These boys bought a mentally ill bargain basement stripper and not the $2000 per night call girl.
Her mental illness has been brought up several times but I wonder if those guy knew she was mentally ill.

Their lives will go on with these lessons learned.
Lesson: Even after a guy has his life damaged by a false accusation the lying woman is still the victim somehow.

That is a good point Michael B. When someone talks about women who ogle men its silencing but when someone talks about men who ogle women its calling them on their male privilege…funny that.

Here’s what I think – this scheming tart should be prosecuted and banged up for at least five years. And the prosecutor for ten. A woman who made a false accusation in the UK was recently jailed for a year.

Making money out of her crime is doubly disgusting. Whatever the book says, it is disgusting. Even if she’s sorry – you shouldn’t make money out of remorse, but quietly go and stew in it.

Good for you, Mary.

What do you think of Sarah Palin, btw? I’m besotted.

Then of course there are the educated women who are the high class call girls of which the Duke case was not about. These boys bought a mentally ill bargain basement stripper and not the $2000 per night call girl. Spitzer’s call girl, by family and friend’s account herself had been the victim of sexual abuse as a child. Sex work is not something any woman wants to do.

I sincerely hope Nyfong is never premitted to practice law again.

1. T hemajority of street prostitutes, which are probably the majority of all prostitutes, may or may not have been abused – since you don’t specify what kind of abuse you mean, it’s hard to tell. Do you have information to back up your assertion? It’s sounds reasonable to me, bt we need actual facts about actual people. Human trafficking is different but even more horrific. There it is usually a form of kidnapping based on luring wit the offer of jobs (Russians, etc.) or by menas of fangled up gambling debts (Koreans).

2. True but apply that logic to drugs, or alcohol, or for that matter any other vice such as consumerism and meat-eating. I don’t see any particular connection here with human trafficking, but I do see an issue of free commerce between adults and forced labor and of where to distinguish between the two, and come to think of it, that is a crucial issue in human trafficking.

3. He is so despicable that his name may enter the language to describe his behavior.

1. most women who end up as prostitutes (if they aren’t forced by traffickers) have been abused sexually, with much of the abuse going un-reported. That is not them failing themselves. That is society failing to protect them.

2. without the demand, there is no supply. this goes to the larger issue of human sex trafficking.

3. Nyfong failed her by using her – as per your own words.

You’re right. It’s one remark by one prosecutor in one jurisdiction, howeverlarge that jurisdiction happens to be. What it will take is a nationwide study. Maybe DOJ has done something on this.

The Innocence Project is a nationwide effort,and rape convictions are obviously one of the areas where they are active because of the emotionalism and sometimes the racism asscoiated with these cases. They would have some stats, but of course, they can get people cleared only in cases where the vidence has been saved.

Your comment about the 60% is also true. And the real point is that if the stats were that only 5% of accusations are true, if you happen to be one of those 5%, you are a crime victim, there is a criminal who shouyld be punished, and the other 95% are irrelevant.

“Of the 40% – if that figure is true – falsely accused, how many were convicted. Very, very few.”

That probably varies widely across the Anglosphere. You in Britain are reported to have a very low conviction rate. Rape gets prosecuted in my part of the world very vigorously, the prosecution has certain preporgatives with regard to rules of evidence that it doesn’t have in other cases, and the prison population has a fair percentage of rapists.

“If the alleged rapists had been black and the alleged victim white – statistically far more likely – would the case have got this far?”

Generally no, not nowadays – and certainly not in this particular jurisdiction. But in the same way men are expected to make up for centuires of oppression they are to have inflicted on women, why shouldn’t white women have to make up for centuries of oppression they certainly did visit on black men? Because it’s absurd and repugnant, maybe?

ddc,

“How is society failing women that they find themselves needing to sell their bodies.”

No, how are SOME women failing themsleves to the point that their bodies are all they have to sell? Plenty of women with fewer options don’t prostitute themselves. Besides, it’s her body; who are you or any of us to say she can do with her body? In any case, she didn’t sell her body, she only rented it temptorarily, and calling it a sale is a grossly insensitve comparison to slavery, in North Carolina of all places.

“These men from Duke sought to “buy” this woman to do whatever they paid her to do chances are they would never have been in such a situation.”

In other words, she was taking their money. Who was really using whom?

“the larger culprit her was Nyfong. He failed his client and failed the justice system.”

Absolutely he is the worst culprit here. He didn’t just fail her, he used for his own ends. His big mistake was believing her when her stroy was flaky form the beginning.

*cricket chirp*

Just asking!

These men from Duke sought to “buy” this woman to do whatever they paid her to do chances are they would never have been in such a situation. Hopefully their families imparted this to them. And perhaps after the ordeal, which thankfully turned out in their favour, they were asked by families to think about their intended “use” of the woman they purchased that night and maybe even asked to think about women who would sell themselves and consider what must have led her to such a life which no doubt consisted of more than just stripping for money.

It is comforting to know that these guys felt compassion towards her after it all. Their lives will go on with these lessons learned. And hopefully this woman will get the help she needs so that she can have a chance for some kind of normal life outside selling herself.

Based on her apparent mental illness it’ll be interesting to read an unbiased review of this woman’s story when it hits the stands. Maybe she’ll have a lucid moment where she even offers an apology.