Educating Conservatives About Sharia’s Threat
In his famous conclusion (from paragraph 51), Judge Hand states:
It is of course possible that the defendants are inspired with the fanatical conviction that they are in possession of the only gospel which will redeem this sad Planet and bring on a Golden Age. If so, we need not consider how far that would justify the endless stratagems to which they resorted; and it is not for us to say whether such a prosecution makes against the movement or, on the contrary, only creates more disciples; ours is only to apply the law as we find it. Once the question is answered whether the Smith Act is valid, and whether there was evidence before the jury from which they might hold it violated, we can find no privilege and no right denied them which had substance. We know of no country where they would have been allowed any approach to the license here accorded them; and none, except Great Britain, where they would have had so fair a hearing. Their only plausible complaint is that that freedom of speech which they would be the first to destroy, has been denied them. We acknowledge that that freedom is not always easy to protect; and that there is no sharp line which marks its scope. We have tried to show that what these men taught and advocated is outside the zone …
Earlier, in paragraph 15, Judge Hand — describing the font of militant global Communism, Communist Soviet Russia — made this direct analogy:
By far the most powerful of all the European nations [Russia] had been a convert to Communism for over thirty years; its leaders were the most devoted and potent proponents of the faith; no such movement in Europe of East to West had arisen since Islam (emphasis added).
Jules Monnerot’s 1949 Sociologie du Communisme was translated into English and published as Sociology and Psychology of Communism in 1953. Monnerot made very explicit connections between pre-modern Islamic and 20th century Communist totalitarianism. The title of his first chapter dubbed Communism the “The Twentieth Century Islam.” He elucidates two primary shared characteristics of Islam and Communism: “conversion” — followed by subversion — from within, and the fusion of “religion” and state. Citing Stalin (circa 1949) as the contemporary personification, Monnerot elaborated on this totalitarian consolidation (“condensation”) of power shared by Islam and Communism, and the refusal of these universalist creeds to accept limits on their “frontiers.” Monnerot further observes that to those who did not accept their ideology, or self-proclaimed “mission,” Communism — and Islam before it — were viewed as imperialistic religious fanaticisms. Finally Monnerot underscores how incoherent Western intellectual apologists for totalitarianism — whether Communist or Islamic — promote the advance of these destructive ideologies.
Allah will punish you for insulting Islam. Why do you hate Muslims? Why do you oppose the Sharia — God’s Law? Allah’s laws are for all nations, all countries and for all time. All other laws are man-made and must submit to the will of Allah.
Your infidel lifestyle has proven to be a total and absolute failure. You degenerate Westerners way of life is collapsing all around you. You are unable to solve your own problems. We have the answer. We have a better way of life. We have the right solution for all crises and this is the observance of the divine law, namely the Sharia. We call to implement the Sharia in the U.K. The Sharia is the perfect system for humanity. We invite the British leaders, the politicians, all the media and cultural elites, and every British resident to submit to the light of Islam. Save yourself and your children of the painful punishment of the hereafter and grant yourself eternal life in paradise. There is no God but Allah, and Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah.
Why do you oppose the Sharia — God’s Law? Look at what your decadent culture and sick societies have produced: sexual immorality, pornography, prostitution, divorces, broken families, filthy movies, homosexual marriage, drugs, alcohol, gambling, consumerism, materialism, hedonism… Why do you persist in your filthy decadent Western culture? It is self-destructive. It destroys families. It destroys children. Nothing good comes out of your sick poisonous culture. The Sharia will save you from yourselves.
We will never let you spread the pollution & poison our children’s minds. We will fight to the death in order to keep your decadent culture out of our societies. You decadent infidels are disgusting. Keep your vile culture to yourselves. Stop trying to export it to our countries. We will fight you to the end … and we will prevail … even if it takes 100 years. Allahu Akbar!
When you have proved Allah exists then you could possibly be taken seriously. Until now he is the figment of of a seventh century Arab’s fertile imagination with sharia laws added long after his death in the form of the ahadith.I fail to see how any modern educated being can remained chained to such a backward culture. And I am fully aware muslims are chained, lateral thinking would bring the whole shebang down with an almighty clang. Fear is a great deterrent especially when it is fear of the unknown. Because you do not, or cannot know that any unseeable, untouchable entity is real. And yet, muslims do believe that they must submit to laws laid down by this unknown ethereal being who will end their life should they question his existence. What a sad depressing existence beleivers must live only to discover that there is no hereafter and their lives have been a lie.
And I can assure you that we are more than happy to leave Islam to muslims in their own countries – yes, we have decadence in our culture but we are working through that to obtain a better life. You try to persuade us that these things do not happen in Islam because of Sharia but we all know they do. Iran has the biggest drug problem in the world – the rest of the Islamic world is a nightmare for women due to Sharia. When Islam can invent the technology of the west, the medicine, literature and art etc. then your culture will be equal to ours. One only has to look at the illiteracy, starvation and corruption where Islam is dominant and the ongoing tribal/sectarian savagery we see on the nightly news bulletins to see how far your religion has dragged you down but none of you have the courage to admit you are still living in an age long surpassed by logical and rational thinkers.
Given the statistics it seems that many muslims head for the west and the benefit of living in countries in which they will not be left to starve, have access to free education and medical services where everyone (including women) is guaranteed equality.
I presume you are a male but am unsure why you use London in your address – is it because of the high level of education possibly not available in your home country?
Greetings Mr. Islamist,
You should get back to your Islamic roots immediately. You need to hurry back to the desert to get away from the evil Western ways. It is horrible to actually have choices in life, if you have no brains to use them. On the way back to your roots, make sure you follow everything in your koran. Please walk back to the desert as your moon god follower mohammed didn’t mention cars did he? Please stop using internet as there was no mention of that and you might accidentally go to a porno site. Don’t worry, no one will miss any of you.
If Allah really did exist, it would be necessary to abolish him.
Nothing good? What about cake?
Delicious tempting cake.
Your infidel lifestyle has proven to be a total and absolute failure. You degenerate Westerners way of life is collapsing all around you. You are unable to solve your own problems. We have the answer. We have a better way of life. We have the right solution for all crises and this is the observance of the divine law, namely the Sharia>
Gee, who has been indulging in ruthless and stupid slaughter all over the planet for decades now ?
Wait a minute, it will come to me
C’mon, are you really an islamist?
You seem too intelligent.
Nicely written response with bits of logic but claiming fantasy as fact.
It’s pretty well done.
Definitely not islamist.
I’m thinking it’s a sock puppet.
My God is Jesus Christ. He alone gives eternal life, because He alone conquered death. All who preach a different gospel, like your false prophet Mohammed, shall suffer the punishment of eternal Gehenna, where “their worm will not die, nor will their fire be extinguished.” Jesus Christ is my King, my God and my Savior, and it is His Laws, not your impostor’s, that I shall obey.
Your comment reminds me of a line from an old Billy Joel song: “I’d rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints. The sinners have more fun.”
LOL! You forgot the PBUH and to sign off after your death-threats with “Peace!” but other than that, it was a well done spoof!
The rebuttal is of course all too easy, using only your own words, too:
Re: “Look at what your decadent culture and sick societies have produced: sexual immorality, pornography, prostitution, divorces, broken families, filthy movies, homosexual marriage, drugs, alcohol, gambling, consumerism, materialism, hedonism… Why do you persist in your filthy decadent Western culture? It is self-destructive. It destroys families. It destroys children. Nothing good comes out of your sick poisonous culture.”
We can just substitute “islam” (&/or Muhammad, himself LOL!) for “Western culture” in the above rant, and it’s all FACT (except for the filthy movies bit) because Muhammad did NOT sanction “alcohol” per se, but only very specifically “Wine” (and date-wine)! The compendiums of sharia specifically ALLOW alcohol, so long as it’s not in those two forms! Nabeeh, fermented mares milk, fermented hops (beer) vodka, etc – it’s all good! Since Moe also never specified drugs, they are also permitted for moslems to indulge in at will!
Hmmm! Come to think of it, if filthy movies had been available in 7th century Arabia, islam would never have been miscreated, because Moe, being the sex addicted horndog that he was, would have never left his living room!
From “Reliance of the Traveler”, o16.1
“Any beverage that intoxicates when taken in large quantities is unlawful both in small and large quantities, whether it is wine, (A:fermented) raisin drink, or something else.”
Don’t you get it God is love not hate!! Allah who is Satan tells one to do violence and hate against those who do not believe in him
Do Christians throw acid in their wives faces, marry little girls and rape them , blow themselves up and kill thousands of innocent people.?
Islam is an evil that should be eradicated from the earth, like the filth that it is a pollutant of mankind
sharia is NOT God’s law because allah is NOT God.
The bottom line is the House of Saud ( Saudi Arabian ruling family ), founded, funds, and organizes global promotion of Sharia law through its branches of Wahhabi School systems, funding of Muslim Brotherhood, the organization of Islamic States, Hamas, all these groups are organized and funded by Royal Saudi families.
Until the USA recognizes who its enemies truly are, it is nonsense to maintain charade of protesting Sharia law when we are in bed with its main protagonist and funding group.
A very big part of why way too few Americans take the threat from Islam and Muslims seriously is because we are told by our Presidents (Bush and Obama) and our generals and others that it is just AlQ, and now mostly the Taliban (as there are practically no AlQ left in Afcrapistan so we need a new reason to stay there) that is the big enemy and that as part of their stupid “Wining Hearts and Minds”, the rest of Islam and the vast majority of Muslims are our “Partners in Peace”, so meanwhile Islam and Muslims make inroads all over the planet including in Europe and America. By painting the Taliban as such a dangerous public enemy number one, and the vast majority of Muslims as our “partners in peace”, these dangerous idiots are whitewashing Islam and could be, with enough time, the death or subjugation of us all.
I am an anti-islam bigot. I hate the leader, I hate the belief, I hate what it teaches about women, I hate what it does to countries who adopt it, and finally I hate it. Did I mention that I hate it?
You’re not alone Lynn. #1 islamist needs to go to the nearest islamic country post haste, and take all his savage islamist buddies with him. I can’t even believe how the majority of Americans are so uninformed as to the domineering history of islam. (Caps avoided intentionally) Islam needs to be classified as a barbarous cult, an evil political ideology, and cease all immigration from Islamic countries. Islam is not compatable with the democratic values in our republic. Keep spreading the word.
Sooner or later we have to recognize the obvious. If we have Muslim people in our country who wear the garb, do the prayers, adhere to the customs then they are in fact ‘not our friends’ and we are the fools.
WE cannot allow our country to be overrun by Islam. We cannot have schools that teach their hate in our nation. Europe is now starting to see what these stupid policies are doing to civil society. Soon we will also be in the same boat.
Allowing sharia courts to operate in parallel with U.S. civil courts is a big mistake. This is either the United States or it is not. Either our Constitution is the supreme law of the land or it is not. There is no middle ground. Soon we will rue the day that we allowed Muslims and Communists to be elected to our government offices. Muslims and Communists are of the same stripe only one has a false god, but they both are totalitarian regimes.
I hate crime, too! Islam is only an ancient, ongoing extortion-racket crime-syndicate, and all its “moslem” members are criminals! And Sharia is simply the case-law interpretations of all the rules of crime as laid out in the Qur’an! It’s the rules and procedures developed to clarify and implement “allah’s” (Moe’s) demands for world conquest and to micro-manage everyone’s lives by so bogging them down into mindless, time-wasting rituals that they will never have the opportunity to think for, and thus free, themselves, from it all!
All moslems are criminals because, by their own rules, they must endorse in public every word in the Qur’an.
And the Qur’an tells them that they are so “superior” to all non-moslem humans, that it’s not only their right, but also their holy duty to their god, to extort, enslave, and murder all the non-moslems in the world, simply for the “crime” of not being moslems.
So the Qur’an is a written hate-crime book expressing a permanent death-threat.
And all threats are psychological attacks (aka: coercion, duress, extortion, “terrorism”) and all non-defensive attacks are already classified as crimes.
After all, when you attack the Others first, then, by definition, you are the predatory criminal aggressor, and they are your innocent victims – there’s no two ways about it!
(Attacking second, in defense of one’s self and/or of innocent others, is always OK, and is in fact a mandatory requirement for having any sort of deterring justice in the world at all, ever)!
Here’s islam’s “holy Message from god” as exemplified by the words and deeds of it’s Founder:
“I will save humanity by lying to, robbing, extorting, torturing, burning out of their homes, kidnapping and ransoming, enslaving, raping and murdering everyone who even only verbally disagrees with me – and you can, too!”
-Muhammad-
So obviously, islam is ONLY an ancient, ongoing extortion-racket CRIME-syndicate, and the only “religious” part in it, is where they say:
“God told us to commit these crimes!”
(Capisce?)!
BAN ISLAM – because everything moslems pretend to consider “holy” is already a crime!
You are not alone Lynn.
Don’t hold back now…
Good article. Schmitz did miss a point about “canon law covering the globe.”
There is a better comparison between Sharia & Christian Reconstructionism with dominion theology.
Yesterday’s Sharia victim; her father slaughtered as well
Oooh, Sharia, its coming to take your daughters! Mr. Bostom is just another shill, making money by ginning up the “Sharia” threat. It ain’t a threat folks, someone is taking your money and his name is Bostom. God bless and go forward.
Ooh, look, everybody! It’s a “progressive,” here to tell us to “move forward” because islam isn’t a threat, because he (and he alone) says so! “Whee!”
@Brutus: islam IS a threat to everyone, because IT says so.
The Qur’an tells these holy mobsters, it’s “moslem” members of the islamic crime-gang, that they are so “superior” to all non-moslem humans, that it’s not only their right, but also their holy duty to their god, to extort, enslave, and murder all the non-moslems in the world, simply for the “crime” of their not being moslems.
So the Qur’an is a written hate-crime book expressing a permanent death-threat.
Here’s islam’s “holy Message from god” as exemplified by the collective words and deeds of it’s Founder:
“I will save humanity by lying to, robbing, extorting, torturing, burning out of their homes, kidnapping and ransoming, enslaving, raping and murdering everyone who even only verbally disagrees with me – and you can, too!”
-Muhammad-
So obviously, islam is ONLY an ancient, ongoing extortion-racket CRIME-syndicate, and the only “religious” part in it, is where they say:
“God told us to commit these crimes!”
(Capisce?)!
BAN ISLAM – because everything moslems pretend to consider “holy” is already a crime!
And, “Sharia” is simply the case-law interpretations of all the rules laid out in the Qur’an!!!! It’s the rules and procedures developed to clarify and implement “allah’s” (Moe’s) demands for violent world conquest and to micro-manage everyone’s lives by so bogging them down into mindless, time-wasting rituals that they will never have the opportunity to think for, and thus free, themselves, from it all!
PS: You’re welcome! Now go forth, proclaim this factual Truth, and sin (lie to everyone in public here, by presenting only your fact-free opinions AS facts) no more!
QUE BRUTO, BRUTUS!
While Bernard Lewis notices that the symptoms of the two creeds are different, (as evinced by the Marxist creed formed as the islamic one: “There is no God and Karl Marx is his Prophet!”), in reality, the cause is the same: Islam and sharia are based on Arabic tribal norms – which means only groups i.e: the family, clan and tribe – have rights, while individuals never do.
Property is communal, not individual (no individual has any real property rights, and so, nobody has any real rights at all); islam is a totalitarian conformity, exactly like all other left-wing group-rights might worshipping idolatrous excuse constructs; ISLAM IS COMMUNISM.
We all know that diligent searching will uncover courts that are ready to deliver themselves of the most outrageous, illogical decisions if given half the chance and the issue is cloaked in political correctness. Is this an indictment of the system? No. It IS an indictment of those who use the system to establish their own flaky perceptions of existing law, and were probably politically appointed. they need to be exposed but who is willing to bell the cat?
Don’t you get it God is love not hate!! Allah who is Satan tells one to do violence and hate against those who do not believe in him
Do Christians throw acid in their wives faces, marry little girls and rape them , blow themselves up and kill thousands of innocent people.?
Islam is an evil that should be eradicated from the earth, like the filth that it is a pollutant of mankind
Another viewpoint on the same incident:
http://pjmedia.com/spengler/2012/06/14/the-sad-silence-about-muslim-wife-beating/
Unless the West finds a way to stop the moral rot in our culture within the bounds of the liberal democracy,people like ISLAMIST will prove hard to refute.It’s only a matter of time before Islam begins to recruit from among the ramks of young adolescent males, insulted, discriminated against, and marginalized by our stupid feminism and hatred of masculinity;when it does, watch out.The West will find that many people would prefer living under Sharia, than living in a world of institutionalized,greed, vulgarity,debt,sexualized children and the nanny state.