Comments on: Don’t Leave It to the BNP to Stand Up for Britain http://pjmedia.com/blog/dont-leave-it-to-the-bnp-to-stand-up-for-britain/ Thu, 16 Feb 2012 00:57:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: james http://pjmedia.com/blog/dont-leave-it-to-the-bnp-to-stand-up-for-britain/#comment-955678 james Mon, 04 Apr 2011 02:07:27 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=70583#comment-955678 You state the NICk says, quote that it is acepted belief that 6 million jews died in gas chambers, so it is , the BNP dos not, state that no jews died we simple state that we dont know ,it could have been 4, or 8 million, You state that he is a holocast rejecter, so what,,He is stateing the fact by agreeing with you, that yes, Israel exists, yes thier is a Jewish person in the BBC crowd, condeming him, saying you should go and live at the south pole, So according to your logic , his person no long lives. Your true stupidity is shown for what it is( Holocaust means the total extermation of a race, or form of life, D0 DOs eg)bird form of life, He did not say that he agreed with, Hitler, he simply stated that he believed in MATHS ONLY,EG flat earth, Next time you condem a person, use THE LOGIC OF Scorates=That which is the whole, MIND KIND, not PC multi what ever ism ,is greater than the part, Plato, truth is based, not only on what you see, say, but also what is not seen ,or not said, according to the Greeks GOODNESS IS BALANCE,( XY)+2= (YX)-2, EQUALITY IDEA OF GOOD INTENSIONS, imperfect American mind set ,IS NOT EQUITY, Britsh idea, based on truth, asolute= maths numbers, only.There is a VAST DIFFERANCE BETWEEN THE MEDIA, ect MERDOCK AND THE =GREEK= MEDIUM, MATHS. BNP member, you have know idea, of what you are dealing with. You state the NICk says, quote that it is acepted belief that 6 million jews died in gas chambers, so it is , the BNP dos not, state that no jews died we simple state that we dont know ,it could have been 4, or 8 million,
You state that he is a holocast rejecter, so what,,He is stateing the fact by agreeing with you, that yes, Israel exists, yes thier is a Jewish person in the BBC crowd, condeming him, saying you should go and live at the south pole, So according to your logic , his person no long lives.
Your true stupidity is shown for what it is( Holocaust means the total extermation of a race, or form of life, D0 DOs eg)bird form of life, He did not say that he agreed with, Hitler, he simply stated that he believed in MATHS ONLY,EG flat earth, Next time you condem a person, use THE LOGIC OF Scorates=That which is the whole, MIND KIND, not PC multi what ever ism ,is greater than the part,
Plato, truth is based, not only on what you see, say, but also what is not seen ,or not said, according to the Greeks GOODNESS IS BALANCE,( XY)+2= (YX)-2, EQUALITY IDEA OF GOOD INTENSIONS, imperfect American mind set ,IS NOT EQUITY, Britsh idea, based on truth, asolute= maths numbers, only.There is a VAST DIFFERANCE BETWEEN THE MEDIA, ect MERDOCK AND THE =GREEK= MEDIUM, MATHS. BNP member, you have know idea, of what you are dealing with.

]]> By: Jerry http://pjmedia.com/blog/dont-leave-it-to-the-bnp-to-stand-up-for-britain/#comment-444854 Jerry Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:25:34 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=70583#comment-444854 "The socialist component of national socialism is often overlooked; national socialism differs in scope but not in kind from the international socialism of Stalin, and is not conservative in any meaningful sense. And socialist policies lead to ruin, as is well documented. If the BNP ran the economy, they would not need to ban immigration — the country would soon be bankrupt and nobody, black or white, would want to come and live here." So, now Britain's a capitalist country and its economy would only be ruined if the BNP took over? Interesting assertion, coming from the people who routinely call Europe a socialist cesspool and use that word to describe any reforms that might make us more like them. And funny how even with the NHS, a much more comprehensive welfare state, and businesses that operate with significantly more restrictions than their counterparts in the States, the country's economy is still working and immigrants still want to partake in it. If someone as close to the center as Obama is supposed to destroy America, how exactly is it that the much more left-leaning British somehow failed to screw everything up? Just wondering. “The socialist component of national socialism is often overlooked; national socialism differs in scope but not in kind from the international socialism of Stalin, and is not conservative in any meaningful sense. And socialist policies lead to ruin, as is well documented. If the BNP ran the economy, they would not need to ban immigration — the country would soon be bankrupt and nobody, black or white, would want to come and live here.”

So, now Britain’s a capitalist country and its economy would only be ruined if the BNP took over?

Interesting assertion, coming from the people who routinely call Europe a socialist cesspool and use that word to describe any reforms that might make us more like them. And funny how even with the NHS, a much more comprehensive welfare state, and businesses that operate with significantly more restrictions than their counterparts in the States, the country’s economy is still working and immigrants still want to partake in it.

If someone as close to the center as Obama is supposed to destroy America, how exactly is it that the much more left-leaning British somehow failed to screw everything up? Just wondering.

]]> By: Federale http://pjmedia.com/blog/dont-leave-it-to-the-bnp-to-stand-up-for-britain/#comment-437137 Federale Tue, 03 Nov 2009 21:47:24 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=70583#comment-437137 No, other immigrant groups have not assimilated. Carribean immigrant groups have adopted Black American thug culture, including drugs, crime and welfare dependancy. No, other immigrant groups have not assimilated. Carribean immigrant groups have adopted Black American thug culture, including drugs, crime and welfare dependancy.

]]> By: RightwingHippyChick http://pjmedia.com/blog/dont-leave-it-to-the-bnp-to-stand-up-for-britain/#comment-437031 RightwingHippyChick Tue, 03 Nov 2009 19:36:17 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=70583#comment-437031 "28. Mary Jackson: No-one in the UK cares if he would still deny the holocaust Yes they do" Well, not the people on the street who mostly have no idea what the entire thing was about(WWII innit, we beat Jerry but it wuz a long time ago!), it's history by now that all the people from this time are dead and given how Labour and Tory hate Israel and actively work to undermine it at every turn, why should they care about it in the first place? I wish they did, but it ain't so anymore. People like Milliban openly support terrorists as an acceptable menas of political discourse, and Israelis cannot enter the UK without fearing they'll be prosecuted over war crimes. Holocaust denial may create a short kneejerk reaction, but that can be easily placated, especially now that more and more 'nice and normal' people are joining the BNP and the stormfront nutters are getting crowded out. Wake up Mary, this is a serious threat and pouting in the corner stomping our feet and boring people with long gone history isn't going to win us anything here! “28. Mary Jackson:

No-one in the UK cares if he would still deny the holocaust

Yes they do”

Well, not the people on the street who mostly have no idea what the entire thing was about(WWII innit, we beat Jerry but it wuz a long time ago!), it’s history by now that all the people from this time are dead and given how Labour and Tory hate Israel and actively work to undermine it at every turn, why should they care about it in the first place?

I wish they did, but it ain’t so anymore. People like Milliban openly support terrorists as an acceptable menas of political discourse, and Israelis cannot enter the UK without fearing they’ll be prosecuted over war crimes.

Holocaust denial may create a short kneejerk reaction, but that can be easily placated, especially now that more and more ‘nice and normal’ people are joining the BNP and the stormfront nutters are getting crowded out.

Wake up Mary, this is a serious threat and pouting in the corner stomping our feet and boring people with long gone history isn’t going to win us anything here!

]]> By: Greying Wanderer http://pjmedia.com/blog/dont-leave-it-to-the-bnp-to-stand-up-for-britain/#comment-436721 Greying Wanderer Tue, 03 Nov 2009 12:42:46 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=70583#comment-436721 The British people are in the process of being eradicated from their own country by an unholy alliance of the cultural marxist left and the cheap labour addicts of big business. That takes priority. The British people are in the process of being eradicated from their own country by an unholy alliance of the cultural marxist left and the cheap labour addicts of big business.

That takes priority.

]]> By: Mary Jackson http://pjmedia.com/blog/dont-leave-it-to-the-bnp-to-stand-up-for-britain/#comment-436069 Mary Jackson Mon, 02 Nov 2009 15:13:01 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=70583#comment-436069 <i>No-one in the UK cares if he would still deny the holocaust</i> Yes they do. No-one in the UK cares if he would still deny the holocaust

Yes they do.

]]> By: RightwingHippyChick http://pjmedia.com/blog/dont-leave-it-to-the-bnp-to-stand-up-for-britain/#comment-436043 RightwingHippyChick Mon, 02 Nov 2009 14:18:00 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=70583#comment-436043 Mary: No-one in the UK cares if he would still deny the holocaust -- it's a long long time ago and the victims and perps of that time are long dead -- and in the here and now we have much bigger problems on our doorstep than the distant past, besides that, the BNP is the only UK party to support Israels' right to selfdefense over Gaza. Whether you believe that or not, it moot, fact is, people are flocking to the BNP and no-one is addressing the real issues that drive people there, and for as long as those issues are being ignored, the BNP will unfortunately pick up many voters. Mary:
No-one in the UK cares if he would still deny the holocaust — it’s a long long time ago and the victims and perps of that time are long dead — and in the here and now we have much bigger problems on our doorstep than the distant past, besides that, the BNP is the only UK party to support Israels’ right to selfdefense over Gaza.

Whether you believe that or not, it moot, fact is, people are flocking to the BNP and no-one is addressing the real issues that drive people there, and for as long as those issues are being ignored, the BNP will unfortunately pick up many voters.

]]> By: Mary Jackson http://pjmedia.com/blog/dont-leave-it-to-the-bnp-to-stand-up-for-britain/#comment-436028 Mary Jackson Mon, 02 Nov 2009 13:44:44 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=70583#comment-436028 <i>Griffin once denied the holocaust in his youth,</i> The quotation at the beginning of my article is from 1998, when Griffin was 39. That is an elastic definition of youth, almost as absurd as when the BBC uses youth as a euphemism for Muslims. Still, perhaps those boyish high spirits have evaporated over the last 11 years. Griffin once denied the holocaust in his youth,

The quotation at the beginning of my article is from 1998, when Griffin was 39. That is an elastic definition of youth, almost as absurd as when the BBC uses youth as a euphemism for Muslims.

Still, perhaps those boyish high spirits have evaporated over the last 11 years.

]]> By: RightwingHippyChick http://pjmedia.com/blog/dont-leave-it-to-the-bnp-to-stand-up-for-britain/#comment-435995 RightwingHippyChick Mon, 02 Nov 2009 12:02:44 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=70583#comment-435995 Whilst PJ engages in righteous indignation that is 100% context-free, the BNP in the meanwhile is making huge strides unchallenged as people like what they are saying(since it's everything the politicians have swept under the carpet (with the help of the media) or he past few years), and no-one really cares if Nick Griffin was a Nazi in his youth once, it matters what he is saying and doing now. Griffin appears to have listened to the people in the pubs and made a manifesto out of it, he is breaking the omerta of the established parties by discussing the very things that are always studiously avoided in 'polite' circles. This is why they listen, no-one cares about the nazi label anymore, for as long as he is prepared to point out loudly that the emperor (and politicians) are nekkid fraudsters. If it takes a 'nazi' to do this when the journo refuse to do their job, so be it. Why not actually get to the meat of what the BNP is saying and engage in the current discussion instead of spamming the issues with hysterical nonsense? It does not work, all that happens is that people stop to read you and talk amongst themselves. Here, I help you, those are some questions you should ask the BNP: 1. The EU has taken control of the borders and international treatsies make it impossible to refuse allowing more immigration. How will the BNP stop this? 2. Many countries refuse to take their criminal citizens back. How will you deal with that, and the fact that many of those people destroy their passports in order to stay in the UK? 3. How will the BNP ensure that it's future MPs will not immediately join the policial class and fleece & sell out the British electorate in the time honoured fashion? 4. What will you do about the millions of people who are benefit claimants? If you remove the dole, what will you do a) get them into jobs (which no longer exist) b) deal with the resulting crime wave? 5. How will you implement the death penalty you want to restore without risking miscarriages of justice? 6. How will you wean millions of people of tax credits without risking them falling into abject poverty whilst working full-time? 7. How will you finance your pledge to drastically lower petrol taxes, and by how much will you lower them? Can we see some figures? I could add lots more, but this are some of the things we'd like to see answers too, not whether Griffin once denied the holocaust in his youth, or whether he has ever killed and grilled his little sister's hamster (and other assorted tedious bogeyman stories) Just in case you think Griffin is a fool, here is a radio interview with the guy, listen to it and realise that you need to pull your socks up and come loaded for bear when you get in the ring with him: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?yzdzdytwhjy Whilst PJ engages in righteous indignation that is 100% context-free, the BNP in the meanwhile is making huge strides unchallenged as people like what they are saying(since it’s everything the politicians have swept under the carpet (with the help of the media) or he past few years), and no-one really cares if Nick Griffin was a Nazi in his youth once, it matters what he is saying and doing now.

Griffin appears to have listened to the people in the pubs and made a manifesto out of it, he is breaking the omerta of the established parties by discussing the very things that are always studiously avoided in ‘polite’ circles. This is why they listen, no-one cares about the nazi label anymore, for as long as he is prepared to point out loudly that the emperor (and politicians) are nekkid fraudsters. If it takes a ‘nazi’ to do this when the journo refuse to do their job, so be it.

Why not actually get to the meat of what the BNP is saying and engage in the current discussion instead of spamming the issues with hysterical nonsense? It does not work, all that happens is that people stop to read you and talk amongst themselves.

Here, I help you, those are some questions you should ask the BNP:

1. The EU has taken control of the borders and international treatsies make it impossible to refuse allowing more immigration. How will the BNP stop this?

2. Many countries refuse to take their criminal citizens back. How will you deal with that, and the fact that many of those people destroy their passports in order to stay in the UK?

3. How will the BNP ensure that it’s future MPs will not immediately join the policial class and fleece & sell out the British electorate in the time honoured fashion?

4. What will you do about the millions of people who are benefit claimants? If you remove the dole, what will you do a) get them into jobs (which no longer exist) b) deal with the resulting crime wave?

5. How will you implement the death penalty you want to restore without risking miscarriages of justice?

6. How will you wean millions of people of tax credits without risking them falling into abject poverty whilst working full-time?

7. How will you finance your pledge to drastically lower petrol taxes, and by how much will you lower them? Can we see some figures?

I could add lots more, but this are some of the things we’d like to see answers too, not whether Griffin once denied the holocaust in his youth, or whether he has ever killed and grilled his little sister’s hamster (and other assorted tedious bogeyman stories)

Just in case you think Griffin is a fool, here is a radio interview with the guy, listen to it and realise that you need to pull your socks up and come loaded for bear when you get in the ring with him:
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?yzdzdytwhjy

]]> By: Blackwater http://pjmedia.com/blog/dont-leave-it-to-the-bnp-to-stand-up-for-britain/#comment-435896 Blackwater Mon, 02 Nov 2009 05:49:19 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=70583#comment-435896 I've made a couple comments on this site offering my support and defense of BNP polciies but that was because I didn't know enough about them and have gotten to know quite a few BNP supporters that are anything but Neo-Nazis. I thought they were merely a nativist party that tossed around racial slurs here and there like is to be expected in such a movement. I also didn't think they'd have much more influence on the UK than much needed changes in immigration policies and reversing laws that descriminate against whites, Christians, conservative and males. But it seems I was wrong at least about some of the views of their leadership. I agree that their leftist economic policies would overall damage the UK which I wouldn't like to see. It's a shame though. The West desperately needs a political movement that protects the rights and livelyhoods of its native population since the plague of leftist socialism seems hell bent on destroying them. But it seems that too often these types of movements get hijacked by these Neo-Nazi morons. We need a political movement that rejects idenity based prefernces, that's patriotic and self-promoting, that has sound socio-economic policies and respects individual rights. I wish the Republican Party was that way here in America and I wish that the Conservative Party served that role in the UK. But unfortunately they don't. But they are the closest parties to those ideals so I guess they're better than nothing. I also think white people should stop being afraid of being called racists. Every other ethnic group is still racist and bigoted as hell. It's really only white people that truely attempt to become color blind. If you think your lofty ideals of racial harmony and equality holds any weight in the real world then just look at what happened in South Africa. The whites there decided to no longer try to live seperately from blacks and to allow the blacks to rule over them in the dream and promise that everyone would get along and live in peace and justice for once. In reality the country is spiraling out of control with crime now (they have the highest murder rate in the world), over 25% of the black male population are rapists and whites are being systematically persecuted and ethnically cleansed. The same will happen in America if "minorities" take over. Might not sound pleasent but it's the truth. I'm not advocating discriminating against anyone mind you. But for God sakes stop promoting race mixing, "multiculturalism" and affirmative action. It's slowly but surely destroying Western civilization. I’ve made a couple comments on this site offering my support and defense of BNP polciies but that was because I didn’t know enough about them and have gotten to know quite a few BNP supporters that are anything but Neo-Nazis. I thought they were merely a nativist party that tossed around racial slurs here and there like is to be expected in such a movement. I also didn’t think they’d have much more influence on the UK than much needed changes in immigration policies and reversing laws that descriminate against whites, Christians, conservative and males. But it seems I was wrong at least about some of the views of their leadership. I agree that their leftist economic policies would overall damage the UK which I wouldn’t like to see. It’s a shame though. The West desperately needs a political movement that protects the rights and livelyhoods of its native population since the plague of leftist socialism seems hell bent on destroying them. But it seems that too often these types of movements get hijacked by these Neo-Nazi morons. We need a political movement that rejects idenity based prefernces, that’s patriotic and self-promoting, that has sound socio-economic policies and respects individual rights. I wish the Republican Party was that way here in America and I wish that the Conservative Party served that role in the UK. But unfortunately they don’t. But they are the closest parties to those ideals so I guess they’re better than nothing. I also think white people should stop being afraid of being called racists. Every other ethnic group is still racist and bigoted as hell. It’s really only white people that truely attempt to become color blind. If you think your lofty ideals of racial harmony and equality holds any weight in the real world then just look at what happened in South Africa. The whites there decided to no longer try to live seperately from blacks and to allow the blacks to rule over them in the dream and promise that everyone would get along and live in peace and justice for once. In reality the country is spiraling out of control with crime now (they have the highest murder rate in the world), over 25% of the black male population are rapists and whites are being systematically persecuted and ethnically cleansed. The same will happen in America if “minorities” take over. Might not sound pleasent but it’s the truth. I’m not advocating discriminating against anyone mind you. But for God sakes stop promoting race mixing, “multiculturalism” and affirmative action. It’s slowly but surely destroying Western civilization.

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