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		<title>By: Homeschooler</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/do_homeschooling_moms_need_tea/#comment-134015</link>
		<dc:creator>Homeschooler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 11:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a homeschooler, so what? I enjoy being homeschooled, I watch some of my brothers friends go into school at age ten and come out acting like hoodlums, I think it is better to be homeschooled and not public schooled. Most kids in public school are bullies, disrespectful etc. They go in and come out this way. And you guys are talking about us being socialized, for one, I am socialized; I get plenty of GOOD friends, GODLY friends. You can get a girlfriend in school that is not a Christian, or, you can get one that is respectful, modest, dressed modestly etc. 
I AM A HOMESCHOOLER AND PROUD OF IT!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a homeschooler, so what? I enjoy being homeschooled, I watch some of my brothers friends go into school at age ten and come out acting like hoodlums, I think it is better to be homeschooled and not public schooled. Most kids in public school are bullies, disrespectful etc. They go in and come out this way. And you guys are talking about us being socialized, for one, I am socialized; I get plenty of GOOD friends, GODLY friends. You can get a girlfriend in school that is not a Christian, or, you can get one that is respectful, modest, dressed modestly etc.<br />
I AM A HOMESCHOOLER AND PROUD OF IT!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Homeschooler</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/do_homeschooling_moms_need_tea/#comment-134013</link>
		<dc:creator>Homeschooler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 11:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a homeschooler, so what? I enjoy being homeschooled, I watch some of my brothers friends go into school at age ten and come out acting like hoodlums,I think it is better to be homeschooled and not public schooled. Most kids in public school are bullys, disrespectful etc. They go in and come out this way. And you guys are talking about us being socialzed, for one, I am socialized, i get plenty of GOOD friends, GODLY friends. You can get a girlfriend in school thats not a christian, or, you can get one thats respectful, modest, dressed modestly etc. 

I AM A HOMESCHOOLER AND PROUD OF IT!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a homeschooler, so what? I enjoy being homeschooled, I watch some of my brothers friends go into school at age ten and come out acting like hoodlums,I think it is better to be homeschooled and not public schooled. Most kids in public school are bullys, disrespectful etc. They go in and come out this way. And you guys are talking about us being socialzed, for one, I am socialized, i get plenty of GOOD friends, GODLY friends. You can get a girlfriend in school thats not a christian, or, you can get one thats respectful, modest, dressed modestly etc. </p>
<p>I AM A HOMESCHOOLER AND PROUD OF IT!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Dee Dee</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/do_homeschooling_moms_need_tea/#comment-78942</link>
		<dc:creator>Dee Dee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 04:03:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a teacher in a public school system. Whenever we get students that were homeschooled from K through eighth grades, they are woefully behind as freshmen. Any child would benefit from one-on-one instruction and that is what homeschooling does. However, if the parent doesn&#039;t know the subjects, then it is a total waste of time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a teacher in a public school system. Whenever we get students that were homeschooled from K through eighth grades, they are woefully behind as freshmen. Any child would benefit from one-on-one instruction and that is what homeschooling does. However, if the parent doesn&#8217;t know the subjects, then it is a total waste of time.</p>
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		<title>By: zoom zoom</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/do_homeschooling_moms_need_tea/#comment-65831</link>
		<dc:creator>zoom zoom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 18:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the most part, home schooled children will do well in any environment. They generally live in two parent households who both have college educations. One parent can devote their time entirely to their children while the other parent probably makes a fairly significant salary. It would be more accurate to compare this demographic e.g. two parent families, college educated, devoted parent, etc. to see what advantages or disadvantages home schooling has on a child. Unfortunately, California&#039;s restrictive law does not allow for family choice. The law may uphold the greater good by preventing families unable to educate their children properly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the most part, home schooled children will do well in any environment. They generally live in two parent households who both have college educations. One parent can devote their time entirely to their children while the other parent probably makes a fairly significant salary. It would be more accurate to compare this demographic e.g. two parent families, college educated, devoted parent, etc. to see what advantages or disadvantages home schooling has on a child. Unfortunately, California&#8217;s restrictive law does not allow for family choice. The law may uphold the greater good by preventing families unable to educate their children properly.</p>
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		<title>By: zoom zoom</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/do_homeschooling_moms_need_tea/#comment-65828</link>
		<dc:creator>zoom zoom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 18:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think California&#039;s decision to not allow home schooling may be a lack of resources and oversight. California has a large population so it is fairly difficult for them to ensure that all home schooled children are being educated properly. Parents may use home schooling as a way to circumvent truancy laws.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think California&#8217;s decision to not allow home schooling may be a lack of resources and oversight. California has a large population so it is fairly difficult for them to ensure that all home schooled children are being educated properly. Parents may use home schooling as a way to circumvent truancy laws.</p>
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		<title>By: Who Should Educate the Children at George Street</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/do_homeschooling_moms_need_tea/#comment-32308</link>
		<dc:creator>Who Should Educate the Children at George Street</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 21:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] should be no surprise that the government in California has ruled that parents have no right to educate their own children. Instead, all children between 7 and 18 must be educated by a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Bernardo</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/do_homeschooling_moms_need_tea/#comment-29992</link>
		<dc:creator>Bernardo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 20:59:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The consensus of comments to this point appears to be that the government schools are failing to provide a proper education for our children, mostly because they are too busy providing &quot;socialization&quot; — i.e., individual submission to authority of the state and indoctrination in the political ideologies of the local school boards and/or teachers&#039; unions. 

Why do we continue to fund such a losing cause? How many more generations can we dumb down before we hit bottom?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The consensus of comments to this point appears to be that the government schools are failing to provide a proper education for our children, mostly because they are too busy providing &#8220;socialization&#8221; — i.e., individual submission to authority of the state and indoctrination in the political ideologies of the local school boards and/or teachers&#8217; unions. </p>
<p>Why do we continue to fund such a losing cause? How many more generations can we dumb down before we hit bottom?</p>
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		<title>By: Rafi's mom</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/do_homeschooling_moms_need_tea/#comment-29990</link>
		<dc:creator>Rafi's mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 20:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have homeschooled five of my children for variouslengths of time.  I had help from friends, other parents,and community resources, but precious little from any of the rot I had learned in the &quot;College of Education&quot; in our State Land Grant University.

THe first time I started homeschooling was when my eldest had lost most of her prior knowledge while in Kindergarten and gained non at all, was in a &quot;Montessori&quot; public school program in which she was not permitted to use the materials she needed most (fine motor), and had a teacher whose notes home I was constantly blue-penciling as her ability to write  was laughable.  Oh yes, and  then when my second child who had been in Special Education as a preschooler, got ZERO transition from the school, and in fact their staff managed to FORGET a two hour &quot;transition &quot; meeting...I simply decided &quot;enough.&quot;  It took less time to homeschool those children than it did to fight with the schools so they might do their job.

I spent 6 years homeschooling 4 kids at that time.  All transitioned, at the top of their classes, to a small nonpublic school, and then to larger public high schools.  All have been doing well in University, the eldest is in grad school, second (who had early intervention, graduated with Honors in English (in 7 semesters while working 32 hours a week), third is a Dean&#039;s List Japanese major, currently in Tokyo for Junior Year, and fourth just started as a Freshman and has one Dean&#039;s List semster so far.

Youngest child &quot;needs&quot; special Ed.  Notwithstanding this, he is now at home except for therapies.  The school personnel at his previous placement managed to toilet un-train him and to teach him that the best way to get out of doing work was throwing a big enough hissy fit to distract the licensed personnel.  We are still working to modify these behaviors.

Obviously, from my experience, licensure and socialization are both red herrings.  And I am no kind of religious fanatic, by the way, merely a fairly middle of the road Conservative Jew.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have homeschooled five of my children for variouslengths of time.  I had help from friends, other parents,and community resources, but precious little from any of the rot I had learned in the &#8220;College of Education&#8221; in our State Land Grant University.</p>
<p>THe first time I started homeschooling was when my eldest had lost most of her prior knowledge while in Kindergarten and gained non at all, was in a &#8220;Montessori&#8221; public school program in which she was not permitted to use the materials she needed most (fine motor), and had a teacher whose notes home I was constantly blue-penciling as her ability to write  was laughable.  Oh yes, and  then when my second child who had been in Special Education as a preschooler, got ZERO transition from the school, and in fact their staff managed to FORGET a two hour &#8220;transition &#8221; meeting&#8230;I simply decided &#8220;enough.&#8221;  It took less time to homeschool those children than it did to fight with the schools so they might do their job.</p>
<p>I spent 6 years homeschooling 4 kids at that time.  All transitioned, at the top of their classes, to a small nonpublic school, and then to larger public high schools.  All have been doing well in University, the eldest is in grad school, second (who had early intervention, graduated with Honors in English (in 7 semesters while working 32 hours a week), third is a Dean&#8217;s List Japanese major, currently in Tokyo for Junior Year, and fourth just started as a Freshman and has one Dean&#8217;s List semster so far.</p>
<p>Youngest child &#8220;needs&#8221; special Ed.  Notwithstanding this, he is now at home except for therapies.  The school personnel at his previous placement managed to toilet un-train him and to teach him that the best way to get out of doing work was throwing a big enough hissy fit to distract the licensed personnel.  We are still working to modify these behaviors.</p>
<p>Obviously, from my experience, licensure and socialization are both red herrings.  And I am no kind of religious fanatic, by the way, merely a fairly middle of the road Conservative Jew.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris R.</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/do_homeschooling_moms_need_tea/#comment-29603</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 05:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There was a time when I thought homeschooling was generally inferior to public or private schools. I changed my mind in the early 1990&#039;s when gangs started appearing in high schools where I lived at the time.

I don&#039;t have any children yet, but the security problems alone at public schools would prevent me from sending my kids. My wife and I are planning to start a family this year and we&#039;ve already decided to go with homeschooling and private schools. I would never live in California but if my state of Texas passed a law banning homeschooling, I would simply not obey. I would fight them in various courts and by the time they got through my attorneys, my kids would have graduated college and it would be a moot point.

Parents have many reasons for homeschooling their children and the state has no business legislating what parents may or may not do in their homes.

Here&#039;s a hypothetical concerning the so-called YouTube attack in Florida last month:
A 16-year old girl, an honor roll student and varsity cheerleader was savagely beaten by 8 fellow students just so they could get some video of the beating to post on YouTube. Her parents have announced that she will be homeschooled for the remainder of her high school career.
If they lived in California, would her parents be criminals for homeschooling their daughter? Would they actually compound the injustice of her attack with another injustice of going after her parents?

Any CA state legislators and education officials who support the homeschooling ban should be made to attend public school classes in South Central Los Angeles for one week. I&#039;m quite sure that experience would change their minds, if they made it back home in one piece.

The security situation alone is compelling enough to drive parents toward homeschooling. There are many other compelling reasons for parents to shun public schools. Parents need to have every available educational option open to them because the government at all levels is failing badly when it comes to educating our kids. Having that same government take away options is just plain wrong, and it reeks of socialism. As usual, it&#039;s up to voters to elect responsible leaders instead of socialist morons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was a time when I thought homeschooling was generally inferior to public or private schools. I changed my mind in the early 1990&#8242;s when gangs started appearing in high schools where I lived at the time.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have any children yet, but the security problems alone at public schools would prevent me from sending my kids. My wife and I are planning to start a family this year and we&#8217;ve already decided to go with homeschooling and private schools. I would never live in California but if my state of Texas passed a law banning homeschooling, I would simply not obey. I would fight them in various courts and by the time they got through my attorneys, my kids would have graduated college and it would be a moot point.</p>
<p>Parents have many reasons for homeschooling their children and the state has no business legislating what parents may or may not do in their homes.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a hypothetical concerning the so-called YouTube attack in Florida last month:<br />
A 16-year old girl, an honor roll student and varsity cheerleader was savagely beaten by 8 fellow students just so they could get some video of the beating to post on YouTube. Her parents have announced that she will be homeschooled for the remainder of her high school career.<br />
If they lived in California, would her parents be criminals for homeschooling their daughter? Would they actually compound the injustice of her attack with another injustice of going after her parents?</p>
<p>Any CA state legislators and education officials who support the homeschooling ban should be made to attend public school classes in South Central Los Angeles for one week. I&#8217;m quite sure that experience would change their minds, if they made it back home in one piece.</p>
<p>The security situation alone is compelling enough to drive parents toward homeschooling. There are many other compelling reasons for parents to shun public schools. Parents need to have every available educational option open to them because the government at all levels is failing badly when it comes to educating our kids. Having that same government take away options is just plain wrong, and it reeks of socialism. As usual, it&#8217;s up to voters to elect responsible leaders instead of socialist morons.</p>
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		<title>By: FP</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/do_homeschooling_moms_need_tea/#comment-29572</link>
		<dc:creator>FP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 03:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;Kenny said 
&quot;Socialism DOES NOT WORK! Period. Not in business, not in government, and most certainly not in any school system.&quot;
&gt;

&quot;Socialism&quot; --or any system (read civlization&#039;s caste structure) --isn&#039;t suppose to work [read solve problems(tm)]. It is simply a tool for acheiving power and _more niches for more bureaucrats_ (all in a kind of non self aware darwinst hive structure way). And in that regard it does works.

It can more accurately be said that &#039;capitalism/democracy/freedom/liberty (and etc)&#039; doesn&#039;t work, for they are always easily hijacked by some form of socialism (read protectionist propganda and bio-determinist-middle-man/runt conspiracy) before the acrid smoke of revolution has dissipated and the ink of constitution is dry.

Freedom /liberty etc simply means _temporary_ success for those that ran away from civilization&#039;s inherent caste to some outback. There they found &quot;freedom&quot;. 

...Until that which they ran away from (the caste of civil society -- whatever its zeitgheist excuse/mandate that generation) --that which they brought with them-- catches up to their island.

...So in the end one gets to pick their &#039;socialism&#039; (read &#039;advocacy protectionist demagouery : priest class and &#039;gubmint&#039;): socialsm from the &#039;right&#039; [male, intelligent, native, adult, &#039;healthy&#039;], or socialism from the left [female, migrant, childish, &#039;ill&#039;].

The only way to stop &quot;socialism&quot; (what you really mean is &#039;feminism, non white immigration, and similar &#039;modern liberal&#039; things --things you, through the profound mental condition that is american patriotism/conservatism falsly ascribe to &#039;sovietism&#039; _which had non of that_) is to beat it to the punch&#039;; to prevent liberal priests/protectionist demagogues from propagandizing to your sheep --because you&#039;ll corral them, &quot;for their own good&quot;, first.

The &quot;great experiment&quot; that is america has proved this. That might be its one and only gift to posterity... An example of failure. And therefor a road map for how to avoid it next time &#039;round.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;Kenny said<br />
&#8220;Socialism DOES NOT WORK! Period. Not in business, not in government, and most certainly not in any school system.&#8221;<br />
&gt;</p>
<p>&#8220;Socialism&#8221; &#8211;or any system (read civlization&#8217;s caste structure) &#8211;isn&#8217;t suppose to work [read solve problems(tm)]. It is simply a tool for acheiving power and _more niches for more bureaucrats_ (all in a kind of non self aware darwinst hive structure way). And in that regard it does works.</p>
<p>It can more accurately be said that &#8216;capitalism/democracy/freedom/liberty (and etc)&#8217; doesn&#8217;t work, for they are always easily hijacked by some form of socialism (read protectionist propganda and bio-determinist-middle-man/runt conspiracy) before the acrid smoke of revolution has dissipated and the ink of constitution is dry.</p>
<p>Freedom /liberty etc simply means _temporary_ success for those that ran away from civilization&#8217;s inherent caste to some outback. There they found &#8220;freedom&#8221;. </p>
<p>&#8230;Until that which they ran away from (the caste of civil society &#8212; whatever its zeitgheist excuse/mandate that generation) &#8211;that which they brought with them&#8211; catches up to their island.</p>
<p>&#8230;So in the end one gets to pick their &#8216;socialism&#8217; (read &#8216;advocacy protectionist demagouery : priest class and &#8216;gubmint&#8217;): socialsm from the &#8216;right&#8217; [male, intelligent, native, adult, 'healthy'], or socialism from the left [female, migrant, childish, 'ill'].</p>
<p>The only way to stop &#8220;socialism&#8221; (what you really mean is &#8216;feminism, non white immigration, and similar &#8216;modern liberal&#8217; things &#8211;things you, through the profound mental condition that is american patriotism/conservatism falsly ascribe to &#8216;sovietism&#8217; _which had non of that_) is to beat it to the punch&#8217;; to prevent liberal priests/protectionist demagogues from propagandizing to your sheep &#8211;because you&#8217;ll corral them, &#8220;for their own good&#8221;, first.</p>
<p>The &#8220;great experiment&#8221; that is america has proved this. That might be its one and only gift to posterity&#8230; An example of failure. And therefor a road map for how to avoid it next time &#8217;round.</p>
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