake, Barack Hussein Obama, must be stopped. The shortest route to that is the Congressional elections of 2010. Let us make sure that people like Sarah Palin are doing the talking for us.
Kyle-Anne, a really fine thought provoking article.
PC is Thought Control
LEE
Interesting analysis but misses the key point:
The Republicans would have lost no matter who the candidate was. While I agree McCain didn’t run a good campaign, I doubt that even the strongest effort could have got him there. For a year everyone’s been saying this was the Democrats’ election to lose. With an unpopular incumbent and a slowing economy, Obama would have had to self-destruct for McCain to be a chance. And, with a compliant media, that wasn’t going to happen.
All this debate about whether McCain was too left-wing, too old or too nice is silly. If Romney was the candidate he’d still have lost, and then all of you would be arguing that he was too right-wing, too young, not bipartisan enough, etc. If the Republicans can accept that despite their best efforts this just wasn’t their year, then they can move on from this. But getting bogged down in endless arguments and blame-shifting help nobody and will only damage people like Palin and Romney in the long run.
John McCain was conditioned in Viet Nam prison to comprise.He was almost running aginast his mirror image.I think the whole thing was fixed.He defended his opponent and made nice and talked about reaching across the aisle to Teddy ect.He was big on amnesty he was on board for the debacle in the making CAP AND TRADE.It should be noted that every Rebublican that was labeled as moderate went down in defeat.Paulson had been office 2 yrs, but yet the financial meltdown occurs about 4 wks prior to the election,sweet huh!
I don’t blame the loss on McCain.
That doesn’t mean he wasn’t weak, nor that his campaign didn’t suck, nor that his failure to stand behind his VP candidate over the past few days like he stuck up for his opponent isn’t pathetic.
Apparently, being a part of the most negative campaign I’ve ever seen wasn’t enough for this writer. She wanted John McCain to get even nastier. I love that Islam, to many ignorant Americans, has become such an evil religion because of terrorists. I agree. I also think Christianity is a vile religion because of the Catholic and Protestant terrorists in Ireland. Every person in every religion is as bad as the worst people who claim to be members of the religion.
GREAT piece.
I’ve been saying much the same thing, if not as well, for months.
We indeed did need a Patton. At home and abroad. We still need a Patton, but get further from having such a defender everyday. Instead we elect a critic (mentored and brain-washed by hate-seething anarchists) who has trashed this country on a daily basis since we first heard of this strange man only a short time ago. McCain waited far too long to introduce his disdain for Obama’s mentors and even criticized members of his own camp for doing so early on. I agree with Kyle-Anne Shiver that a pivot point was McCain saying “no” that he wasn’t a socialist. He should have been the first one to state the obvious. That is called courage, and we need courageous leaders more than ever.
The recent disasters (the perfectly timed Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac scams that are without a doubt the cause of the world economic crisis), the cross-over voting that picked the Repub. candidate, and the near future disasters-in-waiting that will come from this unknown odd man from the “world” will rest squarely on the shoulders of the Dems in charge and those who have fallen into the cult-like stupor of mindless adoration and elected him.
The Democrats won because the election was a referendum on Republican government over the last 8 years. Republicans should reflect on why they picked leaders (Bush/Cheney/Delay/Rove) who did such a lousy job of governing.
“Don’t know who Obama is yet?! Will rummaging through his dresser and sniffing his underwear finally satisfy you?”
Not really. That was the job the media failed to do. We certainly found out about the dresser contents, the dirty clothes hampers and rubbish bins of Gov. Palin and Joe Wurzelbach, didn’t we? What I found out about Barack Obama came from my own research. It is obvious that his “fierce urgency” was because he would soon begin leaving an actual record in D.C. He intentionaly ran as a clean, blank slate.
(Thanks, Conan, for explaining that *than* is a conjunction and not a preposition. Nothing’s more telling than an incorrect grammar correction!))
And nothing’s more embarrassing than not previewing a post!
intentionaly = intentionally
@ 130 Mark
It’s hard to win an election if you’re afraid to point out your opponent’s many weaknesses to his face.
It was the Democrat’s year, especially when the Republican candidate didn’t have the economic expertise to explain to the public the role of Democratic Party in the financial collapse.
“Stand up and fight” (because I won’t).
Mike Ditka should have been McCain’s campaign manager in PA being he is from there. He may have talked some sense into those nitwits. Being called racist and rednecks by Murtha that piece of trash and clinging to guns and religion don’t they know when they are being insulted? That and Chicago style election in Philadelphia did McCain in. I think our best leaders are not in Washington but our governors they make the best Presidents most of the time. It is the President on a smaller domestic scale.
“John McCain wanted to be nice; Barack Obama wanted to be president.”
That just about sums it up.
Great post Drexel. Notice Spitzer was taken out right before Bear Stearns went under. McCain would have been a true reformer going against the bailout in public he would have won in a landslide if he went to Washington and said enough of Main Street bailing out Wall Street. Paulson made millions in deals when at Goldman with China and he is a fox watching the henhouse. Get someone from Main Street to take his place. Banks are using our money to buy other banks, increase cash on hand and not for lending. Should have let the free market do it’s thing and those who couldn’t survive fail. Now we all suffer.
Kyle-Anne, I think McCain may ahve the last laugh when he has to pull O’s bacon out of the fire ( on national security)
Interesting how France is our buddy now.
re;#51, Marc Malone,The only stupid people in Penna. were all the elite in the Pittsburgh and Philly areas. All of us ‘rednecks’in the rest of the state ‘got it’. Of course the MSM saw it differently.
Something telling about Obama… When he was discussing the planned puppy, he was giving reasons for picking one breed over the other and lamented the fact they couldn’t pick a shelter dog .”A mutt like me”,because of allergies.
OMG!John Kerry for Secretary of State!
The auto industry wants my money to build a health insurance trust fund? Why can’t the workers buy their own health insurance , like I have to?
#125, Wahine; So true, A country that protects animals better than its babies( 40+ million aborted since 1973) will not survive.
McCain was fighting and uphill battle, but he was also fighting against an idolized version of Barack Obama, and in a historic context like this election, that’s difficult to overcome, because with his minimal record, Obama can be many things to many people.
On the other hand, in 2010 the Democrats in Congress will have to run on their records and that of the Obama Administration in its first two years, and in 2012 he’s going to have to run, not on some lofty ideal of changing the world, but on what he’s done, and if he’s done a bad job, he’s in trouble.
The best analogy is Rudy Giuliani vs. David Dinkins in 1989, and the rematch in 1993. Giuliani lost to an idolized version of Dinkins the first time around and the “gorgeous mosaic” — Dinkins’ version of “hope and change” — that New York would become if he became mayor.
Four years later, and with Democrats not only running City Hall but the governor’s office, Congress and the White House, even a city as liberal as New York knew there were no Republicans in sight to hang the blame on for Dave’s poor job performance — the only argument folks like the New York Times’ editorial board could make while backing Dinkins were the city’s problems with systemic and unfixable — but enough people couldn’t stomach that, and Rudy (who had the race card played on him big time in ’93) won election. If Obama’s a failure, expect to see the same story line in 2012; it’s then up to the Republicans to put together a competent campaign and find an appealing presidential candidate.
You are wasting time here people. We lost because mcCain was neither a conservative nor able to energize people in an environment where the media had just spend 5+ years helping democrats blame republicans & Bush for everything bad that happened. Heck, there are many people that even believe Bush made natural disasters happen!
Focus on Obama. My bet is that it will take him else than 6 months, even with the media covering for him, to piss off everybody. People voted for the American Idol president: the guy with the most flash and promises. Now they expect him to do something. They will get nothing but a recession, if not a depression, and all but the base is going to turn on him. One of the problems the left forgot about hiding who this guy was is the fact that he has accomplished nothing. Does not matter whom he gets around him, what these people believe in always goes wrong. Give it some time, and Obama will implode.
Hmmm…I remember the GOP promising that if they controlled the House, Senate, and Presidency then we would have lower taxes, reduced deficit, smaller government, less pork, etc., etc…see what happens when you don’t keep your promises? Those folks that took you at your word did’t show up this time to vote for you…like me.
Meanwhile, I’m on a personal mission. A month before the election I had a young friend assure me, “I guarantee that you will like the next 4 to 8 years under Obama.” This guarantee came in spite of my clearly stated skepticism and cynicism toward all politicians reagardless of their party.
I am going to excuse some of his youthful (he is 30 years old, I’m 54) idealism and optimism, but I do think that his arrogance and presumptousness needs a smackdown. I will wait until the end of January (as a polite gesture) before I begin to email my list of complaints of the Obama presidency on a monthly if not weekly basis to him. Each message will have a clearly defined complaint and my reason for the complaint. I will particularly note that he “guaranteed” me that I would like the Obama presidency. Each message will conclude with a pithy adages like “Don’t write checks your mouth can’t cash!” or “No one person can be everything to everyone.”
My wife’s chuckles and says that my friend is about to find out just how obstinate I can be and how much I will enjoy teaching him this lesson.
Suzi said:
If you are to sad, man, for McCaine, go and throw yourself in the war, go front line in Irak or Afganistan, go don’t wait a minute, don’t think about it, smarty one! Get the gun…as I see many people buy the guns, They don’t care about economy, educations, health care, reputation of this country in the world…they care about guns: VIOLENCE,
This dope named Suzi denies the fact that humans are just animals. Suzi, did you even observe the fossil record and the human ape’s history?
McCain pulled his punches because he didn’t want to be characterized as a racist.
John McCain was simply being a gentleman and there’s not a damn thing wrong with that. McCain lost because he could not communicate a coherent economic message. The closest he could come to it was when he spoke of his tax plan, but when the financial crisis was announced he ricocheted all over the place and coming to a final resting position that was 180 degrees off from where he should have come down.
With the election of Obama, at least now when the President flails around, worsening matters, the Republicans can’t be held responsible for it.
~peter
I’m of two minds.
Half of me thinks McCain wanted to be president the way Gen. George McClellan wanted to win the Civil War: It would be nice, but not worth getting his hair mussed.
The other half thinks McCain took a deliberate dive, that he had no intention of spending four years being the old white guy who kept a black man from becoming president.
And here’s a p.s. to all you gloating lefties out there: By all means, please keep deluding yourselves about Sarah Palin. She is the only reason McCain came as close as he did. She’ll be back much sooner than any of you want to think — and she’ll be loaded for moose.
We have a very serious trend going on in our country right now. There is a HUGE demographic that voted overwhelmingly for Oobonga in the election. Well over 70% of single females voted for him, and probably would have voted for any other Leftist candidate on the ticket. Guys, the only way to overcome something like THAT is to have some other very large demographic group vote overwhelmingly the other way.
The other huge divide in our nation is urban vs. rural America. And clearly I identify with rural America, living in the southern rim of Central New Hampshire, surrounded by woods and farms, near to growing suburban developments of people who moved here from cities. Urbanites think in terms of collectivist values, and this bodes ill for those of us who prefer smaller government.
Going forward these oppositional groups are only going to have sharper differences with each other. Sadly, I don’t see this nation in any way unifying. If something like 9/11 didn’t do it, nothing will. We are on a path that may some day result in a civil war. We have two competing traditions coalescing into defined positions: the tradition of the Constitution and individual liberty versus the emerging tradition of statist/collectivist goals and values, which primarily came here from Europe via the intellectual traditions of Rousseau through Marx through the Frankfurt School revisionist Marxist tradition.
I do not hold to the view that this is still primarily a center-Right nation. The trends are in the other direction. All of our country’s major institutions – education, university, media, and law – are thoroughly penetrated by the collectivists and they are winning the battle for the hearts and minds of the people.
John McCain seems totally unable to see that this has been happening. If he grasped it, he would have understood the urgency of the situation and how to name his opponent effectively. There was plenty of material in Obama’s background to buttress the case that he was most solidly in the collectivist camp. It makes me wonder if too many in his own party are similarly addled.
I think this is a lesson for us in the GOP. We need to get tougher, and not be afraid to have a mudfight. Mccain was far too civil. We need to bring up
abortion and gay marriage, and we should have hit obama even harder on his socialist tendencies and “Pastor” Wright.
Palin 2012
There’s a point you can be gracious, however there’s a fine line to it as well. Okay, so McCain was gracious in defeat that’s not a big deal and actually says something about him. However, at times he stepped over the line in being too humble especially when he didn’t want to bring up Rev. Wright or some of Obama’s other savory characters. He should have been pressing the Ayers-Obama connection a lot more, he should have been pressing he Rezko-Obama situation a lot more as well as the ties liberals like Barney Frank and Chris Dodd had in the whole Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac ordeal.
The problem with the McCain campaign wasn’t that he was too gracious, it was the fact that 1 million Republicans didn’t show up in Ohio and overall turnout for Republicans was down from 2004. The problem with the campaign was McCain played to the moderate and liberal wing, went on Letterman and SNL and did everything but energize the conservative aspect of the Republican Party. And, let’s face it McCain’s a moderate to liberal, blue blood Republican. How can he attack Obama about giving driver’s licenses to illegals when he tried to pass the McCain Kennedy bill? He also didn’t have a clear, conscious vision on the economy and the current economic situation other than to support the bail out and want to add more to it.
Eventually, the buck stops with the Republican Party as a whole.
President-elect Obama certainly showed his “graciousness” with his snarky comment about Nancy Reagan on Saturday. Looks like he may be closer to his wife’s life viewpoint than he would admit during the campaign.
“Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent.” Similarly, cooperation with socialists is betrayal of free marketeers.
Years ago, John McCain got caught with his hand in Charles Keating’s cookie jar. The Democrats’ allies in the news media could have destroyed him, so McCain submmited to their blackmail and screwed Republicans and US taxpayers.
There was no honor in throwing this campaign.
I really don’t think that there was anything McCain, or anyone else could have done. We seemed to be determined to elect Obama, regardless of logic. Logic does not win elections. Desirability covers a multitude of sins.
After the election issue morphed from “the War” because the surge worked, to the well orchestrated economic situation, McCain should have recited the explicits of the origins of the sudden economic snowball and named the names at the beginning of every speech.
If anyone is interested in bringing these perpetrators to account, legally speaking, educate yourselves by going to Fannie Mae’s website and reading as much as possible through the “Executive Speeches” link. Go way back through these archives to see what and how they were taking all of us to the cleaners over the years. Hurry before it all disappears like the documents Sandy Berger stuffed in his pants and socks!
Check out this one report linked below: just reading the bullets will be enough to curl your spine. And remember in the hearings Barney Frank and his colleagues blatantly defended these loan sharks as not having a problem. The truth apparently is that they did not want the problem to surface until election ’08. From 2006 on Fannie Mae’s site: http://www.fanniemae.com/media/pdf/newsreleases/FNMSPECIALEXAM.pdf
They should all go to jail. McCain should have demanded it. Maybe he still will?
It’s not just wanting to “be nice”. McCain screwed up big time by choosing Sarah Palin to be his running mate. It indicated either a lack of proper scruteny into her qualifications, sheer desperation on his part or a little of both. McCain was running as the candidate of a lame duck party, made that way by the disatrous two presidential terms of Bush. It’s too bad the Dems couldn’t find a better candidate than John Kerry to run against Bush in 2004. It might have saved all this financial melt down, and at least 2,000 American lives. But better later than never.
Do you Republicans want to spiral down the drain of irrelevance? If so, keep listening & believing & following dolts like Kyle-Anne Shiver. This country needs rigorous, intelligent opposition and competition, not sheer stupidity.
97. anon @Nov 9, 2008 – 4:10 pm wrote:
We are all OWNED by the Democrats. The media, the political power…. Democrats. It doesn’t matter who does what or says what. It doesnt’ matter who runs. Democrats have HUGE advantages by the media masters. Democrats OWN the media message.
Would anybody know that the ME Oil cartel hold significant amount of stakes in all major media outlets?
Would anybody care?
“…the Left is essentially sociopathic; they do not think the way we do. They have no sense of graciousness, or respect for other opinions. They are all about power. The ignorant masses respect that, as they did in Germany in the 1930s. ”
People so willing to generalise about me, their fellow citizen, helped me make up my mind that I would never vote for their candidate of choice.
I’m no sociopath; unlike, for example, the neoNazis from TN who were caught fomenting an assassination plot against Obama last month, or the 500 plots on his life and those of his family derailed by the US Secret Service which arose *after* Sarah Palin started lying in public about “palling around with terrorists” and the like.
A word to the neo-cons: you can’t expect to hate and despise your fellow-citizens and get the country you think you want. We’re all here together. If you can’t share nicely then you have to go sit in the naughty corner for a while and have a think about what other choices you could have made.
We MUST find a conservative alternative to the NOT conservative voice of FOXnews and the Wall Street Journal.
Why doesn’t CBS stop being the 3rd place liberal loser network for lib news and morning shows and GO CONSERVATIVE!
By God, what a business opportunity they are MISSING!
Enough of the post-mortem. The election is over and now we suffer the consequences. And the consequences will become very clear. Probably quickly. Each day Obama serves in office his flaws will become more apparent and his popularity will suffer among an increasingly large segment of the population. The half-witted fans of “The View” and the Oprah Winfrey Show are a lost cause. Most of them couldn’t think their way out of a wet paper bag in any event and neither could so many of the liberal-left posters here. Considering the statements of most of them (Suzi comes immediately to mind but she has plenty of company among the “Obama is our savior” flock) indicates that coming back from the wilderness in two or four years will be a lot easier than might have been imagined. I have no idea whether Lindal, Palin, and Romney are the key players for the future or will occupy the stage in the next battle, but clearly the Republicans need to abandon democrat-lite and get back to a philosophy of small government, spending cuts, and low taxes. When they embrace these and related values Republicans win. When they seek the squishy middle, playingv nice, bipartisanship, and moderation they lose. This year they were losers in spades; going forward they will hopefully be brighter than Suzi and her kin.
I thought McCain’s speech was touching, thoughtful, intelligent, and inspiring–way more inspiring than his entire campaign! Don’t you think?? Maybe he needed to borrow some of the left wing illuminati advisers to get some passion going in his campaign? HA HA!
McCain showed himself to be less a leader and more a beggar.
A campaign of more fear than conviction — fear of alienating blocks of voters. He’d been courting target groups for years, “my friends.” He even met with an evangelical leader or two after years of dissing them.
Once the war became a nonissue (the surge), we were hit with the financial meltdown. It was an opportunity squandered, and revealed his weakness. McCain feared the straight talk about how it’d happened; it might lose him another precious voting block. We heard this drumbeat instead, “We have to keep people in their homes, it isn’t fair they lose them.”
McCain was nothing more than a typical politician, trying to win votes. And not a very good one at that. Had he taken a principled stand and educated the voter on what values have made our country great for over 200 years, there’s a better chance he would have won.
Many of us today don’t mourn a great leader’s defeat. Instead we watch a man, his cup nearly half-full, walk back under the bridge to join the others, losing a few coins on the way.
As with every November following a presidential election we now hear calls for unity and cooperation. The victor always extends a hand in friendship and the vanquished humbly accepts in hopes of clinging to some shred of power. To this I can only say “Resist!” We must never give up what little we have in hopes of appearing civil. Civility in the face of tyranny, and make no mistake that is ultimately what we face in this new administration, is nothing but a synonym for suicide. I would rather starve than subsist on the poisonous crumbs tossed from the table of Marxism. The idea of collaboration with those who have sought to undermine our movement is revolting, especially to those who see this for what it truly is; a struggle for freedom.
Has the left not sought over the past eight years to cut the feet out from under this nation’s rightfully elected leadership in a drive to delegitimize our world view?….
http://www.hostileopposition.blogspot.com
For those who’d like to remember a great leader, go to
marklevinshow.com
to hear Ronald Reagan in “A Time for Choosing.” A stark contrast between the leader we once had and the leader we’ll soon have.
No doubt about where this good man stood.
Folks:
When you realise that Obama Is the “False Profit” it all becomes very clear what has happened with this election. Why all the crowds of people in the streets in other countries?? What is Obama to them?? Will he send them some money to live on??
Some 10 million in Germany in the streets. Why??
Inventor.
Out of this miserable campaign there are two brght spots. These are things that send the liberals “right up the wall”. They become jibbering idiots:
1. Sarah Palin
2. tagging them as “socialist”
nuff said
PC is Thought Control
LEE
It’s certainly true that McCain often seemed too “nice” even though he was being attacked mercilessly every day.
But the elction’s over and one has to look ahead. My own view os that Obama won because he successfully captured a big piece of the electorate’s vital center. That’s where every Presidential election is won. I’m a part of it and to keep Obama honest for the next four years. I’ve started a centrist blog where all of the right and left are welcome. Take a look at http://thepurplecenter.blogspot.com/
He is just a loser. Obama, acorn , and the media whooped him. We like underdogs not losers. Frankly , Republicans are losers . I am not sure if they did not just throw the fight. Even GWB won re-election so the country doesn’t ask too much but you at least need a contender.
Oh I call bulshytt on this.
In the N. Carolina primary Bush/Rove/Steve Schmidt slimed McCain with racist robocalls about the McCains adopted Bangladeshi daughter being John McCain’s mixed race love child.
McCain hired Schmidt to run his campaign, write Palin’s terrorists speech and generate robocalls that were so revolting that some GOP campaign workers walked out.
Why does the republican party have to be the party of teh stupid?
Oh…..I forgot…..Palin.
Every commentator seems to be grousing and explaining and attributing to John McCain traits that he never had. He has always been petty, mean and vindictive to conservatives and “gracious” and obsequious to liberals. His staff’s commentary during and after the campaign about Sarah Pallin is illustrative of the kind of man he is and the the kind of people he is attracted to and surrounds himself with.
It appears that most conservative commentators, writers, bloggers and like-minded thinkers better get involved in every level of the Republican party because the people currently guiding and inhabiting it don’t share their philosophy-after all they overwhelmingly nominated John McCain as their candidate-a fellow who has always championed and made the most noise about issues that are anathema to small government conservatives.
McCain himself took the blame for losing the election, so blame him
#144, um France is France’s buddy, they might be a bit more tolerant, but buddies??
Dear AnninCA – now if YOU had been the (R)VP candidate, I would’ve voted Republican.
McCain’s a flippin wimp; Not sure which party he belongs to; Would be about as effective as Obama.
He’s not gracious, just stupid.
I didn’t find this article particularly interesting, since it doesn’t really deal with what matters (the future of democracy, the West, capitalism etc) but with the GOP (so local).
Now, I found it quite hilarious. If I understand it well, it’s an article against graciousness, despite the caveat “Now, please, dear reader, do not misunderstand me.”
McCain’s speech was great, very gracious. Maybe what killed him and the GOP by the same token is a lack of coordination during the financial crisis, don’t you think Kyle-Anne?
So, please, dear, “throw the biggest hissy fit ever seen this side of the Mississippi.”, I’m throwing the biggest laugh on this side of the ATLANTIC. Open you eyes!
Obama and McCain were selling an IMAGE not the ideas what to do or VISION
they had no vision
Obama faked some, McCain was honest in terms that he never offered something he never had to begin with
It is a pity that conservative camp proved to be unable to have a vision for this country
There are people with vision on different issues in conservative camp.
It was such a waste that McCain did not integrate this effort and lost this
Seems like group think is taking over everyone in politics and this group think purpose is to block vision creation.
This is how it works psychologically and was designed for.
In order to become able to create a broad vision for our Country we have to start learning
WHAT IS GOING ON in fact
So it should be a cultural change or we will fail :
LEARNING–>UNDERSTANDING–>VISION–>SUCCESS
Lee-Missouri Ozarks:
“…These are things that send the liberals “right up the wall”…
1. Sarah Palin
2. tagging them as “socialist” ”
You are mistaken my friend, ‘Liberals’ absolutely love Sarah. She guaranteed a democrat would be in the White House for the next 4 years and are hoping she’s still around in 2012 to make it 8.
love
westlake
George Bush destroyed the GOP. McCain delivered the coup d’etat. McCain is already over on the other side of the isle underming the GOP agenda.
McCain may be a great hero but if he cared about America and had any morals he would have switched parties and run as a democrat. Were it not for Palin, McCain would have been routed in a landslide.
The McCain run was a repulsive and unpatriotic display of self aggrandizement on the part of an aging demagogue.
mcCain is a good man , and done good for this country, but he was no the man for the president , maybe in 2000, but not now, we needed Obama. McCain actually had a terrible campaign, and if it wasn’t for the fact that the media love him it would have gave him far less favorable coverage and he would have been bat by even more.
Von Bear:
it all started when USA establishment was fooled by kremlin to start signing arms control treaties
that soviets and those who came after-
never had and never will adhere to
USA on the other hand disarmed
Then kremlin managed to successfully exploit Reagan bravado and they faked desolution of their aggressive state
but kept all the arms
and made more and more
and acquired new technology through trade and through USA trade with China
Nixon and Reagan played the card with a cheaters:
China and Kremlin always were secretly united against a common enemy
Now they openly claim full strategic partnership
——
So Bush was just following the group think: reduced more nukes
Russians never reduced anything: nuclear, chemical or biological
McCain – well i think that
American public feels fake-ness of the GOP general world perception as a faked winners of the cold war
On the other hand the left, well mostly they dont get a fact that a foreign well organized criminal force is pursuing a strategy of world domination since 1917-
And their side, the socialism side is winning in many places so
left are encouraged and honest:
because the defeatist attitude prevail in their camp
which is exactly corresponding to the great design
history by the way tells us this:
http://www.financialsense.com/stormwatch/geo/pastanalysis/2008/1107.html
it all happened centuries ago
I don’t know why anyone would think that John McCain would stand up for Sarah Palin, since his personal history certainly doesn’t suggest that is part of his character…
After being periodically slapped around for “three or four days” by his captors who wanted military information from him, McCain called for an officer on his fourth day of captivity. He told the officer, “O.K., I’ll give you military information if you will take me to the hospital.” -U.S. News and World Report, May 14, 1973 article written by former POW John McCain
McCain was taken to Gai Lam military hospital. (U.S. government documents)
“Demands for military information were accompanied by threats to terminate my medical treatment if I [McCain] did not cooperate. Eventually, I gave them my ship’s name and squadron number, and confirmed that my target had been the power plant.” Page 193-194, Faith of My Fathers by John McCain
Your articles are of low-quality. Another article, another bunch of glaring factual errors. McCain is not a courageous statesman, he’s a coward who was “disappointed” by Russia’s nuclear threats towards its neighbours and believes that Russia and America have mutual interests. He’s just as liberal on foreign policy as Obama is.
Business owners: If it comes to a situation where you have to lay off or fire some people because the tax burden on you is going up, if you have a choice get rid of the Obama supporters first.
Yes, it’s hardball now.
Don’t announce this, lest you get your *ss sued off or you get hauled up before Henry Waxman.
Just do it.
Agree with the article. McCain ran such a wimpy campaign that he was destined to lose because “O” ran an aggressive, salesy, slick, well marketed, very focused campaign. It makes me wonder what on earth McCain was thinking and if he would have continued that cluelessness as President. When McCain didn’t even mention Reszko, Ayers, Rev. Wright, Marxist mentors, etc, etc etc. he was HANDING the election to Obama. Imagine if McCain had a shady finance deal on his home with a convicted felon (Reszko), or had been friends with Timothy McVeigh for years after the Oklahoma bombing, or if he sat for 20 yrs listening to such a nasty, racist preacher. The Dems and the press would have eviscerated McCain and sowed such doubt about his character and judgment that we would never trust him as town dogcatcher.
republican Party: wake up to the new reality. The Dems play to win, not to maintain dignity and honor. Until you play by the same set of rules as your competitor, you’re going to find it incredibly difficult to win.
I wonder if those Pajamas Media come with footies?
Cuz this is one tantrum straight out of the playbook of a two-year-old.
The Dems said the same thing the last two election losses. “We’re too nice.” It’s actually part of MSM conventional wisdom that that’s why they usually lose.
It’s not that McCain wanted to be “gracious.” It’s that he had little experience attacking Democrats. He didn’t know how to do it, or why to do it, or on which issues. He made his name taking on Republicans and conservatives, not liberals.
Think aboutit: He’s a longtime, 72 year old Republican…when’s the last time he had to pursuade voters that the conservative approach was better than liberal?
John McCain was Bob Dole was Gerald Ford was Bob Michael was…
HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE? HOW MANY TIME DO WE HAVE TO SEE LIMP-SPINED “MODERATES” GO DOWN IN FLAMES BEFORE WE ACKNOWLEDGE THE OBVIOUS–THAT ROCKEFELLER REPUBLICANISM IS A LOSING PROPOSITION???????
“Clearly, this guy [Mr Obama] is going to bring a great sense of family to the White House” – Bush
It is interesting to see George Bush appearing to grovel to Obama unlike McCain who, since he lost the election, has come across as genuinely gracious.
westlake
Mr. Westlake,
A sense of family, you say. And I think you’re right on.
A family of terroristic, American-hating pukafied thugs whose idea of a family reunion is to talk about how to do the most damage to America in the shortest amount of time.
MCCAIN’S TARNISHED HONOR
John McCain has damaged his own reputation for no apparent reason:
http://greensrealworld.blogspot.com/2008/11/mccains-tarnished-honor.html
Blah, blah,blah, blah…Hic! You should had told McCain before the election, not now. Suck it up and live with it! Just because he is black does not mean that he is bad, just like just because the sitting one is white does not make him right (and how wrong!).
This is typical liberal-socialist rhetoric. Senator McCain didn’t run as a “nice” guy, but lost as a winner as far as respect for the American system. It is custom for the outgoing president to be professional and brief the new president, without animosity or resentment. On the other hand, people in your crowd, like Al Gore, who whined and cried foul in 2000 when he lost, is pale compared to Senator McCain. I didn’t vote for McCain – but at least he acted at the end as a statement instead of a political pimp. America doesn’t need socialism nor the politics of you and your kind.