Drunkblogging the Last Presidential Debate
I have C-SPAN. I have an ice bucket. I have a Canadian whisky, the name of which I’m too embarrassed to type. I have a certain glee, knowing I won’t have to drunkblog another presidential debate until the Democrats and/or Republicans start going at it again in 2015.
What would I like to see tonight? I’d love to see Romney hammer Obama on the Benghazi timeline, and on the deaths caused directly by Fast & Furious. But that’s a gut-level want, dictated by four years of moronic and deadly amateurism in the West Wing and at Foggy Bottom. It’s not what Romney probably needs to do tonight.
What Romney should due is display commander-in-chiefness. To show that he’ll provide continuity where that is required, and to show professionalism everywhere else.
I think he’s up to that.
Obama still needs to reverse his three-week slide. So I expect him to come fully armed with Axelrod/Plouffe talking points, which will have nothing to do with actual foreign policy, and everything to do with energizing his base and driving wedges between Romney and his base.
It’s going to get ugly, because for Obama, it has to be.
5:44PM On C-SPAN, I just heard for the first time ever, somebody give a shout-out to their tax attorney. Although if ObamaCare goes into effect, I expect to hear a lot more of those.
5:45PM Backstage, Bob Schieffer is undergoing his pre-show ritual of having a giant syringe of adrenalin injected directly into the place where his heart was.
5:52PM The gentleman just done speaking expressed his hope for a “spirited and enlightening” dialog. I expect he’ll be half-right.
5:53PM Ann looks great. Michelle looks washed out in her oddly high-topped outfit.
5:53PM Here’s Doddering Bob. But don’t let the doddering act fool you. He knows exactly what he’s doing.
5:54PM “We want a debate that is worthy of the presidency,” says Schieffer.
Lincoln and Douglas could not be reached for comment.
5:57PM Dear liver, please forgive me for the sins I am about to commit…
5:59PM I haven’t heard this many throats being cleared since the headmaster showed up for an assembly with his fly undone.
6:02PM “Good to see you again,” said Romney.
Given the last few weeks, that might not have been a very friendly greeting.
6:04PM Obama: Stop nodding.
6:05PM Romney is spending a lot of time on the setup, not a lot of time on What It All Means.
6:06PM “We can’t kill our way out of this mess.”
Obama, the reckless cowboy!
6:07PM “My first job as commander-in-cheif… ”
This is the incumbent’s greatest strength.
6:07PM Obama: I’m making friends around the world.
C’mon, Mitt – hammer him on that one.
6:09PM Obama is doing the Death Stare again. It’s better than Denver when he stared at his shoes, but it reminds me of the health care summit when Ryan challenged him.
6:12PM Mitt has hit twice now on women and the Arab world — aiming for those suburban Moms. And now Obama is hitting on Romney’s “recklessness.”
6:16PM Obama is hitting on Iraq — which is just a replay of his 2008 campaign against Hillary.
6:18PM Obama is hitting hard, and Romney isn’t hitting back on policy, just on how the world is messed up.
We know the world is messed up. What we need to know is:
1) What Obama has done wrong.
2) What Romney would do differently.
6:22PM “The Libyans stand with us.” Perhaps, Mr. President. But are they in control of their own country?
6:25PM Mitt’s looking mad now. But it’s his own fault for not hitting Obama on bad policy.
6:28PM That was a strange segue by Obama into nation-building at home or some such. I’m not sure what money he hasn’t spent domestically.
6:29PM Next segment: What is America’s role in the world?
6:31PM “America must be strong, America must lead.” Romney, shifting the debate back to getting the economy to grow.
Obama, meanwhile, has turned his Eye Lasers up to “Obliterate an Entire Planet.”
6:32PM Obama: Foreign policy is hiring teachers and Solyndra. Or something.
6:33PM Obama: Foreign policy is tax hikes for solar panels. Or something.
6:35PM Romney: Foreign policy is training programs! The Federal government already has about 40 different training programs. Zero, to me, seems like a better number than 41.
6:38PM Obama, quit interrupting. Who do you think you are, Joe Biden?
6:40PM Obama Interruptus.
He started off so strong in the first half hour, but in the last ten minutes he’s coming across as completely unpresidential. That’s a big win for Romney.
6:43PM Mitt looking more presidential, talking about the age and size of our Air Force and Navy. Obama, meanwhile, has turned his Eyeball Lasers up to “Ishtar.”
6:46PM Not sure I’ve ever seen a President look smaller than Obama getting snarky about aircraft carriers and nuclear attack subs.
6:47PM Yesterday, Axelrod said Iran’s currency was down 50%. Today, Obama says 80%. Who’s right?
6:51PM Obama denying reports of a deal to recognize Iran’s nuclear “rights.”
6:55PM “It’s essential for a president to show strength from the very beginning.” -Romney
That, Yoda says, is why you fail.
Obama: “Nothing he said is true.”
Nothing?
6:57PM “America has not dictated to other nations; America has freed other nations.”
That’s gonna leave a mark.
7:02PM Romney nicely driving a wedge between Obama and Jewish voters. But Florida is already won.
7:03PM Huh. Obama killed Osama. That must be the October Surprise.
7:05PM What I would like to hear from either candidate is how us training up 315,000 Afghan soldiers is better than the Soviets having trained up thousands of Afghan soldiers.
7:10PM Seriously. Both of you. Stop pretending anything good is going to come out of Afghanistan, other than our troops.
7:12PM Did I just hear Schieffer say “Obama bin Laden?” Everyone on Twitter is telling me I did. Did you hear it? #Fail
7:15PM Final segment. My liver, lacking lungs, somehow just breathed a sigh of relief.
7:25PM It’s not too early for some final thoughts.
It’s saddening to have been right, when I wrote that Obama would bring the snark. He did. Not very often, but when he did he came across as small and mean. That was the Obama we saw in Denver. At his best, he came across as the commander-in-damn-chief, which is exactly what he is. But most of those flashes came in the first 30 minutes.
Romney needed to come across as a potential commander-in-chief. You know, the same guy we saw in the last two debate. And we saw that guy again tonight — at least in the last two-thirds of the show.
As I write these words, Obama is trying to school Romney on job creation, and all I can think is, “Who does he think he’s trying to [REDACTED] fool?”
That, I think, is as fine a coda for this debate, for this series of debates, as I can muster. Obama has run far and fast from his own record. Romney, I’m sorry to say, hasn’t always hit him for that as much or as strongly as I think he should have.
But is Romney credible?
Yes. Romney is credible. Perfect? No. Credible, yes.
And that’s a win tonight.
Obama came in with an impossible task, to act as a spoiler and to appear presidential.
And that is why he fails.
I am doing Merlot again, but I have two bottles, this time.
Ditto: red wine. Ditto: stocked up, just in case.
No hockey
but at least we still get the fights.
Cheers!
Diet Coke-blogging here. I have an early, early morning tomorrow.
Yeah. It sucks.
Me, too. You’re going to need a better excuse than that.
Parents are in town, and they’re basically teetotalers, otherwise I’d be heavily into my second Evan Williams. Have fun. Can’t wait for drunk blogging the returns. I hope.
Great idea!
Though drunkblogging through the returns until the race is decided could be deadly.
And you need a good excuse for that choice of liquor for the last debate…Maker’s Mark here!
I plead Obama economy
I left a window open last night, the room got too chilly and I woke up with a stiff neck, so it’s too hard to drink.
Also, my thumb is sore.
And I have to stay up all night to see if I snore.
I have to make sure the cat doesn’t spontaneously combust.
The Pope may be coming over to visit.
The liquor store was struck by a meteor.
(I have more.)
I left a window open last night, the room got too chilly and I woke up with a stiff neck, so it’s too hard to drink. – The alcohol will loosen your muscles.
Also, my thumb is sore. – Use a bottle opener. Or break the top off.
And I have to stay up all night to see if I snore. – Irish coffee. Alcohol plus caffine. (plus sugar and fat. It’s the perfect food!)
I have to make sure the cat doesn’t spontaneously combust. – Put it in the freezer. It’ll be fine.
The Pope may be coming over to visit. – So break out the good stuff.
The liquor store was struck by a meteor. – Uhhh, okay, I’ll give you that one.
The liquor store was struck by a meteor. – Proper response would be. “but the liquors safe, its at my house and half drunk!
I ran out of gas. I… I had a flat tire. I didn’t have enough money for cab fare. My tux didn’t come back from the cleaners. An old friend came in from out of town. Someone stole my car. There was an earthquake. A terrible flood. Locusts! IT WASN’T MY FAULT, I SWEAR TO GOD!
Sounds like Obama trying to explain his administrations’ successes over the last four years . . .
Isn’t that Mr. Obama’s campaign slogan?
Stephen,
If I may, I would like to suggest that you switch to a better bourbon. At least one made in the US. Now I ain’t got a problem with that Canadian stuff. It’s just the thought that we should be doing everything that we can to improve our own economy, especially if we intend to bash The One on the economy. I would suggest Jim Beam as an excellent choice. It is made in Kentucky, and it won’t break the bank so to speak when you purchase it. In addition, I would also recommend that you try Jim Beam’s Rye Whiskey. I am a pervert when it comes to good rye whiskey, and this is pretty damn good. I know that you probably prefer Vodka. Oh well. I absolutely love your blogs. Tell the guys at Trifecta howdy for me. Ya’ll a trip!
Diet Coke??
I am doing Scotch and Soda.
Also I am in Australia (hence have no vote in this one), it is lunchtime Tuesday and I am at work.
Harden up and show some commitment!!
What I want to see, is the first time Obama stumbles, Romney looks over at Teh Moderator, and says “Bob, he’s floundering. Do you have a transcript you could misquote in order to help him out a little?”
+1
You seem to have a knack for Romney one-liners. I think that is the second one I’ve seen you write today. I would say you could write for the next TOTUS, but let’s hope it falls into disuse.
All I am interested in seeing is when obumma goes from being a ‘president’ to being a eunuch.
There is no way obumma can point to any foreign policy positive. Everything he has come near on the foreign policy front has turned into a disaster. Schieffer will do what he can to save obumma’s bacon (can I say that about a muslim?) but there just isn’t anything positive for obumma to hang his hat on tonight.
WooHoo! Brilliant! Simultaneous smack down of Obama & Candy.
Sarah A Hoyt says I have to behave on your drunkblog. Dang it. Go for it, Steve!!!
Kitteh-Dragon
I never said any such thing.
No, *she* did
She knows me too well 
If LinW has to behave, then I reserve the right to misbehave. Plus I have 35 y.o. Scotch. (And Stephen knows the one I’m talking about!)
I NEVER tell anyone to behave. Sometimes I tell them not to do anything I wouldn’t do, but that’s a broad latitude.
Jack Daniels & I are awaiting the drivel…
I’m drinking light beer. Sure it’s awful, but you can drink a lot of it. It helps me get through. Barak Hussein, my middle name is McFerrin and I can use it in public.
Anyone who is still undecided:
A) doesn’t care.
B) is an idiot.
Fox News is interviewing idiots now.
On the plus side, If Romney wins the election, he’ll be the first white man to ever beat a Kenyan in a race.
This should be framed as an underprivileged advancement movement!
Don’t tell me its that bottle of Canadian Club left over from the party, heck, even Sarah’s boys wouldn’t touch that ….
My boys — well, the older one — prefers it alcoholic.
Oh, thank God you’re back. I was afraid I might actually have to watch one of the damn debates.
You know, perhaps this time I’ll try watching the debate with a drink in hand myself. In my case, a bourbon (Evan Williams) and Coke.
Light beer. *sigh* But I have a very dry Merlot just in case.
Muscled down a decent shot of Grey Goose. Will move on to the Wathen’s next. Cheers, all.
I’ll have a beer; it’s a school night.
Thanks, Stephen, truly. Got ya on my laptop while I watch Game 7.
Nothing shows how much I think of this whole process like good old (did I mention cheap?) Mattingly & Moore. This pack of feckless cads, bounders and poltroons don’t rate the ‘good stuff’.
Catalan Cream and Baileys… I just need sweet drinks tonight
7 SIMPLE FOREIGN POLICY POINTS ROMNEY SHOULD MAKE DURING TOMORROW’S DEBATE
1 – CHINA AND TRADE:
“DECLARING CHINA A CURRENCY MANIPULATOR ON DAY 1 WILL NOT START A TRADE WAR – BECAUSE WE ARE ALREADY IN ONE, ONLY UNDER OBAMA WE ARE NOT FIGHTING BACK.
I WILL.”
2 – RUSSIA:
“RUSSIA UNDER PUTIN IS A MAJOR FOE OF THE USA AND OUR ALLIES AND OBAMA’S SO-CALLED ‘RESET’ HAS BEEN A MAJOR FAILURE. RUSSIA IS AIDING IRAN, SYRIA AND IS STILL A THREAT TO THE EMERGING DEMOCRACIES WHICH WERE FORMERLY TRAPPED IN THE USSR.
VIDEOTAPE HAS PROVEN THAT OBAMA HAS SECRETLY PROMISED PUTIN HE WILL BE MORE FLEXIBLE IF HE WINS A SECOND TERM.
I WILL NOT BE “MORE FLEXIBLE”. I WILL PUT AMERICA FIRST AND I WILL TELL RUSSIA THE SAME THINGS I TELL YOU THE AMERICAN PUBLIC.”
3 – THE MIDDLE EAST / ISRAEL AND THE PALESTINIANS:
“OBAMA’S MIDDLE EAST POLICIES HAVE TOTALLY FAILED. THERE HAVE BEEN NO PALESTINIAN-ISRAEL PEACE TALKS BECAUSE WHEN OBAMA BECAME THE FIRST AMERICAN PRESIDENT TO TAKE THE PALESTINIAN’S SIDE, HE MOTIVATED THE PALESTINIANS TO HOLD OUT FOR MORE THAN THEY EVER HAD BEFORE.
I WILL MAKE IT CLEAR TO ARABS AND ISRAELIS THAT AMERICA WILL NEVER FORCE ISRAEL TO ACCEPT ANY DEAL THAT DOESN’T ALLOW ISRAEL TO HAVE DEFENSIBLE BORDERS AND ALSO WE WILL PUSH FOR A DEAL THAT SETTLES RESTITUTION FOR REFUGEES FROM BOTH SIDES.”
4 – THE BROADER MIDDLE EAST AND THE SO-CALLED ARAB SPRING:
“OBAMA’S APPEASEMENT OF RADICAL ISLAM HAS ALLOWED IT TO GAIN IN AFGHANISTAN BY NEGOTIATING WITH THE TALIBAN, AND GAIN IN EGYPT, TUNISIA, LIBYA, LEBANON AND SYRIA.
WHAT MIGHT HAVE STARTED AS AN ARAB SPRING IS BECOMING A RADICAL ISLAMIC WINTER. UNDER AN OBAMA SECOND TERM, IT MIGHT SPREAD TO JORDAN AND SYRIA AND EVEN SOME GULF STATES.
I WILL SEND A SIGNAL TO OUR ALLIES THAT WE WILL HELP THEM EVOLVE INTO MORE DEMOCRATIC GOVERNMENTS WITHOUT FORCING THEM TO SURRENDER TO THE ISLAMIC RADICALS – AS OBAMA FORCED MUBARAK AND EGYPT.”
5 – IRAN:
“OBAMA HAS DITHERED WITH REGARD TO IRAN. HE DITHERED WHEN THE BRAVE IRANIAN PEOPLE STAGED AN UPRISING AFTER AHMADINEJAD STOLE THE LAST ELECTION, AND HE IS DITHERING AS IRAN’S NUCLEAR WEAPONS PROGRAM SPEEDS AHEAD.
AND OBAMA HAS DONE NOTHING AS IRAN HAS AIDED RADICAL ISLAMISTS STIR UP TROUBLE IN LEBANON, SYRIA, AND LIBYA.
I WILL ESTABLISH RED-LINES WITH OUR ALLIES AND MAKE IT CLEAR TO THE IRANIANS THAT THERE IS A POINT OF NO RETURN AND THESE RED LINES WILL BRING THEM TO THEIR SENSES AND LEAD THEM TO STEP BACK FROM THE BRINK, OR THEY WILL CHOOSE TO HAVE THEIR INTERVENTIONIST FOREIGN POLICY PROGRAM AND THEIR NUCLEAR PROGRAM ENDED BY EVEN MORE DIRECT INTERVENTIONS.”
6 – THE UNITED NATIONS:
“OBAMA HAS OUT-SOURCED OUR FOREIGN POLICY TO THE UN. HE CALLS IT “LEADING FROM BEHIND” AND ALL IT’S DONE IS WEAKEN OUR INFLUENCE AND EMBOLDENED OUR FOES.
I WILL MAKE SURE OUR FOREIGN POLICY OPERATES IN OUR INTEREST AND IN THE INTEREST OF OUR ALLIES AND THE FREE WORLD.”
7 – PROSPERITY AND PEACE:
“BECAUSE PEACE COMES THROUGH STRENGTH – AND NOT APPEASEMENT, I WILL RESTORE 4% GROWTH TO THE ECONOMY SO WE CAN CONTINUE TO HAVE THE MOST FORMIDABLE AND POWERFUL MILITARY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH.
OBAMA’S ECONOMIC POLICIES AND FOREIGN POLICIES HAVE MADE US WEAKER AND OUR FOES MORE BOLD. THIS HAS MADE THE WORLD A MORE DANGEROUS PLACE.
I WILL MAKE AMERICA MORE PROSPEROUS AND STRONG, AND THIS WILL MAKE THE ENTIRE WORLD MORE PROSPEROUS AND PEACEFUL.”
Another good point for him to make would be to RELAX THE CAPSLOCK KEY ALREADY.
Caps lock is not optimal. Use the super caps lock button.
actually kinda sad; he might have written something worth reading, and now many of us will never know.
Amen reliapundit! Absolutely spot on! Oh, and Barry, those folks over at the Navy are awfully fond of those big floating pieces of metal called “ships”. They have a lot less affection for big, blowhard pieces of B.S. called “politicians”, especially when they act like they know what the military needs better than the military does itself. Poor David Axelrod looked like he was going to have a heart attack tap dancing that snarky statement back on CNN.
Thank God you are back. I thought I might actually have to watch one of the damn debates,
Chris Wallace on FNC: Obama “wants to portray Romney’s European trip as a ‘National Lampoon European VAcation.” As opposed to Obama’s “Cracked” foreign policy?
What a bunch of lightweights. It’s the old sod on the rocks to help numb the pain of listening to Hussein. Yes, the poetry begins…..
A fine bourbon in a glass to help ease the pain of Obama’s lies.
Wild Turkey, and a crabby wife.
It’s going to be a long night.
Brian Williams on NBC – what a tool
Speaking of Ann Romney, the Mail (UK) has a photo of her at the beach. That is a mighty fine looking 63-year-old: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2221433/Ann-Romney-appears-swimsuit-Florida-beach-Mitt-plays-touch-football-press.html?ito=feeds-newsxml
and that’s after FIVE kids, a bout w/ cancer, and an ongoing battle w/ MS!
Canadian Classic I bet lol
Bob Schieffer does not seemed to have aged at all since First Bull Run
Vows of silence are good. We’ll see.
So, he starts hitting Obama’s name twice as hard. Good God.
Crap! Only alternative to Heineken is the massive jump to Tangerey…with…milk?
Why is a communist, Van Jones, being legitimized by CNN featuring him as a legit analyst.
I want to know what the embarrassing Canadian whiskey is.
Schieffer leads with Benghazi – good.
Libya Question. My God. Obama has turned into a bobble-head doll.
I’ll be rocking the Trader Joe’s Coastal Syrah tonight thanks to the Obama economy.
Well.
Romney is looking like “fail” on Behghazi.
No need to debate Benghazi. The Americans knows the details. Benghazi-gate will bring Obama down. That’s what Obama gets for having a crass foreign policy that favors radical Muslims.
I’m watching football. Fantasy points at stake! Need to win my league to pay for Obama’s coming tax increases.
Go, Mitt. We see what you did there …
Arab Spring … great deal of hope for change … BUT INSTEAD
Costco Vodka. Same as Goose, half the price….
What’s with the bobbing head?
Mitt starting a little slow out of the gates…stay on Benghazi
Obama pulling the care bear stare
Bobblehead chia Obama. What the heck? They put a spring up the back of his neck so he can’t look *down*???
Stephen,
I hope you enjoy your bottle of Yukon Jack as much as we enjoy this drunk blog. Go forth and conquer!
kept the american people safe…..except if you are the us ambassador in libya
Obama on the offensive, c’mon Mitt. Mitt stuttering along early….
Obama could have had US troops on the ground in Benghazi within 4 hours of the start of the attack. He did NOT do “everything he could” to “secure the area”.
My goodness.
How long did it take Obama to memorize that speech of talking points and straw men?
It’s not aimed at informed voters, but even those just showing up are going to think that Nick Cage would have delivered the lines better.
Romney is repeating the BushCo PC line – economic development, gender equality, education, lalalalalalalalala… just kill the enemy until they give up, then bring our troops home.
Fight a war. Don’t make it a social experiment.
Obama using his canned lines effectively early on.
I call Obama’s rhetoric tired and boring. Obama wins at being the loser.
Romney has a terrible strategy so far. He is not attacking Obama on Libya. He is not calling Obama out for support the MB. Obama is on attack mode and Romney is acting like he is sitting on a lead. Mitt better take him down quick and then again.
Jimmy Beam and Coke… and less Coke.. and less Coke.
MMMmmmm gooood!
News flash… The 20′s were roaring
Obama just lost it on the Russian thing. Mitt knows it. Here we go!
Romney can handle this. I was worried for a minute. Obama brought up Russia during the ME debate.
Whoah! Zing on the open mike incident!
Are we drinking every time Barry calls himself “Commander in Chief”?
Yes. And every time he doesn’t.
Obama is looking angry and playing to his base.
Romney is trying to look presidential and playing to the center.
Just as he should be, IMO.
Oops, that last one wasn’t supposed to go here. Sorry!
Obama has a little game this time. Still annoying and wrong, but gamey. Romney let Obama interrupt him.
Who has to be clear? Crack open another beer.
Excellent backhand (backbone!) on “more flexibility after the election.”. Ooooo, getting the O agitated already, he doesn’t like to be crossed!
When the President isn’t doing the Death Stare, he’s nodding his head like a bobble head on speed.
B-Ho: “Bob, uh, you’re supposed to be on my side…”
Lying liar and crap weasel. (to quote Michelle Malkin)
he said “folks.”. DRINK.
We’re gonna help Syria. But we aren’t going to do anything. But we will help them. We are going to do everything for them that I didn’t do for any of the other ME countries where my policies failed. -Obama
R needs to hit him on the apology tour
When did we start working with Israel Mr. Obama? Didn’t you just give Netty your two books on tape and say call me after the election?
Wouldn’t this be a good time for Mitt to point out that (1)we didn’t “lead” the way into Libya, the French did; and (2) Obama didn’t get Congressional authorization to get involved in Libya?
Steady, thoughtful leadership. Right, Barry.
Who looks more presidential?
Romney the adult in the room and Shieffer the grandpa
Mitt should say on Syria, ” I would not be using my Libyan ambassador to run guns through al Qaida to Syrian Jihadists. Obama is not supporting moderates in Syria, he is arming Islamic extremists to take over Syria.
Drinking Pyramid Outburst here (that’s an 8.5% folks)
Go Stephen, Go Romney!
Obama is making sure that Egypt is taking of women – that’s good news.
Gaddafi has more blood on his hands than anyone but Osama is a lie. How about Iran and the shaped charges and IEDS in Iraq and Afghanistan?
Or Saddam Hussein….
Not corrupt? Transparent?
Obama’s policy for Syria sounds like the policy he *should have had* for Libya and Egypt. We will help the opposition but we will make sure the opposition is moderate friends of America and not terrorists or “jihadists”. Why didn’t you do that for Libya or Egypt, Mr. CinC?
Romney is completely failing to distinguish himself from Obama. He thinks the MB is better than Moubarek? This is so lame!
Stephen’s right:
1) What Obama has done wrong.
2) What Romney would do differently.
Focus, Mitt. Focus.
Meanwhile, soft serve from “Bob.”
Sweet JESUS, Iam tired of listening to the choppy cadence of Barry’s thoughts. If what he believed was logical he would not have to consider every f—–g word as if it were 24 carat gold.
All Romney is doing is me-tooing Obama’s Wilsonian policies. He didn’t drop the hammer on Obama’s lie about promoting religious freedom in Egypt
How to solve the middle east/jihad/muslim problem: Go mafia on them. “Mecca is a real beautiful city…be a shame if a daisy cutter full of bacon was inadvertently spilled on your holy city.”
Anybody winning this thing yet? (I’m working— can’t watch it).
I can’t believe he gave me a pass on Benghazi! Wow thanks Mitt!
I was wondering why Romney didn’t go after Obama on Benghazi and after much thought decided that because of Candy’s intervention, its all over the news anyway and why give Obama another chance to lie about it. We all know he’ll NEVER take responsibility. Plus, even if you proved Obama’s lying, there’s so many who just don’t care (very sad to say, but I think its true).
Romney ended up looking controlled and thoughtful, Obama ended up looking petty and like he has nothing but talking points (education?).
People don’t vote on foreign policy, they vote on the economy and I think Romney wanted to keep it on the economy, which is his strong suit and to anyone with their eyes open, Obama’s achilles heel.
I’m not a pol or a terrific public speaker, but even *I* could’ve buried Obama with the Socratic method by now. Romney is not doing it. He’s just NOT doing it.
Mitt is giving this one away. He is presenting nothing that looks like the indignation so many feel at the prosecution of our foreign policy over the past four years. Sheesh!
Now I think I get it. Romney is playing it safe, he’s decided to count on those who are already going to vote for him, and playing to the idiot undecideds, who cannot handle national outrage, lies and other heavy emotions. For them, he has to be boring old Dad, dependable as hell. They need a daddy to show them the way.
Am I the only one who thinks we should tell Syria and Egypt to bite us. I’m so tired of this “worlds policeman” bs. Rodney’s tanking on this. It sounds like he thinks we should be paying as much attention to frickin Syria as we are in this country. Romney emphasized foreign aid. We should cut foreign aid to unfriendly countries. Very disappointing.
This idea of cutting of aid to Pakistan is knee-jerk reaction to what happens to be the truth. It’s also a very dangerous proposition; one supported by the Taliban. For if we were to do that, the fall of Pakistan’s government could mean a takeover by radicals. And with almost 100 nuclear missiles, we cannot afford that. We must continue to help Pakistan remain moderate. Romney is right. The U.S. must work more diligently to influence, educate and train the people of Pakistan so they can themselves defend their human rights.
Is he kidding me …..
Blah blah balh, fluffy, blah blah, manufacturing,
As much as I dislike Putin, I seriously don’t think Russia is a foe now-not as it was before. They are now just like the French, they believe in “geopolitics” and “areas of influences” so “you don’t mess in my neighborhood, I won’t in yours”. I don’t think they are again wanting a nuclear race.
Iran, on the other hand…
I think Iran should be conquered by Russia and given the Caucasus-treatment, Russia sometimes understand the extremist islam better than West.
Give the Ruskies a warm water port? No thank you. That dream goes back to Peter the Great. Keep them bottled up in the largest country in the world.
Yeah, but Iranians are in need of some colonization. I would approve some Russian medicine for them until they civilize and learn to behave.
Poland and Iran, good hits
Coo-coo land. Do you hear the words coming out of your mouth, Mr. President? America is stronger today than when I took office.” Dang, where have I been?
Have another drink – it’s Bush’s fault.
And when Obama said, again, it’s Bush’s fault, Romney mentioned the Obama disaster of the past 4 years.
Obama is outta there!
No more numbers!!!!! Full court press! Release the Hounds! Let slip the dogs of Romney and let o-man know what he’s NOT done for the past 4 years!
We can’t have a candidate popping his cork and devouring his opponent while talking about being the Commander in Chief. Romney get this – it might not make great television, but it makes for sound leadership and that is what matters tonight.
bb
We can’t have a candidate popping his cork and devouring his opponent while talking about being the Commander in Chief. Romney get this – it might not make great television, but it makes for sound leadership and that is what matters tonight.
bb
I think Mitt is doing well. It’s the visual presentation and bigger scope. Obama is comming more from a defensive stance. He is not looking that presidential.
What’s with despots doing the fist slam movement? Obama constantly bouncing his hand and watching it.
Romney called Obama a liar, but politely.
I thought this debate was on foreign policy. Teachers? Where? Tehran?
Obama interrupting again. Will he start the Biden cackle next?
What does a guy who has never passed a budget know about math?
Romney is going Mr. Rodgers-level nice on Obama, but I don’t think that’s what he needs to do. Or maybe it is. Maybe the only thing Romney needs to do is let Obama keep acting like an asshole. I don’t do polls. I just know that Romney is disappointing me right now by not smashing the lies spewing out of Obama’s mouth like a swarm of locusts.
Romney’s dad was a pusillanimous nit-wit (“Help, the US Army brainwashed me about Viet Nam!!!!!”). Mitt is not a serious man. A serious man does not send foreign aid to governments not our dependable allies. A serious man sends a cable to the leader of the country in question: “Latest demand included; atomic weapon follows.” A serious man wakes up every morning thinking — where are our enemies today, and how can I kill them?
Obama keeps talking about things he’s not done. How is this allowed? No one in the MSM could corroborate anything he’s said.
Moderators sure like to cut off Republicans.
Military spending – blah blah – medicaid. Foregn. Policy. Dumbass. Romney is disappinting me.
Truth has its own way of causing liberals pain.
Romney, get in the fight. Take the gloves off. Pummel him, now.
Obama saying strange word, “budget.” Qu’est-ce que c’est? The “boodget” that NO ONE voted for? That boodget?
Space. Really.
Obama is repeating things he said in the first debate, but maybe he is sorta awake this time.
Obama is being condescending now.
Obama sounds like a SNL parody of himself.
SNL should do a parody of CNN fact checking the SNL skits of Obama. If they actually did skits with Obama
Obama invokes the budgetary inputs from the Joint Chiefs, as if they’re pristine or something. The Joint Chiefs get their planning guidance from the SecDef, who is a political appointee. The JCS shut up and do as they’re told.
There is no role for America in the world, except to be America, the best, for the sake of herself.
You know, those Roman tribes really didn’t think “oh, when we will be strong, we’re gonna shape the world according to our civilized principles”; and not too much people really takes seriously the Manifest Destiny anymore.
However, Roma did, and as long as America is strong, all the other things are going to follow suit. If America is the first, the others will follow or stay out of the way.
Go Giants, Beat the Cardinals!!!
I know all about the Navy!
We have ships called Aircraft Carriers that carry airplanes!
We have boats that go under water called submarines!!!!
It’s elementary!
I have to say as I did for the first debate. Obama doesn’t look Presidential, he looks tyrannical, almost scarey……He is probably trying to appear strong, but he looks controlling, very controlling. Reagan was able to pursue his ideas while being likeable. Obama isn’t.
An important point that Romney ought to make is, the Middle East is a chocolate mess precisely because Obama took his hands off the steering wheel and let the car slide along the black ice. “Hope” is not a strategy. If the US remained a strong horse, a lot of this crap wouldn’t be happening.
This is bad. I am reminded of ole’ Politburo. What ARE they talking about?
“You sank my battleship!”
Obama had a good point with the number of ships as opposed to military capability. Normally, I don’t agree with Obama, but that was a good point.
This is much better, up here in the bleachers where I can’t hear the actual game(debate), only the comments of the crowd, where emotion properly reigns. Romney is obviously winning — I bet it’s all over for Biddy-bama (I couldn’t resist saying that) after this debate.
Go ta Bottle of Sake for this one
I love how Obama talks about his plans weren’t what congress wanted and yucked up “cyber security”. Can somebody please point out that the executive branch giving the finger to the legislative branch and enacting whatever it wants is not an appropriate way to govern?
Biggest whopper? Biggest Whopper?
How about “It was a video.”
Obama: “I didn’t apologize. I bowed. Hey, folks, there’s a difference. And I’m the Commander in Chief!”
Watch Obama’s expression. He’s stressed.
Romney should have said, “No. Not only did you apologize to every country for America’s exceptionalism; you bowed to almost every leader you met.”
After almost 4 wheels, to Obama’s embarrassment he still wears his training wheels.
God Bless Mitt Romney. God Bless America.
Anyone else getting “error” messages, or is it just me?
What the heck does anything he’s saying have to do with what Romney said? He totally ignored the “apology tour”
So visited Israel when he was a candidate looking for Jewish votes. Hey, when he’s president and didn’t need them . . .
Folks. DRINK.
Hmmm, it seems that the untrue newspaper reports about bilateral negotiations with Iran are unacceptable to Romney, and that’s bad…
Pockestan. Seriously can we just admit they exist because we allow them to exist?
Bin Laden, 9/11 and Twin Towers in the same sentence. Obama is reaching.
What’s with the pink bracelet that Obama is wearing? Seems very unpresidential.
Must be for breast cancer. Another play for the “women’s vote.”
Yabbut, we still need the popular vote to be overwhelming. So let’s make sure to drive that wedge between O and the NY Jewish voters too.
Barack, you are cooked! I can hardly wait to see msnbc commentary. Their fabulous gladiator… What numbskulls!
“What’s with the pink bracelet that Obama is wearing?”
His foreskin.
“It’s time to do some nation building here at home.” -Obama
Stephen: Osama as the “October Surprise”. Oh yes, it’s better here, not watching the idiot tube.
More in the “is it just me” category, but doesn’t Bob keep cutting off Romney?
Me? Or my lyin’ eyes/ears?
Obama was extremely unpresidential and acted in a manner unbecoming a president. I think Romney’s decision to be more cordial and presidential paid dividends.
Obama interrupted Romney several times only to be put down. This was comparable to the second debate when Obama started interrupting Romney and Romney walking Obama back with one hand in the air sat Obama down into his chair to shut him up.
Romney won the debate.
Just saw my first Obama version of “it’s morning in America” commercial. Apparently re-election campaigns are about the incumbent as well as the challenger. Who knew?
The pink bracelet well matches his pink, frilly panties, Tinkerkwrks.
If I hear “roads, bridges, and schools” one more time, the cat’s gonna fly across the room.
Has this thread crashed?
Tumult. Drink
I started to watch this debate and there is not enough alcohol in the world to get me thru it. Nobama is lying and Mitt isnt really calling him on it. I am so grateful for this site.
Gads: Is Romney trying to throw the Presidency away? I can’t believe how many obvious shots at Obama’s lies he’s had, and failed to capitalize on.…
OBot is trying sooooo hard to pronounce Pakistan like a real person, but he can’t. quite. do it.
This nation = ME – Barack Obama
This debate is making me sick to my stomach. Romney is NOT attacking Obama on the specific issues in Bengazi that he KNEW or SHOULD HAVE KNOWN at the time of the attack, and the fact that HE did not allow help to his ambassador.
He is also CLAIMING that we have made the Middle East better – and they hate us EVEN MORE than they did before. What is WRONG with Romney? I am so mad, so sick to my stomach, tht the American people not watching Fox News have NO IDEA how much those nations HATE US – despite Obama. Al Queda is STRONGER than it ever was.
Bob hops in, and doesn’t let Romney speak.
LIES LIES LIES
If you’re going to paginate, make it newest first. This sucks.
ditto
Er…13 minutes to go and no mention of Benghazi yet? You must be kidding me…
I have _no idea_ why Romney was given advice not to go after this punk. WHY NOT?????? Arrrgggghhhhhh.. This performance might cause him an election. Sorry. Dead honest truth. I turned it off. Can’t watch it. Whoever gave this advice should be immediately FIRED. I was hoping for the kill. With 2 weeks to go we’re now facing a close election, when we should of looked at an _overwhelming win_.
Dissapointed.
Couldn’t bring myself to watch the final debate with the Bears on MNF. Thanks y’all for taking one for the team.
10:35 EST – site has failed
As Biden would say: “Three Words” – Bigger servers.
I am drinking a Scotch Mist cocktail; made with Jameson’s in shaker with ice in champagne flute with twist lemon.
I am so nervous, Mitt alternates between stammering and forceful. Tape says Obambi is winning. No, no, time to drink!
They’re both doing pretty well. But they guy who is doing the best job is Bob Schieffer.
I like research yes I do I like research how about you?!
I think that Romney has gotten a few more minutes than O tonight.
Obama is really good at restating his opponent’s position. I hope Romney calls him on it.
I hear Obama talking. Is he saying anything?
Commander in Chief – DRINK!
Roads. Bridges. Vets. Teachers.
Hey, wait, what, where are the unions???
Roads and bridges? Wasn’t that part of the stimulus that didn’t happen? Obama is shooting blanks.
What it boils down to is Romney is on a roll. He literally creamed Obama when Obama was talking about Bush’s failed policies, Romney mentioned Obama’s failed policies of the last 4 years. Way to go, Romney!
Romney won the debate!
Romney: bless him, NOT aggressive enough by a long shot.
Along with his analyses, he needs to give short, sharp zingers, e. g., “The president bowed to the Saudi king”; “Why did you tell Medvedev to tell Putin that you’d be more flexible?”; “You have been president for four years. Why haven’t you done what you say needs to be done?” The last should have been repeated over and over.
The “debate” formats are ludicrous: they give the weakest link–Zer0–equal or more time to spout utter garbage. He should be stopped in his tracks: the format doesn’t allow this.
Fie on these stupid “debate” set-ups!
(I’ve been trying to get this through for the last 10 minutes: no luck. Let’s see if this works!)
Obama’s socialism shows in his closing statements. Romney spilled facts. Obama blab blab blab. Too bad Obama isn’t as positive asRomney. Jobs!
Awright, it didn’t change *moi’s* vote, but you knew that already. And on the foreign policy front, anything that doesn’t end with ‘islamism was turned into radioactive glass today’ isn’t going to cut it, but I’m patient.
Trust me on this, but islam is going to have to become an extinct ideology. It’s them, or everyone else on the planet. I BS you not.
This site is stressed and NOT working efficiently at all.
I flipped back and forth between the Lions/Bears game, the Giants/Cards game and the business Owner/Jug eared F***. The very small amount of comments generated tonight says that very few people watched the whole thing and just checked in like me. The Donkey currently in charge did not seem to do anything to make himself seem better than Mitt.
Final statements. Obama was strong and mostly clear, not particularly honest, but he paced it well and made his points. Only occasionally overly condescending. Romney was a bit nervous, and only really made his points on the economy. Wasn’t really prepared on defense and really needed to challenge that “two trillion the military didn’t ask for”. Couple of good moments, esp. on Poland and Israel.
On the whole, pretty much a tie, but maybe Obama on points, for appearing more Presidential- yes, I know that’s hard for the challenger in a foreign policy debate. I don’t think Romney did what he had to do to maintain momentum, and Obama reassured his base. Would have liked a clear victory for Romney. If graded on honesty, he won, but needed to do better tonight.
Am I correct? Romney moved to shake hands with Obama first at the end of the debate. But Obama moved around the table and shook hands with the moderator first. What a jerk.
At the end, Obama and Michelle left the stage … rather quickly it seemed. What’s up with that?
as has been rather widely reported just recently, Obama is simply not much of a ‘Schmoozer,’ which is really strage for a pol.
Once again, Obama had the knives out and went for the nasty kill lines.
Romney didn’t.
I wanted Romney to win, but Obama won, because he stuck the knives in. Romney just wouldn’t stick the knives in.
Yeah.
All Romney had to do was sit on stage and look equal, and he’d win.
He did that.
Lots and lots of folks who thought he was some alien from the spawn of Utah now know he may have better ideas than the bowing fool.
I can’t wait to see the polls.
reliapundumbass is obviously a frustrated COBOL programmer. Forgive him. He knows not what he does.
Obama the political operative bravely trying to carry Obama the failed president. It’s almost schizophrenic to hear how good he’s been vs. know how bad he’s been. We “led” in Libya? Really? Didn’t Sarko have to drag us in? Everything goes down the memory hole in service of the big lie, uh, narrative. The talk-talk and eye-stare are all about one thing: Kool Aid. Do you believe me or believe your lying eyes? Look into my eyes, listen to my presidential voice, don’t look into what I’ve actually done. Incredible piece of work. If we don’t vote him out we’ll deserve what happens to us.
PBS has spoken: Romney didn’t make his case.
What say you, non-PBSers?
eliminbate all funding for PBS . . .
I was concerned, at first, what with Mitt’s slow start. In hindsight, I think he was taking Obama’s measure, before going after him. I was disappointed that Fast and Furious didn’t come up (international arms smuggling and murder), and was surprised that Bob Schieffer let Romney turn part of the debate to his strength, the economy (which Obama seemed happy to oblige by arguing, rather than turning the topic back on course).
The closing statements were all that was necessary: Obama was class warfare, Romney was optimism and promise. Win Romney. =^[.]^=
Thanks Stephen, and thanks Stephen’s liver. He couldn’t have done it without you.
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If you need any further evidence that the best days of American Empire are behind us you need look no further than this …
”I’m drinking Diet Coke … it’s a school night”
America has never been an Empire and had no emperors, you toad from hell.
Hi Kids! I tried to reach PJM repeatedly for tonight’s big event, but no luck. I hope y’all had fun here. I just watched the thing on C-Span, and chimed in here and there on Hot Air along with the throngs. I think Romney started out scarily slow, but ended up kicking A at the end. A lady on C-Span has just informed us that Obama “just need more time” (sic), but I think it’s all over. Obama’s record is his albatross.
Hello? [tap tap} Hello? Does anybody know what happened to PJM???
I watched the last 45 min, and inspite of Pres Obama best efforts, he won the first 40. But the last question and the closing statement, listening to the presidents standard talking points for the 1000th time sounded so hollow, so unconvinced and unconvincing, I might have given Carter another shot instead. Romney at the end convinced me that he can’t be worse and could be better. That is all he needed to do.
Krauthammer just made the point that Romney remained ‘large’ and ‘big’.
Obama went small and peevish.
Yup.
Okay, I spent this debate fighting with a litter box (no, you don’t want to know) — so, about like Romney, right?
Now — who the heck won. Ace says Romney but I’m not sure… The glimpses I caught were not reassuring.
went in thinking this was going to be a debate, largely dictated by libya.
yet, the overarching event actually turned out to be the gallup poll that has romney way ahead.
both candidates demonstrated that their campaigns believe the numbers to be true.
I was geared up for romney to be the challenger, and obama the incumbent…
halfway through, it was clear that roles were reversed. it was at that point, knowing that romney wasn’t going to give anything away, that I realized he will be our next president.
congratulations, mitt.
maobama needed a grand slam tonight….I didn’t see it
Great summary! I was disappointed as I felt Romney missed multiple opportunities to showcase Obama’s massive foreign policy failures. Romney put almost no daylight between himself and Obama.
But once the debate ended, I had the realization that Romney played a great game of chess. By simply saying he would have implemented Obama’s policies better than Obama did, he denied the Obama camp the one thing they really, really wanted – a sound-bite that they could seize upon and harp on endlessly 24/7. It will be tough criticize Romney without criticizing Obama.
Then, Romney went on to bring the debate back to the economy.
Romney did what he needed to do: look presidential and not give the Obama team a tempest for their teapot. That’s a win for Romney.
Well done, Romney. Well done. As you knew, my vote was already in the bag.
You’re right that Obama is not going to persuade any of us to vote for him.
But your assessment that “It will be tough to criticize Romney without criticizing Obama” is very disturbing.
I think I know where you’re coming from. But I also think a clear line should be drawn. Romney didn’t do that.
Romney just needs to win. The bottom line is that you and I know he can’t be worse than Obama, so we will vote for him. My realization was that he didn’t need to draw a clear line in this debate. He just needed to be sure that he didn’t give the left an albatross to hang around his neck. He succeeded.
Forget the polls and forget the debates. Tomorrow morning when you wake up, here’s what is going to influence our vote:
-High gas prices; TWICE the price since Obama took office.
-Bad economic environment. No real help for small or medium businesses.
-Attacks on religion under the guise of equality of contraception to poor; frustrating the Catholics.
-Expounding Gay Rights and same-sex-marriages. Millions of black voters and black priests are upset and will not vote for Obama on moral grounds.
-Obama is regulating coal companies to stall them.
-Obama is blocking off-shore drilling; exposing America to the price gouging of OPEC; sending billions of dollars to the Arabs instead of encouraging oil independence.
-Favoring “Green” when “Green” is failing like heck.
-Obama turned down Canadian pipeline — a policy that favors Arabs and not Americans.
-No cogent Middle East policy.
-Showed Netanyahu serious disrespect during the Prime Minister’s state visit to Washington.
-Fed defining Obama’s bad economy policy with QE3 (that’s 3, as in three strikes you’re out!)
-Low housing starts.
-Unemployment essentially still high with jobs at part-time, people underemployed. Many no longer looking.
-Health costs rising and to rise even more with taxes from Obamacare.
-Illegal attempt to affect gun control as with “Fast and Furious” scandal.
-Low car sales.
-Foreclosures still happening; only now staggered by banks to avoid retaliation.
-High food prices and product shrinkage.
-National deficit higher than any time.
-Wild unsubstantiated spending; encumbering our posterity.
-Uncontrolled border with Mexico and pandering to ILLEGALS; that’s illegal Obama.
-Obama’s withholding legal records requested by Congress in the “Fast and Furious” investigation.
-No transparency with the American public, which Obama promised.
I ask, would any teleprompter change any of this Obama disaster? The question is NOT rhetorical. The answer is NO.
Elect Romney/Ryan. God Bless Romney. God Bless America.
Good list. Hope you are correct that enough people will notice.
History books may very well label the past 4 years as “The Obama disaster”.
heh heh heh . . . history books will call this ‘Carter’s second term.’
I only lasted a little more than half.an hour. Obama’s persistent.attempts.to interrupt with empty talking points while mitt was giving his rebuttle was really, really sad. Mitt did exactly the right thing and talked over him without changing his tone, just the volume. He made Obama look like a real jackass there. He even let Obama have some of his time in.the end.
I.think mitt let a lot of things slide and it was smart to. Obama was hard.to believe and getting into some things would have just created an obnoxious whiney tit for tat fit of.interruptions. Nothing needed to.be said.on these things, and avoiding them helped him to maintain presidential appearance (though the numerous digressions domestic issues was.very poor form).
A seal walks into a bar. Barkeep, having seen it all, asks “what’ll you have?”
The seal replies, “Anything but a Canadian Club”. *rimshot*
Reminds me of that later Gingrich debate strategy, right before he seized the nomination.
This new groupie-fan will miss the drunkblogged debates – I hope you will be drunkblogging the election. And President Romney’s inauguration!
BTW – being Canadian, but not a big whiskey drinker, I’m curious to know the unnamed whiskey choice tonight…
Welcome to a Canuck neighbor (I grew up in Seattle).
My guess is MacNaughton, and Stephen doesn’t want to admit he likes Rye.
Romney won big for two simple reasons, which is why the deluded hosts on MSNBC seem so pissed even as they declare an obviously hollow victory:
1. The economy kept coming up. The strange thing was that it was Obama that kept bringing it up, like a poor lawyer that keeps pitching slow balls in the hope that his opponent will eventually stop slamming them out of the park. At least the middle third of the debate consisted of economic questions dressed up in “national security/prestige” drag. His answer on China was simply outstanding (and refreshingly creative).
2. Romney really pulled a Romney on poor old Obama by sidling right up to his position, who desperately wanted to paint Romney as W 2.0, -but Romney never took the bait, and presented very little for Obama to lash out at.
3. Romney was able conduct a stealthy attack that must have felt like a bayonet in the gut to Obama: The “I’m a reasonable, bipartisan guy who can actually work with the other side” The president was his usual bitter and pedantic self, showing by example how badly he failed in this regard. Thrust, twist, withdraw! Then again in the closing remarks. Thrust, twist, withdraw.
Alrighty! So, um, I don’t think I’ll bother trying to “join” PJM on Election Night. I mean, if they can’t handle the traffic of a presidential debate? … But it’s been great. Good night, Stephen, great Drunk Blog, I have no doubt. It was a good night. I thought. Obama came off looking like, and sounding like, an arrogant, over-coached spaz. I loved the way he kept calling out “Bob” for relief — just as he did with Martha and Candy Store. It was a good debate, as they go nowadays. And at least Bob refrained from throwing any flags against Obama’s opponent. Kudos! Luckily for Bob and Barack, (F & F) Mexico did not come up in the debate tonight. I guess “foreign policy” has nothing to do with our own hemisphere.
My prognosis: Obama will go down another click in the polls. America is sick of looking at/listening to him.
Sorry to miss the event live, but even a post event read is fun.
Guess the meme of mocking Obama’s ‘Death Stare’ was kind of obvious, but *Gosh!*; it’s just such a perfect metaphor.
Gonna have to see how the clowns at MSNBC enjoyed that performance . . .
Thanks Stephen, and to fellow commenters.
Too bad the last debate had to be on Foreign Policy. Our country is headed toward Greece at Mach III and I should care what some uneducated camel jockey thinks of the US (which they’ll hate to eternity)? But enough about Obama.
Today, we drone, tomorrow, we’ll hydrogen atom. That’s the foreign policy reality if things don’t change in Islam-o-ville. The question is: will irradiated fuel from Iranian oil damage the seals on my FlexFuel hybrid?
Mitt wasn’t on cruise-control, he was on don’t-gaffe-and-hand-this-guy-a-win in the final debate. The debate is really between capitalism and communism and the communist was given a forum to pretend he cares about America, whatever, and what not.
Fortunately for Mitt, America votes it’s pocketbook. “It’s the economy, stupid.” was James Carville’s contribution to the political discourse that’ll resonate big-time this November. Thank you James and snake-heads everywhere. This nightmare and this clown are going down. To Chinatown.
“Romney nicely driving a wedge between Obama and Jewish voters. But Florida is already won.”
Those lines are probably aimed at PA and OH. And possibly WI and MI as well. A few tens of thousands of voters could tip those balances very easily.
Well, it is easy to put myself in the place of a dissident in Iran or Venezuela. The conclusion – with Obama in the White House, the conclusion is: With friends like this, who needs enemies?
As for allies outside the US, a differentiation needs to be made. The US that Obama champions is not the friend of allies like Canada and the UK.
#StopNDAA – What Obama and Romney didn’t touch on during the debate Get short Published: 23 October, 2012
http://rt.com/usa/news/stopndaa-obama-romney-debate-057/
You see, this is what is completely wrong about the direction America (and the world) is headed in. Fewer and fewer youngsters know how to phrase an intelligible thought, concern, position, or whatever. This is what ObamaLearnin’ is all about: “We don’t need no education. We don’t need no thought control. Just leave us make our own curriculum. Hey, teachers, leave us kids alone. All in all we’re just another NSA brick in the wall …”