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		<title>By: RKV</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/does_iran_want_the_us_to_stay_1/#comment-18717</link>
		<dc:creator>RKV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 00:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Calm before the storm.  A pre-US election offensive (Tet Redux) is coming.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Calm before the storm.  A pre-US election offensive (Tet Redux) is coming.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 21:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sepehr: As an American (of Lebanese descent), I can categorically state - I do not WANT to own any part of the ME!



You are correct stating &quot;Nobody made the US the policeman of the world.&quot;  Please believe me when I say I wish we weren&#039;t.  However, if it were not for the USA, where would the WORLD be today?  I&#039;ll let you answer that one since I&#039;m interested in just exactly how &#039;worldly&#039; and &#039;historical&#039; your views are.



On your statement of &quot;accepting Iran as a super-power&quot; - do you think attaining nuclear weapons only achieves that moniker?



Now back to the point of the post - I&#039;m not sure (unconvinced, as dougf said) about Iran&#039;s intentions.  There is logic behind the author&#039;s point yet there is also logic against it.  I firmly believe Iran&#039;s rulers are acting in self-interest first as that is only human nature.  However, as to exactly what that self-interest is, I don&#039;t know.  Time will tell.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sepehr: As an American (of Lebanese descent), I can categorically state &#8211; I do not WANT to own any part of the ME!</p>
<p>You are correct stating &#8220;Nobody made the US the policeman of the world.&#8221;  Please believe me when I say I wish we weren&#8217;t.  However, if it were not for the USA, where would the WORLD be today?  I&#8217;ll let you answer that one since I&#8217;m interested in just exactly how &#8216;worldly&#8217; and &#8216;historical&#8217; your views are.</p>
<p>On your statement of &#8220;accepting Iran as a super-power&#8221; &#8211; do you think attaining nuclear weapons only achieves that moniker?</p>
<p>Now back to the point of the post &#8211; I&#8217;m not sure (unconvinced, as dougf said) about Iran&#8217;s intentions.  There is logic behind the author&#8217;s point yet there is also logic against it.  I firmly believe Iran&#8217;s rulers are acting in self-interest first as that is only human nature.  However, as to exactly what that self-interest is, I don&#8217;t know.  Time will tell.</p>
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		<title>By: Ira Zad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ira Zad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 18:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems we have been invaded by Islamist-Fascist fantasizers, here.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems we have been invaded by Islamist-Fascist fantasizers, here.</p>
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		<title>By: sepehr</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/does_iran_want_the_us_to_stay_1/#comment-18714</link>
		<dc:creator>sepehr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 10:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom W and Ira zad



It seems that you know nothing about Iran. So go back to the school book and learn. Nobody made the US the policeman of the world. We have every right to power in the Middle East. The Middle East does not only belong to you. You should come to the table, and negotiate,and Iran will give you a share. This is the only way. We are the powerful of the region. Not you.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom W and Ira zad</p>
<p>It seems that you know nothing about Iran. So go back to the school book and learn. Nobody made the US the policeman of the world. We have every right to power in the Middle East. The Middle East does not only belong to you. You should come to the table, and negotiate,and Iran will give you a share. This is the only way. We are the powerful of the region. Not you.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom W.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 08:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You seem blinded by your fanaticism to America. You guys have to get over your superiority complex. That way it will be easier to reach peace.&quot;

Yes! How dare we say that the U.S. is superior to a country where women are covered head to toe in black bags because the men can&#039;t be trusted not to rape them;

where gays are hanged;

where non-Muslims are killed;

where terrorism is exported around the world;

where the government supplies weapons and training to kill fellow Shi&#039;ites in Iraq by the thousands;

where women are killed for holding hands with their husbands in public;

where the people get together in their thousands to foam at the mouth like rabid dogs and scream for the death of my country;

where children were marched through minefields holding plastic &quot;keys to heaven&quot;;

where the people support being oppressed by corrupt mullahs, as long as the mullahs provide the &quot;prestige&quot; of nuclear weapons to make up for all the country&#039;s other failings;

where citizens are publicly humiliated, imprisoned, tortured, and killed for daring to dissent;

where the people don&#039;t have the balls to do what the Rumanians did in 1989 and overthrow the government by themselves, without help, without heavy weapons, armed only with courage and a willingness to take casualties.

The U.S. is superior to Iran in every conceivable way. That&#039;s not fanaticism; it&#039;s the plain truth.

Iran is hell on earth, populated by complete losers.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You seem blinded by your fanaticism to America. You guys have to get over your superiority complex. That way it will be easier to reach peace.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes! How dare we say that the U.S. is superior to a country where women are covered head to toe in black bags because the men can&#8217;t be trusted not to rape them;</p>
<p>where gays are hanged;</p>
<p>where non-Muslims are killed;</p>
<p>where terrorism is exported around the world;</p>
<p>where the government supplies weapons and training to kill fellow Shi&#8217;ites in Iraq by the thousands;</p>
<p>where women are killed for holding hands with their husbands in public;</p>
<p>where the people get together in their thousands to foam at the mouth like rabid dogs and scream for the death of my country;</p>
<p>where children were marched through minefields holding plastic &#8220;keys to heaven&#8221;;</p>
<p>where the people support being oppressed by corrupt mullahs, as long as the mullahs provide the &#8220;prestige&#8221; of nuclear weapons to make up for all the country&#8217;s other failings;</p>
<p>where citizens are publicly humiliated, imprisoned, tortured, and killed for daring to dissent;</p>
<p>where the people don&#8217;t have the balls to do what the Rumanians did in 1989 and overthrow the government by themselves, without help, without heavy weapons, armed only with courage and a willingness to take casualties.</p>
<p>The U.S. is superior to Iran in every conceivable way. That&#8217;s not fanaticism; it&#8217;s the plain truth.</p>
<p>Iran is hell on earth, populated by complete losers.</p>
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		<title>By: sepehr</title>
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		<dc:creator>sepehr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 05:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ira Zad



Unfortunately, it seems that you have no idea  about Iran and how to deal with the government. You seem blinded by your fanaticism to America. You guys have to get over your superiority complex. That way it will be easier to reach peace.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ira Zad</p>
<p>Unfortunately, it seems that you have no idea  about Iran and how to deal with the government. You seem blinded by your fanaticism to America. You guys have to get over your superiority complex. That way it will be easier to reach peace.</p>
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		<title>By: Ira Zad</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/does_iran_want_the_us_to_stay_1/#comment-18711</link>
		<dc:creator>Ira Zad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 03:44:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Chuck&#039;s post above.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://mor2com.blogspot.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://mor2com.blogspot.com/&lt;/a&gt;



Suddenly, Iran is helping quell the violence in Iraq, US is talking &#039;talks&#039; and compromise with Iran, Iraq violence subsides, and Iranian regime gets its long awaited nuclear fuel shipment from Russia for its Bushehr nuclear plan (which incidentally, President Bush actually praised since he said it meant that Iran does not have to continue with enrichment anymore.) What?!



What could be the possible reasons for such sudden White House playing happy times with Iran?



The White House says Iran is helping quell violence in Iraq since the Iranians have realized that the violence they instigated was turning the Shiite masses. A weak argument at best, since Tehran regime has never shied away from mass opposition to it. Case in point are the Iranian people themselves who have been by a large majority against the regime, yet the regime keeps on persecuting them un-flinched for almost 29 years.



The most plausible reason for this sudden semi-d√©tente with Tehran is what the Bush administration has not told us about. And that is, a back door, behind-the-scene deal between US and Iran: Help us bring back peace to Iraq in exchange for US backing out a notch on your nuclear program. The Iranians brought up their POWs in Iraq, and their long awaited nuclear fuel shipment from Russia that has been blocked by the US so far. In return, US agreed to deliver, releasing Iranian POWs in Iraq, and signaling to Russia that it was now OK to release the first shipment of nuclear fuel to the Bushehr nuclear power plant.



So are we ready to send Condi Rice to Tehran to sing Kumbaya with the mullahs now? Perhaps not, but we are certainly laying the foundation for having the option to not to oppose it later.



Furthermore, it could seem that US, in a tactical move, is cooperating with Iran in order to quiet down Iraqi violence for political reasons, most likely for the 2008 presidential elections. When Iraq calms down, US troops will be relocated to Afghanistan which will help boost Bush&#039;s poll numbers. The Bush administration is trying to create an atmosphere in which the next Republican presidential nominee (most likely McCain) could actually win.



If true, it could be deduced then, that any serious, drastic action against the Iranian regime -if it ever happens at all-is being postponed until the next Republican president takes hold of the White House in January 2009.



The new Republican president, if he does get elected, may -some time in his term-- initiate military action against Iranian regime for the purpose of regime change, or just surgical strikes on Iran&#039;s nuclear sites.



On the other hand, depending on how many more Iran-appeasing deals Condi Rice makes with the mullahs between now and 2009, and whether the internal political structure in Iran changes in favor of the &#039;reformist&#039; Khatami/Rafsanjani crowd (who have EU ties), we could be setting the stage for shelving the &#039;regime change&#039; idea permanently in favor of &#039;peaceful co-existence&#039; with Iran for the foreseeable future. And naturally, this will be especially true if an Obama, or a Chelsea&#039;s Mama get into the White House in 2009.



Read my Iran Blog at: &lt;a href=&quot;http://mor2com.blogspot.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://mor2com.blogspot.com/&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Chuck&#8217;s post above.</p>
<p><a href="http://mor2com.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://mor2com.blogspot.com/</a></p>
<p>Suddenly, Iran is helping quell the violence in Iraq, US is talking &#8216;talks&#8217; and compromise with Iran, Iraq violence subsides, and Iranian regime gets its long awaited nuclear fuel shipment from Russia for its Bushehr nuclear plan (which incidentally, President Bush actually praised since he said it meant that Iran does not have to continue with enrichment anymore.) What?!</p>
<p>What could be the possible reasons for such sudden White House playing happy times with Iran?</p>
<p>The White House says Iran is helping quell violence in Iraq since the Iranians have realized that the violence they instigated was turning the Shiite masses. A weak argument at best, since Tehran regime has never shied away from mass opposition to it. Case in point are the Iranian people themselves who have been by a large majority against the regime, yet the regime keeps on persecuting them un-flinched for almost 29 years.</p>
<p>The most plausible reason for this sudden semi-d√©tente with Tehran is what the Bush administration has not told us about. And that is, a back door, behind-the-scene deal between US and Iran: Help us bring back peace to Iraq in exchange for US backing out a notch on your nuclear program. The Iranians brought up their POWs in Iraq, and their long awaited nuclear fuel shipment from Russia that has been blocked by the US so far. In return, US agreed to deliver, releasing Iranian POWs in Iraq, and signaling to Russia that it was now OK to release the first shipment of nuclear fuel to the Bushehr nuclear power plant.</p>
<p>So are we ready to send Condi Rice to Tehran to sing Kumbaya with the mullahs now? Perhaps not, but we are certainly laying the foundation for having the option to not to oppose it later.</p>
<p>Furthermore, it could seem that US, in a tactical move, is cooperating with Iran in order to quiet down Iraqi violence for political reasons, most likely for the 2008 presidential elections. When Iraq calms down, US troops will be relocated to Afghanistan which will help boost Bush&#8217;s poll numbers. The Bush administration is trying to create an atmosphere in which the next Republican presidential nominee (most likely McCain) could actually win.</p>
<p>If true, it could be deduced then, that any serious, drastic action against the Iranian regime -if it ever happens at all-is being postponed until the next Republican president takes hold of the White House in January 2009.</p>
<p>The new Republican president, if he does get elected, may -some time in his term&#8211; initiate military action against Iranian regime for the purpose of regime change, or just surgical strikes on Iran&#8217;s nuclear sites.</p>
<p>On the other hand, depending on how many more Iran-appeasing deals Condi Rice makes with the mullahs between now and 2009, and whether the internal political structure in Iran changes in favor of the &#8216;reformist&#8217; Khatami/Rafsanjani crowd (who have EU ties), we could be setting the stage for shelving the &#8216;regime change&#8217; idea permanently in favor of &#8216;peaceful co-existence&#8217; with Iran for the foreseeable future. And naturally, this will be especially true if an Obama, or a Chelsea&#8217;s Mama get into the White House in 2009.</p>
<p>Read my Iran Blog at: <a href="http://mor2com.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://mor2com.blogspot.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Romat</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Dec 2007 20:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most probably, the leaders of Iran aren&#039;t any smarter than our leaders but their plotting may be more feverish because their very existence depends on getting it right.  They are, after all, surrounded by NATO forces in Iraq and Afganistan and other countries with Sunni Moslem majorities. Iran hasn&#039;t the population or the resources to ever be a &quot;super-power&quot;  and much their population is restive and no doubt has our support.  The most the mullahs can hope for is to become a regional power capable of surviving as an Shiite Islamic republic for a decade or two at most.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most probably, the leaders of Iran aren&#8217;t any smarter than our leaders but their plotting may be more feverish because their very existence depends on getting it right.  They are, after all, surrounded by NATO forces in Iraq and Afganistan and other countries with Sunni Moslem majorities. Iran hasn&#8217;t the population or the resources to ever be a &#8220;super-power&#8221;  and much their population is restive and no doubt has our support.  The most the mullahs can hope for is to become a regional power capable of surviving as an Shiite Islamic republic for a decade or two at most.</p>
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		<title>By: chuck,</title>
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		<dc:creator>chuck,</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Dec 2007 18:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And coincidently the US intelligence does a 180 and &quot;determines&quot; that Iran isn&#039;t really about to get the Bomb.  I smell  a crooked deal.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And coincidently the US intelligence does a 180 and &#8220;determines&#8221; that Iran isn&#8217;t really about to get the Bomb.  I smell  a crooked deal.</p>
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		<title>By: sepehr</title>
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		<dc:creator>sepehr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Dec 2007 17:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The US has fallen hook and line and sinker for the Iranians. There is little America can do except accept Iran as a super power.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The US has fallen hook and line and sinker for the Iranians. There is little America can do except accept Iran as a super power.</p>
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