Election Predictions from PJ Media Columnists
ANDREW C. MCCARTHY
This is the most extraordinary election in American history – dismayingly so. In the Obama years, the American press has gone from mere cheerleader for the Democratic candidate to adjunct of his campaign. It is therefore more difficult than it has ever been to get a read on the dynamic of the race. For almost all of President Obama’s term, polling has been more a media device to shape public opinion than a dispassionate barometer to report public opinion – reporting as “mainstream” the perceptions and programs of skewed samples.
Now, as we’ve come down to the wire, the press is worried about its reputation (talk about locking the barn after … reminds us of post-Lewinsky Clinton fretting over his legacy!). Suddenly, the polling is tighter and elucidates a tide running in Gov. Romney’s direction. But who really knows how much? I suspect Romney was never really as far behind as suggested by wishful media dispatches – many of which had the election over before the conventions even convened. Such reporting was always ill-premised because the election was never about Romney. It has always been about Obama. It has been about whether the real-world perception of how bad things are registers more than the Potemkin portrait, fashioned by the Left’s opinion leaders, of a nation on the brink of sunny times thanks to Obama’s strong, steady hand.
I don’t pretend to know the answer to that ultimate question. But I do know two things. First, it has only been two years since Americans were inspired to give Democrats a historically significant “shellacking” – at every level of government. Read the legacy papers and watch the near-extinct dinosaurs of establishment TV news, and you’ll hear little about Tea Partiers beyond sniffling from the bipartisan ruling-class and commentariat, painting them as unrepresentative racist Troglodytes. My sense, to the contrary, is that the Tea Party – which is a grass-roots movement, not a “party” – is actually quite representative of ordinary Americans, that its legions have not faded away, that the things galvanizing them have gotten worse since 2010, and that they are more broadly motivated to dispense with Obama than his forces are to retain him.
Second, regardless of what the polls say, Obama obviously believes he is in big trouble. He finds himself having to fight for votes in places he needs to have in the bag if he is going to be reelected. And it is not a propitious time to fight for votes when the tide is running in the other guy’s favor; when a hurricane has just reminded people in key states that infrastructure was utterly ignored while the administration paid off its cronies with over $800 billion in our “stimulus” money; and when the drip, drip, drip of Benghazi, despite the Obamedia’s best efforts to black-hole it, evolves from monumental debacle to an impeachable debacle.
Mitt Romney wins … decisively.
– Andrew C. McCarthy is a former federal prosecutor and New York Times bestselling author.
ROGER L. SIMON
I have never been superstitious. But this election is so important, so really… titanic… that I find myself suddenly throwing the I Ching and reaching for Ouija boards to determine what will happen.
Well, not really, because as a natural worrier (an ethnic tradition) I often fear the future and part of me doesn’t want to know. And this time more than ever because an Obama victory would mean the country I love is not what I think it is, that it has turned into a land of thoughtless sheep.
Nevertheless the part of me that is not superstitious trusts the one person who knows more about elections than anyone I know — my friend Michael Barone. Michael says Romney will win. So I’m choosing to believe him, when my blood sugar is okay anyway.
But as another man once said, “Trust, but verify.” We will all verify on Tuesday.
– Roger L. Simon is the co-founder and CEO of PJ Media.
VICTOR DAVIS HANSON
I think Romney will win by a point and the Republicans will come up one or two seats short in the Senate. Three things are happening in Obama’s favor. First, the time between the debate lengthens, and the electorate now sees him prancing around in a bomber jacket, not as the petulant, interrupting, unpresidential sophist who seemed unappealing before millions on TV. Second, the storm simply cut short Romney’s momentum: one day all the stories were about Romney’s new huge crowds and soaring clips of his message, the next day Obama and Chris Christie, arm in arm on the shore, dominated the news, with gaga media reports of presidential leadership. Third, the news from Benghazi just gets worse each day — and the silence from the Romney campaign becomes deafening. There is this quiet recognition that all hell is going to break loose after the election, but for some reason criticism of the deadly catastrophe has become off-limits. So I can see why a week ago Romney was starting to create wave-like momentum, but now, based on independent voting and Republican turnout, I think he has just enough thrust left to hang on by a point — if he can barnstorm and give ‘em hell these last two days.
– Victor Davis Hanson is the Martin and Illie Anderson Senior Fellow in Residence in Classics and Military History at the Hoover Institution, Stanford University, a professor of Classics Emeritus at California State University, Fresno, and a nationally syndicated columnist for Tribune Media Services.
CLAUDIA ROSETT
It seems safe to predict that if President Obama wins, it will be close. If there’s a landslide coming, it’s for Romney. But apart from that, I’d be lying to suggest that I could with any confidence foretell which way this election will go. Were this the America of, say, 32 years ago, I’d be predicting a Romney landslide, and a GOP majority in the Senate. But for all the torrents of data, demographics, and media accounts now at our fingertips, I think the character of this country is harder to gauge right now than at any time I can remember. I don’t trust the polls, and I don’t know how much weight the voters at the margin will assign to the latest weekly-news-cycle photo-op tableaus flashing across the iPad screen, or the realities of terror in Benghazi, and an economy choking on red tape and burying itself in government debt, for which the real bills have not yet begun to come due.
We have seen a massive expansion of the entitlement state, and a troubling loss of memory about the vital role and full virtues of free markets — not only in creating wealth, but in protecting freedom. We have tried abdicating world leadership, but the ensuing tumult is only beginning to make itself felt. Modern technology has made us richer than I think we have fully been able to measure, and yet I am reminded too often these days of T.S. Eliot’s line: “Where is the knowledge we have lost in information?” The jury is out right now, on whether the boundless proliferation of 140 character tweets enhances or substitutes for backbone and clarity of thought, and whether such luxuries would have helped or hindered Paul Revere. We will know the results of this election soon enough (barring the nightmare of an endless recount). It is this election itself that will provide some badly needed insight into the basic character of 2012 America. (I’ve placed my bet, with a couple of folks whose company I prize. The stakes are modest: the losers pay for a round of pulled pork sandwiches at a local pub. But this was more by way of a hedge than a prediction — banking on an evening in good company, whatever happens at the polls.)
– Claudia Rosett is journalist-in-residence with the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, and heads its Investigative Reporting Project.
ROGER KIMBALL
Romney is going to win, big time. Why? I can tell you in three syllables and a few numbers. The syllables are: Ben-gha-zi. We will not get to the bottom of the cover-up of why Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans were left to die in that god-forsaken Libyan city, their desperate calls for help repeatedly ignored, before the election. But it has been clear for some time now that there was a cover-up of major proportions. The story is not being pursued by the New York Times or other representatives of the legacy media. (Just imagine what round-the-clock howls of indignation and rage the legacy media would be emitting over this heinous bit of political calculation were there a Republican administration in office!) But the studied “hear-no-evil, see-no-evil, report-no-evil” if it comes from the Left has not done the trick this time. The “Fast and Furious” scandal, which has left scores of Mexicans and at least two Americans dead, has been effectively keep from public consciousness. This is not the case with the Benghazi scandal. Hardly a day goes by now when more details are revolved and repeated by the alternative media from giants like Fox News to the hundreds of bloggers that do the job the legacy media has avoided. As my colleague Roger L. Simon suggested on PJ Media last week, even if (per impossible) Obama were reelected, he would likely face impeachment proceedings of a virulence that would make Watergate appear like a walk through the park.
But Benghazi is a late-breaking scandal. I had put Romney down as the victor long before the September 11 attacks in Libya. The reason can be summed up in a few numbers:
$16 trillion: the amount of the federal debt.
$1 trillion: the amount of money we are now paying out in welfare benefits.
$1-point-something trillion: the size of the deficits Obama has run every year he’s been in office.
23 million: the number of Americans un- or underemployed.
7.9 percent: the current official unemployment rate (the real rate is much higher).
46.37 million: the number of people on food stamps.
$4-plus: the price per gallon for gasoline.
You can extend the list. For the first time in his life, Barack Obama has to run on his record, not his race. There is no way to look at the numerical profile of his tenure and come to any other conclusion than that it has been an unmitigated disaster. Blaming George Bush, or Europe, or global warming, or the Republicans just won’t wash. Obama’s policies, minted in the left-wing, spread-the-wealth-around ideological factory, are clearly to blame. People understand this in their bones. The next four years under Obama would be same as the last four years, only worse, because we would be that much poorer, that much more heavily regulated, that much more under the thumb of an engorging activist governmental bureaucracy.
No, Obama is toast.And for the same reason, Republicans will also take the Senate, and by more than a couple of seats.Tuesday, I predict, will be a blood bath for Democrats as fiscal reality, not to mention a sense of enraged national honor, washes like a tsunami over the hapless Democratic Party, denuded now of everything except a viperish petulance and demand for what the President tellingly called “revenge.” The adults in the political process are just about to make a big comeback, which will be good for the country but decidedly unpleasant for the party of redistribution and statist triumphalism.
– In addition to his work at PJ Media and The New Criterion, Roger Kimball is the publisher of Encounter Books, a purveyor of serious non-fiction titles from a broadly construed conservative perspective.
ZOMBIE
Who is going to win the presidency? I don’t know. Furthermore, nobody else does either. Everyone is biased; everyone has an agenda. Even those who imagine themselves to be neutral.
There are actually three kinds of bias this year when it comes to political predictions: Liberals who invariably declare Obama will win; conservatives who invariably declare Romney will win; and neutral nonpartisan analysts who invariably insist that it’s possible to predict the outcome at all. But they’re all wrong.
The most important PJ Media post I made this season is “WE ARE THE 91%: Only 9% of Americans Cooperate with Pollsters.” That’s really all you need to know: Every single poll is a joke, because only 9% of people even cooperate with them. There is almost certainly a huge self-selection bias among the 91% who refuse to participate, meaning that as a group they most likely share some characteristics. And since this group of stubborn unknowns is literally ten times the size of the sample group from which laughable conclusions are being drawn, the potential for massive polling errors is extremely large. For all we know, either Obama or Romney could be up 70-30 or 80-20.
In my post I argued that the non-respondents are more likely to tilt Romney than otherwise, and I still think that’s true. But in reality no one really knows who the non-responders are — by definition their beliefs are unknown.
Since this disqualifies polls and polling from any predictions I may make, all I can go on are vague impressions of “enthusiasm” and “energy” in either political camp. At the moment it really seems like the enthusiasm advantage goes strongly to the Republicans, but that impression is itself basely entirely on media and blog reports, and I have no idea how accurate they are, since the anecdotal reports could be slanting facts as well.
I could lie and say I “know” Romney will win, but that would merely be my attempt to further inspire confidence and enthusiasm among conservative voters. Do I want Romney to win? Yes. Do I suspect he will win? Yes. Do I have a gut feeling he will win? Yes. But that’s all I got. No stats. No numbers. Just a feeling. And the same is true for everyone else on both sides of the aisle, whether they realize it or not.
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MICHAEL WALSH
Romney by an electoral college landslide — more than 300 votes. The swing states will all swing the same way; Romney stuns Obama early in Pennsylvania, then cruises through Virginia, North Carolina, and Florida.
Romney’s upper Midwest strategy pays off when bellwether Wisconsin pays back the Democrats for their recall treachery and delivers the state to the GOP.
The Republicans keep the House and narrowly retake the Senate, even without Todd Akin, who’s this year’s Sharron Angle and Christine O’Donnell rolled into one.
There are minor civil disturbances, quickly quelled. On Wednesday, the stock market goes up 300 points. Hiring booms. Flowers bloom. Pretty girls smile again. The sun comes out.
And we do it again four years later.
– Michael Walsh is weekly op-ed columnist for the New York Post and a regular contributor to National Review Online.
DR. HELEN SMITH
A few months ago, I felt depressed about the state of the country and figured that Obama would take the presidency. The country, I thought, was filled with too many people intent on entitlements and looking for a handout rather than those willing to take personal responsibility for themselves and their lives. Of course, at the other extreme are their enablers: those at the high end of society who have so much and live in such a bubble that they are shielded from or think they are shielded from too much government intervention. Either way, I had doubt in my fellow Americans to turn things around and lead our country back to its roots of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
My husband Glenn and I interviewed Mitt Romney on our old podcast shows a couple of times, and the first time I heard Governor Romney’s voice, I felt that he was a good guy. As I see him in action on the campaign trail, I feel that way more than ever. He wants Americans to have jobs, to keep more of what they earn, and to have the opportunity to grow their businesses and dreams in a free society. Obama, not so much.
That said, two people have changed my pessimism about the election. First, my husband Glenn, who has never wavered in his faith that Romney will win, even months and months ago when it seemed impossible. We were at dinner one night with an entrepreneur and reader of Glenn’s blog who said that Instapundit was the only place he could go that made it sound like Romney had a chance. Another place I turned for encouragement was Roger Kimball’s blog. He also believes that Romney will win and win big.
And now as I see the crowds and the momentum that Romney is building, I have hope that Romney might win, just as Glenn and Roger Kimball do. I am naturally a pessimist at times, but I predict (hope, pray?) that the American people will not let the great American experiment go down the drain that easily. I predict and hope for a Romney win.
But even if my prediction doesn’t happen, I take comfort in the knowledge that there are a great many people in this country who will continue to fight to keep the American dream alive and will not let one man and his enablers destroy the vision that has brought prosperity to so many.
As far as the GOP and the Senate races go, I don’t have a clue.
– Dr. Helen Smith is a forensic psychologist and a distinguished writer who has written for a variety of publications, including the Los Angeles Times, the Christian Science Monitor, and the Cleveland Plain Dealer.
RICHARD FERNANDEZ
I think Obama is stronger than most conservatives think. If the president’s base were fully mobilized, he might win re-election despite his poor first-term record by 51-49. A recent poll showed that certain sectors, like ideological liberals, are really locked into him, and while other groups might be less loyal it is nevertheless the case that much of his base will vote for him because they “can’t vote for Romney.”
However, the confidence conservatives feel is real. But that confidence is based on the comparative difference in the motivations between the two sides this year. Obama’s supporters may be loyal, but they are dispirited. Their heart is no longer in the fight. Taking this into consideration, the probable popular result is probably 48-52, advantage Romney.
The Democrats know this and they are putting their trust in the discontinuous nature of Electoral College vote tallies and their “ground game.” If they can get the swing states, by any means necessary, then even the smallest of popular margins will give them all their electoral votes. Using this structural difference, they hope to edge Obama past Romney in EVs.
But in all of these calculations, everything depends on factors which cannot be accurately predicted. Just how energized are the conservatives? Just how dispirited are the liberals? Just how effective will the “ground game” be? Because the margins are so narrow and the true coefficients of the factors are only estimates, the election can “break” much more sharply than one might think.
Think of this as a pencil standing on its eraser. The forces unbalancing the pencil are very small, but when it tips it will go big either way.
If I were to guess, there’s a 50% chance it will be Romney by a squeaker, a 30% chance it will be Romney by a landslide, and a 20% chance Obama will pull it off. The House will stay with the GOP. The Senate is probably going to be retained by the Democrats. But in the event of a Romney landslide, there’s a small chance it will go to the Republicans.
The future is hard to predict, principally because it hasn’t happened yet.
– Richard Fernandez has been a software developer for nearly 15 years.
J. CHRISTIAN ADAMS
Romney will win because Catholic voters, particularly in the belt from Harrisburg to Minnesota, break for Romney. Obama will lose the election because he invaded one of the most sacred American traditions — religious liberty. There will be a surprise or two for Romney in either Pennsylvania, Michigan, Iowa, or Wisconsin. The Senate, however, remains barely in Democrat hands. Lackluster candidates and lackluster campaigns in places like Virginia, Missouri, Indiana, Florida, and Montana keep the Senate 53-47 Democrat.
– J. Christian Adams is an election lawyer who served in the Voting Rights Section at the U.S. Department of Justice.
DAVID P. GOLDMAN
The Senate is virtually a lost cause due to Republican errors in Kansas and Indiana. The presidency is a toss-up. The crosswinds are too strong to calculate the vector sum. It is astonishing that Barack Obama, who did a terrible job on the economy and made no friends on any major issue, should have a chance at re-election. He is playing to fear. As Joe Biden put it ever so clearly in the VP debate, “Who do you trust” to keep the welfare coming? The number of Americans receiving some kind of means-tested federal support rose from 20% in 2008 to 32% today. Romney’s message of entrepreneurial revival may not resonate. Most of the entrepreneurs who took a shot during the past fifteen years were carried out in body bags. Venture capital has underperformed the traded indices by a huge margin. Corporate America is cartelized to an extent we have not seen since the 1950s. We are in the middle of an unprecedented retirement wave for which Americans are financially unprepared, after the 40% median per capita wealth decline of 2008-2012. And we have a burgeoning underclass that is white as well as black or Hispanic. Forty percent of all births in 2011 were outside of marriage. We don’t know to what extent Americans feel beaten. If they feel beaten, they will vote their fears and re-elect Obama, and the country’s decline will accelerate. I am hoping and praying for a Romney victory. But it’s beyond my capacity to forecast.
– David P. Goldman joined PJM after nearly 10 years of anonymous essaying at Asia Times Online and two years of editing and writing at First Things.
ANDREW KLAVAN
I very rarely make political predictions because predictions generally involve the future, and since the future hasn’t actually happened yet it’s often very difficult to know anything about it. If I were asked to predict the past, I wouldn’t hesitate.
What I do often do, however, is ask other people for their political predictions and listen carefully to the ones who have been right in the past. Whenever I have done that this fall, I have been told that the election will be very close and when the smoke clears Obama will have won by a small margin. Most of these people believe, in one way or another, either that human nature is such or that our culture has been degraded to the point that the majority will prefer promises of free stuff to actual freedom.
In fact, I do not believe this. I believe Mitt Romney is going to win by a fairly large margin. I believe this will happen because, ideology aside, Obama has done a bad job as president and everyone knows it, including the left, and Romney has made the case for himself.
So now you know everything I know. Don’t bet dinner on it. I already did that.
– Andrew Klavan is an award-winning author, screenwriter, and media commentator.
ION MIHAI PACEPA
There is no doubt in my mind that the overwhelming majority of Americans will vote for Mitt Romney. The United States became the leader of the world because of its successful capitalist economy, and most Americans will do everything in their power to protect their country’s free, capitalist market. Unfortunately there are more and more reports that some voting machines are changing Romney votes into Obama votes – the Chicago political machine is well-known for such shenanigans, as well as for “vote early and often.” For this reason, we may need the November 2012 and the November 2014 elections — when 33 of the 100 seats in the U.S. Senate will be challenged — in order to fully restore America’s traditional capitalism.
This brings me to our PJ Media. Not long ago it published an imperative editorial signed by its CEO, Roger Simon, titled “Changing Minds in Crunch Time.” That editorial might be even more timely now than it was then. The Democratic Party’s nomenklatura spent $5 trillion (with a T) to buy American votes for its socialist agenda, and we should therefore start a new offensive, this time aimed at helping all Americans understand that in the end the only thing socialism has left behind it are countries looking like trailer camps hit by a hurricane. All the leaders of the former socialist paradise countries have ended up in hell — all, from Trotsky to Stalin, from Tito to Zhivkov, Enver Hoxha to Mátyás Rakosi, Sékou Touré to Nyeree. All had their days of temporary glory, but all ended in eternal disgrace. Some, like Khrushchev and Ceausescu, were even found unworthy of having their final resting place marked by any gravestone. A few remnants, like Fidel Castro and Hugo Chavez, are still hanging on, but they certainly have a place reserved and waiting for them in the netherworld.
American essayist George Santayana, an immigrant like me, used to say that those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
– Ion Mihai Pacepa is the highest-ranking official ever to have defected from the former Soviet bloc.
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Very pithy. Thankth for tharing.
What a bunch of unmitigated, uninformed, over-educated assholes ponticating total bull dung on subjects they obviously zilch about.
Regarding VDH: “Three things are happening in Obama’s favor. First, the time between the debate lengthens, and the electorate now seems him prancing around in a bomber jacket….”
I read this a lot and I don’t get it. What else would he do? This is like an entire stadium giving a standing ovation to a 1B who scoops a routine ground ball near the bag and steps on first before some fatso DH is halfway down the line.
If Mr. Bomber Jacket wipes out your memory of $6 trillion in debt, a dead ambassador, the upcoming Fiscal Cliff, You’ll Know What’s In The Bill When We Pass It, high unemployment, high gas prices, etc., what the hell are you doing anywhere near a voting booth or anything else that requires rational thinking?
Maybe these blockheads actually exist, but the idea that they do in enough numbers to affect the election makes no sense to me.
VDH and everyone else are abdicating leadership. To tell the truth would require being the leader of a rebellion and being a target. There will be a rebellion if Obama wins and many of us will die but we know Roger, Victor or Claudia won’t be our leaders.
Hey lighten up a bit. VDH et al are clear thinking, articulate and tireless in the pursuit of logic and truth. All the while fighting against the much larger and better funded forces of darkness in the MSM.
As for revolution, you may actually be on to something. If the current state of affairs in government doesn’t elicit a “throw the bums out” vote, then nothing ever will. At some point those of us who believe that big government is at odds with the sovereignty of the individual will be duty bound to engage in civil disobedience. We may not be called on to die, but perhaps to be harassed, sued, economically crippled and even jailed. Personally, I would join a group who refuses to pay that portion of taxes that we feel goes toward illegitimate government functions and for debt service on excessive borrowing. If there were enough of us, we could have an impact. And they couldn’t through all of us in jail, could they?
Its “throw.” You don’t begin to get it. Revolution doesn’t mean paddying around with a letter to your congressman. It means taking your gun to the streets and killing people. And getting killed. It means destruction, anarchy in spots, cruelty, torture, arson, rape, devastation. Your watered down version is unreal. And, yes, it could take place. But it is unlikely. As a nation we are fat and soft, even cowardly. And certainly without a communal morality with which to bind us together into a cohesive force. Lacking that religion, moral code, weltanschaung, we remain the Disunited States, having voluntarily relinquished that ethical glue which once held us together. We are forced to choose between a socialist mormon and a communist moslem in a nation now openly hostile to christianity. Hell of a choice. Still, the value of Freedom is transcendent. The
mantra of Patrick Henry rings out, “Give me liberty or give me death.” Those are the real options for real people.
We have met the enemy, said Pogo, and he is us.He is the incumbent administration and its appointees; all incredibly evil persons. He is congress, hypocritically pretending to oppose the Psychopath-in-Chief while regularly surrendering to himwhile he is surrounded and helpless. It is, ultimately, the electorate: ignorant, stupid, amoral, criminal, insisting on a King without conscience or even common sense, yearning for chaos and catastrophe, hungering to see their descendants enslaved to a globalist elite- in return for bailouts, foodstamps, governmental handouts of whatever kind. These are the illegitimates- those who would sell their children for an Esautic bowl of soup. Damn them!
Thank you for correcting my spelling which I blame on the autocorrect feature in Word.
But I think it is you that doesn’t get it, Che. All that tough talk at this point is a little ridiculous. The situation at this point is that a majority of Americans (by keeping big government people in place for their own benefit) are complicit in financially abusing the rest of us. Just think about public service unions: they can say anything they want about their rights, but the fact of the matter is that they only benefit form high wages, exorbitant lifetime pensions, benefits and lax work rules because the rest of us don’t get those things. If we all got them, then the standard of living for everyone would sink out of site as our collective productivity plummeted and prices rose. We have to fight back economically.
But we’ve may be at the point where the democratic process is irretrievably broken. So the next step is civil disobedience. If that doesn’t work, because the government uses force against a large group of defiant citizens, then I am sure – as in the past – many Americans will prove to be as tough as you are trying to sound.
The harassment has already begun. I know of people who are facing IRS audits, or received surprise code inspections of their businesses, shortly after making a public comment or donating to a particular candidate. Whole groups of Americans are under attack, per Agenda 21, as well. Last month, the FDA went on the warpath, finding a way around the legal battle they lost a few years ago. Now, I can’t purchase the medication my mother needs for a specific health issue at any price, from anywhere. Millions of others are now in the same boat, scrambling to find some sort of alternative. Licensed firearms sellers are down under 600,000 and still falling nationwide. The attacks on them started with Clinton, and never ended, even under Bush.
Zombie is right, this thing can’t be predicted. For example, I’ve met over a dozen people in the last week who openly stated that they wrote in Ron Paul, or voted for Garry Johnson. Many of them were Democrats (I’m in Southern California). Both parties will try to blame any losses on these voters, and both will be lying. My guess is, on Tuesday the nation will be blanketed in hanging chads. When we do get the results, few will believe them. Then, as Victor Davis Hanson says, all hell really will break loose.
I’m pretty sure the aforementioned have no desire nor have they stated that they do to be our “leaders”. VDH, as I glean, just wants to make some quality vino and enjoy the weather in California. Would that he and we could do so. His willingness to go on the record with his thoughts is gravy.
Yay! Civil war! Do we lefties get to shoot back?
Nope. Killing is wrong. Violence doesn’t solve anything. Two wrongs don’t make a right. And we have most of the guns.
Somehow, I suspect you won’t be on the front lines, with an actual gun in your hands. I too have fantasies, the primary one being a left-handed power hitter for the Dodgers.
Correct. I will not be in the front lines. I’ll be hiding in the trees, sniping at collectivists with my Remington 700.
Only a Lefty would ask permission to shoot back.
LMAO and true.
“Rebellion”? “Many of us will die”? Crazy talk even for PJM – and that’s goin’ some. I sure hope the Secret Service takes note these wingnut loonies who threaten violence and seem to have the run of PJM.
Actually, the Secret Service is too busy right now protecting the guy with ACTUAL blood on his hands, who hangs out with people who ACTUALLY killed other Americans with BOMBS, to worry about some insignificant tough talk on the internet…
But thanks for the concern
Unfortunately, a lot of people can’t/don’t read. Even more people couldn’t write down ONE TRILLION in digits if their lives depended on it. But images reach these people. That’s why the shots of 30,000+ crowds for Romney are very good…..
Obama’s recovering because of the MSM has been working overtime to rehabilitate him.
This morning, a relative visiting my house had the Today show on (which I never watch) and it was just one long “re-elect Obama” commercial.
First, the hur. Sandy coverage was all about physical damage (boats in yards, destroyed houses) and destroyed infrastructure. Normally, these shows fall all over themselves with “human impact” stories, but today, not a single resident interviewed, or even shown on camera. Clear subtext: masterful handling of huge disaster by Pres. Obama. (Must have heard the term “President Obama” ten times in 45 minutes).
Next, it was gas prices. They’re dropping like a safe! everything’s wonderful! Clear subtext: masterful Obama.
Next: cherry-picked polls showing Obama ahead comfortably in Iowa and Viginia and Romney’s campaigning in Pennsylvania described, literally, as “last ditch” with the clear subtext: desperation.
Everthing was upbeat, rosy and rah! rah! rah!
Uncritical viewers subjected to this drumbeat will naturally come back to the incumbent.
Matt Lauer and Co. are nothing but filthy, corrupt propogandist tools and the rest of the MSM are no better.
Words like ‘blockhead’, ‘sheep’, ‘takers’, ‘nanny-staters’, ‘dependent class’, etc., are not very accurate. What you mean to say is: “non-white”. Big-city problems correlate precisely with majority-black/Hispanic populations. Blue States, with their nightmare governments and budget crises are majority-minority. Everybody knows if O’bwana wins another term, Red States (i.e., whites) are gonna bail our the big Blue States. In every case, in every crisis, whites are gonna pay for non-whites’ benefits and sustenance. Sorry, all you Enlightenment types, there is no such thing as a people/nation based on any philosophy. Nations (note the root ‘nat-’ birth) are, first and foremost, groups of genetically related individuals. The Nation is the furthest possible extension of the family. Any entity referred to as an “American nation” is comprised solely of the original American people — English (Anglo-Saxons), Germans, Swedes, Hollanders, and the Celts (Scots, Irish, Welsh). Nobody else. And all groups either Germanic or Celtic peoples of NW Europe. Not very diverse at all. The Americans who passed the Immigration Acts of the early 20s explicitely recognized this fact in defining the groups of immigrants allowed under the quota system they set up. If you know anyone who breeds livestock or propagates plants, ask him about genetics.
Not entirely. There are huge swaths of poor white people whose union-supporting grandparents worked in the factories or the mines or on farms, who saw those industries disappear, who now live in virtual ghost towns and depend on government assistance to get by. They’ll go for the Democrat every time.
“What you mean to say is: “non-white”
No.
Not at all.
THE most dangerous, corrupt, intrenched, negatively influential, duplicious, arrogant, lying commie scum that are endangering this nation, are as white as I am.
Teachers Union in my town 100% white.
The Democrats on the school board who shovel money their way, 100% white.
The Commies that actually teach my kids in the classroom, 100% white
The lefty do-gooders, the Quakers, the Upscale Starbucksters, the vegans, the hip shop owners, the Prius Drivers and the owner of every SINGLE Obama sticker I encounter on every, on every Volvo Wagon, Subaru Forester, BMW, Audi, Lexus, Escalade, as well as EVERY SINGLE HOME in my neighborhood that have Obama signs in the yards, belong to white as milk liberals shitheads here in the guilty white ‘burbs.
Bernadette Dorn, Bill Ayres, Jane Fonda, 99.9% of college professors AND their students (I’m 20 mins. from Princeton U, I see them all the time) not to mention the overwhelming Majority of ALL the “pretty faces” on yacking on every screen, app and broadcast you can find, all have these two things things in common….
White skin.
Left Politics.
Assuming ALL blacks/browns/yellows and whatever “colors” you can imagine that are are “non-white” are on the Political Left, thats what, 25-30 % of the population?
You think they add up to the same number of all those dumb white liberals?
You think 70-75% of Whites in America are Hard-core Conservative Republicans, Rugged Individualists, Proud Constitutionalists, Self Sufficient Freedom Loving Gun Toting Patriots and Veterans?
No my friend.
Not by a longshot.
The overwhelming majority of people with the “shitty political views” that are destroying this country, are WHITE.
I’m sorry Jacobite but I completely disagree with your post.
Who were the original Americans? Did you forget about the Cherokee or the Sioux or maybe the Iriquois or the Apache or Comanche?
Don’t forget the Africans came here against their will brought by the Spanish and bought by the English, Welsh, and others then used which was disgusting and wrong.
Your post paints the steroetyped picture that the Left loves to throw at us and I will do everything to distance myself from that kind of bigotry as much as from the equally disgusting bigotry of the left.
I am proud to be a conservative and by that I mean I love true freedom for all men. We are a nation of immigrants from all backgrounds and all nationalities. We are nation of law and liberty and we must stand United or we will fall.
I am proud that I can stand alongside such figures as Frederick Douglas, Marco Rubio, Martin Luther King Jr, Ronald Reagan and others and espouse the Constitution which is for the United States of America.
As far as extended family goes I realize that in some way I am related to all men of all backgrounds that can be traced back to Noah and then on to Adam. To believe anything else, as a Christian, is un Biblical.
“As a nation of free men we must live through all time or die by suicide”
I have great esteem for VDH and put much stock in his opinions, but I think Obama prancing around in his Air Force One bomber jacket graphically points up his venality. Add to that Obama’s assertion that “voting is the best revenge” and I see a diminished, petty and shallow man. On the other hand, Romney looking solid and competent in his suit and tie, smiling and optimistic, comes across as a true leader who understands what’s at stake and properly urges us to vote “for love of America”.
I believe there’s a groundswell of voters like me (purposely ignored by a corrupt MSM) who view the race in those terms, and we’re the ones who will make Romney our next President.
From July to Today I have beleived and still believe;
Obama will win, California, New York, Illinois, Vermont and the District of Columbia.
Obama May win Washington, Oregon, Maine, and Hawaii.
All other states will vote Romney.
The republicans will gain 12 in the Senate and hold the House with 7 to 11 seats gained.
The Popular Vote Split will be – Romney 54 Obama 45
Romney by 60 electoral votes and 3.5% popular votes.
Wow, I want Romney to win but that is beyond delusional
Final result Romney wins EC 295-243 GOP comes up short by 1 seat in the Senate 51-49
However I have this theory that Joe Manchin may pull a Zell Miller & vote to for MacConnell as Majority Leader this giving the GOP the majority theu the VP tiebreaker.
No. Joe Manchin is only conservative in the case of coal regulations. On every other issue he is a flaming lefty and a toadie of Reid. He’s distancing himself from Obama because a felon took nearly as many votes as Obama in the Democrat primary in WV, not because he disagrees with him.
I dunno. If the Dems see the error of their ways, Manchin could be a very attractive Democratic candidate for president in 8 years….
Romney will win big, and the Republicans will have Congress and the Senate as well. Full house.
The economy, the unemployment rate and, to a lesser extent, the silence on Benghazi won’t be ignored. Solyndra and Fast & Furious should be campaign issues but the Left’s media press agents have succeeded in burying them. However, the enthusiastic crowds for R & R are like none I can remember. And I sense pervasive if largely unspoken disallusionment with The One. Widespread fraud could still carry him across the finish line; but I don’t see an Obama win otherwise.
So society’s Makers will prevail, for now.
I’m disappointed! A lot of waffling here. A lot of excuses and hedging your bets.
Zombie and Roger Kimball at least give honest committed answers.
Really, me too..
Quite a lot of nonsense here, but THIS from Mr. Fernandez concerning Obama is actually INSULTING:
“A recent poll showed that certain sectors, like ideological liberals, are really locked into him”
Ya think!?
We all know “much of his base will vote for him because they “can’t vote for Romney.”
But do we REALLY need “recent polls” to break the news that IDEOLOGICAL LIBERALS will support him no matter what?
Gee, thanks for that STUNNING analysis.
I’ve never IMAGINED such a concept, till just now
I accept your challenge. :^)
Romney will take 58% of the popular vote but 58% of the Electoral College (312 EVs), is unreachable. Romney will get lots of support in the swing states but fall a little short of capturing them.
George Will claims Romney will take Minnesota’s 10 EVs (?!) and win 321-217. NOT!
Back out the Minnesota win and 312 is the upper limit for Republicans.
Karl Rove’s own prediction of 279 is 52% of the Electoral College, is how I thought things would end as early as mid-August. I hate to agree with Rove on anything but his estimate will be closer than Will’s.
Final tally for Electoral College: 52/48–a narrow Romney win.
I saw a sign – “Obama or America, you can’t have both.” Perfect.
I prefer to believe the idea that Romney will win in a landslide. But if he loses, investigations or impeachment proceedings will be unnecessary because it will be too late to save the country. If we get a bad result and Obama wins, the country is already lost and we are doomed. I include a comment I left in response to a John O’Sullivan column on Benghazi:
There can be many speculations why this administration left these people unprotected and therefore this administration can be held responsible for the murder by terrorists of those in the embassy. Liberals will console themselves with theories that we don’t know the underlying reasons and we shouldn’t speculate.
I am not so easily consolable.
I have two theories.
The most popular one is that Obama bragged that Osama is dead and Al Qaeda is on the run. To protect these people would admit that Al Qaeda is organized and powerful and needed American military might to rout in this instance. Far better to rely on a cooperative press to repress this until after the election. Then any investigation could be labeled political sour grapes.
The second reason and even more pernicious is that Obama hates America, hates our importance and needs to destroy our strong military. What better way than to keep our troops terrified that our own government does not put the security of our troops in the forefront? Knowing how deplorably lame the administration was in this event, who would want to volunteer to serve under such a government? First step in undermining America’s self defense is under way.
Those two plus arms and men from Libya to Turkey to Syria, Oh My !
and please do not make the mistake of blaming Obama for everything;
He is merely the point man of the spear aimed at the heart of the US.
It really doesn’t matter why Obama refused to rescue our embassy. The fact is, he knew they were under attack and deliberately refused to come to their rescue. He wanted the islamic jihadists to win. It doesn’t matter why. He ensured their victory at the cost of american lives and must be arrested, tried, convicted and executed;perhaps prior to rendition to a tribe of melanesian cannibals.
The adult Americans see the damage and destruction the Obama administration
has wrought on our nation. They see the wasted trillions; the Marxist
thinking of appointed czars. We want our proud, strong, working
America back. Romney is the man to lead our nation on the path
to prosperity and financial responsibility. He is a man of integrity,
Impeccable character and he will lead us with his vast business
experience. He loves America and is proud to stand and salute our
flag unlike Obama. I believe Romney will win this election by a
landslide.
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No. 8 is a bit harsh, but not totally off base.
A worm’s view, from the gutter next to the barricades:
Most Americans are neither sheep nor corrupt or stupid. A large majority will vote for Romney.
Michael Barone is in a class all his own. Number 2, Dick Morris, also agrees with him. If you want to see a true imbecile at work, have a look at Krugman.
As for the rest, Claudia Rosett slices it right in every way, except for her unnecessarily balanced view on Tweets (they suck in all directions, all day, in every way). Gratuitous sideswipe en passant: unlike a few PJ pundits, she has the courage, knowledge and analytical skills not to duck out and retreat into false modesty. You guys all have robust egos, but CYA is unseemly.
Biggest mystery: New York effects, which right now matter more than Benghazi. Maybe the difference between a solid win and a landslide.
It all plays out against a background most see clearly: Romney is an Executive Summary plodder, a mediocre checker of boxes, but Obama is an unprecedented disaster unique in our history.
Hell, I’d put Carter on Mount Rushmore to get rid of O and the missus.
“Hell, I’d put Carter on Mount Rushmore to get rid of O and the missus”
-this sums it up nicely
Exactly! Too much waffeling! You guys sound like a bunch of CIA analysts saying “this could happen or that could happen.” Well, DUH! LBJ once said about one of his cabinet members, “You remind me of a teacher in Texas. He was asked whether he believed if he thought the world was flat or round. He replied, ‘I can teach it either way.’” Same stuff here.
Romney in a close one but we don’t get the Senate & do keep the House. Now, see how easy that was?
Yes. This to me seems the most likely. My state (MT) will flip its Governor and one Senator from blue to red as well- Senator, Governor, & our one lonely Representative all (R) because of Obama. We’ll get the other Senator next round.
At the state and local level, Obama is helping the Republican surge of 2010 keep rolling along. Here, people are just not sure enough that Obama will lose, hence everything else is being painted red as a reaction, or barricade against the oncoming onslaught of taxes & regulations should he win.
In Tejas, pardner, we know that the world ain’t flat becuz we got the hill country. If’n y’all cain’t get a rope aroun’ that, y’all better try the next ranch over, ’cause your kinda rain ain’t all thet wet here!
And, to Joe Wills: We immediately limit welfare to those who truly cannot, cannot, cannot provide for themselves. My guesstimate is about ten percent of the current recipients. We also shring government to only that which is absolutely essential- probably a similar reduction. When those who feed at the public trough find it suddenly empty they will, amazingly, find all sorts of ways to keep food on the table. Small business startups, subsistence farming, military service, emigrations, etc., come to mind, off the top.Actually looking for work would solve the problems of many. And there is nothing in the constitution that requires, or even permits, federal government to assume responsibility for employment opportunities. Such is the responsibility of the individual.
Agree with Michael Walsh and the landslide contingent. People have Obama pegged now and the enthusiasm level on the GOP side is as high as I’ve ever seen it. I’m going with Barone–315, maybe more, Romney. And eight points. I also don’t think the storm changed anything.
Michael Walsh for a cabinet position! I agree with you assessment and choose to spend the next 48 hours with real HOPE.
Agree with everyone about the unreliability of polls. But most recent CNN poll points to a comfortable Romney win due to the internals. it’s tied at 49% with a D+11 sample, and independents are breaking for Romney by 22 points. D+11 is an absurd sample as that is several points higher than the actual results in 2008. CNN had to heavily skew their final poll in favor of Obama in order to show it tied. I like Romney’s chances.
I think we can take the senate too, due to Republican enthusiasm and Romney coattails, but I am concerned about Indiana and Missouri, obviously.
Your comment is grounded in reality. D+11 gets them a tie in an election that will be, at worst, D=R and more likely R+1-R+3. The BICOM – the Biased Incompetent Corrupt Obamaphilic Media has run push polls throughout the campaign and the vast majority of useless conservative pundits have been too stupid to look at the internals and unskew them based on more sensible turnout scenarios.
Some people think the polls are unreliable because of the low response rate. If so, one should then look to four things. 1. The size of the crowds on the campaign trail presage a Romney landslide. 2. Obama’s record is indeed pitiful and even Bill Clinton can’t rescue it. 3. Romney killed Obama in the debates. One man was presidential. The other was a petulant punk. 4. The Obama/Fluke war on religion will turn out to have been a serious mis-calculation. It got them very little of increased women’s vote and the unintended consequences are that a majority of Catholics no longer support Obama and Evangelicals will turn out in droves for Romney.
The CYA predictions here are dismaying but hardly surprising. Republicans are in dire need of better pundits. I would have like to have seen David Solway’s prediction. He might have said that a Romney landslide will be poetic justice.
The skewed polls may be a blessing in disguise, by increasing the fervor of the anti-Obama vote.
Dont forget the Roast they did. Romney KILLED Obama on major issues in a humorous way, but most of us could really see the underlining FACTS about O’s policies.Including throwing Big-bird back in his face to show just how desperate O’s becoming.Obama had nothing really to bash Romney with.
The problem with the polls is that Rasmussen currently calls it a tie, which means it will probably be decided in the swing states where voter fraud is rampant. If Rasmussen had a 3-5% swing, then the fraudulent polls could be confidently discounted…but that is not the case.
Shockingly, I learned yesterday that Ohio has voting-day registration. If that is true, what can prevent the criminals from busing in a million people from Michigan?
Rasmussen’s poll sampling does not reflect his own findings when it comes to Party ID and enthusiasm. On the latter, he is showing GOP advantage but he is still hedging his bets by giving Dems a sampling advantage.
I think he is sore from being called “GOP’s favorite pollster” and he is being super, super cautious.
Rasmussen was on Fox last week saying the turnout will be D+2. At the same time, he was publishing his latest results using a D+4 sample. So you are exactly right. If Rasmussen has Romney up one using a D+4 sample his polls actually predict a 5 point Romney win if turnout is R=D.
With my eyes I see Romney signs sprouting up all over my blue NE Ohio suburban neighborhood. With my ears I hear subdued whispers and grim determination at my blue employer. Among the young I hear very little. There are still some Obama-worshippers but they stand out as exceptions. With my mind I see no way to conduct a valid poll. Polls can detect shifts but they have no way to measure the base case.
In my heart, I know that the America itself is at stake. After 4 more years there will be no turning back. The American people will have sold out their birthright for a bowl of porridge. There will be a permanent majority of people dependent on a shrinking government check and ready to riot keep it.
Obama has crossed the line again and again. It is the duty of the American people to vote him out of office. Most Americans today do not understand this and consequently our constitutional order hangs by a thread.
That’s nice to hear about NE Ohio. I lived in eastern cuyahoga county for a few years and I think I met 10 conservatives the entire time I was there.
Last week I drove across central Indiana and in several west Ohio counties. Romney signs everywhere. I have never witnessed so many yard signs at election time in my life. My estimate is Romney over Obama signs 20-1. In the heavily Catholic counties of west Ohio the “Protect Religious Freedom” signs are numerous. The ‘burbs around Indianapolis and Dayton are loaded with Romney signs and the more Protestant small towns have an abundance of right-to-life signs and “Save America” signs. The rural turnout will be at record highs and enough to offset the NEA and inner-city drones. My prediction. Indiana and Ohio easily for Romney with Mourdock and possibly Mandel slipping in on the wave with Mandel the weakest of the two.
Too bad for you that yard signs can’t vote.
Ohio we are counting on you!!!!! I will vote in Connecticut but with a bitter taste because I know on the “for President” line my vote is virtually meaningless. This goes for everybody in Pennsylvania, Virginia, New Hampshire and Wisconsin!! Get out and vote and drag along all right-minded friends!! Those of us in the ‘irrelevant’ states are counting one you!
No, your vote is not meaningless. No matter that all the dark forces of evil in this Universe are aligned against you, doesn’t matter if they are looking overwhelming.
Your vote is an expression happening in that moment when you look deep in your soul, make a commitment in your mind: not in my name, not with my approval. Then, you are a free man who can walk proud in life, knowing you made the correct choice by not sanctioning the depravation of others.
Let them know their victory is not total -if any at all, the theirs is not a mandate and that decent people will not surrender. Take your right-minded friends, get out and vote. We are also counting one you!
Absolutely excellent comment. I live in New York and, yeh, it feels “helpless” voting for the Right-Guy Romney and the whole state going to Benghazi Barry none-the-less. But, I’m cheered by your comment!
Yes, we need Ohio!
Why? Hurricane Sandy….
NY, NJ, & Conn. are BLUE blue, no matter what. Sandy has NO effect on them going for Romney, its just not ever gonna happen, those states are gone forever. But imaginary “storm suppressed voting” in purple-ish Pennsylvania WILL be a litigious item for Obama to exploit, if he loses the election by PA.
Stand by as he pulls a Bengazi….and just lies about what we already know happened, and he does it with a straight face.
The Facts and the Electors will be settled, and he will say:
“…well, look, we all know this is still its under investigation”
And:
“…the Justice Department is not finished examining the evidence and hasn’t made its final recommendation”
as if they have any say in the matter.
People will say “Dude, you LOST!” and the response will be:
“…look, no one wants to get to the bottom of this more than we do… but we cant rush to judgment before we have all the facts….The effects of this unprecedented storm were something the Founders could not have imagined…and no one…no one…should have their vote left un-accounted for, because overwhelmed local systems and administrations were hampered by the aftermath of the Worst Storm since The Great Depression…
Followed by:
“…rushing to declare something this important, on what is essentially an artificial timeline given that we have until January 20th to be sure we have it right, is not justice to the disinfranchised…so I’ve directed Federal Resources to engage with these local communities to determine what exactly occurred, and how we can make sure we have the correct solutions in place to move forward…we can do this ourselves, the way it was intended…we don’t need the Supreme Court to chose the President for us this time”
And our jaws will drop as this guy simply ignores the election results, and sends Eric Holder and his DNC lawyers to all the Sunday Talk Shows, explaining how the election is undetermined, and still actually ongoing…. AND TELL US THATS THE WAY ITS SUPPOSED TO BE.
And he will have till Inauguration Day, two full months, with the nodding compliant assistance and approval of an angry and, shall we say, “VENGEFUL” media, to make the premise of this story “stick”…and eventually fraud-out enough newly created, Eric Holder supervised, Philadelphia-centric “post storm remediation ballots” to insure “justice” is met.
I’m telling you people, this absolutely WILL HAPPEN in Pennsylvania, if Romney wins by PA alone
Which is why we must hope for one of two outcomes: 1) an electoral landslide, such that no one state’s results could flip the election, or 2) an electoral tie, sending it to the House. Personally, I’m hoping for option 1 here; I well remember how Jimmah Carter, the first media-selected president, got his clock cleaned in ’80, and how he said it was “humbling”. Not that it’s likely anything could humble the POSinWH, but it is long past time Icarus fell to earth.
Elephant4Life:
Big ears hear the samllest things dont they?
We gotta get to Option 1.
Option 2 means “white racist republicans from the south” chose to “lynch” the most beautiful metro-sexual hip urban cool guy of their wettest dreams.
There will be no forgiving that outcome. The media will double down on their race baiting riot encouraging class warfare regional mockery attitude, and Mitt will never get anything acomplished.
We have to win, and win BIG.
The knives are out, and the folks holding them will be merciless unless we have an “indisputable mandate” from the country at large.
Anything less will be dismissed as a fluke deserving zero respect.
You got your wish….it was pretty much an electoral landslide. For Obama.
I would like every single columnists – and posters – who make such brash prognostics, to make the following promise:
-I you are wrong, you will admit that you were wrong, and admit you do not know what you are talking about.
-Then, you will disappear and shut up forever.
styx
…which effectively leads to no one commenting on anything that involves judgement or analysis. Your suggestion, while not only exceedingly cynical, is also rather petty. Columnists are paid to offer their views in an unsure world where none of us are omniscient. Only when people are able to obtain God-like knowledge does your comment begin to make sense.
… and since nobody has God-like knowledge, I would rather see humility in predictions than pompous forecasts. I trust someone who realizes he/she might be wrong more than one who walks around with complete certitude.
Some of the columnists quoted are humble. All the power to them. But others are not – and these people need to be brought to task when they are proven wrong.
-styx
Yo are bothered by the “brash prognostications”? Well, boo hoo. Such are merely trying to communicate their level of confidence, while the more “humble” are doing the same, showing a lower level of confidence. This is entirely appropriate. No one requires that you read their opinions. In fact, you don’t even need to come here, at all….
This is ridiculous. Columnists have every right to predict whatever they like. You are free to accept/reject, agree/disagree with them. Should you prefer more cautious prognostications, you are free to go read other blogs more in line with your own thoughts, ideology.
” Only when people are able to obtain God-like knowledge does your comment begin to make sense”
But Obama HAS God-like knowledge….
Havent you seen all the “halo” images the media has been promoting all these years?
If anyone can tell ME who has God-like knowledge, its the Mainstream Media…
And they have spoken, so its a done deal…
(you ignorant racist)
Romney 330+. Stay calm and finish him. Senate goes 50/50 and we keep the House.
I agree with Zombie, seems the most realist here.
I like what Claudia Rosett and Helen Smith said, because they point out that most of the uncertainty goes deep to the character of Americans today, i.e., a cultural thing more than mere polls: is the entitlement people becoming the new norm here or true Americans are retaking the country? Beside the polls and the feelings, it all boils down to that.
However, I expect the results described by Michael Walsh.
Don’t despair.. RELOAD! 8)
If it were an honest, normal election, I believe Romney would win, and by a fairly comfortable margin.
But this election is neither normal nor honest.
Honesty : All those reports about “wrongly calibrated” voting machines that has BHO’s bloc running into Romney’s has me converned. And it’s not like the Democrats haven’t a long history of “finding” uncounted ballots that are always amazingly close to what they know they need to win close elections (Gregiore, Franken, probably many more).
Second, BHO is black. Does that matter? It *might*. Lots of people voted as they did in 2008 because of what they thought was “racial loyalty” (not just blacks, but lots of “people of color” did so) while many whites voted to show how non racist they are . (I can’t help thinking stupid people of all colors voted for BHO in 2008 because of the multiple depictions of black presidents we saw in Hollywood movies and on TV from 1990 on .) The belief that their vote for BHO and their continued support for him “proves” their moral superiority over everyone who did NOT vote or does NOT support him is still there : I am STILL seeing liberal trolls flouncing onto threads at conservative sites and proclaiming that the only reason anyone has a problem with anything BHO does is his melanin level. Could self congratulation make people vote for BHO in 2012 even though he has been an unmitigated disaster? It might…Possibly *because* he’s been a disaster. If perceived moral superiority and self congratulation is all you have left in an economy that’s gone to hell, you’ll cling to it.
I pray Barone and those Colorado professors (who predicted Romney with 330 EV , using a model that thus far has an unbeaten track record) are proven right and hopefully well before 11.59 PM Tuesday night.
If the polls are correct, if this is truly a D+7/11 national election this cycle? Then Obama should have traveled to Wisconsin last June for the Scott Walker Recall. If the polling is correct, this would have made a difference, bomber-jacket and all.
This will not be another Bush v Gore either because the Democrat Party is shrinking in size. Romney wins with 353 EV and 4-5% PV.
Another reason is OBAMACARE!
If this is a D +11 cycle, Obama would be campaigning in Missouri and North Carolina right now, instead of desperately trying to hang on to Wisconsin and Pennsylvania.
Agree. Just heard that BHO is coming to Madison, Wi (“the Berkeley of the Midwest) today. If he needs to come in person to nail down Dane County, he is going down big time.
Maybe you guys should all move to the planet Kolob….you can have your fantasy country there, where there are no scary, evil immigrants to rob you of all your hard-earned money. Romney can be President for life, until he becomes a Mormon God, and you can all live together in your wonderful fantasy life.
I felt that every PJM columnist wrote something worthwhile. While it is difficult to select a favorite, I am biased towards VDH. Probably because I read so many of his books. However, Zombie ranks up at the top for her unique way of analyzing things and expressing them. She belongs in a think tank somewhere. Perhaps she in fact does.
I feel the complainers here are mad primarily because their viewpoints were not represented. Face it, nobody can predict tomorrows outcome. Ultimately, the country’s fate is in the hands of the few percent who are swing voters. And many of those likely belong to Zombie’s 91% who do not participate in polls.
So, what is my worthless opinion? I’m cautiously optimistic but also concerned for our future. I’m optimistic because of the size of Romney’s crowds. I’m pessimistic because of the reaction to Benghazi. The public should be screaming bloody murder over the bloody murder of our Ambassador and other brave Americans. Yet there is little outrage in the general public. It matters little whether they are uninformed or apathetic. It is likely they are similarly uninformed or apathetic about other critical topics, and there is nothing that can be done about it.
Zombie nailed it.
I am reminded too often these days of T.S. Eliot’s line: “Where is the knowledge we have lost in information?” (C. Rosett)
Exactly. When an ad today promises to send you “free information”, I think, egads…more ?!
I woke up thinking of another T.S. Eliot line, describing the end of America if Obama wins:
“This is the way the world ends: Not with a bang but a whimper.”
…an Obama victory would mean the country I love is not what I think it is, that it has turned into a land of thoughtless sheep. (R. Simon)
We don’t know to what extent Americans feel beaten. If they feel beaten, they will vote their fears and re-elect Obama, and the country’s decline will accelerate. (D. Goldman)
This election really is a measure of how far this nation has sunk.
Historian David McCullough was on 60 Minutes last night and observed relative to contemporary American politics:
“All these millions spent on all this babble.” (paraphrased)
I agree that Romney has lost some of his momentum and that his silence on Benghazi is regrettable, deplorable even.
A number of people have commented on Benghazi. Michael Barone had a column recently, where he talked about Scandinavian,German America, the old Northwest. He pointed out that historically it’s been the most pacifist part of America. I remember someone telling me that a number of German immigrants who came to the United States in the late 19th century did so to escape conscription under Bismarck. Romney happens to be contesting both Wisconsin and Minnesota. He’s worried about women in the suburbs. So while you may not like his silence, the guy is trying to win an election.
On the one hand Benghazi is an invisible taint in the nation’s conscience,
like a drop of blood in a cup of water, and it _will_ influence the election.
On the other hand, Benghazi is a secret stain on the nation’s diplomacy,
which cannot be erased and will be fully revealed by House investigations.
On the Gripping Hand, Benghazi will be a minor footnote in the history of
US diplomatic failure in the Middle-East, a failure which will end in war
and the economic collapse of the EU and the rest of the world.
I read all the qualifiers as to who is or isn’t saying what about what in order to offend/not offend this or that imagined bloc of voters.
I’m sick of identity politics. It is a circuitous and endless exercise, kind of like Sisyphus pushing up that rock only to have it roll back down and he has to start all over.
Romney initially commented (correctly) on the idiocy of the Cairo Embassy apology to the “Muslim world” over the video, then Candy Crowley misrepresented what Obama said September 12 on the issue of Benghazi as terrorism/not terrorism in the 2nd debate.
And the Romney camp has fallen silent. It is not a completely bad idea as we learn more every day, BUT I still wish it hadn’t become some kind of verboten topic, speaking of Germans.
First, go out and vote. Second, go home and pray. I already voted and I will be saying Tehillim (Psalms) tomorrow. G-d willing, third will be to celebrate.
Kol Hakoved
An Obama victory will be an unparalleled historical disaster. It will symbolize the end of the US as a force for good in the world. We’ll be in a losing battle to defend our own freedoms let alone be able to defend anyone else’s.
Put no trust in princes
in mortal man who cannot save.
Take their breath they return to the earth,
and their plans that day turn to nothing.
Blessed is he who is helped by Jacob’s God,
whose hope is in the LORD, his God
who made the heavens and the earth
…who does justice to those who are oppressed.
I, too, will pray the psalms, every spare moment.
What a harrowing election… I try to read plenty of enemy websites (I never once thought in such terms or used such terms until Obama), and I am struck at their confidence. The Right seems cautiously optimistic as well… One side or the other will be shattered in this election, and that in itself is stunning.
Honestly, I have no idea who will win… But there is one thing I have noticed about Obama and Axelrod in times of duress. They can both be relied on 100% to project what they themselves are doing and thinking onto their opponents. When Obama is cravenly exploiting foreign policy issues like the killing of UBL, he will also be the first out of the gate to accuse the Right of doing same. When he says “don’t call my bluff” you know he’s bluffing. When he is lying, his accusations fly that it’s the other side doing the lying. Ditto for obstructing oil exploration, being a bully, “not one of us”, accusations of racism, hatefulness, malfeasance, divisiveness, denigration, etc.
So it is with some comfort that I see the likes of serial jerks and asses like Obama, Axelrod, DWS, Stephanie Cutter, Jay Carney et al all asserting that Romney’s team is “desperate”… that he is “bluffing”, that Obama has a strong ground game, etc. I hope my observation proves true and that the enemy is projecting what it knows about itself onto the hated “other”.
In any event, whoever wins, I think a deep chasm has emerged in the American cultural and political landcape that may be impossible to bridge in the future. I’d love to be all positive about “Morning in America” again – but I don’t see it. The debt spiral, Islamic terrorism and our failure to crush that particular enemy, the rise of Leftist Fascism, all of it bodes ill for America. Perhaps too much damage has been done by the hard Left and the Right which always compromises with them to pull back from the chasm. I hope I’m wrong, and even the squishiest RINO would be a giant improvement over the disgusting current regime in power. At least we’d be ushered into the abyss slower than the breakneck speed under this vicious destructive man called Obama.
Con men and women are all Obama has in the way of surrogates and seconds.
Even if a DWS, a Stephanie Cutter, a David Axelrod is on tape saying “x”, they are all capable of looking straight into the camera and self-righteously insisting they didn’t say “x”.
“Con men understand that their job is not to use facts to convince skeptics but to use words to help the gullible to believe what they want to believe.”
~Thomas Sowell
Your concerns are valid, but there is going to be a power struggle in the Democrat Party between the far left and the Clinton loyalists, and this will divide the efforts of the Left. Also if Obama Administration incompetence is ever fully exposed, many Democrats are going to repudiate the Obama years and try to “get along” with the GOP for their own survival.
If Democrats would have nominated Hillary as President in 2008, they would be cruising to re-election and carrying many members of congress on their coat-tails. And I think they realize that now.
I put little stock in leftists sites. I read them sometimes too because it’s fascinating how quickly things go from left-wing site to the MSM. (E.G.tThe “macacca” fracus went from left wing blog COMMENTERS to MSM in just a few HOURS).
Leftists create their own reality. This is what enables them to scream that the election was “stolen” after a loss, even though there’s no evidence of it. The loss is contrary to their reality, therefore it must have been stolen!
“I think a deep chasm has emerged in the American cultural and political landscape that may be impossible to bridge in the future”.
Sad but true, ‘we’ has become ‘us and them’
I’ve been watching Romney for the last couple of days. He doesn’t look like he’s bluffing to me. In fact, he fairly oozes confidence.
This is an election day like no other in my lifetime. I’m honestly as nervous as that proverbial cat on the hot tin roof. Things I used to take for granted about America (and Americans) are no longer necessarily true. I do, indeed, fear for our future.
And with that being said, I predict Romney in a decisive victory. Please God. Please America. Thanking you in advance…
Romney will win, we’ll still have $16T in debt which will continue growing but at a slower pace, government will still be huge and won’t shrink, congress will go back to the pork trough, the GOP won’t figure out how to repeal O-Care or Dodd-Frank, a different set of special interests will control DC, gas prices will drop like a feather in a light updraft, partisan bickering will continue like wildfire, GOP will put more closet liberals like Breyer on the bench, stock market will boom but it’s all fake because of all the newly printed money over the past N years, the citizens will go back to sleep with their iphones, cableTV, etc. Basically we’ll continue the decline but at a slower pace until a real reboot happens.
Sadly, I have to say I agree wit this comment. If the economy picks up, that will enhance tax revenue. But the major structures of the federal government are unlikely to get smaller no matter who is elected; can the Congress really shrink the government? Will the Executive do it? I hardly think so. It seems to me that our Federalism is dying, and is unlikely to be recovered. Heck, we can’t even set immigration policy and enforce it.
I am not a Romney booster, but I gotta give him this. He says he will reduce staffing of the government by 5-10%. This I believe, because it is the typical corporate response. It fits Romney’s nature. Will he get rid of Dodd-Frank? Yes. OCare? No. He’ll modify it. Otherwise, he’ll make big government more efficient, but it will still be big government.
There was some prevarication among the responders, but the consensus is that Romney will win—the consensus is correct. He will win because the country has never reelected a bad president and we have never had a president as bad as Obama.
Tell that to the media and his supporters. They are convinced he is doing a wonderful job.
Obama will probably win the EV because of one overwhelmingly simple fact, people are stupid.
Of course once Obama causes the economy to collapse a few, very few, will be less stupid.
The press is telling us that Romney will win. Their mood is the same as immediately before the elections in 1980, 1984, 1988, 2000 and 2004 – all wins by Republicans. Their mood was quite different in 1976, 1992, 1996 and 2008 when the Democrats won and the nation lost. The press knows who’s going to win, they’ve conducted the polls and even released some of the results. In the prior Democratic wins it was clear that the press believed their own BS, but in the Republican wins their hearts really weren’t in it because they just couldn’t get their minds around their own spin. If you watch the news tomorrow night you’ll see the national debut of Barackus vinifera – the world’s sourest grapes.
Vote – the future belongs to those who show up.
Well, it has all been said by now. The only thing left to do is get out there and vote and make it happen for Romney.
We all know the huge problems we’ve been through over the last four years. As a member of the Tea Party movement, we’ve been yelled at, called “racists,” called “un-American,” called “Nazis” or “Brown Shirts” (take your pick, they’re interchangeable), called “crazy,” and called “astroturf,” and those were only some of the nice things the far-left and the main stream media have thrown at us. But we are still here and we ARE going to make a difference tomorrow. We’ve endured a lot just to have our voices heard but now the real power is in our hands. We get to vote tomorrow and that will be the day our voices WILL be herd.
So now all that’s left for us to do is go out there and vote. I’m read a book by Dr. Richard Jadick called “On Call in Hell” and it’s about his time as a Navy combat surgeon in Iraq. He tells a story that, during the attack on Fallujah on November 9, 2004, there was a Marine Corps Sergeant named Lonny Wells. While tying to cross a road that was under heavy enemy fire, Wells made sure that his men had crossed safely before he himself crossed. Tragically, Wells was seriously wounded just as he stepped into the middle of the road. His fellow Marines pulled him to safety and Dr. Jadick was there to try and save him, but the gunshot wound had done too much damage. Jadick said that, just before Wells died, he said to his men, “Keep going, Keep going, and get the job done.”
Wells was married and the father of five children. His friends said that he knew that he wanted to become a Marine from the age of five. We can at least take some comfort in the fact that he died doing what he wanted to do. He also never placed his own life above that of his men.
Wells gave his life for this country. All we have to do is vote to change our country. Keep Sergeant Wells’ dying words in mind today because we still need to keep going and get the job done. We will finish this job because I know that we are NOT the type of people to let a man like Lonny Wells down.
I wrote the above post the day of the 2010 midterm elections. We seemed to to OK two years ago, so I figured that I would try it again hoping for the same results. I think we WILL win and that Romney will be the next president of the United States because we really are a country filled with people like Lonny Wells and we would never let our fellow Americans down by handing this nation back to probably the most unqualified incumbant ever to hold the office. This is our hour, America. Make it count. I know you will.
Thanks Ship, that was a tough one.
I was a young single hot-shot when I was dodging bullets, cant imagine doing that now with kids at home.
No way. Those poor kids, God bless them.
It aint about us, its about them. We live for them. We fight for them. I only worry about my health now, because of what it would to to them, if I get fat lazy, and stupid, and end up dying on them.
We cant leave them with a huge debt and no memory of freedom and pride in what America (was) supposed to be….thats way to cruel…Unimaginable…hurts to just think of it…innocent kids wide eyed and lost, and daddy never coming home?
No way.
We’ve got to get this done…
With regard to your comment, “damned good–and damned right, too,” to quote Lord Wellington. You and Ship have it right and there are lots of us doing the same things for our children. I will NOT pass on to them the cancerous America we have under Downgrade. I’ll do whatever I can to prevent that.
No rational reason beyond a faith in my fellow Americans. 53-47 Romney. Senate follows, 53-47 (R), I’m counting the (I)’s as (D)’s.
One solid prediction. Atkins wins. Missouri (where I live) is St. Louis, a Democratic stronghold and the rest of the state. Atkins could climb on stage at the State Fair and quote the Satanic verses backwards while buggering a goat and it wouldn’t change any votes.
St. Louis will vote (D) and nothing short of a Nuclear weapon will change that. The rest of the state will vote (R) because St. Louis votes (D).
The ONLY people upset with Atkins remarks are Coastal Liberals, who won’t be voting in Missouri. At least not successfully, we hope.
Yeah, you must live in St. Louis, because apparently you’ve never heard of Kansas City.
Having been stung by the Supreme Court back stab on obamacare, I hesitate to be optimistic about the election. I will not be comfortable until all the votes are certified and I hear “you know who’s” concession speech. I just heard a report from kalifornia that Republican registration is at an all time low, just 29.9% of registered voters.
This doesn’t surprise me, however, remember when you die, you become a registered democrat. Evidence of that can be seen in how many dead folks vote in and around Chicago and elsewhere. Our cat and dog are also registered democrats, they must be and for the same reason dead people are registered and vote democrat.
My wife is a registered democrat but she votes straight line conservative. I am a registered independent but I also vote straight line conservative. Kalifornia’s dire predictions may not be as bad as they hope but having lived here all my life, I have no doubt kalifornia is all in for democrats. After all, look what a wonderful job they have done here for the last 30 to 40 years, we are number won in all things, aren’t we?
I’m basing my prognostications on a few assumptions.
First of all, you have the hard core democrat voters who would cast their ballot for the big “D” even if Obama turned blood red, sprouted horns from his head, a tail from his buttocks, a goatee, and started carrying around a pitchfork.
They are about a third of the population.
Second, you have the conservative base who have taken the view – to quote the quote that the good Glenn Reynolds has made so popular – that even though Romney was not their 1st, 2nd, or even 3rd choice they will still crawl over ground glass to vote against Obama.
They are also about a third of the population.
Please note that these percentages don’t line up with the party affiliation noted in the polls. I base this instead upon the fact I spent practically all my adult life as a registered democrat – yet never voted straight democrat ticket.
The country under Obama has become so bad I finally couldn’t stomach it anymore and changed my voter registration as a visible sign of my discontent – right after I voted “No Preference” in the Democrat primary here in NC.
I have a feeling there are a LOT of democrat voters who are still affiliated with a political party that they no longer have any connection to.
However, they are too busy otherwise with family or work obligations or just simply trying to survive in this sucking economy, or don’t think it’s important enough to go to the trouble of changing as they still get a vote on election day, to go down to the voter registration office and change their party affiliation.
A lot of these types of democrats are either going to stay home tomorrow – or vote for Romney.
Then you have the precious independents and undecideds.
I hold that anyone still authentically undecided at this stage of the election will likely NOT vote. If they can’t make up their minds after 4 years of one fiasco after another, then another 24 hours isn’t going to make any difference and they will be sitting at home watching a sitcom rerun or something while the adults cast ballots.
This leaves the so-called independents. I’d suggest that anyone who chooses to be so blatant in their independent streak as to deliberately choose to forgo the primaries and NOT affiliate themselves with either political party – and yet are at the same time absolutely committed to voting – are probably going to also display a certain independence in how they view politics.
They don’t like either party, see both as equally corrupt, and want to vote but don’t want to be identified with either one.
Based upon that measure, my belief is that these so-called independents have a strong…..well, ‘independent’….streak running through them.
If that is the case, what choice is a truly independent minded person who wishes to go their own way with minimum interference from other citizens and the government going to make when they step into the voting booth?
Are they going to choose a candidate who will happily heap on more of the same dismal policies and intrusive government they’ve had to endure for the past 4 years – or are they going to go for the other guy?
This isn’t even taking into account the ‘anybody-but-Obama-vote’.
Obama and the democrats did their own version of crossing the Rubicon with the deeply unpopular Obamacare bill. In doing so, they set themselves against an awful lot of folks who are not comfortable with the government crawling into their business that deeply.
Now it remains to be seen if they succeed in the end, or go down in failure.
My prediction is that Romney will win.
It doesn’t matter about percentages nor total EV’s – this isn’t horseshoes or hand grenades here. He only has to get just enough to win. If he does win, I think he will win big.
The House of Representatives will stay in Republican hands. Best scenario for the democrats is they don’t lose any seats – but I wouldn’t bet on that right now. A lot of voters who are going to cast ballots for Romney will likely also punish the democrat party in their votes for the House of Representatives.
The Senate is a big question mark. I’d hope it would tilt a few more votes in favor of the republicans, but they have managed to shoot themselves in the foot so thoroughly that they may have to be dragged kicking and screaming over the finish line.
If they do win the Senate, I expect the Republicans to demand a recount…lol.
Still, the Senate historically doesn’t flip as quickly as the House does, and that is by design and provides stability in government. Change at that level will have to be incremental over a series of elections. The danger is that after Romney is elected that people will think their work is done and generally ignore the mid-terms in 2014.
Still, with people as unhappy as I think they are with Obama, I suspect there are a lot of democrat senators sweating tomorrows elections if they are in anything other than a deep blue state.
We all live in a bubble of our own making. It is impossible for me to gauge the nation from where I live, as Obama will lose by 30 points or more as he did in 2008. Whatever the result, one side is going to be sorely disappointed.
I never recall an election where both sides seemed so confident in the outcome. And I believe the outlook sincere on both sides. Perhaps 2000 comes as close as my limited ability to predict an outcome – my gut says Romney; my mind and a large measure of cheating says Obama.
I find it hard to believe that Rasmussen even with problems in polling, isn’t at least remotely close in prediction. At the very least, Rasmussen always seems to be in the neighborhood with respect to accuracy. I predict a very late night tomorrow evening and probably Wednesday morning too.
All I know is this:
Unless I am wrong and the outcome an overwhelming defeat for Obama, I am already saddened even if Mitt Romney should win; a Mitt Romney that is clearly more qualified and more moral than this current disgrace as sitting President.
What does it say of a nation that we could be so amoral to have half or almost half of our citizenry so beholden to freebies and be blind to the corrupted nation of a feckless man like Obama? That half or nearly half of voting adults would turn a blind eye or worse be so stupid to ignore what is clearly four years of unmitigated failure, broken campaign promises and egregious lies? There is no excuse in 2012 to not see Obama for what he is. Many of us predicted accurately in 2008 that Obama was rotten at his core and a dangerous megalomaniac. For me, Obama has done nothing to change that opinion and Obama has been even worse than I predicted with my expectation already low. Glenn Reynolds is right – this is Jimmy Carter redux in a best case scenario.
It makes me sick to recognize the sacrifices made for me to eat from vineyards I did not plant and freedom which I did not fight for but were granted by birthright, and throw that away for litany of false promises. It is an embarrassment to not be able to stop the path of leaving my children a debt they cannot pay.
How can any intelligent person vote for a man that had his chance and is so clearly a failure in every measure and claim they are moral? Why should I be expected to compromise when I am so sure that the Democratic Party is taking our country into ruin?
I’m aghast that Mitt Romney isn’t ahead 2-1. That this is election is even close tells me all I need to know of the sorry state of our nation.
I see very bad times ahead, with little or no chance of soft landing even if Mitt Romney wins a close one. If there is no clear mandate given and the path just slowed and not changed, we will be irreparably damaged. I am as confident in that prediction as I was that Obama would be a disaster as President.
So very well said. At base it is so obvious that secularism has brutally abused this land. Turning it into an amoral characterization of our Founder’s plan.
I recall a similar mindset in 1979 so I would not be so pessimistic.
Romney’s problem is that he was never the first choice of most people, but he’s all we got and ya march to war with the general and the army you have – not the general and the army you WISH you had.
At his heart, I think he’s a decent man. Generally, decent men try to make decent decisions. He is also demonstrably competent.
That alone could be enough to get this country turned around – but it ain’t gonna be easy.
Looking back, it almost humorous that neither was Ronald Reagan who was beaten in ’76 for the Republican candidacy, our “first choice” as President. Romney was not my first choice either, but my perception of Romney has changed much over the last six months. Whatever the result, I think Romney has run a classy, steady and fine campaign. I give Romney and Ryan a tip of the cap. Unlike 2008, I think Romney was the potential and demeanor to be an outstanding President given the chance.
However, and this the crux of my pessimism Scott – now being over 50, and 1980 my first election to vote, the make up of this country is not what it was 32 years ago. We have slid far from the days of Tip O’Neil and Sam Nunn as political opponent.
The Democrat Party has become the GimmeDat party in largest regard. We are dangerously close to becoming a nation governed by who offers the most entitlement, not a a nation of self reliance. We have a debt that we cannot possibly repay. Our bluest states will go broke long before our federal government does. Almost 50% of children born out of wedlock, the family structure in disarray, many public schools more war zone than education, and an apathetic nation whose battle cry is the mindless “throw them all out…except my guy.”
I appreciate those sunny optimists who see the glass half full and am married to one. But I am cut from the cloth who sees half a glass and no more.
Optimism based upon fantasies and hope is useless and does nothing good for morale except allow it to be torn down farther as adherents to said hopeless optimism fall that much farther when reality strikes.
Optimism based upon past history and current capabilities, on the other hand, is fully warranted.
The problems we face are not insurmountable. We likewise dug ourselves out of a deep hole after Carter. If we can put a man on the moon, and recover after Carter, then we should be able to fix this current mess.
Not going to be easy, but it IS doable.
My hope and prayer is that Romney wins and wins big tomorrow. If not, then it’s back to stockpiling spam and ammo as the end will indeed be in sight at that point.
As New Yorkers are finding out now, ones mind tends to become rather focused when basic survival is at stake, and I honestly don’t think that is too great of a stretch to consider becoming the case for the entire country if we don’t change course.
Either way, good or bad, things are coming to a head…best to be prepared for either eventuality. But the first thing that must be prepared is ones mindset.
Well, we hardline Conservatives warned about Romney. He’s not ahead 2:1, because he doesn’t stand for much except business. He has the reputation of a typical lying politician. Flip-flop Mitt. This is what is hurting him now. We tried to tell you, when we were searching for Anyone But Romney during the primaries, but the establishment backed Romney early. He got their money, and so, he won. He’ll win, now, but his coattails are not as long as they should be. This will be problematic once he is President.
I am SICK of this argument. SICK OF IT. There is no perfect candidate. The only perfect candidate is the one that wins the dictatorship after a coup d’tat (IF he’s your dictator). In a Republic, the leader must work with the opposition (because there is ALWAYS opposition.) This anti-Romney bashing on our side of the aisle accomplishes nothing except to lower everyone’s optimism when we need all the optimism we can get.
I also think this sort of thinking is an excuse for laziness and lack of courage. It’s so easy to sit back and say, told you so, while things go to he11. It’s less heartbreaking to lose if you expected to lose. It’s harder to get out there and WORK toward the governance we desire. It’s harder to become thoroughly informed, to present logical arguments to the opposition than partisan rhetoric, it’s harder to be informed with facts. It’s harder to write your reps, go to the townhalls, march, protest, and make your voice heard than it is to sit back and complain how it wasn’t YOUR candidate, so that’s why it’s not working. It’s harder to GOTV and easy to moan and grumble. You want a representative Republic? WORK FOR IT. With a full heart and an optimistic spirit. Otherwise, you don’t deserve to have it.
Barak Hussein Obama appears to be the point man of a great conspiracy to assure that no black man will be elected president of the US for generations to come.
If this nation is so dehumanized, rendered ignorant and immoral as to reelect this fool I will no longer consider myself a citizen of that state. My only hope will be that somehow a new state may be founded upon the once great and now destroyed Constitution of the United States and the principals set forth in the Declaration of Independence. I will spend what is left of my life working toward that end.
On the other hand, from the spiritual perspective, it appears that the great Author of history was correct. Mankind can only destroy himself when left to his own devices without complete reliance upon The God of the Bible. Given every benefit of our fantastic abilities, modern science, technology, magnificent organizational capabilities … we have used them mostly to bring about our end.
Granted, we’re up against deep and unprecedented corruption.
But don’t you believe that the people are not furious and fed up?
America is ready to make a statement.
Again, Romney/Ryan with over 300 electoral votes.
We hold on to the House and 52-48 in the Sanate.
Now get out there, and with some like-minded friends… march to the polls.
I must once again second Zombie’s dismissal of all polls, given the 9% response rate. No self-selected sample can be trusted; some sort of bias must be assumed. A self-selected sample certainly wouldn’t be accepted for any sort of scientific research. FYI – I’m a biological scientist who took seven graduate-level stats courses.
It will be a turning point election very similar to 1980 Reagan win. Republicans will pick up 5 House seats, regain the Senate with a 3 vote majority, and thank President Romney for his coattails. Presidential results show Romney winning 370 electoral votes and 53% of the popular vote. The American people want leadership from their President and they pray President Romney will answer the call.
YES!
Coat tails are just as important as Romney win.
We are at Lexington Green right now, standing up to and defying The Narrative…
Tomorrow is the Concord Bridge where we send them packing in retreat.
But we need more soldiers, and we need to build a credible army to fight the NEXT battle that will surely come.
Republican, Tea Stained Coattails wherever we can get them. County State and local offices…School Boards and Senate Seats. We need to adjust the complexion of Government every chance we get, so in 4 (or maybe 8?) years from now, there is a “New Normal” in the Political Dialog as power gets taken from the MSM, the real, current government/regime.
I’ve found this election to be amazing.
Two candidates with strongly differing beliefs and opinions seem to be splitting the vote almost evenly. The number of undecided voters has been lower than almost any election I’ve ever seen.
My prediction is that Obama will win the Electoral College while Romney wins the popular vote.
The Republicans will take small losses in the house but nowhere near enough to lose control. The Senate is seriously up for grabs even though the Republicans should have taken control easily.
I suspect that most people reading this will agree to disagree with my predictions. If I am wrong I’ll admit it the day after the election.
I suspect that the optimists who are calling for a Romney landslide won’t admit they were wrong after the election but will instead talk about a conspiracy.
I’ve been predicting a Romney victory (“big, but not 1980 big”) since June 1st (go look over at Ace of Spades for that date; I’m “Fritzworth”), and I stand by that. If I’m wrong, I’m wrong, and I won’t talk conspiracy (which would be silly).
Actually, at this point, I think the victory may well be “1980 big”. The 2010 Congressional elections caught most pollsters (including Nate Silver) by surprise — and in that case, people were just voting for their local representative for the next two years, and maybe for one senator. This election is for the Big Enchilada: who controls the White House and the US Executive Branch for the next four (and possibly eight) years, and who will likely nominate the next two (maybe three, maybe four) Supreme Court justices. All the energy and passion (and, frankly, anger and fury) is on the part of conservatives and independents, not liberals.
Beyond that, Reince Priebus is perhaps the most effective Chairman the RNC has had in decades; he’s done a better job financially than the DNC, and I think he’ll even beat them at the get-out-the-vote game.
Whatever the outcome, though, we get the government we deserve. ..bruce..
That would be a good article. “Contrition.” Confess here if you were really wrong about the election.
Today is the last day we have to make a final effort, conquer one more vote, tell one more time the tale of the political horrors that we have witnessed in these four years.
Tomorrow is the day of the fight.
No predictions, just stay focused on the target.
(S.Z. as Yoda)
Angst.
The Propaganda and Lies Ministry has taken what should be a landslide and absolute repudiation of One World Socialism (small c communism)…and turned it into a horse race.
Obama has cut off the credit card security check…again…and allowed bundled money, foreign money, illegal money to pour into his campaign. This has been effectively covered up.
The Lawless Presidency with all the earmarks of a budding dictatorship and tyranny of iron-fisted rule has been successfully tamped down and hidden from view by the media co-conspirators.
This WOULD HAVE BEEN a monumental landslide, but for the above.
Now…we are down to the “swing states”. Depending upon the delta between voters who know or “sense” the above…and those who have unwittingly swallowed the spiked Kool Aid of media propaganda, lies and coverups. I say “unwittingly”, because those who swallow the spiked Kool Aid willingly, wouldn’t do the right thing anyway. The “changeover” voter ONLY comes from the ranks of those who have gotten their “opinions” from the polluted and toxic information “main” stream media.
Therefore, we are down to “swing” states. (The “safe” states for each party are pretty well identified, I think…any “surprises” will very likely fall in line for Romney)
This, then…takes the race down to the ground game, in PA, Ohio, Iowa, WI, MI, …the heartland of the Midwest. My stomping grounds for fifty years.
Midwest values. Fair is fair. Right is right. Wrong is wrong.
And…HERE…is where the poisoned information stream and all the dirty tricks and fraud do their worst damage. The New Blank Panters dress up after Halloween and threaten to kill cracker babies. The Democratic Chicago Machine get the dead out to vote early and often. ACORN/SEIU types commit any and every act of fraud they can get away with. Spread any lie. Whisper any slander.
Our reluctance to tell the truth and shout it out…especially in the heartland, will make this a squeaker…dependent upon the whims of fate. A race that now could turn on the ability to commit fraud from the left or to fight it off from our side.
The Romney campaign and OUR media outlets…the resistance…chose to believe that attacking Obama was the wrong strategy. They went with “we’re the nice guys” approach. It may work. People don’t like acrimony.
But, we sacrificed telling the truth about The Lawless Presidency and his pocket propaganda press. The OPM (Obama Propagandist Media) will then have decided how close this race would become. I’m infuriated by that. The closeness of this race is based upon a pack of lies.
I hope and pray that we did not allow what could follow….because we feared telling the truth was the wrong “tactic”. It’s now within the margin of fraud…and that’s home turf for the other side. Fight like your life depended upon it. We need every ounce of effort until you can’t move another inch…and then you have to get up and give even more.
We are in the fight of our lives.
After tomorrow we will know to what extent are our problems with fraud & how many Kool-Aid drinkers make it to the polls. As usual it will be a contest of turnout. Early voting patterns point to a Romney victory. Chin up, CFB.
“Midwest values. Fair is fair. Right is right. Wrong is wrong”
And like anywhere else, they can easily morph into an Al Frankin f*uck story of lies and criminality, or fearless abdications of office before sending the Commie Mobs to wrest with violence that which you could not compel with reason.
The Midwest is no different from anywhere else…My Red Bucks County dominated by voter fraud Philadelphia, my conservative neighbors hostage to a commie teachers union.
But we always hope good will be rewarded….and we fear, really FEAR what will happen to the nation, if we descent to their level of hatred and vitriol at the “official” level of Party Platform. They have a media veil to soften their blows, to deny the hatred, the treachery, the crimes they commit.
But we do not, and our fear of what will become of us after such descent tempers our blows against them.
Even after a bloody Civil War, with the assassination of “our” president, we resisted the KIND of political revenge that would have occurred anywhere else….Mass executions, purges, graves and Gulags…because we cannot imagine how you “come back” from something that heinous, or what would ever justify it in the first place….That is our character.
So we play the ‘good guy” in every election, and fight with gloved fists by established rules in the hope that victory will be DESERVED and not just POSSIBLE.
This election more than any other will test that strategy, and I pray we win. To lose now, means we must abandon the High Ground, and fight as THEY do…which is so sick, devious and dishonorable, I’m not sure we would still be “us” when its all over.
Angst indeed…..Vote people, VOTE
I think Romney will pull it off & GOP will keep the House. The Senate may be another matter. I sure would like nothing more (Romney win notwithstanding) than to see nasty Harry Reid knocked off his Majority Leader pedestal. What on earth is wrong with NV voters?
I have often wondered this, too, and I live right above them. Nevada has the highest unemployment in the nation, yet they seem stuck on Obama. WTH? On the other hand, if Romney wins big and wins early back East, it might wave to a NV pickup, if Dems out here stay home.
vdh thinks our voters are stupid, kimball thinks they’re smart
knowing all we do know about Obama and his administration
the fact we still don’t know for sure who will win is the story
I’ve always believed what Zombie expressed so succinctly in the post. Romney will win Roger – have faith. Otherwise I’ll join your resistance!!
Sorry, I have an increasingly strong feeling that Obama wins. For one thing, Zombie is the only dead person who’s going to vote for Romney; and I believe that in OH and PA, that is going to be decisive. Further, for all the “Mittmentum”, we haven’t been able to close the sale.
And the Senate, of course, stays D.
I hope to God I am wrong.
President Romney 321 EV. Election will be over by 9pm Nov 6.
I don’t trust the polls, but I do trust campaign hotspots. Obama is on his heels in the Rust Belt due to his assault on religious liberty. Historical swing states like VA, FL, are red. CO, NC and IN are also red again this year. This leaves OH which is ripe for fraud and is the only way Obama wins it. PA is the great unknown, but I believe Wisconsin will lead the nation in turning back the loony left tide, and give Romney the EV needed to shut down the last of the doubters of a Romney presidency.
Popular vote won’t be close. The Senate will go red because of both Romney and the governors races (30 of 50 governorships will be red in 2013 and all politics is local). House will also gain seats. The House will pass Pelosi’s walking papers, but Pelosi will wait until they are passed to read them.
It will have to be Romney or we will have completely traveled the road to serfdom. Anyone who votes for the Communist will regret it if he wins. This is for all the marbles. We were not born into the service of a government, but a frightening percentage of us are hell bent on going there like sheep to the slaughter. I want to have the freedom to live my life for myself and my family. Go and vote like it is the last chance you have for that. Because it is our last chance. ABO2012
I predict (hope, pray?) that the American people will not let the great American experiment go down the drain that easily.
This sums it up for me. America is going down the drain, but this quickly? I doubt it.
David Goldman, please don’t blame Kansas for losing the Senate. We have two Republican senators now, and neither of them are running for office this year.
I suspect you have confused us with Missouri?
Akin might pull it off, people in Missouri HATE Claire with a passion. She has been corrupt and she is just a nasty woman.
I can only guess the winner based upon the yard signs I am seeing. On sheer numbers of yard signs, I’m pretty sure that Caldwell Banker has it in the bag, that ReMax fellow is looking at a long night Tuesday.
FSBO is running a stealth resurgent campaign and could spoil the results.
Here are some election related predictions that are highly likely to happen.
Chris Christie will NEVER be president. His national career is comatose. And if he wins reelection in New Jersey, it won’t be republicans who elect him.
Pravda will continue to lose market share. The only hope for that deeply corrupt group of political operatives is government asssistance, which would complete the demise of the country.
The election will be challenged. Democrats will cheat on a massive scale.
There is going to be overwhelming anger after the election, no matter who wins.
Benghazi is going to become the greatest scandal in American history. If the Fraud wins, he will be impeached by the House, but of course, there is no chance to actually oust him from office, which he so richly deserves.
If the Fraud wins, the multi-year emigration of America’s most productive citizens will begin. Hungary has already begun making overtures, and several other countries will as well. It may also happen that a handful of the absolute top business leaders in the country will effectively take over a country and turn it into the next bastion of freedom. Technology and transportation has simply evolved to the point where the most driven and competant people in the world are not going to sit idly by while everything they have devoted their lives to building is stolen from them. They will act.
Romney will be UNABLE to overcome the margin of fraud in Oiho, Pennsylvania (Philly), and Colorado. The Florida vote will be contested by Dems. Supreme Court will want to be “fair” and will give this Florida Charlie Foxtrot to the Dems.
The only bright side of Teh 0ne’s second term? He and the Democrat Senate will take the blame for the rampant inflation that will appear in 12 – 18 months.
Who am I kidding? The administration and the media (redundancy alert!) will lay the blame at the feet of the “obstructive” and “divisive” Republican House.
Stretch I can’t speak for Ohio or Penn, but here in Colorado Romney seems to be polling way past the margin of fraud. Early voting has washed out the Dem advantage here and Republicans always turn out strong on election day.
The cautious caveats emitted by Helen Reynolds, Claudia Rosett and other sound minds confirm the fact that a prediction is necessarily a statement of faith. Being the professionals they are, they went to great rational lengths to make sure to avoid any statement of faith.
As for me, optimism was my very first preexisting condition, and so here is my statement of faith: Romney wins big. Voting in California, I will vote for Romney, not because I expect my vote to be decisive this time around, but because I think my brothers and sisters in faith will make a point to do the same, thereby producing a meaningful shift in the results.
I attended three tea parties, two by choice in San Diego, and one by accident, near Napa in all places (I did not know about it, and I just happened to be there on that day). The tea parties have been dismissed, to understate the case, by the press but they have been an illuminating epiphany to those like me who discovered how many brothers and sisters in faith they really had, talking about faith in the American idea and the wisdom of the US constitution. If that faith has been lost by enough of us, America inescapably becomes another unexceptional nation, and our only escape from mediocrity will be personal aesthetic pursuits similar to those of the wonderful musicians of Cuba, who reject capitulation of the spirit by crafting their rare jewels of art.
What Zombie feels.
Me, got a good sense of an ambushs up trail.
Do not have that hair standing up on the back of my neck feeling now.
Romney wins,
Obama pouts, Pelosi gets ugly faster, Reid thinks he broke his mirror but that is the real thing he sees each day.
My “gut” feeling is that Obamination is re-elected, barely – and loses popular vote. Please note: I’m an eternal pessimist! But I’m and deeply afraid that too many Americans have become “American Idol” voters. They vote for who’s the coolest, hippest man or woman, based on TV appearances, like those of O on The View, and the little information they get from watching the legacy media. So, in conclusion, The Legacy Media throws the election in favor of The Obamanation . . . and America doesn’t recover from the entitlement syndrome and leftist experimentation for at least 50-60 years. There is zero chance O is impeached because of Legacy Media. Here’s hoping to God that I am completely and utterly wrong and Romney wins in a landslide!!!
I don’t know what will happen for sure. I am guessing that if we see a Romney landslide, we will also have a good chance of seeing the Senate flip. If Romney wins the popular and Obama takes the EC, we still have a good chance of seeing the Senate flip for the GOP thanks to Romney’s strong showing at the polls. If Obama wins both popular and the EC, we will not take the senate although we might gain a couple seats, but the GOP will hold the House.
I am hoping and praying for a Romney win, and my gut keeps telling me he will do very well.
Although I think Romney will win I don’t think the American People will have rejected the state’s massive intrusion in their lives. I say this on the basis of the reaction to Carter and then the slow but inexorable return of full bore statism under presidents of both parties after Reagan. What will they be voting? Their pocket books, as they did when they rejected Carter. But it won’t go deeper than that and to believe it will invites heartbreak.
– House and Senate taken by the GOP. Am now only worried about what the GOP does with it soon as the invitations to Georgetown cocktail parties start flying out on Nov. 7th.
God help America if O is re-elected. God bless America if R is elected.
I am completely convinced that the current Democratic party’s leanings are in the wrong direction and will lead and are leading to a World that is less civil, less livable, and more dangerous. No one will ever convince me otherwise. If Obama is elected, I fear we will head down the same path he started and it will diverge so far from where we should be that there may be no getting back to the right path. I am sure most reading this post believe the same. IF Obama should win the election, the only hope may be to focus on education and to try and gain greater control of the media narratives. The masses of people just do not understand or see the great principals on which this country was founded and the divergence from them. It is no longer taught with fervor or discussed in the media. But even if Obama loses, the fact that he has gained even 20% of the vote tells me that focused, diligent effort needs to be made to change the attitudes of a vast number of Americans (and World citizens, for that matter).
Macdaddy you said it!
The key story of history is the struggle of the individual against the state, and the study of American principles (real principles of freedom and constitutional wisdom) and the need for GLOBAL political and economic reform should be a key priority everywhere. The infectious education system needs to teach proper values, i.e. throw out this relativistic, left-wing doctrine of the devil, and get some sound moral content in there based on the Founding Fathers.
If you have not seen the Movie 2016, here is a free one.
http://vimeo.com/m/51569342
It’s going to be a landslide, I’ve been saying all along that it will be nearly identical to the 1980 Reagan vs. Carter landslide, and I’m sticking to it. This is a wave election in the same way that 2008 followed 2006, so too will 2012 follow 2010. People remember the Carter malaise and the Reagan growth, and they see the Obama economy being sucked dry by trillion dollar borrowing. People aren’t Stupid, especially those people imbued with the superior American Culture, mankind’s bleeding edge culture.
The Pollsters (even Gallup and Rasmussen) aren’t using the +3R electorate that their own polling has identified (a 15 point swing from 2008) as what the electorate is going to look like tomorrow. Also many that say they are going to vote for Obama really aren’t, this is known as the Bradley effect and is going to be much more powerful than many are thinking. Finally, Americans are much more Frightened than any in the media are willing to recognize (gun sales), and this is going to become clear tomorrow.
I think that we can be very confident that more Americans will vote for Romney. The real question that other comments bring up is whether any electoral fraud will take place, especially in the key swing states. Who is monitoring this election? Who is making sure that all aspects thereof are legitimate?
Who is monitoring? Eric Holder’s justice department. So the question is not will there be fraud, but how much. And D fraud will neither be detered nor prosecuted. It will be huge. The question is whether it will be enough.
We already know Obama has lost a large percentage of independents. He will lose at least a certain percentage of Catholics and Jews. He’s lost a (large?)percentage of the blue collar white male, and Romney has pulled pretty even with the women vote. Even 1-2% of the black vote will likely be lost with his approval of gay marriage and black pastors are encouraging a vote for the Bible. He’ll lost some Hispanics because most of them are Catholic. Evangelicals will vote this time. The youth are not revved up anymore. Add up the 2% here and 5% there, no way Obama can win. I can’t imagine the amount of fraud that would need to occur to make it otherwise.
Just came across this at American Thinker.
See the chart breakdown of the 13% defectors from Obama from 2008.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/11/the_election_will_not_be_close.html
Romney wins with 59%, Republicans take the Senate. People take exception to Democrats booing God at their convention.
Unfortunately it appears that that no matter who wins this election, the socialist or the capitalist, America is caught in a whirlpool heading down the drain just behind the dysfunctional State of California. Albert
Pray you optimists are right.
My fellow citizens, the winner of tomorrow’s elections (at all levels) will be Mr. FRAUD (and of course, for the benefit of the current fraud in the WH).
When I see “D+4,5,6,7,8,9,etc poll samples” I read “expected 4%, 5%, …etc fraudulent votes” for the democRATS. When inner city precincts in places like Cleveland, OH reported in 2008 up to 95% turnout of all registered voters, when in America on the average that was about 54%, there is one and only one way to read this: Mr. FRAUD showed up big time there. And by the way, always these inner city precinct counts come up always last and late at night, and in the “right” numbers for the democrats to pull it off. In the 2008 case in Ohio, the 250K margin of victory for BHO in Ohio was exactly the margin of his victory in Cuyahoga County, of the (inner) City of Cleveland, OH.
My only question is simply this: how are conservatives going to react to this.
Dr. helen Smith wrote: “I take comfort in the knowledge that there are a great many people in this country who will continue to fight to keep the American dream alive and will not let one man and his enablers destroy the vision that has brought prosperity to so many”.
After all, we are still a democracy, and we have a Constitution, although torn and ragged by the Left and a president who shows open contempt for it. The question will be how do we move those existing on welfare into the world of productivity, self-reliance and dignity to restore America?
I am giddy optimistic about a Romney win, perhaps landslide, based on the three attempts at bat in Wisconsin on recalls, and standing in line at Chik-Fillet for 90 minutes with hundreds of like minded, optimistic citizens. Also the 2010 Tea Party movement was true grass roots election victory and has not diminished, while Occupy# was a fraud and a fizzle. I’m feeling pretty darn good about the whole deal, so I will have a long fall if I’m wrong, and let’s face it, if we are wrong and Obama wins by hook or crook then America is lost anyway.
As an excessively eager non American election watcher I reckon the result will depend on the degree of shrewdness of mind of the body electorate
Are you fooled by ways of socialism or are you sophisticated enough to observe what this has done ,and is doing, to Europe ?
Danger signs are everywhere
Your national debt is a flashing red light
Your foreign policy is not carefully thought out
America you have to change course !Not only for your sake
May greater insight and sanity prevail !
God bless America !
What I need to know is, What will take place when Obama loses, but fraudulently claims victory and declares martial law to enforce his claim? How will our military divide on this? Are we in for another War Between The States? Will Texas exercise its prerogative of secession? Or its division into five states- with two senators each, thus giving the Reps total control of the senate?
Or, is that another “so what”, considering that, even when the reps ran the whole show they totally failed to implement their socalled Contract With America.
Here’s an idea! Why don’e elect David Rockefeller and some Rothschild from amongst the globalist elite at the CFR, and cede them dictatorial power? We can be their feudal serfs; chattel, not real people, and they will live happily ever after! As chance collocations of nuclear particles we really don’t matter anyway. Do we?
I work in the insurance industry. The estimated property damage from Hurricane Sandy will likely approach $100 Billion. To put President Obama’s prolifigate spending in perspective try to imagine one Sandy sized storm hitting somewhere in the United States every 25 days or so from the start of his term to its conclusion this coming January. That is what $6 Trillion looks like as measured in destruction. Question: Where exactly did all the money go? What do we have to show for it?
It’s a great question, John. Perhaps the question of this entire election and I have seen few people ask it. And the example you provide takes one’s breath away if you consider the magnitude and scope of the ramifications.
If I could ask an Obama sycophant one question, it would be: If I could give you and each of your family members approximately $20,000 a piece over four years, would you have more to show for it than what you have now during Obama’s term? How many of them could honestly answer “NO”?
Because that is exactly what we could have done with the debt we have incurred under Obama.
I’m interested in what people think of the swing to Obama in the the Gallup likely released today (49/48 Romney down from 51/46)
I haven’t read the breakdown of this poll, but in another poll there was an upsurge in Obama votes in the states affected by the storm. However, those states are going for Obama anyway. So I’m not sure if that swing really means anything or not.
Gallup is playing politics with that one.
They say their system is based on running weekly averages, so swings are not the kind of thing their system is able to detect.
* Rasmussen can detect better any sudden changes, while Gallup is better detecting trends.
* Rasmussen can’t say if the sudden change will hold and form a trend. Gallup can… after at least 1 week.
* Rasmussen also indicated a lift for Ovomit, followed by an attenuation again, so, it does not seem the thing that makes a trend.
The final Gallup has Romney 49/Obama 48. Final Rasmussen Romney 49/Obama 48. Final Battleground has them tied at 47.
For what it’s worth.
To be sure a Romney win would be great, and M/Mrs Obama can ‘retire’ to
their new $35 million estate in Hawaii, funding for which is currently
being organized by the Pritzker family of Chicago…how special is that? However, if Obama wins, then we the people, must demand that Congress,
if they can dispense with their inherent cowardice, begin impeachment
proceedings for high treason immediately, as regards the 9/11/12 attack
on our consulate in Benghazi.
Vote Romney/Ryan….and
Good luck, America.
The Republicans (hopefully Conservatives) have a REAL chance to increase their House seats and take over the Senate by several seats.
Worthwhile reading for the day before the presidential election 2012:
Romney for President
The Obama record is unimpressive.
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/332484/mitt-romney-president-editors
im sincerely puzzled how anyone can predict an obama win, given 1) the resounding republican victories of the 2010 elections; 2) the massive turnouts at romney rallies; 3) the plethora of articles citing the lack of enthusiasm for obama; 4) the pollsters unrealistic oversampling of democrats 5) romneys hugelead among independents 6) romneys huge lead among whites, who comprise the majority of voters.
not to mention the ‘skins lost yesterday.
There is not a single collection of polls that definitely gives Romney the needed EVs, which is OK. Perhaps four more years of treason and incompetence is what is needed to wake the electorate. Let’s see the MSM keep a depression quiet.
“As of this writing, on Sunday evening, Mr. Obama led by an average of 1.3 percentage points across 12 national polls that had been published over the course of the prior 24 hours.”
http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/11/04/state-and-national-polls-come-into-better-alignment/
I have been mocking the overly optimistic in this election.
There are Democratic supporters who have said (although they stopped after the first debate) that the Democrats would retake the House. I point out to them that they’re living in a bubble and only hearing from their liberal friends.
On the GOP side I have heard people say that Romney will win a landslide. I have heard some even say that Romney will win New York. Of course since none of the people who think this believe any polls, their conclusions are based on being in a bubble just as removed from reality as the Democratic bubble.
But yesterday someone asked me what would happen if both candidates ended up with exactly the same number of electoral votes. Since this is more likely than Romney winning New York or the Democrats regaining Congress, I thought I’d mention it.
If this was a boxing title fight, Obama would win any draw. A champion must be defeated to lose the title.
This is not boxing. If there was a tie, the winner would be picked by Congress. As I said before, there is no way the Democrats win Congress this time.
Romney wins if it’s a tie.
Not Congress. Just the House.
Several of the columnists have predicted Romney will win the presidency, but the Democrats will retain the Senate.
What does it really matter then? Obamacare is the ultimate Trojan Horse for leftism. With it they can disgorge left wing statism onto the people of this country for generations. A Romney victory will be hollow indeed if it does not come with Republican control of the Senate.
Sadly, it appears that the Senate is indeed safe for the Democrats. Obamacare is going nowhere. And Obamacare is ball game.
“I have read that it took over 10 years after the crash in 1929 for the job numbers to get back to the pre-crash figures. The Great Recession of 2008 was the worst economic collapse since the Depression. Stands to reason that things won’t get back to normal as quickly as some might want.”
No it doesn’t. The 1920-21 depression was almost as bad as 1929-1930 was initially, but the government didn’t think it was smarter than everyone else, and the economy recovered. Then Coolidge cut taxes, and the Roaring 20s ensued.
Hoover made the Great Depression worse by going with tax increases and public spending. FDR doubled, tripled and quadrupled down while adding heavy elements of command and control. That’s why the recovery from the Great Depression took so long. It might never have arrived if World War II hadn’t occurred.
The reason the recovery from this downturn is so pathetically weak has nothing to do with the severity of the downturn which preceded it, and everything to do with the Obama administration’s poor stewardship and hostility towards capitalism and capitalists in general (“you didn’t build that”).
A terrific post. Everyone thinks that the election is too close to call but also thinks that Romney will win. I hope so too, but what happens if Obama wins? Do we continue the positions of the past 3.5 years which did nothing to solve the country’s problems or do we actually toss Grover off the boat and do something to solve the problems we face?
Go away troll!! We never give up! It is time for the socialists to comprimise with us! On the right side of the spectrum.
From the Daily Mail by way of Drudge:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2228359/Romney-campaign-internal-polling-puts-Republican-nominee-point-ahead-Ohio.html?ito=feeds-
This would be why Team Romney seems pretty upbeat and continuing to campaign into tomorrow.
All that is left is for me to pray and vote. In an underpopulated state like mine that’s already red, it’s all I can do. However I am happy to report that my donation to Rehberg and my little vote will probably help put another Republican in the Senate.
God bless you all, and see you on the other side.
Sorry, but my gut says Obama by a safe margin. Maybe it’s where I live – in a not-so-affluent part of Northern Virginia – or where I work – Washington DC. I just see a lot of passive, dependent Americans who really want what the Democrats are handing out. And I see a lot of overeducated, privileged, elite, liberal Americans who believe “intelligent” people always vote Democrat. It seems like there are more of them than there are of us – more every day. I’d like to see grownups running the government, not naive visionaries. I’m just not sure there are enough grownups left to vote for them.
There is a place in Northern Va. that is not affluent? Wish you had joined us at the post first-debate rally in Leesburg. We crossed the border from po’ lil’ W Va to attend. It was packed and awesome and drew many folks from your area.
Take heart, friend.
People love to generalize about Northern Virginia, and I guess you could say that compared to other areas it’s *generally* affluent. But the demographics have changed a lot in the thirty years I’ve lived here. Let’s just say I haven’t seen a massive influx of Republicans since 1981. Based on what I saw at polls this morning, I don’t think Obama has much to worry about in my neighborhood.
NINE ECONOMIC FACTS THAT MAY DETERMINE TUESDAY’S ELECTION. Democrats and Republicans alike agree that jobs and the economy are the dominant issues that will drive Tuesday’s presidential outcome. Here, then, is a look at nine economic facts facing Americans as they head to the polls: 1. Every fifth man in America is out of a job. Black male … READ MORE: http://bwcentral.org/2012/11/nine-economic-facts-that-may-determine-tuesdays-election/
I agree with Roger K.-a bloodbath for the dems. We get the senate, and the house, and a MANDATE!!
The Mutt media and talking heads operate as if 2010 never happened. Everyone who voted then is going to vote tomorrow. Too many “intangibles” are leaning Romneys way. I think we are all going to be surprised-in a good way.
Why would Rasmussen and gallup weight their polls they way they do? The signs that it is going to be an R+0-+3 are all over the place. The whorem*onger coke head Morris is right!
The Morris prognostication is the thing that scares me the most. He’s the Bob Shrum of right wing election pundits.
I pray that Obama loses the election. Under Romney America may be salvageable. However, in February whoever is President will have to seek a 2 trillion dollar increase in the debt ceiling. Given Mr. Obama’s penchant not to compromise, we will go over the cliff even if the sequestration issue will have been resolved within the Congress. That debt-ceiling increase will mark the beginning of a fully socialist America. Therefore, an Obama win will seal America’s fate as a debtor nation. Better to get this nasty business over with sooner rather than later. If Mr. Obama regains the Presidency, his epic failures will dwarf those of the peanut from Georgia. Whether Obama will have deserved his infamy will become irrelevant. It will be his as long as people can still read books.
I want Romney to win so badly it hurts, but I try in all things to go with the evidence even if I hate what I’m seeing, and judging from what we are presented with the popular vote will be a squeaker, Obama will win comfortably in the electoral college, and the Democrats will keep the senate. If I’m right, it will fill me with real despair for my country and my family.
In fear and trembling,
Richard
All things work out for the best:
Yes, M R cannot win. And it’s a good thing; for, as lame-duck, Obama would make lottsa bad pardons. And don’t lose heart otherwise, for, never in the least to detract form the forgoing, Biden will finish Obama’s term, . . .
Besides all the other stuff, I really want Ryan! Can anyone from the other side honestly say that they would be in favor of anything Biden? Just the thought of it. I’m making myself sick!
I KNOW ROMNEY WILL WIN. My anecdotal evidence:
- I spotted a Prius, the car that tilts “left,” with a prominent “Romney” sign (not Romney/Ryan, but Romney).
- Last week, on NPR a reporter kept saying Mr. Obama, not President Obama or Obama, but Obama. Shocking disrespect, especially for hyperliberal NPR.
- In 2008, our neighbor steamrolled us with his pro-Obama stance in ’08 — the man doesn’t come with volume control. We just listened in shocked silence. The next day his children called us Obama haters because we had a McCain/Palin sticker on our car. Fast-forward to 2012, our neighbor is not voting for Obama or anyone for that matter, and the kids didn’t say a peep about our modest but obvious Romney sign in our yard when we stopped to chat nearby.
- My nemesis, a former boss, who harassed me with emails of Media Matters and Democratic Underground “newsflashes” since 2008, stopped cold in 2012. Either he saw the light (meaning, Obama is not the messiah) or he saw the light (meaning, he croaked).
- In both my churches (I attend one Sunday and another Wednesday), the pastors have gone to great lengths to explain how this election matters and what’s at stake (without overtly advocating for Romney). They’ve unpacked and dispelled that Jesus is a socialist myth. I’m in my 40s, have attended church, and have never encountered this level of prepping a congregation for “biblically based voting.”
- My husband’s workplace is hyperliberal, and in 2008 it was an unbearable place to work. Since spring, there has been only one incident of promoting Obama, and that fizzled. No office cooler talk about the debates. The mood is pretty flat.
- I just felt compelled to type all this up and kick it off in annoying all caps with I KNOW ROMNEY WILL WIN.
Do you need more examples? Do you really need Victor Davis Hanson’s views? Look around you, people — you can see this with your own eyes!
Obama will win by a safe margin. He has the female vote, the youth vote, the Hispanic vote, the black vote, the gay vote, the Jewish vote, the non religious vote, the yuppie vote and the blue collar vote. It’s the same dynamic from 2008: there simply aren’t enough old white men to elect a president anymore, and those are the only people pulling for Romney. It’s a simple numbers game, and the GOP just doesn’t have the numbers.
That is a total of about 20 million votes (after crossovers), clustered in the Coastal urban cities and Chicago. There are over 25 million teapartiers and 58 million Catholics. Deducting crossevers that is about 65 million. distributed across the country. Go ahead, pop off them shoes and figure out which number is larger.
With Bronco Bama, you’r not connecting the dots so much as connecting the lies.
Gah! I hate the way you group Americans! Disgusting. Unless, of course it’s tongue in cheek. In that case…LOL. Romney/ Ryan 2012-2020!
See #64-
Drop of 13% support per American Thinker.
See final electoral results: Obama 332 EV, Romney, 206 EV. Popular vote, 50.5 to 48, Obama.
January 22, 2013 … Consider this
Psalm 37:35 and 36
35 I have seen the wicked in great power, and spreading himself like a green bay tree … yea, I sought him, but he could not be found.
Barack Obama won the 2008 Presidential election by a popular vote margin of 7.2% over John McCain. I don’t believe that margin will stand this time; in fact I believe the popular vote for Mitt Romney will be larger, as does The Washington Times.
Of course, the vote that matters is the electoral college vote. Obama won that 365 to 173. I optimistically predict Romney will win the 2012 race with 316 votes to 222 for Obama. Realistically, the electoral college vote is likely to be much closer.
For Obama/Biden to win in 2012, they will have to motivate huge numbers of new voters at the polls as many that voted for Obama in 2008 will not be voting for him this election. There are about 24 million people newly eligible to vote this election; less than half are registered; less than 30% will vote; of those that vote, about 60% (4.5 million) will vote for Obama. That’s not enough to offset the loss of confidence of this administration.
Here are some of the issues that have motivated conservatives, influenced independents and alienated some Democrats. These issues will influence groups that will either vote for Romney or not vote for Obama.
2010 Landslide Gains
The 2010 mid-term elections were historic. Fueled by Tea Party angst, it was the biggest gain for one party since 1948 (GOP won control of 19 state legislatures, some 650 seats, plus six governors), the biggest setback for a president since 1938 (GOP picked up 63 House seats, five Senate seats), and the largest influx of Republican women to the House and Senate ever (23 total).
The only thing that has changed from 2010 is that the Tea Party is now entrenched in the GOP and mobilizing the base. This is a huge force that is being overlooked by polls and the media.
ObamaCare
The onerous taxation and regulations being uncovered in the Affordable Health Care Act has motivated conservatives to vote against it by voting for Romney.
In case anyone forgot, the push for ClintonCare in 1993 was one of the issues that propelled the “Contract with America” to win the House for the first time in 40 years.
Many Americans were appalled at the notion “You have to vote for it to find out what’s in it” (via Nancy Pelosi). It was passed and judged constitutional. As the nation finds out what ObamaCare means for them, they want it changed.
The Catholic Vote
The Catholic Church is suing ObamaCare for violating the First Amendment guaranteeing religious liberty. This has Catholics, and other faiths, upset with Mr Obama, and will cost him much of the support he received in 2008.
According to Pew Research Center, Catholics make up 27% of the electorate, and favored Obama in 2008 by a seven point margin. In 2004, this group favored Bush over Kerry by a three point margin, and Gore over Bush by three points in 2000, proving the Catholic vote is mercurial.
The press has not spent much time covering this story. To help keep the faithful informed, the Church established a website to alert of the intrusion of government into religious freedoms.
The Catholic swing vote will be for Romney/Ryan.
The Economy
There has been modest economic gains since 2004, however this has been one of the slowest recoveries in American history. Individuals may not know or understand the details of why the economy is stalled, but they are aware that life is a greater struggle now than it used to be. As much as Mr Obama has tried to blame the morass on the previous administration, his policies have not significantly reduced the pain of the average citizen.
23 million people can’t find full-time work or are underemployed
7.9% unemployment under counts the underemployed, the actual number is close to 15% (this is the highest unemployment rate of any incumbent since Franklin Roosevelt during the Great Depression)
Job participation rate for men is the lowest since 1948
The median family income is down by 5% from 2008, to $50K from $55K
48 million Americans are now on food stamps, 32 million when Mr Obama took office
The lack of progress to right the U.S. economy will cost the administration the largest number of votes. People have seen that the community organizer hasn’t a clue and are willing to give a seasoned, successful businessman an opportunity.
The Debates
Mitt Romney has been portrayed by the administration and some in the media as some heartless ogre. America saw a calm, thoughtful and caring man in the debates. Obama didn’t show up for the first debate, and seemed less than presidential in the other two.
Paul Ryan, young and unknown, came across as a mature statesman compared to the childish mocking of Joe Biden.
The debates were a debacle for the administration, especially among independents.
Petulant Campaign
“If you don’t have a record to run on, then you paint your opponent as someone people should run from. You make a big election about small things”
- Barack Obama, DNC acceptance speech, 08/28/12
No soaring rhetoric this year. No fainting at rallies. No talk of unity. Obama and Biden haven’t give a reason to vote for them; the entire campaign has been why one should not vote for Romney/Ryan, and the reasons given have been small, petty and fear mongering. It has not played well with conservatives nor moderates.
White Guilt is Gone
More that a few white people voted for Barack Obama because he’s black. They didn’t want to appear racist, publicly or privately. Even if they disagreed with many of Obama’s policies, they where willing to vote for him to be part of history.
They were shocked to find any criticism of President Obama’s policies as racist. Some are dismayed over the radical agenda the President has promoted. They will not vote for him this time.
Black Vote Is Not Monolithic
Just like their white counterparts, many blacks voted for Mr Obama because of racial pride. Many in the media – and a lot of politicians – demean the black community by portraying them as monolithic in beliefs. Many conservative blacks will not be voting for Obama this time.
Benghazi
The mess in Benghazi will not be sorted out until after the election. Even without most of the media covering the story, it is creeping into the narrative. There are only two conclusions anyone with credibility can draw: either the administration was incompetent or malicious.
Benghazi won’t account for a large number of votes, but it will change some – especially the votes of military families.
Fast and Furious
The U.S. armed Mexican drug cartels and people died, at least one border patrol agent and more than 150 Mexican civilians. Once again the press has allowed this to be an obscure issue, but those that have followed it blame the Obama administration.
ABC/Univision has an excellent article from the Mexican perspective.
Media Bias
Conservatives are furious, and independents curious, over the mainstream media pass given this administration on nearly everything from domestic policy, to skewing economic news, to foreign affairs. This is motivating some to vote that may have otherwise sat out the election.
Same Sex Marriage
The President’s embrace of same sex marriage solidified a base that was likely voting for him, and may pick up a few moderate voters, but it also energized the religious right, including some in the black church community.
Class Warfare
People are smart enough to realize that the class warfare promoted by Mr Obama is not the answer. This is especially true for the middle and upper class voters. Promising higher taxes on the “wealthy,” a group that already feels overtaxed, is a sure path to losing votes.
Energy Policy – Specifically Coal
Obama claims Romney cannot be trusted to support coal production in the United States because he lambasted a coal-powered energy plant while governor. However, it is the administration that has consistently backed numerous regulations that has coal in the crosshairs. Mr Obama once said: “So, if somebody wants to build a coal powered plant, they can. Its just that it will bankrupt them because they’re going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that will be emitted.”
The administration animosity toward coal will cost them precious votes in crucial swing states.
Wow, pegged it.
If any American apart from the Racist Blacks and the irredeemable left wing moonbats vote for the Benghazi bottler, Affirmative Action, Teleprompter Kid, Unqualified, Incompetent, Inefficient, Financially inept, USURPER then they truly deserve to be described as MORONS.
I will be interested in seeing how Delaware plays out. For years, it was also considered a bellwether state; this cycle there has been no polling there since last year or very early this year. Biden, a revered senator for more than three decades and regularly re-elected because of his accumulated gravitas, was no doubt a major factor in the way the state voted in 2008. However, he has proven to be an unmitigated disaster and a very personal embarassment to tiny little Delaware. Still, there are still the useful idiot, white-guilt, lifetime Democrats and union trough-feeders who would vote for Elmer Fudd if he had a “D” in back of his name, especially if he was a claim to national prominence for an otherwise obscure little backwater.
I do hear, though from friends and family, that the state is not quite as sewn up for Barry and Biteme as we are led to believe, and wouldn’t it be funny indeed if Delaware went red and the electoral margin were three points?
Deja vu Tennessee 2000? That would sting all right.
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What effect, exactly, does the size of the debt have on your life? You seem extremely upset about it, so it must be something really major.
Why were McCarthy and Simon and Hanson and Kimball and Walsh and Smith and Fernandez and Adams and Klavan and Pacepa wrong? And what would they say about a mainstream media source with the same record?
But they were right, Substance! It’s just that the facts failed them.
You guys did know you were talking trash all along, right?
I commend the the courage of the pundits at PJM for leaving up a set of predictions for the election so wrong. I called the election almost exactly, not by being smarter than your average bear, but simply by reading the polls, particularly the Rasmussen poll which has for the last 4 elections been eerily accurate.
The close split of the popular vote suggests to me that we may be divided into two nations, the Obama Nation and the NoBama Nation. Count me in the latter camp. I will try to survive the future of this company because I have responsibilities to others, but the immigration policies since the sixties have been designed to take away the political power of people like me and has apparently succeeded. My citizenship is now simply a contractual agreement, not an affair of the heart. If I had the money to escape I would.
A faithful resident of PJM town,
Richard
So when are you folks going to come out and admit that you were wrong and were basically making up the numbers? Nate Silver has you dead to rights.
Thank for this page full of comedy and errors.
Between the predictions and the conspiracy theory comments, this makes Obama’s victory even better.
102. BGGB
Laugh till it hurts, BGGB. Pain is the best teacher.
Richard
My goodness what a spectacular array of wrongness!
This article sounds like what my co-workers were saying last week. You wouldn’t believe how much money I won from them wagering on the election, that I would pay up if Romney won, but they only had to pay me if Obama got 303+ electoral votes.
See you suckers in 2016.
If Obama is toast, does that make Romney a soggy biscuit?
LOL you wingnuts got pwned
Wow, It’s amazing to see most of you guys completely going with your right wing bias rather than going with the overwhelming data that the state by state polling numbers showed. There was absolutely no data that would have suggested a big Romney win let alone a ‘landslide’. It really makes people question how legitimately you guys weigh all the facts and issues we face.
Hahahahahahahahaha. Oh man. Soooooo many tears. Did a one of you actually believe this delusional nonsense? It is good to see that your commenters are open about their virulent racism and violent tendencies now.
If I may paraphrase ol’ Woody G., all you fascists were bound to lose!
wow, the wrong about everything crowd who loved the prez that deliberately ignored the warnings about 9-11 and launched a criminally incompetently executed war of choice in iraq while handing out billion dollar no-bid contracts to cronies, yet are apoplectic about the made-up non-scandals of benghazi and solyndra, and who are upset about the deficit that their dear leader created with a failed economic ideology that fails and fails and fails some more and drove the country into the ditch were also hilarious wrong about the election? YOU DONT SAY!
Beautiful! Could not have said it any better.
I am laughing my ass off reading this. It makes Obama’s victory all the more sweeter. The fact that Romney thought he was going to win proved he was unfit to lead the country. A person that divorced from reality has no business being President.
Glad his sorry ass is headed back to Massachusetts…or Michigan…or Utah…or the Caymans..or wherever the hell he likes to call home.
LMAO.
Don’t forget his house on Planet Kolob!
This is still funny, thanks.