Drunkblogging the Second 2012 Presidential Debate
5:40PM I’m checking in a few minutes earlier than promised because, yes, I am still The Hardest Working Man in the Blogosphere™.
Here’s the CW: If Obama loses, he’s toast. If Obama wins, he’s back in the game. If Obama is as lousy as he was two weeks ago in Denver, it will be spun as the most epic turnaround since the Titanic did a 180 and returned safely to Southampton — and nearly as believable.
5:42PM I’m watching on C-SPAN, where you get to hear the announcements being made in the hall, instead of whatever the network talking heads want to yammer on about. I’ll pass those along as I catch them.
5:45PM Announcer: “The part of Barack Obama will be played tonight by his understudy, Felix Baumgartner.”
That should be an improvement.
5:49PM It’s entirely possible that the faculty of Hosftra is less interesting than the on-air talent [cough] at MSNBC.
Mind you, I didn’t say “probable.”
5:52PM The First Ladies both wore pink — fuchsia ? — and both look great.
5:53PM I can’t watch PBS or C-SPAN without hearing the late, great Phil Hartman announce, “This program was made possible by a generous grant from the CHUBB corporation.”
5:55PM There’s Candy Crowley. She doesn’t play by the rules. She’s an out-of-control journalist with a hot temper and a furious case of bad judgement. She’s…
…The Moderator.
THIS FILM HAS NOT YET BEEN RATED
5:56PM I don’t know if you caught this on PJMedia yet, but just a couple days ago I parachuted from the edge of space. True story.
5:56PM Whew. Here we go. Time to top off — as if this blog hasn’t been surreal enough already.
5:58PM There’s a guy in the audience who looks like a 19-year-old Jonah Goldberg with a fake handlebar mustache stapled onto his lip.
6:02PM “I hope to get to as many questions as possible,” except when I feel the need to redirect in complete disregard of the established rules — because I am…
…The Moderator!
6:03PM Proposal for final debate: Two leather club chairs and a bottle of single malt scotch. During the last 15 minutes, a small podium will rise from the center of the stage presenting a .44 with a single bullet.
6:04PM Thing I like best about Mitt? First GOP candidate since Reagan who doesn’t come on these things with a permanent deer in the headlights look.
6:05PM Mitt has a plan if you’re a college kid with debt and no job!
He segued right into that from a nice intro, followed by his empathy for the student’s problem, and then, Mitt has a plan if you’re a college kid with debt and no job!
6:06PM Classy. Mitt said “the middle class has been crushed the last four years,” but didn’t dig it in that Biden said that first.
6:06PM Obama… hang on… not sure my first read was right…
6:07PM WHOA! Do you want to talk to a college kid about manufacturing jobs in Detroit? Tell him about the professional work he’ll get if you’re reelected.
6:07PM My initial take might prove right, after all: He’s over programmed, to overcompensate for last week.
6:08PM Um… Mr. President? War spending has dropped considerably. Where did the money go?
6:08PM And Crowley redirects to Romney, because she’s…
…The MODERATOR!
Say it out loud with me.
6:10PM Finally, somebody called Obama on this “GM didn’t go bankrupt BS” he’s been peddling for months.
6:11PM Obama: Romney has a one-point plan: Give everything to the RICH, the RICH I tell you.
This is a better performance than last week — so I take back my initial reaction. It’s too soon to tell if it’s good enough.
6:11PM So, 11 minutes in, one question. Because Candy Crowley is…
…The MODERATOR!
6:12PM Obama is now peddling his “I increased energy production” line, in every place where he wasn’t able to squash the private sector off of private lands.
6:13PM Whoa. 13 minutes in and 86 comments already? Say a little prayer for our servers, OK?
PS, I love you all.
6:14PM You can see Mitt straining at the leash, ready to go after the green energy BS.
6:14PM Here it comes…
6:14PM “Oil production is DOWN 14% on federal lands, natural gas down 9% … ”
6:16PM Mitt’s using numbers again. Such an uncouth way to debate.
6:16PM “How we said no to that pipeline [Keystone XL] I will never know.”
6:17PM Aaaaand Candy nicely deflected from Romney’s rebuttal when turning it back over to Obama. Because she’s…
The MODERATOR!
6:18PM I heard a bit of Hannity today, and he had a great minute on how Mitt could deflect the flip-flopper charge, which Obama just made on coal. Let’s see if Mitt’s ready for it.
6:18PM Mitt: “But that’s not what you’ve done in the last four years, and that’s the problem.”
6:19PM They’re really getting into it over oil permits. Obama refuses to give a straight answer.
6:20PM Mitt keeps using numbers, Obama keeps saying, “That’s not true.”
Who sounds more like he knows what he’s talking about?
So far, the worst news for Mitt is, Obama is more engaged. The good news is, Obama is verging on playing the part of Biden’s Mini Me.
6:21PM Obama: The strong economy is why gas is up to $4.
I wanted to laugh. I’m probably going to cry.
6:23PM Obama: We have enough pipeline already, you conservative Luddite.
I’m paraphrasing slightly.
But he did, sneeringly, say that “we’ve built enough pipeline to circle the earth,” as though that meant something. Circle the earth with pipe like Superman turning back time to save Lois, if that’s what it takes.
6:25PM Mitt just repeated Biden’s line about the middle class being buried the last four years. I don’t know how many people in the audience will notice, but talking heads will surely notice the shiv.
6:27PM I’m drooling at that no cap gains for middle class income investments. I think I’ve decided not to vote for Obama after all.
6:28PM Finally, we’re hearing details on Mitt’s tax plan. I like them.
Obama’s presentation is… Bush and Clinton screwed you. He’s also bragging about cutting middle class taxes — by which he means payroll taxes, by which he means he’s accelerating the bankruptcy of SS and Medicare for the very middle class he claims to be helping.
6:30PM “I fundamentally disagree with that.”
Fill out O-73 on your Bingo cards.
6:32PM “We don’t have to live like this.”
It’s a good line. Mitt tends to swallow his good lines, even at his best, which might be his biggest weakness as a speaker.
6:34PM Ah — “He only has to pay 14%.”
The class warfare has gotten so old, it feels like I do the morning after a drunkblog. The question is, does it have any magic left?
6:35PM Is Candy Damn Crowley going to let Romney have the last word on anything?
No.
Because she’s…
…The MODERATOR!
6:37PM MItt just gets rolling on correcting Obama’s version of MItt’s tax plan… and Crowley interrupted to turn it over to a questioner.
Oh, a questioner. Remember them?
6:38PM Re: My last post, How conveeeeeeeeeeenient.
6:39PM Girl audience member: Who’s gonna do the most for girls with lady parts in the workplace?
Obama: ME! SINGLE MOM ME! And I had a smart grandmother, so I understand women, dig women.
I bet this line worked like magic in college, too.
6:41PM “Whole binders full of women.” Maybe not Mitt’s best line of the night. It’s a little too reminiscent of Jame Gumb.
“It puts the lotion in the binder.”
6:44PM HAH! The gaul, the gumption, the chutzpah — of Obama claiming Romney wants to give Washington power over health care decisions. Did he not read his own “Patient” “Protection” And “Affordable” “Care” “Act”?
Oh. Wait. Stupid question.
Nevermind.
6:45PM Free rubbers are certain to liberate your daughters, Mr. President. They’ll save a few bucks a week in a few years, hopefully after they’re married.
FORWARD!
6:46PM Next Totally Non-Plant Question: You’re George Bush, aren’t you?
6:48PM “Our party has been focused on big business for too long.”
Finally, I think I found a reason to actually like and respect Romney. That’s so true, and so nice to hear.
6:49PM Well, first of all…” is one of Obama’s tells. It almost always precedes “this mess we inherited” and a laundry lists of complains about, well, everything.
6:50PM Mitt needs to ask, “Are you aware, Mr. President, that I haven’t been at Bain Capital for 11 years and that I’m not George Bush?”
6:57PM Oh, please. This next question sounds hard, but it comes down to, “Tell me, Barack, about what wonderful things you’ve done the last four years.” It’s an invitation for Obama to talk about Obama, which is the one thing he really is better at than anybody in the whole world.
PLANT!
DRINK!
Anyway, now Mitt is replying, and even after Denver, it still shocks me how well he does empathy. I take back all the robot jokes I made from 2008 – September 2012.
(Sorry for the delay. Server issues or some such.)
7:05 PM: We’re now in the Policy Wonk portion of the debate, and in the last half-hour to boot, so it’s safe to say a good portion of the audience has changed channels or just tuned out. It’s a good thing, too, because it’s just More of the Same from both of them, and 90 minutes of that is a little much even for professional drunks like myself.
7:06 PM ”I haven’t looked at my pension, it’s not as big as yours.” What a tiny man.
7:07 PM We’re spending an awful lot of time on an issue that isn’t much of a concern these days for anyone but the residents of a few border states, whose votes are long locked in.
7:12 PM ”You don’t turn national security into a political issue,” says the man who took more victory laps of Bin Laden than Bruce Jenner did in the ’76 Summer Olympics.
7: 15 PM Thank you, Mitt, for finally pulling the trigger on the Las Vegas trip.
7:16 PM ”I’m always responsible,” says the man who won’t release his Vegas party list from the day after the Benghazi attack by al Qaeda.
7: 17 PM Since when does the moderator correct one of the debaters?
7:19 PM Dang. Deftly played — Benghazi should have been Mitt’s best moment of the night. Instead, it turned into a something like a fumble. People unfamiliar with the ins and outs will think the White House did a great job.
So, I have to give Mitt a big demerit on that one. And my hat’s off to Candy Crowley for turning things around for Obama with a perfectly-timed and rule-breaking interruption.
Because Candy Crowley is…
…The MODERATOR!
7: 22 PM Hey, Mitt — hit him with Chicago.
I mean, hit him the Chicago Way.
No, I mean with Chicago. Rahm’s Chicago.
7: 28 PM Final thoughts.
If you missed the first debate, you’ll wonder what all the fuss was about watching tonight’s debate. If you watched the first one, it’s a new Obama and the same Romney.
Romney didn’t need to step up his game. Obama did — and he did. OK, he did it with a nice assist from Candy Crowley — The MODERATOR! — but mostly it was Obama getting back into form.
So did Obama blunt Romney’s surge?
My first thought is: No.
Before the Denver debate, people had been looking for permission, for lack of a better word, to vote for the new guy. Because they knew the old guy, and they’d settle for him if they had to, but they weren’t really looking forward to FORE MOAR YEERZ. And Romney stepped up gave them that permission.
Obama’s job was tougher: To win back people he lost in Denver. He might have gotten some of them back. And it’s for sure he energized the base tonight.
But when someone is looking for a reason to leave, finally finds that reason — how do you win them back?
I don’t know. And I’m not sure Obama knows, either.
Did you start drinking already? I believe the debate is tomorrow…
Looks like we’re all screwed then. Well, not like I never went on a bender before.
Watching the debate now…all the way from Israel. It is 3:30 am here, but no matter.
The Radical-in-Chief is repeating his same tired lies, and Romney is calling him out on them. The mannish looking Crowley is allowing The One to prattle on, and completely cutting off Romney at every turn.
It is hard to believe that the public will buy the same jive talk from the POTUS. After all – http://adinakutnicki.com/2012/10/13/the-liar-in-chief-his-many-tall-tells-end-game-purposefully-tearing-the-u-s-from-its-constitutional-roots-commentary-by-adina-kutnicki/
Sadly, this time is opposite for me. Plenty of booze available, but unable to watch the debate as I’m working the bar tonight and will be refreshing the commentary every chance I get
do they serve kool-aid here?
No, but come November a bunch of lefties will be served hearty helpings of crow.
What’s with all the backslashes I’m seeing?
O.K., got my beer let the pummeling begin.
Beer drinking has commenced. Sorry. I can’t do the hard stuff without turning into a total asshole.
I am told that Biden can do that totally sober… Mr Ears likewise.
i’ve got my drink, a huge slice of pumpkin pie, c-span on the tube and stephen green on the internet tubes…does life get any better than this ?
Oh, Jesus, I hope so.
I second that brother.
Oh, just wait . . . heeeere’s Candy!
Charlie:
You made me laugh. Thanks
Bring it on……
Tonite, I will be joined by a nearly-full bottle of Tres Generaciones Anejo Tequila.
Smoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooootttttttthhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
Niiiiiiice. Color me jealous.
Ditto.
(cheap) bourbon n branch. A nubile young thang came sashaying to my table coupla weeks ago. Turned out she was the barkeep and wanted to know what a ‘bourbon and ranch’ was. Not quite as bad as the time a young waitress got seriously cornfused by the wife-unit’s request for hot tea. She went to go ask the manager and came back twirling a teabag with a cup of hot water, thoroughly pleased with herself (don’t get many request for (not)iced tea in SW okieland. Didn’t point out the lack of a pot and a tea cozy, small steps…
Hi Stephen,
Hope your sick child is feeling better, and family enjoyed the take out chicken dinner.
What are you drinking for the debate?
Howdy fellow Surberite! [hat tip]
Good to see you here CAPT!
Howdy AF_Vet, and hope you are doing well!
Hope we’re all able to enjoy the debate, or at the very least appreciate our new community of friends as we mock POTUS.
You know Port Wine is considered a wonderful remedy for colds and flu. Maybe that’s just my family, but it seems to work.
er… Not for the kids, now. This is not Portugal! (Or Sparta.)
Hot toddy: Bourbon, lemon, honey and hot water. Butter optional. Recommended by a college professor (French) when the entire class was one sticky, writhing, coughing, contaminated mess of humanity. It works. It’s tasty. (Did I mention it’s tasty?) Of course, today, she’d be fired.
Yes, one of my favorite beverages when I’m feeling poorly. Or when the weather’s inclement. Or when I’m feeling fine but the weather might become inclement within the next six months or so.
Best thing is, after a few, you don’t care if you actually feel better or not.
Herbal tea, (I go with cinnamon) honey and a healthy dose of brandy (go cheap here.)
OK… what is Gin, Tonic Water and Rose’s Sweetened Lime Juice. Is that a Gimlet?
Regardless, I’ locked and loaded. TV is off. YOU will be my conduit to the real world.
Be afraid.
Umm, I believe gin, tonic, and lime juice is called “gin and tonic”. (I consume them several times a week)
See. I knew there was a technical name for it!
A gimlet is gin and lime juice. Another fine drink.
That’s also the name of a woodworking tool, which is alternatively called a “screw starter”.
Which may or may not be a coincidence
If you have a shaker and the ingredients, go for a Ramos Gin Fizz. Which is, notwithstanding Bloody Marys, Screwdrivers, Sunrises, or Mimosas, my all time favorite brunch beverage.
Sounds very ‘gimlet-y’ to me.
Corn’s popping… =^[.]^=
Well, that Janet Brown is certainly “interesting”….
“The part of Barack Obama will be played tonight by his understudy, Felix Baumgartner.”
We’ll need an Austrian translator then I suppose.
-Roket
I see what you did there…
Have a drink on me. I think there’s some cheap rum around here someplace and blackberry Monin syrup. But being the entrepreneurial woman I am, I’ll be working while listening, and checking in if your servers hold.
Saying a prayer for Romney.
…Doing some mental cheerleading.
Sam Adams Oktoberfest special here.
I enjoy these drunkblogs more than the debate itself.
Damn skippy! The only way I can handle these debates. Cheers!
Gin’n'tonic is go!
vodka tonic here. Have to flip between this and sadly watch Yankees futility.
Yes. A little prayer is in order.
Pray my Gin lasts 90 minutes.
Seriously… some good vibrations towards Romney could do no harm.
I’ll try it.
Man, I forgot to put beer in the frig, so I am drinking home brewed mead. Instead of home brewed Guinness. Oh, the sacrifices I make.
Wow several comments and the debate has not even started, oh well just drinking a few beers and trying to stay awake till I get back to work tomorrow at 6:30 a.m.
Fixed the keyboard that the cat managed to screw up. The beer tonight is Lagunitas Little Sumpin’ and if I can still stand after that Racer 5 IPA
A technical note, folks — Chrome’s cacheing is very stubborn. If you aren’t seeing updates when you refresh, try another browser.
Thanks for the tip. Been wonderin…
Like, say, Safari? [runs away]
Feh, Firefox was Good Enough® for Washington, and Pournelle, it’s Good Enough® for moi.
You know, I don’t use Safari much because I can’t use a Mac at work. I’ll give it a try.
Looks like Safari is doing fine.
Watching on C-SPAN, wondering how long it’ll be before I have to turn it off. I cannot stand Obama and every time he speaks I just want to throw things…
…or throw up.
Sweet Jesus. She’s got the body of a line-backer.
No, she does not! Those guys are rock solid.
She’s closer to a Beluga Whale
Oh my. Is that why they are all afraid of her?
Yes, but it’s locked away in a steamer trunk and won’t be found for YEARS.
She accidentally crushed him.
She’s got that beat down ex-porn starlet look going for her.
obama sat first.
MITT WINS!
OMG, I’ve just seen Candy Crowley: she looks like a puppet from Spitting Image–a really BIG puppet!
LMAO
That hand that works that puppet is definitely workin’ overtime.
felix baumgartner? felix UNGWER would be an improvement…
I work at UC Berkeley. Been drivin’ around town with my Romney-Ryan sticker and have been get lots of shout-outs from the kids. The Obama Zombies have woken up.
Awesome! Thank heavens eyes are opening to the Communist Manifesto crap sammich!
I know Berkeley, and that observation is AWESOME! Thanks.
Dang I can’t drink but I can’t stand to listen or watch Obama and the Main Stream Miseries sober. I’m depending on you guys to take the bullet.
We will take a baker’s dozen for the team.
*burp*
Romney, keep standing. There’s no need to sit down while the other guy talks. He should stand the whole time like a fighter in the ring. lol
Playing two poker tournaments and the blog: I know S. Green has the nerves of steel to watch this and keep me informed. I can tolerate donkeys in poker but don’t know if I can stand to hear any more of them braying.
Or Felix the Cat.
Yeah kid. The assembly line is your future.
Romney needed to provide the “how” when he answered the first question about jobs
OMG, here comes energy. WTF does that specifically have to do with education? What am I missing?
Roads = schools = bridges = future = what?!
Yeah, how have those solar investments worked out?
Sooolaaaaaar. It’s a magic (but meaningless) incantation.
Listening to Obama is like watching a trailer for a movie you know is going to be bad.
soundbitesoundbitesoundbiteplatitudesoundbitegaspsoundbite….
“Mr. Romley…?”
“…beginning with Mr. Romley…” ?!
Candy is a very handsome woman.
… for a klingon.
a *BIG* Klingon!
Are you all implying she’s not a Klingon? Are you sure? How can you tell?
There’s something about a woman with a lumpy forehead…
that’s an insult to those two voluptuous klingon captains (dont know their names)
The Duras sisters. Although it was Star Trek III: The Search for Spock that demonstrated unequivocally that Klingons are mammalian.
Pakled
C’mon, fess up. That candid observation was after how many beer/hard stuff?
Go Romney- start giving the facts and start being clear like the last debate
blah blah, Jeremy, what the hell is your major? That determines whether you get a job or not!
what is Romney’s 5 Point Plan: Tell them, Romney. Please.
Obama is lying saying that Romney is lying.
Do we get a punch-out now?
Obama: I don’t care what you have a degree in; build roads! Bridges! Schools!
Doesn’t Obama sound like Michelle has him by the ball at this very moment — and she’s tightening down….
“By the ball”
Bwahahahahahahahahahaha
Oh shit. I’m laughing so hard at the singular testicular comment! *swipes tears*
And I did it on purpose. It wasn’t a typo at all.
Honest.
I know. That’s what made it so funny. If you’d made a typo I wouldn’t have said anything but I could tell where you were going with your hilarious quip. hehe
Yep… we’ll take all the money we spend on Defense and give it to college professors. Last time I checked, those professors weren’t burning down safe houses and killing ambassadors, blowing themselves up with homicide vests, cutting throats.
OMG. Class WARFARE!!!!!
I’m waiting for Mrs. Utah with the popcorn. This is going to be epic. Tragic. But epic.
Why is it that I can’t follow our President when he gives explanations
Because you’re smart and logical. And he isn’t.
Sooo . . . 10 min in and Obama is already telling Mitt what Mitt’s policies really are (convenient straw men), to make it easier for Obama to simply recite stump talking points.
And Candy is telling Mitt to shut up and take it.
Romney, take off the got-damned gloves.
20 min in and Mittens is doing precisely that by attacking POTUS for reducing leases on federal lands!
Hot damn, a serious energy question.
Obama just claimed that letting GM and Chrysler go bankrupt wouldn’t have allowed them to stay open…
Its called CHAPTER 11 bankruptcy!
And Ms. Crowley has picked her side, planted her flag, and is singing from a high mountain. Tanked.
Obama just admitted he’s increased oil and coal production. Then why am I paying $4.83 per gallon in Cali?
Obama is telling a stack of half-truths (or lies) about his energy policy, “we” are producing oil and gas in spite of his policies.
Nor did he answer the question.
I thought it was Obama who had the ‘all of the above’ energy plan. WTF?
Nancy, it’s because the pResident can’t follow himself when he gives explanations.
Lets’ go Mitt….get tough with Obama and specifically go after his failed policies.
This is just begging (in a few minutes probably) for Romney to say something like “Isn’t it time to give me a chance to respond, Candy?”
It’s a miracle he gets a word in edgewise, Charlie. The media have made sure to hire pro-Loony-Lefties. I think that speaks volumes in and of itself that R&R have won or tied in debates with such an unfair bias and distinctive advantage.
somebody better follow axelrod…
he is heading for the nearest fire alarm.
Shorter Dear Liar: in the future, cars will run on unicorn farts.
Okay, ladies…
Who would you ‘rather’: Rom-Rom or Bam-Bam?
Croatian wines!
Mr Obama; Mr Woodshed. Mr Woodshed; Mr Obama. *shakes hands*
Listen to Obama’s voice. It’s tense. It’s stressed. It’s high pitched.
He’s pleading.
Romney’s voice is even and not stressed at all. It’s smooth.
The Bamster looking like the Mona Lisa with that grin.
Ding, ding, ding on the pipeline!!!!
Holy full of poop batman, this guy actually believes his bs, the President has no flipping clue what his policies have done to energy. Candy is less partisan than Pravda but not by much. mpw
go Mitt….talk about how to create private sector jobs and how Obama’s failed policies have created our problems…..Obama doesn’t understand anything about the economy….
Obama was such a liar on energy, he is trying to destroy the coal industry, he has spent hundreds of billions of dollars feeding his campaign supporters with energy contracts just before they go bankrupt. That way they have more time to fundraise for him.
wish someone would talk about new refineries
So, she is going to give obama the last word on every subject.
“We’re actually drilling more on public lands than the previous administration.” Does the EDF and Earth First know about that Obama?
Looks like Obama’s a one-trick pony, repeating that whatever Romney says isn’t true.
Oil production is up IN SPITE of Obama’s policies. C’mon, Romney!
“But that’s not what you’ve done in the last four eyars.”
The vodka pundit is out already. Must be on Aristocrat. Mr Obama is out on his feet, must be the attitude.
Obama is shrinking before my very eyes.
The second time Obama called Romney a liar, “…what he is saying is just not true.” I am counting how many times he vomits this tonight. on no, almost coming to blows now…
fight!!!!!!
All together now “Obama hides behind women’s skirts.” Who wants to make the poster? I can make the poster. I can put the poster up. “Cowardly man. Hides behind girls.”
Check your email Sarah.
Answer the question Obama….he just dances and spews baloney….
I love PJ Media, but your “live blogging” “You’re commenting too quickly” is ludicrous. Why bother commenting?
Go, Romney. How much have you cut, Mr. Prez? Hunh? Hunh?
Keep pushing and pummeling.
I’m loving this new Romney guy.
Ok… let’s drill on public lands even if it isn’t profitable. Riiiiggghhhttt.
I’m sorry, Anneke0 — where did you get that? Do you work in the energy industry? Do you have any clue what you’re blathering on about, or did you pick up this talking point from the DNC? When Obama first started bragging about how good he is for oil and gas, my colleagues and I were flabbergasted at his chutzpah. It’s a blatant, outright lie, but since most of the country doesn’t bother to educate themselves on such things, he gets away with it. People need to keep calling him on it. (If your post was a line from the debate, I apologize — I’m waiting for the replay when I’m good and drunk to watch it.)
It was a statement Obama made. He was complaining that oil companies only want to drill when they can make a profit. What are they supposed to do: drill at a loss?
And yes, I do work in the energy industry. I’m paid on a grant from an energy company.
boy get up at the POTUS and tell him how it is. OUCH
And we start with an Obama lie he’s defending- production on Federal land is up- I thought he prepped for this.
Way to go and make Obama sit down….
THE PROOF is at the PUMP.
Great line. Go, Mittens.
I’m literally boppig back and forth between the computer and my mom in the sewing room to keep her updated. So far, we are not impressed.
4.49 for diesel WTF in Washington ST
Export US cars? Where? Most of the world drives on the left. What a dope.
I think 4 ropes around the 2 of them would improve things. I hope the continue to get right in each others faces.
mitt is ‘dancing’ with this format. thus far, obama hasn’t been able to break in, and crowley is letting them go. this is actually turning out far better than the lehrer debate.
obama is giving limited attacks, and romney is parrying them with ease. the riposte’ is slow, elaborate, and beautiful.
obama’s constipated look is priceless.
Dear Liar is channeling his inner Joe Biden, and not doing it well. Just got schooled by Mittens.
The price of gasoline is high because the Left wants you outta your car! Ride your bike, dude.
Gas was $1.86 because we were on the verge of a great depression! O said that.
Hit him w/ A123 bankruptcy!
Mitt is going to take the fight to the real enemy, the flipping msm
so, I see what the moderator is doing: give Obama the “last word” on every issue
I’ve been muting the TV cuz I can’t stand the pres’s voice, but everytime I unmute he tell another whopper! Wow – this guy is in serious denial or believes in his good intentions so much he is blinded to the actual facts and results.
Yes! Romney just brought his balls out! HA! Double ha eveeen!
How does a faltering economy have anything to do with lower gas prices. What does that have to do with the price of oil on the world market…anyone…Bueler?
Obama isn’t looking much better than debate 1.
I’m for pipeline too. Especially laying it.
Wind energy! Drink!
Go get ‘em Mitt. Dont’ let Obami and Candy cut you off.
This is no longer a townhall debate. It’s a man on man debate.
Of course, Obama is still lying through his teeth.
Again, moderator is being a biased lib. If anyone believes obama has done well, with the energy policy, wipe the drool off your chin.
OMG, Romney missed the oppertunity to call Obama a wind job.
Whaaatttt???? I don’t understand his theory on gas prices when he took office as compared to now.
Candy is not being fair to Mitt…she is showing her bias
what an asshole…Obama’s going full Biden. Good luck with that.
Candy must have gotten the “stand up to Romney” memo.
OK Zero so by your flawed logic gas prices will shoot sky high when the economy does take off – cause it sure isn’t doing much right now…
Did O just say that gasoline was cheap when he took office only because the economy was about to collapse? Good Grief!
You know what it takes to create jobs?…Brass balls! Brass balls and less regulation.
- yes, LOTS less regulation
- repeal Obamacare
- build pipeline(s)
- drill, dig, refine & export (esp coal & natural gas)
- lower marginal tax rates & tax simplification (fewer deductions & credits, broader base)
- lower corp tax rates & abolish unitary tax policy (allow profit repatriation)
Romney is just flat-out promising that he won’t cut anything, even if it’s as useless as, say, wind power. If he’s not lying, then welcome to the Steynpocalypse.
Meanwhile, Detroit 1, Yankees 0. Bottom of 4th.
First candidate to drop the F-bomb gets my vote.
if i didnt know any better i would think the trolls lingering around pjm are really barrack hussein obama
the demeanor, deranged thought processes, lying, misinformation, getting angry, strawmen etc., are nearly identical
I have no deductions, let’s have a flat tax!
Mitt’s message:
Bring rates down
Simplify tax codes
Other crap continues to rise in cost
But the middle class is being crushed. Keep. It. Up, Mitt.
Is it me? Or is he hitting Just. the. Right. Note. (?)
NO tax on savings. Go Mitt. We’ve wondered about that for decades.
The Bernank’s interest rate policy is already a substantial hidden tax on savings. Not taxing them formally is the least the feds could do. Romney’s doing very well, the Bamster better than 2 weeks ago. But how could he do worse?
“Is it me? Or is he hitting Just. the. Right. Note. (?)”
I see it. He believes what he is saying.
went back on the dvr to watch it…
if you have it recorded, listen to crowley’s “thanks governor”. she feel under the same spell.
I just love the words
“balanced budgets”….too bad Obama hasn’t passed one in years
Great, Obama got a pulse this time and making good use of the LIAR! LIAR! PANTS ON FIRE! strategy.
6:21PM Obama: The strong economy is why gas is up to $4.
Please use that in a commercial. Pleasepleasepleasepleaseplease.
Cut taxes for middle class families? Excuse me? Outside of the Bush tax cuts, when has Obambi cut my taxes? He took taxes that I paid and gave it to my elderly mother… who pays no taxes. Bonus money for nothing. Thanks for nothing.
You must have missed it — on my $60K salary I saw an increase of about $18.00. That’s a trip to Chik-fil-A for me and the kids. Changed my life!
CLASS WARFARE!!!! BUILD ME ANOTHER STRAWMAN!!!!
BHO’s talking. I keep hearing: Blah, blah, blah, Ginger. Blah, blah, blah.
Wait, what?! I own a small business. Tax cuts?! Not so much, buddy BHO.
Having dinner at Wynn’s Casino in honor of Obama’s impending defeat.
thus far, obama is appearring like most of his campaign commericials…
the narrators are more convincing. hard to believe this guy is president. tonite, he doesn’t believe he is president.
should have gone with emphasis on demeanor, instead of something which a liberal might confuse for ‘substance’. he’s working too hard to make someone else’s argument. low on ‘conviction’, high on ‘whiny’.
shut up, you haven’t passed a budget in forever.
how is it that I can’t follow Obama….he just spews stuff but it doesn’t mean anything and he doesn’t practice what he preaches
Obama is lying like a rug on taxes, He knows that in January, taxes are going to spike with taxamageddon and he knows it. And taxes have not gone down during his admin. I can’t get over the stark difference between these two. Obama is so completely full of it, telling us, “Who are you going to believe? Me or your lying eyes?” And Romney sounds like a man who knows what he’s talking about.
Go Mitt – facts, facts, bury him in facts…..the lies coming out of Obama’s mouth make my head spin – what world is he living in?
There you go, Candy. Throw Obama a life line.
Mr. Romney is coming across as the grown-up in this. Obama is doing a creditable job of making his case. But, Romney is wilding him. This isn’t even fair. I’m genuinely shocked.
Mitt isn’t sitting down now while Blammer Blabs! YAY!
How is it Obungle can talk about budgets WHEN HE HAS NEVER SIGNED ONE!
Hey Barry… how much are you paying in taxes this day. Oh crap, Big Bird again. Get over it.
Obama spent 6 trillion and where the hell did it go?
Obama uses most of his time to set up straw men that looks a lot like Romney, and he never quite answers the question he was asked. Big Bird! Drink!
Yes, bury him in facts.
Having an obviously in the tank moderator may hurt the Obamanation more than it helps.
My wife is a gentle soul who at the beginning said “I don’t know if I want to hear you screaming at the screen” We watched a little while and was screaming at the rudeness of Obama and the collusion between him and the fugly fat tub of goo.
135. Nancy says: “how is it that I can’t follow Obama….he just spews stuff but it doesn’t mean anything and he doesn’t practice what he preaches”
The spewing – like an Alex Jones shortwave or internet radio program.
Just ‘stuff’ – a word salad with little content.
Aaaahhhh yes, how do we pay for tax cuts and cutting Big Bird. The President’s daily double..
“you wouldn’t take such a sketchy deal!” Really, this from a man who’s whole campaign was hope and change.
Oh good, Big Bird. President Trivialities
And since when did the moderator ask the questions for the audience in this format? Why is she giving Obama a chance to refute Romney, but not the other way around? I don’t care what she wants answered – she’s not a representative of an undecided voter…..
@CrowleyCNN – this is supposed to be a TOWN HALL. Get off your soapbox and let audience ask the questions!!
There it is… the smirk.
“5 trillion”
“Romney pays 14%”
its as if they told themselves this so often……
Percentages are irrelevant…I’m interested in actual dollars. I hope the R sets the O straight on this.
Is anyone running a “speaking time” clock like they did for Biden/Ryan.
Mitt:
Math adds up:
I balanced company budgets.
I balanced the Olympics’ budget.
I balanced the MA budget.
I know budgets.
Crowley interrupts … how, unexpected!
Does it seem like Obama is Attacker-in-Chief and Romney is Explainer-in-Chief? I’d rather have someone who can explain the difficult issues we face as a nation, rather than someone who is good at blaming others.
Your mom paid her own way thru college. Ok, who paid your way Barry?
Nice question.
Female inequality in the workplace . . . Candy’s choice of questions is illuminating . . .
Oh dear! Candy will get run out of town!
Where do I volunteer to drive the get away car!
If she’s an independent, I’m a ballerina.
Sure hope you’re 5’2″ and 105%# soaking wet!
Though Candy doesn’t much pretend to be ‘impartial,’ as long as Mittens gets the same questions and equal time w/ POTUS, that’s good enough.
I’m going Alexander Haig on this…”I’m in charge!”
Seminar plant question.
LAME! LAME! LAME!
Yes. About as independent as Debbie Whatshername-Yutz.
Here we go with the moderator again. Romney is kicking obi’s ass and Crowley is trying to mitigate it.
Obama was not raised by a single mom, he was raised mostly by his grandmother. His mom was too busy following the communist cause and posing nude for Frank Marshal Davis. Do a bing image search on Stanley Ann Dunham and see for yourself!
Romney looks soooooo Presidential! It wasn’t Obama’s enthusiasm (?)in the last debate (hick-up), he didn’t know enough to challenge Romney! (I am sipping a very good merlot). 60%!!!! You have to be kidding. I’ll take $25,000! Go Romney. I will not raise taxes! Spending (merlot was $24.95) cutting (Obama has never had a plan). Obama is pimping the moral obligations. The Wealthy ($99.00 bottle of merlot) are holding us hostage! Tax credit, groooos economy (who knew)? He actually said “Top Down”! Romney is on fire. Go to the CNN poll and vote. (I’ll have another). Disappointment, you gotta be kidding me, go Mitt. 3 1/2 million, that many says Obama? Did you notice Obama didn’t know the #’s on percent of federal land w/drilling limits. Mitt says 14%. Fact check please. (Are there lots of calories in merlot)? Obama is just weak or week. Obama has a lot of nerve even discussing deficits. The numbers ADD up Candy, Get it? Obama was ready with the Grandma story. I’m not buying it. He does not even look sincere.
When was the last time Zero signed a budget? Anyone? Bueller?
Same ole same ole from Obama. He does not get that thats why he is dropping in the polls.
Romney is hammering Obama on his record.
wow…
did obama practice that ‘attentive listening’ pose? worse advice than his benghazi intel.
keep waiting for a fly to get with five feet of him.
still that craned neck…can I say he looks like a turtle, without being considered a racist?
the only worse pose he could hit would be the ‘tom friedman’. still obama should have borrowed one of his turtlenecks.
What’s the politically-correct way to call The Moderator an asshat?
She’s a fat repulsive lying asshat. How’s that?
Think you need to promote a bigger server(s) for the third debate drunkblog Stephen, the word is out on how entertaining these can be. My thanks to you for setting it up and prompting comments, and your community for adding to thread.
Here! Here!
Having a.. (hic) Blast!!
-Roket
For whoever asked in the comments, CNN is running a speaker clock, currently Obama is 17:30 and Romney is approaching 15 minutes
Well, *I* think Mitt’s tearing him a new one on Libya….
I’ve been in Detroit and joined the debate as Romney was explaining his tax plan. If this segment is any indication of how it’s been going, Romney has to be eating Obama’s lunch. I like how he stopped Crowley in her tracks by saying of course his numbers add up.
I know one woman who should be unemployed after this….Candy Crowley, because she’s…
…The MODERATOR!
So the govt took over the student loan administration and they saved billions because they have no overhead. Am I right or am I right! Makes perfect sense to me.
Obama is supposed to be incredibly competitive. I don’t see here. I think Crazy Joe would have had a better shot.
Go check your last Turbotax returns. I’d be effing shocked if I paid as much 14% effective. Sure, if you’re single, making $200K and renting, maybe, but you have to work at it. Now, living in California my STATE taxes suck, but that’s another matter.
Will somebody please ask a question about religious freedom?
Since I’m not a drinking man, I couldn’t keep watching… nothing to deaden the pain…
I paid for my own BCP’s. WTF
Same here. I spent a few years with no insurance but I never missed a month of my BCPs. I don’t even understand the kind of irresponsibility it would take to say you couldn’t afford such things when there are so many options. Ridiculous.
Romney is comfortable letting people in Washington determine health care coverage? What do you call Obamacare you dope?
Man … O’s speaking manner is just GRATING on my nerves … BIG turn-off O …
Did Obama really say that his healthcare plan DIDN’T include government bureaucrats making decisions for women? Wow.
Blame it on Boooooossssshhhhh.
Blame BOOOOOSH.
If she’s undecided I’m the Pope. Wearing a thong on the Venice boardwalk.
If the “women make x cents for every dollar a man makes” were really true, couldn’t one financially ruin discriminatory companies by hiring only women and splitting the difference? The business owner would be happy, not having to pay those expensive men, women would be happy because they’d make more money, and they could undercut the prices charged by bigots.
Candy: Dear Liar is flailing, so let’s go to illegal immigrants (Hispanics) to promote the illegal immigrant vote.
Here we go with the contraception crap….
Contraceptives!
Oh, and I’m “undecided” but W = Mittens!
Another fake independent.
Obamus interruptus … the cracks are forming.
Stay the course, Mitt, stay the course.
Did you all notice that when Romney speaks, he always speaks about business, taxes, how to promote small business, and whenever Obummer speaks, it’s always that the government will provide solutions. That’s the big difference in concept, obummer is a political hack who has NEVER EVER run a business in his life! Romney has a record of success in virtually everything he has ever done!
WTF kind of question is the George Bush one???????This is crap – I want to hear why the Pres can’t be a leader that protects his assets overseas – why are four people dead, what is his policy for that….sheesh. I don’t care about how Mitt compares to Bush – this is stoooopid.
lol, did Romney just say that Obama and Bush are actually the same regarding producing deficits and not balancing budgets?
Yep, I can’t handle O any longer. I am tuning out.
Cheers!
Holy crap, Romney caught Obama’s MAJOR F’up on the contraception thing.
And he lunged on it later.
I’m impressed!
In the military, we say that, despite the best planning, the enemy gets a vote. Obama keeps talking about finding about a magical “perfect balance” between spending and revenues. However, the economy gets a vote — he doesn’t get that. It’s the third player in the equation. If the economy perks along, revenues are steady; if the economy tanks, less revenue. Developing a national budget is a dynamic art.
And if your income doesn’t match your spending, you should tighten your spending; I assert the easiest way to reduce government spending is to cut the size of government.
so, let me get his right, the government knows what a women needs in her healthcare plan more then the the women does? I’am starting to realize that many of Obama’s policies work off the assumption that he is the only adult in the room.
Romney could be reading the yellow pages, and he’d still be up.
O is incoherent. Glad I’m not drinking gaming this because it’s time to BLAME BOOOOSSSH and CLASSSSSSS WARRRRFARRREEEEEE…
O is just INSUFFERABLE … anybody else experiencing that?
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I couldn’t bear it any longer and changed the channel to USA — “Covert Affairs.” O is definitely insufferable. May God have mercy on us all. Please, please, please spare us from this Obama man.
Where are all these millions of jobs Obama has created? My husband and a few of his buddies sure would like to know.
Ok, Every time Stephen says :The Moderator” take a drink…
Obummer is not making up ground…he’s coming across as a whiny windbag.
Nope…no biased, carefully vetted questions from the audience here…move along…arrgh!
“HAH! The gaul, the gumption, the chutzpah”
The Gaul? I didn’t see any hairy pre-Christian French barbarians. What did I miss?
Was wondering when someone would catch this.
obama taking credit for a middle class tax break, immediately afte romney pointed out that gas is costing 2000 more a year and insurance premiums are up 2500, and home wealth has shrunk.
the ‘net’ effect of the tax cuts of obama versus a crappy, expensive, economy…
awkward.
Yes, and that $18.00 doesn’t begin to make up for the rise in rent, in food prices and in gas prices and in the fact that we are now going to have to pay more for health insurace (at least at my work (that is, those of us who still have jobs)). That middle class tax break Obama keeps touting is very, very thin.
Wait, wait, maybe someone will ask Obama how he’s different than Jimmy Carter?
Anyhoo, I predict liberals will think they have a big victory here even if Obama’s hair catches on fire.
We’ve gone after Al Queda’s leadership like never before. Riiiiiggght. Tell that to Chris Stevens.
“We’ve gone through a tough four years”
– Barack Obama
OMG, he opened the 9/11 door.
Mitt? Please, oh, please go for it.
Yup – getting Osama really helped in that inflation problem the questioner asked. Heh – energy again? He kept the commitment – ahh, I tried and that should be good enough for you. Here we go again with the taxes on higher income personnel…Ahh, Obamacare and Masscare – the moderator isn’t controlling this well at all.
O: “I said we’d end the war in Iraq, and we did!”
I wish someone would point out that you don’t “end” wars — you either win them or lose them. As Yoda said, “there is no ‘try’.”
Obama obviously has not seen the prices in a supermarket lately (if ever). Good grief, I cannot stand listening to O. But I need to stick with it. Most of my family and all my friends are liberals!
The economy sucks, but you can have all the condoms want!
Middle class has been buried in the last 4 years! Thanks Joey, you’re right!
Obama’s expression seems to say “I know, I know, I lost. But boy do have a great crib in Hawaii to retire to.”
Arrgh. There it is I swore if I heard millionaires and billionaires tonight I’d go get the hammer. Tonight my hammer’s name is RUM!
@Tom Perkins: You, Stephen and the ‘Moderator’ are funny!
Making my own attempt at live blogging this thing. Link.
My wife is Vietnamese. Everyone should have to fight like she did to get their citizenship.
Obama has sought cooperation from Congress!!!! LMAO.
Another clear ‘plant’ question on illegal immigration… Romney gets her name right, and after hearing it from BOTH of them, Obama STILL gets her name wrong. Still laughing.
Wowie, zowie. In responding to the immigrant questin, Mitt just became the debater, the moderator and the explainer-in-chief.
Top that, BHObot. (Wait, what?! You can’t? I didn’t think so.)
Talk Fast And Furious, Mr. Obama!
war spending NOT down…
bush’s peak…185 billion 2008.
2011 was at 171 billion.
ok, it is down less than 10%.
afghanistan:
2008, 43.5 billion,
2011, 119.4 billion.
not a good return on investment.
Lies about the AZ law.
Obama pointed out that “we” passed legislation mandating the doubling of mileage standards. Why didn’t they pass a law increasing the mileage by 600%?
I’m the Mexican gal joining in. I am having some Tequila, these debates makes me anxious! Wait a minute….immigration! I have been saying the same thing that Romney said all along, my liberal friends just don’t seem to understand why I am not a liberal and never will. Sorry I am just a green-card holder I cannot vote!
But why did Romney did not mention that this President has deported more illegal immigrants than his predecessor????
I’m also a latin immigrant and will never be a Democrat… It’s always better to believe in the merit-o-cracy, the hard work and the effort to get where you want to be, be it high or low, big or small, but your success is just that: yours; and you just need Freedom for that.
Cheers
Well said and cheers to you my friend! Lets try to educate our fellow Hispanics or remind them that they came to this Country to work hard and for the opportunities that their own Countries didn’t give them; and in the process remind them of the importance of the Civic Laws and what happens when Governments become too Corrupt. I’ve seen it, it is not looking good lately in this wonderful USA.
Okay, I’m switching to the Macallan 40 year old. I think Bambi is blowing this thing.
Omg, headline today “Honey Boo Boo Endorses Obama.” Where have I been?
Bulldookey. The first thing you did was blame a movie.
Just exactly what I wondered Tequila Gal! O is so convoluted hes standing on his head! And Romney can’t hit them all out of the park.
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Have your guys considered doing something like setting up an iframe pointing to an Amazon Cloud hosting account for the busy events?
“I’m the President!”
Please – quit reminding me…
There you go, Mr. Prez. Show that mock outrage!
O has all the talking points…chicks with birth control dig talking points.
LIAR – LIAR – liar!!!!
Crowley is crumbling and not holding order. Quelle surprise.
AK-47s. Mitt had better bring up Fast and Furious.
I’m back (got another bottle of merlot). Is Obama still talking. A pocket book issue? That was good. Obama has 2 daughters??? Who knew??? Mitt has this answer honey. Diff in Bush’uh. I didn’t expect that. Time keepers. I am so proud of Mitt. I saw him in Zanesville & Powell, Ohio. He had the same 5 point plan and it is perfect. They say if you hear something 7 times you remember it.
(Am I having Cab or Merlot)?. JOBS the 3 letter word. Jobs, JObs, Jobs, keep saying it. He is digging? I thought he was golfing and Moochelle was on vacation. Whattzz up. Pioneers of outsourcing!! That was a big flub (I think) fact check please. All Obama can talk is about those tires. Is that the only trade he did? Really? Self deportation. I was waiting for THIS guy. Where have you been for 4 years. Go Candy (if she helped with that). He didn’t end the war in Iraq, that is another difference between him and Bush. Bush scheduled the withdrawel. Obama hasn’t gone into his preacher, south side Chicago. Romney made committments! Obama is back on those millionaires. He just can’t get away from it. If you elect Obama you know what your gotta get.
Really? Go Mitt….5.4% was Obama’s number. Romney has it $$$. He just said Obama fundmentally (?) didn’t get it. I vote for that. Romney just locked it up.
He is fantastic. I’ve got one that works better, right here, right here,.
I’m voting Romney. A bright and prosperious future! I’ll take some of that.
A different subject. OK, Lorraine..Just like there was a black guy, there is an immigrant. Just Legal Ones though. Obama looks small in that chair being ripped for no immigration. Romney is right on it. I look forward to it. I bet you do. He will bring up his Kenyan father……well (maybe no). You had the first two years….Donkey, you didn’t do it. You just didn’t do it, you were busy on the golf thing. Obama juest looked really goofy on that sitting down with R & D’s. Sure you did. Romney did it every week, how about you???? Self deportation. I liked that when he clarified the green card/card check. You had two years…. At the end of the day, that is sadly his record. First year, he just didn’t do it. Whooo that was almost a clash…jucy.. Obama is trying to look tough on Immigration when he didn’t do it for 4 years. (almost out of merlot). It is a political issue. Hi Carrie. Carrie is a guy. Brain trust, that is heavy…Libya. Uh Oh! It was Bush’s fault. Hillary already set this up. He does not even have to answer that. Common Candy. He just bumbled because he wasn’t telling the truth about being accountable. We are going to hunt them down. Don’t mess with Americans. He is going to end the war in Libya?/?? Did he really say that? He still didn’t answer….ok. I greet the coffins. Why didn’t we know? Good one. Oh, Las Vegas fund raiser. I was amaxzed that he did that. Stupid visual. He was in Vegas while our Ambassador was being dragged through the streets. Good, the apology tour. Keep saying it Barry, I am responsible. Shur ya ar. I was greiving after all. The suggestion.. that we are playing politics. Oh my G*D… Obama called it an act of terror the next day….I didn’t get that. He kept saying ….Obama changed his story, we were just not paying attention. Oh dear,the gun thing. Ogama does not believe in the 2nd admmendment. I don’t believe that for one second.
Statement by the President on the Attack in Benghazi
I strongly condemn the outrageous attack on our diplomatic facility in Benghazi, which took the lives of four Americans, including Ambassador Chris Stevens. Right now, the American people have the families of those we lost in our thoughts and prayers. They exemplified America’s commitment to freedom, justice, and partnership with nations and people around the globe, and stand in stark contrast to those who callously took their lives.
I have directed my Administration to provide all necessary resources to support the security of our personnel in Libya, and to increase security at our diplomatic posts around the globe. While the United States rejects efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others, we must all unequivocally oppose the kind of senseless violence that took the lives of these public servants.
transcript!!! do you see terror in here?
On a personal note, Chris was a courageous and exemplary representative of the United States. Throughout the Libyan revolution, he selflessly served our country and the Libyan people at our mission in Benghazi. As Ambassador in Tripoli, he has supported Libya’s transition to democracy. His legacy will endure wherever human beings reach for liberty and justice. I am profoundly grateful for his service to my Administration, and deeply saddened by this loss.
The brave Americans we lost represent the extraordinary service and sacrifices that our civilians make every day around the globe. As we stand united with their families, let us now redouble our own efforts to carry their work forward.
>HAH! The gaul,
How is this like ancient Frenchmen?
(I can only forgive you that if you are ahead of me. I am at 7 ounces. Johnny Walker Green.)
Steve,
You’re going to like this: Liora just noticed another of Obama’s tells. Just before he lies, his eyes go out of focus.
She was actually surprised by it.
Heh.
P.S. Romney needs to bring up Fast and Furious. Now.
Idle thought going through my brain: That Lorraine Osarios is hot.
Back to the debate.
Obama just stated that when it comes to Iraq and Afghanistan, he means what he says.
Just like Joe “The Joker” “Used Car Salesman” Biden
Another extreme leftist “independent”.
Second ammendment rights! You can call me a bitter clinger! I’m ok with that.
WELL. Did we notice how ‘The Moderator” cut off the discussion about Bengazi? How very surprising! I am outraged that she stopped this discussion about which Americans are very engaged, but went to a question on gun control. How very, very convenient. I hate what is going on in these debates, the media, and this nation in general.
And here I was afraid that Mitt was going to miss the Fast and Furious softball.
Great job Candy Crowley.
Here’s the transcript of the rose garden remarks: http://foxnewsinsider.com/2012/09/12/transcript-read-president-obamas-remarks-on-american-deaths-in-libya-attack/
All these comments keep crashing the servers. Next time, Stephen should turn the comments off and you server-crashers can text each other.
Score!
Fast and Furious. Thank You!
Fast and Furious. Liberals don’t even know what is that, and what ever Romney can explain is not even close of what I heard in Mexican news back in early 2010!
What a shame!
Obama’s Rose Garden statement says nothing about terror http:/m.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/09/12/statement-president-attack-benghazi
Obama lied about Libya, blatantly and obviously. I think Romney scored another debate walkover.
Finally.
Fast and Furious. Full daylight. Beautifully played.
And Crowley is doing gold standard work for Obama. But it’s not enough. It’s the first transparent thing I’ve seen associated with this administration.
Obama burped into the mic when answering the assault weapons question.
Gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!! Mitt, you moron!!!!
F A S T A N D F U R I O U S ! ! ! ! !
I know, I know. Why, oh, why can’t the good guys go after the jugular?
Crowley has been way better than Raddatz. Jeez Obama stutters a lot.
“for before he was against” is getting rather old!!!!
Maybe the president should come up with something new!!
sorry, I meant to say “pResident”
romney is a douchebag; obama is an asshole.
what do you want?
only douchebag I see in the room, his name begins with a “p” and rhymes with gaul
Trickle-down government. Love it.
Did Candy just cut off Obama?! For shame! She just lost her spot at the cool kid’s table.
Romney looks like he knows what he’s talking about and Obama looks like a turtle…
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Server problems…. How long does it take to pour a martini?
Obama has gone from being the most powerful man in the free world to being the third most powerful person on the debate stage.
The Rambler is at it again…Obie does not understand the economy.
Comforting the families for days later? Well yah! He was here in Las Vegas those four days at fundraisers stumping! Watta maroon.
Hate to say it, but Obama did very well. Distorted, omitted, dissembled and equivocated like hell – but did very well. His use of the “last word” in the question sequences to state absurdities without being countered was masterful. And the “moderator” enabled him less than I expected.
The divider in chief is almost as rude as biden and candy/dandy is helping him be rude. He’s talked over Romney on so many occasions it’s pathetic.
And she lied, too, as many commenters have pointed out. Obama did not mention terror at all in the Rose Garden.
Beyatch.
How could a group of undecided voters not ask about Obamacare?
“Undecided” voters, my ass. They were Democrats begging Obama to give them a reason to vote for him again.
Lord have mercy, Obama cannot make a point in less than 1000 words.
Well, if Obama uses 1000 words when 100 will do, then he takes up more time which Romney doesn’t really recover due to “The Moderator”. I hate the whole thing.
Stephen, in case you haven’t noticed, the servers are sooooo overloaded …
Mitt, you moron. It’s not Chinese cheating or IP theft, IT’S OUR OWN STUPID REGULATIONS!!!!!!!!
The wheels on the bus are coming off,
coming off,
coming off.
The wheels on the bus are coming off,
and Barry’s pushing the accelerator through the floor…
“Sorry for the delay. Server issues or some such.”
This happened during the last presidential debate. Don’t you think that the clue light should come on by now? Invest in some upgrades.
Help out – send money.
In the beginning of this debate I thought it would be a draw but Mitt has whittled away – made his point about ‘not settling’ at where we are now.
Good job Mitt.
To the MSM: You probably think Zero hit it out of the park – and you’re right – a foul ball…
It stinks – the economy stinks – high gas (everything is going up up up!) stink – Obama stinks!
And so does Candy Crowly. She stepped in all too often – and always in Zero’s favor.
I missed much of the debate—I had a job commitment I had to take care of—but I still had time to hear a half-dozen lies and obfuscations by the President.
Romney may have been a little disadvantaged by truthfulness.
Job commitments to a job that I’m overqualified for. Mr. President, I’m really tired of being under-employed.
Obama LIED about Benghazi, no one is going to believe his statement.
“You don’t turn national security into a political issue.”
…you mean, like attacking your political opponent with it during a debate? Like that?
Also, shouldn’t national security be THE MOST IMPORTANT political issue?
Good God man! Don’t you know that using logic is unfair?
(Apologies to God.)
Yes, Crowley did everything she could to cover Obama, derail Romney and deflate his big issue, but it doesn’t matter: Romney had an opportunity to gut Obama and he muffed it by going for extra points and getting into a direct exchange, which bled off his momentum and gave the question to Obama. Of course the fix was in, but Romney still could have done it, and he muffed it. Stupid.
Otherwise Neo was okay enough that the Usual Suspects will be in paroxysms of joy at the unmatched magnificence of his oratory and his overall glorious performance.
– apple in Crowley’s mouth.
Lost caper made excellent point about Candy choosing to screen out any questions over Obamacare.
Crowley’s stumble over assisting Obama w/ the Libya question will haunt her.
Observations:
Candy did remind me of Ditka in drag.
Every time Obama says “folks” is a good time to take a drink.
Obama cannot directly answer a question.
Romney still looked more presidential.
It’s still all about the economy stupid.
The fact checkers will be might busy…btw, Planned Parenthood does NOT offer mammograms.
Re: “Sorry for the delay. Server issues or some such.”
PJMedia probably has a robust and troll-resistant comment filter system. For live-blogging, this would bog down the server and drops requests, due to the high volume. Check out Powerlineblog.com/live for a high volume way to do this.
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Didn’t say ‘terror’
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I’m still waiting for Obama’s “Fast and Furious” answer.
Oh, that?
Well, [statement is protected by Executive Privilege].
Did that clear it up?
(Since I entered late, I’m making up time with straight vodka. It helps me bear up when I realize that I have two or three more college degrees than my supervisors at work and get paid a third what they do but this is the best job I’ve found in this economy. Run on sentence. Incomplete sentence. Yea, Obama.)
BTW Stephen, it quickly became imnpossible to ‘Reply’ to other commenters due to server load.
Pretty darn good debate drunkblog.
PBS: All in for Obama. Martin, at Politico (?!), is part of this assessment. Totally objective, of course.
Yet another reason to defund PBS and NPR.
Help me, Jesus. Here comes pant-crease Brooks, along with Ifill and Shields-the-DWS-wannabe.
Romney fumbled the Libya question pretty bad. He should count his lucky stars that the Libya fiasco is more clear cut for most Americans.
This one is a narrow victory for Obama. Who advised Romney that he should be “centrist” on the Libya question?
lee = Moby
Own-goal score lee, he lied, plain and simple.
Who lied? And who’s Moby?
“lee” isn’t a Moby. Mobys are more insidious.
On blogs a “MOBY” is a particular kind of troll who pretends to be for the side he opposes. Often a moby sounds like one of the faithful then begins to make crazier and crazier statements that make the view he is pretending to support sound crazy.
This type of behavior was popularized by the singer Moby, hence the name.
I don’t pretend to support Romney. But in this debate, he gave Obama life by not going on the offensive on a key issues.
I knew he was going to play center on outsourcing and such, but come on, you have o throw the free marketeers some bones.
David IV of Georgia: ” “lee” isn’t a Moby. Mobys are more insidious. ”
I know; just trying to get the dander of the boy ‘up’ … and if he was tending that way, ‘calling’ him on it.
Is lee just one of the democrat regulars then?
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“6:13PM Whoa. 13 minutes in and 86 comments already? Say a little prayer for our servers, OK?
PS, I love you all.”
That’s nothing. You should check over at Hot Air. I say let the people WHO PAY for this operation to speak as they will.
Obama did actually refer to it as an act of terror in the Rose Garden on Sept 12:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/09/12/remarks-president-deaths-us-embassy-staff-libya
Once more Hussein O rescued by beloved CNN’s Crowley
lee: “Who lied? And who’s Moby?”
That’s lee, for you, out of touch and not paying attention …
Say goodnight Gracie.
I’m sorry, I have no idea what you’re saying. You can’t throw out statements like “lee = Moby” and “own goal scored” without providing some kind of context.
O lied, therefore, own goal score. You can’t see that?
Master of disaster: “Obama did actually refer to it as …”
Where?
Show us the word.
Someone posted it above … its not there. Sorry.
But thanks for playing, Moby!
“No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be done.”
Context matters and the context here is that Obama connected this “act of terror” to … a mob action over a YouTube video — not a deliberate terrorist attack. Obama was using the term generically and it would be almost two weeks before he used it again.
Let’s not forget that Susan Rice said declaratively on the five Sunday shows four days later that it was NOT an act of terror.
And during those two weeks the Obama administration lied like a rug. For Crowley to step in and attempt to correct Romney on a statement that is at best arguable, was completely out of line. The debate over this debate has only begun.
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Per BB
The problem isn’t whether he really described it as a terrorist incident or not (Which is technically did, in a non committed way). It’s the way he contradicted himself and ignored intelligence.
The fact checking people will claim that Obama indeed characterize the attack as a terrorist incident a few times, just as they’ll insist that Obamacare doesn’t LITERALLY ration healthcare, although its policies essentially amount to that.
I *did* pay for this operation at one point. Get the shtupid streaming issues fixed and I’ll be back. YouTube doesn’t seem to have the problem, hell, youPorn doesn’t have the problem (don’t ask me how I know) and I don’t pay for them, so figger it out, for the love of all that’s holy.
I wonder if it’s a let-down to Ms. Crowley that tonight was the pinnacle of her career?
The lowest and most dishonest part Crowley’s disgraceful “moderation” was when she actually jumped into the debate to take Obama’s side when the issue of Benghazi came up. To cover for his and his administration lying for almost two weeks about the attack coming as the result of a spontaneous protest over a YouTube video, Obama attempted to use as cover, he claimed he had called the attack a “terrorist attack” on that very first day during his Rose Garden statement.
Romney correctly disputed that.
Crowley, quite incorrectly, took Obama’s side and the crowd exploded.
Here’s what Obama said that day:
“No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for.”
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See the difference Mobys?
From:
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/10/16/Crowley-Saves-Obama-with-false-fact-check
Wrong lee.
See above.
Silly Moby.
You can go back to dKOS or DU or PMSNBC now …
I’m not a MOBY. When the artist Moby was still relevant, I only liked one or two of his songs.
Romney did ok on most parts of the debate, then couldn’t go for the jugular on that one question that Americans were interested in being addressed. We all know what they’re gonna say about the economy, taxes, etc.
Romney is fortunate that Libya was a massively losing issue for Obama already. But this debate was a narrow loss or a draw for him.
Well, thanks anyway ‘Moby’.
(As the saying goes, if the show fits …)
Now that your ‘points’ have been shown to have been null and void re: ‘terror’, are you changing the subject?
Also, are you a ‘tar baby’ rather than a moby?
I’m a “Moby” because I didn’t think Romney wasn’t as good as he was in the first debate? OK.
Obama half heartedly mentioned that America won’t be beaten by “a terrorist act”, then he and his minions emphasized day and night that the attack was an isolated incident. He wanted to have it both ways.
Technically, he did describe it as a terrorist incident. The problem is that he didn’t really mean it.
If it’s true Obama knew it was a terrorist attack that day, why did he still go to Vegas? Bush got much worse for finishing a book to a bunch of children, and that was what… like 8 minutes?
Obama opened up a can of worms tonight. He admitted that he knew that Benghazi was a terrorist act the day after the attack. Yet 5 days later his representative was going on talk shows claiming that it was a spontaneous reaction to a stupid video.
He can not have it both ways and Romney will undoubtedly push this hard in the following days and in next week’s foreign policy debate.
Obama’s indignation about politicizing Benghazi is playing well on MSNBC but he has fallen into a trap.
Okay regulars -and mobys- it’s been fun .. be back for the next debate … 73′s and catch you on 3880 or 3885 (AM) if you have 75 meter capability … W5 callsign area here …
You need TiVo. I’d wait a bit for more complete commentary.
Both are overcoached and overprepared. Made both their performances crap.
Tie.
Crowley was a disgrace.
Crowley didn’t help Obama on the Benghazi question. His answer only raises more questions. If he knew it was an act of terror then why did he send Susan Rice out 5 days later to say that it wasn’t? An attempt at cover-up coordinated with the campaign. They thought they had the media in their back pocket with their (the media) rush to condemn Romney about his same night remarks.
Obama does have the media in his pocket but now they have stepped in it.
Yeah, I think so too. Romney made a point to get Obama on the record re that first reaction to Benghazi. There was no mention of terror or terrorism on Obama’s part. It took him several days to even utter the words. Others have provided the evidence, and I will tag it on as well (it comes from the White House website — who will be surprised to find it scrubbed away before the night is out?) President Barack Hussein Obama is a liar, and Romney proved it in the debate tonight. And Candy Crowley proved herself to be a liar and a hack partisan as well.
Here, again, are the president’s first remarks in the Rose Garden following the Al Qaeda attack on the Benghazi consulate, and as you can see, there is a whole lot of meaningless fluff, there is one generic defense of Islam, but there is no mention whatsoever of terror or terrorism as the root cause of the atrocity:
“Statement by the President on the Attack in Benghazi
I strongly condemn the outrageous attack on our diplomatic facility in Benghazi, which took the lives of four Americans, including Ambassador Chris Stevens. Right now, the American people have the families of those we lost in our thoughts and prayers. They exemplified America’s commitment to freedom, justice, and partnership with nations and people around the globe, and stand in stark contrast to those who callously took their lives.
I have directed my Administration to provide all necessary resources to support the security of our personnel in Libya, and to increase security at our diplomatic posts around the globe. While the United States rejects efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others, we must all unequivocally oppose the kind of senseless violence that took the lives of these public servants.
On a personal note, Chris was a courageous and exemplary representative of the United States. Throughout the Libyan revolution, he selflessly served our country and the Libyan people at our mission in Benghazi. As Ambassador in Tripoli, he has supported Libya’s transition to democracy. His legacy will endure wherever human beings reach for liberty and justice. I am profoundly grateful for his service to my Administration, and deeply saddened by this loss.
The brave Americans we lost represent the extraordinary service and sacrifices that our civilians make every day around the globe. As we stand united with their families, let us now redouble our own efforts to carry their work forward.”
heh heh heh . . . this will be a godsend for the GOP TV commercial producers.
It is interesting to see so many comments on Mitt’s failure to ‘go in for the kill’ on various questions and rebuttals.
Patience, friends, patience. Mitt is a smart guy. And I ask: Which is the better visual (or is the new buzz word ‘optic?) obama lying in a pool of blood after being eviscerated in front of all America, trying to gather in his marxist intestines spilling out on a stage, a month before election day…. or in the last debate, closer to election day?
Patience. What we may have seen tonight is the politicized version of ‘rope-a-dope.’ Mitt’s side is up 3-0 in these debates. Those other guys have absolutely nothing to give the American people but socialism, marxism, executive orders, and political tricks to pass legislation to find out what it really says. What have they give America? Green energy boondoggles and condoms to militant leftist women voters. Oh, and a bunch of condoms over oil wells. After the next debate it will be 4-0 and a clean sweep. And obama will not even feel the final cut when it comes.
I give up…I had to drunk-blog right along with you! Only way I could listen to the O-bam’s lies! God help us all if this girly-man gets reelected!
When you have Obama saying that the price of gasoline was what it was, when he was inaugurated, because the economy was on the verge of collapse, and this is what he alleges Romney wants – needless to say I call out those Canadian politicians who think that the status quo is acceptable.
I submit that all that gets exported to the US, except for how the Auto industry is so integrated, be reviewed. This is in order to expand, or develop, new markets.
All of this folderol in pursuit of a couple of remaining undecided voters? Trouble is, anyone who is still “undecided” is hugely immune to facts, is deaf to the untruths in Obama’s oratory, is looking for — what? A confident leader who promises to take care of them? By that measure Obama was more successful — he seemed confident, assured, like a scary boss you wouldn’t want to get mad at you. Romney seemed like a bit of a technocrat: more competent perhaps but not especially charismatic. So — if this debate really was just for the undecideds, you have to say Obama won by a considerable margin. Now, that does call for a stiff drink.