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		<title>By: venividivici</title>
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		<dc:creator>venividivici</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 11:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Put the crack pipe away. A ludicrous claim with no evidence, none, to substantiate it.&lt;/i&gt;

PJM ate my reply to this. Probably because I had too many links to stories of Medicare fraud. 

Anyway, speaking of crack:

&lt;i&gt;Mafia, violent criminals turn to Medicare fraud

By KELLI KENNEDY (AP) – 15 hours ago

MIAMI — Lured by easier money and shorter prison sentences, Mafia figures and other violent criminals are increasingly moving into Medicare fraud and spilling blood over what was once a white-collar crime.

Around the nation, federal investigators have been threatened, an informant&#039;s body was found riddled with bullets, and a woman was discovered dead in a pharmacy under investigation, her throat slit with a piece of broken toilet seat.

For criminals, Medicare schemes offer a greater payoff and carry much shorter prison sentences than offenses such as drug trafficking or robbery.

&quot;We&#039;ve seen more people that used to be involved in (dealing) drugs are switching over to health care fraud because it&#039;s not as dangerous,&quot; Miami FBI spokeswoman Judy Orihuela said...

&lt;b&gt;&quot;Building a Medicare fraud scam is far safer than dealing in crack or dealing in stolen cars, and it&#039;s far more lucrative,&lt;/b&gt;&quot; said Lewis Morris, lead attorney at the Department of Health and Human Services&#039; inspector general&#039;s office.&lt;/i&gt;

Maybe that should be ObamaCare&#039;s slogan, &quot;So Easy To Defraud, A Former Crack Dealer Can Do It!&quot;

&lt;i&gt;Medicare has been a smashing success. And Obama Care is going to model the public option similarly. And it’s going to pass and there isn’t a damn thing you can do about it.&lt;/i&gt;

When I read this, immediately the lyrics to the song &quot;It&#039;s My Party (And I&#039;ll Cry If I Want To)&quot; came to mind. You are just like a little girl, in your foot-stamping anger and fawning obsequiousness, so the image fits. When I read your posts, I feel the same kind of combination of loathing and pity that old school European explorers did when they came across native tribes who&#039;d been living in their own filth for thousands of years.

&lt;i&gt;You remind me of a pesky fly. Now shoo fly. Your guy lost.&lt;/i&gt;

You remind me of a fly&#039;s favorite meal. In our system, elections aren&#039;t the end of politics, they are simply a weigh-station in a continuous stream of political maneuvering. Perhaps you&#039;d be happier in a totalitarian state where there is no politics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Put the crack pipe away. A ludicrous claim with no evidence, none, to substantiate it.</i></p>
<p>PJM ate my reply to this. Probably because I had too many links to stories of Medicare fraud. </p>
<p>Anyway, speaking of crack:</p>
<p><i>Mafia, violent criminals turn to Medicare fraud</p>
<p>By KELLI KENNEDY (AP) – 15 hours ago</p>
<p>MIAMI — Lured by easier money and shorter prison sentences, Mafia figures and other violent criminals are increasingly moving into Medicare fraud and spilling blood over what was once a white-collar crime.</p>
<p>Around the nation, federal investigators have been threatened, an informant&#8217;s body was found riddled with bullets, and a woman was discovered dead in a pharmacy under investigation, her throat slit with a piece of broken toilet seat.</p>
<p>For criminals, Medicare schemes offer a greater payoff and carry much shorter prison sentences than offenses such as drug trafficking or robbery.</p>
<p>&#8220;We&#8217;ve seen more people that used to be involved in (dealing) drugs are switching over to health care fraud because it&#8217;s not as dangerous,&#8221; Miami FBI spokeswoman Judy Orihuela said&#8230;</p>
<p><b>&#8220;Building a Medicare fraud scam is far safer than dealing in crack or dealing in stolen cars, and it&#8217;s far more lucrative,</b>&#8221; said Lewis Morris, lead attorney at the Department of Health and Human Services&#8217; inspector general&#8217;s office.</i></p>
<p>Maybe that should be ObamaCare&#8217;s slogan, &#8220;So Easy To Defraud, A Former Crack Dealer Can Do It!&#8221;</p>
<p><i>Medicare has been a smashing success. And Obama Care is going to model the public option similarly. And it’s going to pass and there isn’t a damn thing you can do about it.</i></p>
<p>When I read this, immediately the lyrics to the song &#8220;It&#8217;s My Party (And I&#8217;ll Cry If I Want To)&#8221; came to mind. You are just like a little girl, in your foot-stamping anger and fawning obsequiousness, so the image fits. When I read your posts, I feel the same kind of combination of loathing and pity that old school European explorers did when they came across native tribes who&#8217;d been living in their own filth for thousands of years.</p>
<p><i>You remind me of a pesky fly. Now shoo fly. Your guy lost.</i></p>
<p>You remind me of a fly&#8217;s favorite meal. In our system, elections aren&#8217;t the end of politics, they are simply a weigh-station in a continuous stream of political maneuvering. Perhaps you&#8217;d be happier in a totalitarian state where there is no politics.</p>
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		<title>By: venividivici</title>
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		<dc:creator>venividivici</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 02:39:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Did it ever occur to you that Obama ran on reforming health care and won in a landslide.&lt;/i&gt;

Did it ever occur to you that I don&#039;t care about either of these points, the second of which is highly debatable, since he won by a single-digit % margin. Hardly a &quot;landslide&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Did it ever occur to you that Obama ran on reforming health care and won in a landslide.</i></p>
<p>Did it ever occur to you that I don&#8217;t care about either of these points, the second of which is highly debatable, since he won by a single-digit % margin. Hardly a &#8220;landslide&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: jharp</title>
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		<dc:creator>jharp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 23:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>venividivici:

“Of $34 billion annually spent by the Medi-Cal program for health care for some 7 million poor Californians, state officials estimate that as much as 40 percent or nearly $14 billion is stolen in fraud…” [LA Daily News]

Put the crack pipe away. A ludicrous claim with no evidence, none, to substantiate it.

Medicare has been a smashing success. And Obama Care is going to model the public option similarly. And it&#039;s going to pass and there isn&#039;t a damn thing you can do about it.

Did it ever occur to you that Obama ran on reforming health care and won in a landslide. Does it not make any sense to you that Obama follows through with his campaign promise.

You remind me of a pesky fly. Now shoo fly.  Your guy lost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>venividivici:</p>
<p>“Of $34 billion annually spent by the Medi-Cal program for health care for some 7 million poor Californians, state officials estimate that as much as 40 percent or nearly $14 billion is stolen in fraud…” [LA Daily News]</p>
<p>Put the crack pipe away. A ludicrous claim with no evidence, none, to substantiate it.</p>
<p>Medicare has been a smashing success. And Obama Care is going to model the public option similarly. And it&#8217;s going to pass and there isn&#8217;t a damn thing you can do about it.</p>
<p>Did it ever occur to you that Obama ran on reforming health care and won in a landslide. Does it not make any sense to you that Obama follows through with his campaign promise.</p>
<p>You remind me of a pesky fly. Now shoo fly.  Your guy lost.</p>
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		<title>By: venividivici</title>
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		<dc:creator>venividivici</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 22:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The entire health reform exercise is to reign in health care costs. And Obama and the democrats are all over it.&lt;/i&gt;

Ugh. Man, you and David S are hitting those talking points hard today. Must be payday at Axelturfer&#039;s Inc.

http://www.scrivener.net/2009/07/can-nationalized-health-care-reduce.html

&lt;i&gt;The Obama administration claims a critical reason to move to nationalized health care is to reduce rising health care costs that otherwise project to grow so great as to threaten the very solvency of the US government as soon as 20-odd years from now (which is true enough!)

It claims that its health care program can cut the projected level of health spending over the next 20 years by as much as 30 percent [.pdf] -- through application of careful scientific analysis to direct medical expenditures towards the most effective procedures, and so forth.

But what does experience say?

Well, by far the most wasteful cost to cut, and the simplest, the &quot;lowest-hanging fruit&quot; of all costs to cut, is fraud. No scientific analysis is needed for that at all!

How good is the government&#039;s record of cutting fraud from the health care it pays for?

    &quot;Of $34 billion annually spent by the Medi-Cal program for health care for some 7 million poor Californians, state officials estimate that as much as 40 percent or nearly $14 billion is stolen in fraud...&quot; [LA Daily News]
    ~~

    New York Medicaid fraud may reach into billions ... &quot;It&#039;s like a honey pot,&quot; said John M. Meekins, a former senior Medicaid fraud prosecutor in Albany who said he grew increasingly disillusioned before he retired in 2003. &quot;It truly is. That is what they use it for&quot;...

    James Mehmet, who retired in 2001 as chief state investigator of Medicaid fraud and abuse in New York City, said he and his colleagues believed that at least 10 percent of state Medicaid dollars were spent on fraudulent claims, while 20 or 30 percent more were siphoned off by what they termed abuse, meaning unnecessary spending that might not be criminal. &quot;So we&#039;re talking about 40 percent of all claims ...&quot; [NY Times]

These are reports of 40% fraud in Medicaid -- not &quot;inefficient medical procedures&quot;, but f-r-a-u-d and abuse -- from coast-to-coast, or at least on both coasts, 3,000 miles apart. (Remarkable consistency!) Total Medicaid fraud is estimated to be in the deca-billions, nobody really knows the exact number obviously.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The entire health reform exercise is to reign in health care costs. And Obama and the democrats are all over it.</i></p>
<p>Ugh. Man, you and David S are hitting those talking points hard today. Must be payday at Axelturfer&#8217;s Inc.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.scrivener.net/2009/07/can-nationalized-health-care-reduce.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.scrivener.net/2009/07/can-nationalized-health-care-reduce.html</a></p>
<p><i>The Obama administration claims a critical reason to move to nationalized health care is to reduce rising health care costs that otherwise project to grow so great as to threaten the very solvency of the US government as soon as 20-odd years from now (which is true enough!)</p>
<p>It claims that its health care program can cut the projected level of health spending over the next 20 years by as much as 30 percent [.pdf] &#8212; through application of careful scientific analysis to direct medical expenditures towards the most effective procedures, and so forth.</p>
<p>But what does experience say?</p>
<p>Well, by far the most wasteful cost to cut, and the simplest, the &#8220;lowest-hanging fruit&#8221; of all costs to cut, is fraud. No scientific analysis is needed for that at all!</p>
<p>How good is the government&#8217;s record of cutting fraud from the health care it pays for?</p>
<p>    &#8220;Of $34 billion annually spent by the Medi-Cal program for health care for some 7 million poor Californians, state officials estimate that as much as 40 percent or nearly $14 billion is stolen in fraud&#8230;&#8221; [LA Daily News]<br />
    ~~</p>
<p>    New York Medicaid fraud may reach into billions &#8230; &#8220;It&#8217;s like a honey pot,&#8221; said John M. Meekins, a former senior Medicaid fraud prosecutor in Albany who said he grew increasingly disillusioned before he retired in 2003. &#8220;It truly is. That is what they use it for&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>    James Mehmet, who retired in 2001 as chief state investigator of Medicaid fraud and abuse in New York City, said he and his colleagues believed that at least 10 percent of state Medicaid dollars were spent on fraudulent claims, while 20 or 30 percent more were siphoned off by what they termed abuse, meaning unnecessary spending that might not be criminal. &#8220;So we&#8217;re talking about 40 percent of all claims &#8230;&#8221; [NY Times]</p>
<p>These are reports of 40% fraud in Medicaid &#8212; not &#8220;inefficient medical procedures&#8221;, but f-r-a-u-d and abuse &#8212; from coast-to-coast, or at least on both coasts, 3,000 miles apart. (Remarkable consistency!) Total Medicaid fraud is estimated to be in the deca-billions, nobody really knows the exact number obviously.</i></p>
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		<title>By: venividivici</title>
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		<dc:creator>venividivici</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 22:40:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The HI deficit will average 1.6 percent of GDP over the next 75 years.&lt;/i&gt;

This analysis pertains to Social Security, but the numbers used are almost identical to your 1.6% of GDP. Read it and weep.

&lt;i&gt;How &quot;tiny&quot; is a 1.9% of GDP hole in the budget? And the revenue increase needed to plug it?

Well, the 1993 Clinton tax increase amounted to 0.83% of GDP, only about 40% as large. And that was able to pass the Democratic-controlled Senate only on vice-president Al Gore&#039;s tie breaking vote, and pass the Democratic-controlled House by only 218-216 (a single voter&#039;s difference).

The tax increase needed to stay even with Social Security is 2.3 times as large. A Clinton tax increase 2.3 times as large would never have gotten anywhere near the floor of Congress.

In 2007 total income tax collections (personal and corporate) were 11.2% of GDP. So increasing taxes by 1.9% of GDP to stay even with the cost of Social Security would require a 17% across-the-board income tax increase on everybody (including retirees).

&lt;b&gt;Anybody who uses the word &quot;tiny&quot; to describes 1.9% of GDP hole in the budget, requiring a 17% across-the-board income tax increase, is trying to sell you a bill of goods.&lt;/b&gt; No tax increase close to this large has been enacted since the end of World War II.&lt;/i&gt;

You might be selling a bill of goods, but I&#039;m not buying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The HI deficit will average 1.6 percent of GDP over the next 75 years.</i></p>
<p>This analysis pertains to Social Security, but the numbers used are almost identical to your 1.6% of GDP. Read it and weep.</p>
<p><i>How &#8220;tiny&#8221; is a 1.9% of GDP hole in the budget? And the revenue increase needed to plug it?</p>
<p>Well, the 1993 Clinton tax increase amounted to 0.83% of GDP, only about 40% as large. And that was able to pass the Democratic-controlled Senate only on vice-president Al Gore&#8217;s tie breaking vote, and pass the Democratic-controlled House by only 218-216 (a single voter&#8217;s difference).</p>
<p>The tax increase needed to stay even with Social Security is 2.3 times as large. A Clinton tax increase 2.3 times as large would never have gotten anywhere near the floor of Congress.</p>
<p>In 2007 total income tax collections (personal and corporate) were 11.2% of GDP. So increasing taxes by 1.9% of GDP to stay even with the cost of Social Security would require a 17% across-the-board income tax increase on everybody (including retirees).</p>
<p><b>Anybody who uses the word &#8220;tiny&#8221; to describes 1.9% of GDP hole in the budget, requiring a 17% across-the-board income tax increase, is trying to sell you a bill of goods.</b> No tax increase close to this large has been enacted since the end of World War II.</i></p>
<p>You might be selling a bill of goods, but I&#8217;m not buying.</p>
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		<title>By: Whosiwhatzit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Whosiwhatzit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 21:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The entire health reform process on capital hill is a complete crock.  What we have is a SERIOUS spending problem in Washington DC.  85% of Americans like their health care.  Why doesn&#039;t our Congress attack the actual problems?  There is no health care crisis, but there is an economic crisis created and perpetuated by reckless spending by our elected politicians.  If we want to cuddle up closer to a socialistic form of government and enjoy less freedom and liberty, a government run health care system is just the ticket.  If we want our constitutional freedoms back, then we need to fire all 535 idiots who have taken us to the brink of economic collapse and get some folks in there who cherish decent American values. For future generations to have a chance at prosperity, we have to work to keep government from destroying what&#039;s left of our liberty.  There is a point beyond which the only way to restore our republic to it&#039;s proper status is revolution.  I do not know anyone who wants to go there.  Barack Obama and the Democrat controlled congress are pushing us to that point ever faster.  Ramming this health care reform nonsense down our throats is not helping things - it&#039;s making them worse.  God help us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The entire health reform process on capital hill is a complete crock.  What we have is a SERIOUS spending problem in Washington DC.  85% of Americans like their health care.  Why doesn&#8217;t our Congress attack the actual problems?  There is no health care crisis, but there is an economic crisis created and perpetuated by reckless spending by our elected politicians.  If we want to cuddle up closer to a socialistic form of government and enjoy less freedom and liberty, a government run health care system is just the ticket.  If we want our constitutional freedoms back, then we need to fire all 535 idiots who have taken us to the brink of economic collapse and get some folks in there who cherish decent American values. For future generations to have a chance at prosperity, we have to work to keep government from destroying what&#8217;s left of our liberty.  There is a point beyond which the only way to restore our republic to it&#8217;s proper status is revolution.  I do not know anyone who wants to go there.  Barack Obama and the Democrat controlled congress are pushing us to that point ever faster.  Ramming this health care reform nonsense down our throats is not helping things &#8211; it&#8217;s making them worse.  God help us.</p>
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