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Democrats Disgrace Themselves in Ohio

Party officials attack Iraq War vets in closely watched races.

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Patrick Poole

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November 2, 2008 - 12:00 am
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As most attention on the battleground state of Ohio has been focused on the presidential race, the battle for control of the statehouse and Congress has flared up in the Buckeye State.

But in two particular races featuring Republican candidates who are Iraq War veterans, the Democratic Party apparatus and their left-wing allies have launched vicious attacks incredibly questioning their commitment to serve the people.

On Monday, journalist Joel Mowbray published an article looking at the state representative race between Republican incumbent Josh Mandel and Democrat Bob Belovich. Mandel won the Ohio 17th seat in November 2006 in a longshot bid in a heavily Democratic district, but he had to take a leave of absence from the legislature when he was called up for a second tour in Iraq, which he completed earlier this year.

According to Mowbray’s research, Belovich has openly criticized Mandel for his military service during the legislative term, with his wife, Barbara, saying publicly that Mandel “went AWOL” on his constituents by returning to Iraq. Mowbray also reports that an audio clip of the Democratic couple revealed that attacking Mandel for his military service was a critical component to their election strategy:

At a Progressive Majority event in Cleveland this July, Mr. and Mrs. Belovich laid out their campaign blueprint for defeating Mandel. “[Mandel] feels that his obligation to George Bush is stronger than his, you know, his obligation to the people in the 17th District,” Barbara Belovich said.

To make matters worse, Bob Belovich added that Mandel was elected in 2006 because of his “blue sign” and his “Jewish name.” When Mowbray spoke with Belovich, he defended his openly anti-Semitic remarks by launching into a five-minute diatribe about the voting habits of Jewish voters in his district.

But Democratic Party officials haven’t limited their attacks on Iraq veterans to statehouse races. In one of the most closely watched congressional races nationally in the Ohio 15th District, Republican Steve Stivers and Democrat Mary Jo Kilroy are squaring off to replace retiring Rep. Deborah Pryce, a Republican. In the 2006 cycle, Kilroy barely lost her bid to knock off Pryce in an election year when Democrats surged in Ohio.

To help buoy Kilroy’s chances, the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (DCCC) has poured mountains of cash — $280,000 in just the past two weeks and another $600,000 reserved for this last week alone — into the race to flip the Ohio 15th seat from red to blue. The DCCC is running television ads attacking Stivers, telling voters that the current state senator is “not on your side” — a claim that flies in the face of Stivers’ 23-year military service in the Ohio Army National Guard (where he currently holds the rank of lieutenant colonel), including a one-year tour in Iraq where he was awarded a Bronze Star.

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  1. 1. KansasGirl

    Pure evil.

  2. 2. Kathy L.

    Dems diss U.S. military and veterans, that isn’t new. During Clinton admin, our military pay was so bad,the military was on food stamps, with sorry equipment, had to scavenge parts from one piece of equipment to keep another one going. Pres. Bush made sure they have good pay, the best of weapons, second to none. Obama didn’t have faith in our military, didn’t think we could prevail in Iraq. When he went to Europe to perform before the world stage, he could have visited our wounded troops in the hospital in Germany, but didn’t go, because he couldn’t take his entourage on a photo op. This guy doesn’t deserve to be Commander in Chief. The economy isn’t doing well, but we can fix that if we work together, pull together. If Obama gets in, and erodes our rights, like freedom of speech (Joe the Plumber),Freedom of the press (the tv reporter in Orlando, FL that Obama/Biden shut out, the reporters kicked off Obama plane because their newspapers endorsed McCain)(shades of the Soviet Union, shudder). We all better hold onto our guns and religion, because if Obama gets in, they are coming for those next. And if Obama gets in by buying the election, cheating his way in by his thug/cronies at ACORN, turning a blind eye to radical associates, as long as they helped him on his march to the White House, you better believe I WILL be bitter.

  3. 3. Eric R.

    For Democrats and other leftists, there is no such thing as disgrace if they get into power to create their radical egalitarian Utopia. None.

    The Democrats did not murder 100 million people, but they never had a problem dealing with those on the left who did. (Except for Nazis, whom they have magically brainwashed everyone into thinking were rightists.)

    If you can dismiss the murder of 100 million people in the name of your leftist faith, what problem is it to destroy Joe the Plumber’s life, or trashing a war veteran?

    They are beyond shame. And after January 20, we will really see how brutal, savage and ruthless they will be here in America to those of us who dare to question the Great Leader.

    It will start with the shutting down of dissenting voices in talk radio. It won’t stop there.

  4. 4. pez

    Eric

    You conservatives really are beside yourself with the prospect of losing.

    The invective is becoming more and more outlandish as we near the day.

    “If you can dismiss the murder of 100 million people in the name of your leftist faith”

    Oh dear.

    I will be kind and say that the prospect of years of being cast into the political wilderness brings out the worst in you.

  5. 5. Jabba The Tutt

    So, when can we question their patriotism? They questions ours all the time. And Pez, you are nothing more than a political hack out for political power by any means. You’d make a good concentration camp administrator.

  6. 6. Boris

    “You’d make a good concentration camp administrator.”

    Way to insult the memory of the six million, you douchebag.

  7. 7. pez

    Lol

    I think there are differences between questioning patrotism, which is fair enough, and accusing the democrats, along with left leaning people with genocide.

    but you go on to prove my point….

    “And Pez, you are nothing more than a political hack out for political power by any means. You’d make a good concentration camp administrator”

    Concentration Camp Admin?, Dear me, see what i mean

  8. 8. susan

    isn’t it ironic that the “warmongers” as you leftist call them saved the jews in europe while you leftist are more into dialogue and negotiations?

    So boris and pez, was it better to sit down with hitler?

    Your ignorance knows no boundaries as your shame is without limits.

  9. 9. Dave R

    And are you as outraged by the verbal attacks on vets against the war, or vets for Obama. I remember back a few years a vet who had lost a number of limbs protested and baby Bush’s ranch and was ripped to shreds voices from the right. Give it up, you ain’t no better.

  10. 10. Cal Observer

    Hmmmm…. Kind of makes you slip back in time and remember the Max Cleland–Saxby Chamblis disgrace doesn’t it. Now the fact that the republicans are perfectly willing to doubt the patriotism of everyone who disagrees with them is not an excuse for this kind of behavior…but lets face it, there is far more of this on the right than on the left….ie Bachman, Palin, etc

  11. 11. Eric R.

    Pez:

    The leftist leadership in this country, be it in the DNC, the MSM, publishing, academia, or the arts, has no problem turning Marxists into award-winning writers, playwrights, esteemed journalists, and considering them as colleagues and friends.

    In fact, the “elite” would rather socialize with mass murdering Communists than with Republicans. And in fact do.

    They have whitewashed and absolutely covered up the crimes of Stalin, Mao, Kim Il Sung, Pol Pot and Castro (and how many of them have made pilgrimages to kiss the butt of the last one?).

    This is a fact. College faculty will give tenure to Marxists, but not to Republicans. If you are not with a conservative printing house, Republicans don’t get books published, but Communists do. And don’t even think about breaking into Hollywood if you are to the right of Lenin.

    Jabba the Tut:

    I was thinking more in terms of him as a guard in the Gulag. After all, the fact that he sees conservatives like me as mentally ill would have placed Pez squarely in the maintream of thought in the Party of the old USSR.

  12. 12. Eric R.

    Cal Observer:

    Let me get this straight. We have no right to question the patriotism of the Democrats, but the Democrats, (who regularly use their almost dictatorial control of the MSM, academia and Hollywood to cast us as a bunch of racist, sexist, homophobic, stupid, gun-totin’, bible-bashin’ neanderthals) have every right to question our patriotism, our morality, our sanity and our intelligence without us objecting?

    Sorry, I’m not buying your double standard.

    I question the left’s patriotism. If you’re upset about that, grow a thicker skin.

  13. 13. tom scott

    Having taken a “no new taxes” pledge in the 2004 election, Kilroy was no sooner in office than she voted for a $200 million tax increase on Franklin County families.

    Fish swim, birds fly, democrats tax.

  14. 14. Boris

    “So boris and pez, was it better to sit down with hitler?”

    Ask FDR, Democrat and father of social security–you know, socialism.

  15. 15. johnny

    You are all so wasting yor time, re-hashing all this 50-year old, wothless, ideological garbage.
    Communism,socialism, that sh*t is all so-oo-oo passe.
    Try to remember, the lot of you, that we are now living in the 21st century. Try to stop fighting the war, that ended a decade or so, ago. Get over your petty jingositic agendas.

  16. 16. Donna V.

    The Democrats know the contempt they feel for the military goes both ways. Perhaps not at Colin Powell’s level, but certainly among the rank and file. Hence, their attempts to suppress the military vote.

    I am not a paranoid person and hold little truck with conspiracy theorists of any sort, whether they are JFK assasination buffs, people who foam at the mouth about black helicopters, ZOG and the Trilateral Commission or 9/11 “Truthers.”

    That said, alarm bells go off in my head when Obama talks about setting up a domestic security force. Obama knows that if push comes to shove and it’s the military vs. the Left, the Left will lose in 5 minutes. While today the preferred weapons are lawyers and friendly judges, the Left recognize that ultimately political power lies in the barrel of a gun, as Mao said. So Obama wants an armed domestic cadre which would be loyal to him – and would also assist the Democrats in disarming the population.

    Let’s face it, the Dems see the bitter rednecks clinging to their guns and Bibles as a much greater threat than Iran and Russia and al Queda. So they will cut the military budget while touting the need for more domestic security. “Domestic security” will not mean stemming the flow of illegal immigrants (like Obama’s aunt) but making sure the rest of us toe the party line.

    I doubt they’ll be blatant about it. No, our liberties are going to be taken from us very adroitly, with the MSM there to provide spin. And then one day, there will be a knock on the door, and the “domestic security force” will be there to inform you that the records should you own 2 registered handguns and either you turn them in now or face arrest.

    Sounds crazy? Wait a few years.

  17. 17. susan

    Boris has voted “present” on an issue. I should have known better.

    It does suck to be a part of your family.

  18. THE SENATOR FOR MCCAIN VS THE GENERAL FOR OBAMA

    Listen closely, think carefully, abandon any emotional investment or agenda partisanship and do the right thing for the country on Tuesday.

    http://greensrealworld.blogspot.com/2008/11/senator-for-mccain-vs-general-for-obama.html

  19. 19. Cal Observer

    Eric R

    Maybe a little remedial reading would help you… I pointed out that your sides patriotism bashing is no excuse for democrats patriotism bashing… It would help if you actually thought about what a destructive thing it is for our country when either side accuses the other side of “wanting to loose a war…”, not being real americans, being unpatriotic and the like.

    As to your thoughts about the MSM… I actually find that a little hilarious. Perhaps you remember who used to be the darling of the Press…that would be John McCain. Perhaps you have forgotten that Fox News runs a 24 hour per day commercial for the Republican Party. The MSM is owned by and operated for CAPITALISTS… Maybe if your side came up with some better ideas there would be more coverage. Finally, as far as your side being racist, homophobic and bible bashing…nobody here thinks you all are, but I think you’d be hard pressed to deny that there is plenty of that over on the right. Anyway…peace and love to you from Calif…

  20. 20. howler

    It is a matter of fact that more people have been killed, displaced and harassed by leftist governments than by all the right wing dictatorships put together. If the left represents a need to right the wrongs of the past, imagined or real. why then have so many paid for it with their lives.

  21. This is disgraceful, but not surprising.

  22. 22. Claire Solt

    How paranoid does someone have to be to interpret a compliment on someone’s patriotism as a criticism of someone else? If you want to be patriotic, go ahead. It is ridiculous to insist that everyone is, though.

  23. 23. cccc

    The left will not win Ohio. Lifelong union democrats are refusing to vote for Obama here in SE and SW Ohio and are planning to vote straight republican because of the actions of Strickland and Brunner. They can count on being voted out too in 2010. Hillary voters here in Ohiohve no forgot what their party did to them and it’s payback time on Tuesday. McCain/Palin 2008!

  24. 24. Bill in NY

    the old maxim, “every time they open their mouths, they expose their own ignorance” comes to mind. Note to dems: be careful what you wish for, you might get it. I don’t think you’ll win the Presidency and the super majority the MSM says you will win, I think you’re in for a big surprise on Tuesday. But, if you do, it will be the beginning of the end for the Democrat Party.

  25. 25. gardel va

    It’s just hilarious to hear conservatives complaining about Democrats denigrating Republicans’ military service. Does anyone remember swiftboating? How about the grotesque slanders against Max Clelland in Georgia? You folks just can’t seem to handle that the Rovian lowering of the level of discourse has come around to bite you — and will keep on biting until you stop basing campaigns on slander.

  26. 26. justperceptions

    Be afraid. Push your worthless idealism, and demonize the OTHERS.

    Free-market capitalism is flawed idealism– go ask Greenspan.

    We are a socialistic capitalist democracy. That’s way different than OPPRESSIVE SOCIALISM.

    The reason MSM has been so negative about McCain is because he has fabricated viscous distortions and out and out lies about Obama and Obama’s policies. He’s a progressive centrist. It’s easy to see that if you read up. Yet, we don’t really know the REAL Barack Hussein Obama. Is he a socialist muslim terrorist sympathizing smooth talking sheister?

    I don’t see anything like this coming from the left, therefore, I question the patriotism of John McCain. I question his motives for wanting to be president. He has done nothing in his campaign but unscrupulously attack Obama’s character and image. He has not made his case as to why he wants to lead this country other than that he was tapped by the Republican political machine. I believe he is a self-proclaimed maverick because he knows it’s political favorable, and that when “tapped” he got lockstep with the current administration. That’s what McCain appropriately called “the reverse maverick” on SNL. A patriot has a sense of purpose that drives a vision of their service to their country. John McCain has appealed to the most base and appalling elements of humanity to try and defeat a political rival. This undermines any purposeful vision of a democracy.

    Barack Obama has earned every vote that he gets on November 4th without using tactics of animosity.

  27. 27. justperceptions

    HOWLER: Fascism and Authoritarianism and imperialism are the reasons for such atrocities. The ideal that this is what the LEFT is all about is absurd. The American Left is not FASCIST nor AUTHORITARIAN nor IMPERIALISTS.

    In fact, they are accused of being “too weak”– suggesting that they should be more imperialistic to protect America’s interests. Again imperialism nor isolationism are viable in the emergent world.

  28. 28. Are you kidding?

    This is reprehensible behavior on the part of these two candidates, there is no questioning that. But the idea that Republicans are crying foul as if they have never done anything like this is utterly hypocritical.

    Wasn’t it just four years ago that Bush, Rove, and the Swift Boat veterans went out of their way to discredit John Kerry’s military service?

    Bottom line is, both sides have a number of disgusting campaign strategies that discredit military service, Christian faith, and personal matters. The only way anyone can actually put a stop to this is with a “novel concept” – to vote on the issues and who serves the greater good of their constituencies, not these overblown, usually irrelevant campaign attacks that really only sway those who don’t pay much attention overall.

    Bill Clinton was a terrible husband but a strong president. I have no reason to believe that George W. Bush is anything but a good husband and father, but has been a horrible president. What really mattered was how they governed, not what happened in their personal lives.

  29. 29. myth buster

    Ironically, the closest the Republicans ever came to acting like Nazis was signing on to this bailout bill. Corporate bailouts and strong arming is what fascists do. Socialists are more blunt- if someone isn’t cooperative, they just confiscate their assets and make sure that everyone knows what happens to uncooperative people.

    This is insane. We don’t have Republicans and Democrats anymore; we have the National Socialist Party of America and the American Socialist Party, and neither will tolerate dissent from its ranks.

  30. 30. 6G9

    If it’s illegal, corrupt or unethical, the Democrats will do it and somehow, with the aid of their propoganda machine aka the MSM and their lemming supporteres, justify their actions with further lies and subterfuge. The corruption of the 1930′s has returned to American politics on the part of the Democrats and their supporters. This election is nothing but a massive grab for aboslute power by a totalitarian leaning left wing dominated Democratic Party. God help this nation, we might be in big, big trouble come Wednesday morning, if Obama, Pelosi and Reid are in power. The American freedoms and liberties we have taken for granted since the beginning of American materialism and greed in the 50′s are going the way of all things neglected and ignored. People have given up the ideals which made this country wonderful and great in the name of selfishness, self-centered motives and short-sightendness. Higher taxes, curtailment of free speech, disrespect for our veterans (including lies about their service and accomplishments) have become the mantra for the Dems. The popularity of the socialist Dems is a shameful state of affairs in this country. We may well get what we deserve. A power hungry left wing elite who will turn this country into a socialist state come hell or high water and no matter how low they have to stoop to do it. God speed to our veterans in their combat actions overseas and in the fight for a voice in the government at home.

  31. 31. Donna V.

    HOWLER: Fascism and Authoritarianism and imperialism are the reasons for such atrocities. The ideal that this is what the LEFT is all about is absurd

    I guess Stalin and Mao and Castro and the Khmer Rouge (all of whom were big proponents of “spreading the wealth around”) were Republicans. Gee, who knew?

    Obama might win because his followers are ahistorical illiterates – who have the nerve to think they’re smarter than everybody else.

  32. 32. Donna V.

    Does anyone remember swiftboating?

    Sure do. I call it telling the truth about the Democratic candidate, because the media won’t.

    Actually, I think what offended many Vietnam vets about Kerry was not his (disputed) account of his service, but the not insignificant fact that once back, he slandered other troops as murdering hordes of savages. As one veteran put it “A WWII veteran once said that he was no hero, but he was surrounded by heroes. Kerry would have us believe that he was a hero surrounded by war criminals.”

    The only veterans acceptable to the Dems are those who denigrate the past and present objectives of the military. Murtha served heroically in Vietnam, but don’t worry, he’s made up for that character flaw by slandering the veterans of the present war. When Jim Webb’s name was being bandied about this summer as a possible VP pick, much of the Democratic commentary about him was negative. Webb is against the Iraq War, but is insufficiently contrite about his service in Vietnam, and for many Dems (and maybe Obama himself), that made Webb an unacceptable choice.

  33. 33. tateysgrandma

    Democrats are NOT anti-military. Everyone should realize that the military is necessary for the DEFENSE of OUR country and should be used for little else. If there were no oil in the middle east, the US government wouldn’t give a S@*t what was going on there.

  34. 34. Cal Observer

    Donna—

    Amazing how you can twist the reality that is all around you in that twisted little mind…
    You Webb comments are a little strange…
    Jim Webb happened to get elected to the United States Senate by, of all people, DEMOCRATS!

    But I guess that doesn’t matter to you. The truth is that the veterans POLITICALLY acceptable to democrats are those who disagree with the invasion of Iraq. Well, knowing what we all know now, it is a little irrational to continue supporting the invasion. There are plenty of democrats who support using the troops to hunt down and eliminate the terrorists who attacked us–including Obama.

    Lastly, your weird definition of swiftboating is amazing… If you think the swiftboat ads were about the fact that Kerry came back and told Congress and the American people about war crimes he claimed were occuring in Vietnam, then you must not have seen the ads. The ads were pure hit pieces about his SERVICE…not his political positions. So Blah Blah Blah…apparantly the only veterans that you can find any respect for are those in the tank with you…Why don’t we respect all veterans? And why don’t we rationally agree that sitting in the cockpit of a fighter waiting to be sent to Cuba has nothing to do with being prepared to be president.

  35. 35. Vet

    Obami wants his 250’000 civilian defense force.

    Good luck trying to get them to dispach overseas for a combat engagment.

    /Let the anointed one fight the next war himself.

    ***waving his magic wand.****

  36. Are we surprised that politicians swing to their lobbyists? Democrats with unions, republicans with the NRA. Does it matter? YES. Lobbying, is the highest evil in our democracy. If democracy can be bought, we DO NOT HAVE A DEMOCRACY.

    Why aren’t we putting these lobbyists to death? Don’t the interfere with the rights of citizens versus the rights granted to them for representational government by the constitution? Isn’t that document still important to anyone out there? Or are they all too busy watching CNN repeat itself every 15 minutes with an out on Paris Hilton after the break.

    And, as far as the military, maybe that guy SHOULD have said no to going into those wars. That’s the problem with federated militaries that aren’t national guards, they blindly charge off into whatever whenever someone tells them to. Why? It’s not for service. I didn’t ask, or would like you to, or am willing to pay for a war in Iraq of Afghanistan. Don’t do me any favors; you have a death wish, go race cars in the rain to feel important.

    Try standing up for yourself, not acting indoctrinated like a robot, and saying NO once in awhile.

  37. 37. nlcatter

    I am a vet and would gladly sign up to defend my country

    when you GOP MORONS sit on you hands.

  38. 38. David

    Very interesting piece, and typically vitriolic comments from anonymous partisans.

    Regardless of political campaign tactics, no one can reasonably assert that just because a person serves in the military, they have a right to ignore the needs of their constituents.

    I personally believe that the commentary on authoritarianism in the comments section is more telling than the article itself. Dredging up the Nazis, the 1930′s and the specter of communism is grand and all, but if you want evidence of authoritarianism in the good ol’ USA, just set your wayback machine to December 2000.

    Since the SCOTUS overstepped the bounds of the Constitution, we have watched GWB put into practice his mantra “so long as I am the dictator”. Suspension of Habeas Corpus has set us back much farther than the 1930′s – we’ve been invited to reminisce about the 1300s! There is no place in the modern world for such authoritarianism, regardless of party affiliation.

    McCain would have us all believe that he is an agent of change, but truly he would only move us farther down the dark path that GWB has set us on. Ballooning federal debt that crushes the economy, increased concentration of wealth, and the elimination of constitutional rights. You have no rights as far as the Republican ticket is concerned. Country first, right?

    Sorry, but the USA is supposed to be about “We the People” – and I believe that this election is about putting the “People First”. Sayonara John McCain, thanks for playing.

  39. 39. Donna V.

    Everyone should realize that the military is necessary for the DEFENSE of OUR country and should be used for little else.

    Uh, tell that to Bill Clinton, who sent troops to Somalia, Kosovo, and Haiti. I don’t think the Dems are anti-military when A. the CinC is a Democrat and B. when we send troops to a place where we have absolutely no national interest. If Barry sends troops to Darfur, there will be no protests from the left.

    So Cal: “Strange” “twisted” “bizarre” yup, that precisely sums up the attitude of the Democrats who refuse to believe the surge worked and are ready to snatch defeat right out of the jaws of victory. Such an attitude is a great insult to our troops and undos all the progress they have made over there and renders their sacrifices meaningless.

    As for Kerry, I recall corresponding with a veteran who said he would crawl over ground glass to vote against Kerry and all the members of his VFW post felt the same way. The man lived in Ohio.

    Face it, the military, as a whole, is conservative. And Democrats know it, which is why they try to have military votes discounted and treat military people with such contempt. I read the milblogs from time to time. I don’t see a lot of Obama fans among them.

    nlcatter: I don’t believe a word you write and believe you are about 14.

  40. 40. Canada Corner

    “43. David:

    Very interesting piece, and typically vitriolic comments from anonymous partisans…but if you want evidence of authoritarianism in the good ol’ USA, just set your wayback machine to December 2000.

    Since the SCOTUS overstepped the bounds of the Constitution, we have watched GWB put into practice his mantra “so long as I am the dictator”. Suspension of Habeas Corpus has set us back much farther than the 1930’s – we’ve been invited to reminisce about the 1300s!…the elimination of constitutional rights. You have no rights as far as the Republican ticket is concerned. Country first, right?

    Sorry, but the USA is supposed to be about “We the People” – and I believe that this election is about putting the “People First”. Sayonara John McCain, thanks for playing.

    Nov 2, 2008 – 7:30 pm”

    Thanks nonanonymous partisan.

  41. 41. braininahat

    Dems have no idea what “country first” means.

  42. 42. michael

    Canada Corner- Our constitution is quite sound, it applies to American citizens. Do you find yourself ever having to be careful about what you say in Canada? How does it feel up there to have the ‘thought police’ monitoring your speech?

    Also, if you had a military up there that could defend your nation, we could spend a little less on our defense budget.

  43. 43. cajunGuy

    Yesery,

    Dem Dems is ruinin this great land. Thems woulndn’t be able to tell a gator from a possum or an O’possum if he frum Irelin. I recun mcain could tell if a possum was irish. Yesery, I do not like that other man on account of him being Mabus. Hellfires gone be upon us. Lorda mercy.

  44. 44. Believer

    If we believe what BO has told us, he would have a civilian force every bit as well-funded as our military. He wants, in fact, to draw down much of the funding for our military. And our national defense.

    He instead prefers what many of us think is actually beyond creepy and too reminiscent of Nazi Germany’s brownshirts. We’ve seen the videos of his ‘followers.’

    The Democrats’ repeated dissing of our men and women in uniform is beyond disgusting. No one did it better than BO himself in Germany.

    Most unconscionable are their attempts – many times successful – to disallow their vote. This year many overseas troops’ ballots are being thrown out because they didn’t fill in an item THAT WAS DELETED that would give the address of the person witnessing their vote. Convenient, no?

    Not one citizen has more right than they to have a voice in choosing our next Commander-in-Chief.

    It sickens me that they’re treated so shabbily. If for no other reason, Americans should vote for McCain just to give voice to those that the Democrats would silence — our beloved troops.

  45. 45. Glenda

    VOTE MCCAIN/PALIN FOR THE SAKE OF OUR GREAT NATION! PLEASE REMEMBER, WE WILL BE TESTED FOR OBAMA’S METTLE IF HE WINS THE PRESIDENCY. ONE STEP CLOSER TO ARMAGEDDON? PLEASE REMEMBER OBAMA WILL RAISE TAXES ON SMALL AND LARGE BUSINESSES AND WE WILL LOOSE MANY JOBS. ONE STEP CLOSER TO HIGHER UNEMPLOYMENT, WELFARE STATE! PLEASE VOTE FOR THE TESTED AND EXPERIENCED, NOT THE UNTESTED AND INEXPERIENCED – WE CAN’T AFFORD IT, NOR CAN THE WORLD! FIGHT FOR YOUR RIGHTS. VOTE MCCAIN/PALIN!

  46. Obama seems to suffering from the Narcissistic Personality Disorder. This makes him susceptible to manipulative advisers and perhaps to an inability to listen to others when their advice counters his preconceptions. Napoleon may have had this problem too.

    Here’s a summary from the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual (DSM-IV-TR) of the American Psychiatric Association for Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

    A narcissist…1. Has a sense of self-importance – may exaggerate achievements and talents, has a superior attitude, 2.Fantasizes excessively about success, power, brilliance, beauty or ideal love, 3. Believes he or she is “special” and can only relate to other special or high-status people, 4. Requires excessive admiration, 5. Feels entitled to special treatment and expects people to do what he or she wants, 6. Exploits people – takes advantage of others to meet his or her own needs, 7. Lacks empathy – does not recognize the feelings or needs or others, 8. Envies others or believes that others are envious of him or her, 9. Has an arrogant or haughty attitude.

  47. 47. jerry R

    Liberals will say and do anything to gain control and power. The simple reason is that they have no moral compass. Thus, they feel anything is acceptable. Look at their lives and their platforms….simple, no morals..No God….

  48. 48. kevin c

    HEY PEZ-IF YOU WANT A GOOD CONCENTRATION CAMP.IM SURE YOUR COMMIE PALS CHAVEZ AND CASTRO CAN ARRANGE ONE FOR YOU. I BELEIVE SOLSHENITZYN CALLED THEM GULAGS. MEANWHILE,MAYBE YOU CAN NAME SOMEPLACE IN THE LOWER 48 THAT HAS BEEN TRANFORMED INTO A GW BUSH CONCENTRATION CAMP. IVE TRIED HARD,BUT SOMEHOW IVE FAILED TO FIND ONE. IM SURE WITH YOUR COMMIE PAL COMRADE OBAMACOMMIE I WONT HAVE TO LOOK FAR.

  49. 49. kevin c

    DO YOU KNOW GOV STRICKLANDS OUT CAMPAIGN MAAGER FROM WHEN HE RAN FOR CONGRESS IS SUPPORTING MCCAIN/PALIN? HE SAYS THE SAME THING ABOUT THE DIMWITS THAT REAGAN ONCE SAID. “I DIDNT LEAVE THEM,THEY LEFT ME”. WHEN QUESTIONED, HE SAID IN NO UNCERTAIN TERMS” I CANNOT SUPPORT A HARDCORE MARXIST”. STRONG WORDS FROM A MAN WHO HAS RAN OVER 300 DEMONRAT CAMPAIGNS.

  50. 50. Believer

    “…the military is necessary for the DEFENSE of OUR country and should be used for little else.”

    Well, get ready, Granny, if your guy wins:

    for his civilian military necessary for the DEFENSE of HIS corrupt regime.

  51. 51. Dave

    Some seriously twisted people from the left posting here. Their party actually runs a campaign against a congressman criticizing him for serving our country in Iraq, and the righteous outrage posted here is somehow the real problem.

    You don’t need to question a persons patriotism when they show a complete lack of it on their own.

  52. Civilian National Security Force

    Well it’s not really so scary because he’s already said he’s going to cut the military by 25% right? That only means 750 billion or so in real spending for the Civilian Force. Chump change, right? What is so threatening about that? Assuming that past behavior can sometimes be a reliable predictor of future behavior, let’s just spend 1/3 of it for him now….

    Conservative visions of Brownshirts and Waffen SS are just plain silly! Here is what it will really look like:

    ACORN and related activities (some deniable): 100 billion
    Pajamas Cyber Security Force: 50 billion
    Pajamas Fairness Security Force: 20 Billion
    Deniable Activities: 20 Billion
    Literacy Security Force: 10 billion
    Educational Security Force: 5 Billion
    Celebrity-Led Initiatives: 25 Billion
    Diversity Security Force: 10 Billion
    Emotional Safety Initiatives: 10 Billion
    Other Initiatives: 10 Billion

    Details:
    All volunteer force jobs below come with stipends, tax credits, tuition credits and scholarships. Note that participation for young folks will be nearly mandatory because Obama has already told us he will withhold federal funds from high schools that don’t set up programs to require 50 hours per year from high school students and 100 hours per year from college students.

    ACORN already has a dog’s breakfast of related enterprises to try to hide many of their activities. Funds will be used to register voters, GOTV, press banks to go back to CRA-type loans. Etc, etc. Cadre will be prevented by federal law from using high pressure tactics.

    Pajamas Cyber Security Force: We used to call them script kiddies, but they grew up and started voting while we weren’t looking. They will get a Cheetos and Cheeze Whiz stipend, tax credits, tuition tax credits and tuition payments to ferret out and attack (sorry, I meant ‘ethical hacking’) web sites they don’t like. They get to choose the threats they will attempt to remove. Can’t take them to court or appeal their actions, because the attacks are anonymous for national security reasons. 1/3 of this budget will support well-protected government internet servers from which to launch their attacks.

    Pajamas Fairness Security Force: like the above, but without the internet literacy. These are the ones who sit at home and listen to TV, radio, and internet streams to ferret out unfairness in programming content. Same Cheeze Whiz stipends and other benefits as above.

    Deniable Activities: Hey, it’s only 20 billion, it’s deniable and it’s national security, right?

    Literacy Security Force: protects the nation from textbooks and other writings, especially in our libraries, that impose illegal moral judgments on others. Their web site will keep a running tally on how many schools and libraries have been audited. Books will always be burned in an environmentally friendly fashion.

    Educational Security Force: In a sense, this is the watchdog of the watchdogs, for without agreement on educational and social orthodoxies, chaos would reign supreme! Ensures that teachers and students are protected and that the proper attitudes are exhibited toward their desires and accomplishments. Tolerance will be zero-based.

    Celebrity-Led Initiatives: Rappers leading compulsory awareness seminars like ‘Bitch Slappin’ ‘Killin Hos’; Children required to attempt to top ‘Piss Christ’ in art competitions; Jane Fonda leads a public fornication seminar broadcast on national TV to liberate your hang-ups.

    Diversity Security Force: So you didn’t take your children to the gay pride parade in your neighborhood? What’s wrong with you?? May occasionally carry ax handles, whips, or other heavy ‘toys’. Firearms, of course, are forbidden.

    Emotional Safety Initiatives: That person paying for 4 carts of luxury foods, beer and liquor in the grocery store with several books of food stamps somehow felt a sense of disapproval from some folks while checking out. You were the next person in line. The shopper reported you. You get a visit… If anybody anywhere ‘feels bad’ it’s because of the unwarranted judgments of inconsiderate, lawless conservatives. ESI cadre will identify and punish the worst offenders.

    Other initiatives: These funds are set aside for the brilliant ideas that percolate up from the grassroots. Every idea has merit.

    Hey and this is only the first 1/3 of the budget!

    Local police departments, of course, will be forbidden by federal law from interfering in most activities of these cadre – they are involved in national security work!

  53. 53. Kevin C

    Cal Observer: the Dems did try to lose this war, John Murtha (D) accuses Marines of murder, all were exonerated, Dick Durbin (D) said troops were comparable to Stalin, Pol Pot and Nazis, there were numerousattempts by the Dems to defund the war (unfourtunately for them) they didn’t have enough votes, Harry Reid (D) displays lack of faith in the troops by stating the war is lost, John Kerry (D) calls the troops stupid, Obama accuses the troops without a shred of evidence of air raidng villages and murdring civilians and stating the surge would not work (what a military genius), their statements are no different from Al Qaeda’s why? North Vietnamese Generals said during Vietnam they were ready to surrender until tehy heard the press and so many people (liberals) were trying their best to lose the war they then knew they could win because of their allies in the American press and protesting in the streets. It was also the Dems who did their best in the last two election cycles to find anyway they could to disqualify the overseas military ballots (some things just don’t come letter perfect from war zones)and to some extend the same thing is being tried now. It was Dems who made fun of Bob Dole’s hand and arm that were injured in the Korean war, it was the Obama campaign that made fun of John McCain (and I am no fan of his) inability to use E-mail, but that in ability comes from injuries to his arm and fingers he sustained in the Hanoi Hilton ( friends of the left were his hosts) Yes I will question their patriotism up one side and down the other. Unfortunately, they and others like them lie under a blanket of freedom the military they hold in contempt secure.

    War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. – John Stuart Mill

  54. 54. FromScotland

    Having watched alot of US news channels over the past year i feel sorry for the American electorate..The media and the government in general treat the people with disdain..Afghanistan seems to be the forgotten war in your country,,it is also alot harder than Iraq yet it never seems to be mentioned..America seem to be divided in to left and right these days..All Americans should be proud of their country and its armed forces,,dont let politicians and the media divide you into left/right they have their reasons for dividing the people..As a Scotsman who lives in a left leaning country (not looney left like the US even the left in the UK support our troops) i say to my American cousins to unite and support McCain he isnt George Bush..God bless you all..By the way i am a socialist

  55. 55. Kevin C

    Also Barney Frank (D) is now proposing a 25% reduction in military spending, he has got to be galactically stupid to come up with this. It was the left who made a bigger enemy out of George W. Bush than Al Qaeda. On e thing we know Al Qaeda wants us dead, I can respect them because they are up-front about their position, these other trolls that call themselves Americans are beneath contempt. The left is right up front in disqualifying military ballots, although the troops thrugh no fault of their own didn’t get them mailed to them in time.

    Kevin C
    Msgt USAF (Ret)

  56. 56. JS

    I think Mandel’s “obligation to George Bush” that Poole referred to as an attack on Mandel’s military record was actually an attack on Mandel’s loyalty to the Repub Party in a Democratic-leaning district.

    Similarly, Poole claims Kilroy attacked Stivers, saying he’s “not on your side.” Poole provides no evidence that the remark was directed at Stivers’ military record. In fact, the remark was directed at Stivers’ lengthy employment as a banking industry lobbyist and vice preside.

    Poole has taken two remarks: “not on your side,” and “obligation to George Bush,” and twisted them to insinuate that they represent attacks on the military.

    He also provides no evidence to back his claim that these attacks represent the work of the OH Dem Party apparatus. If anything, they’re simple criticisms of singular Repub opponents by singular Dem opponents. Nothing more.

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