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Dem Negotiator Laments House GOP Putting Down Its ‘Harmonious Hymnal’ on Immigration

Still, Luis Gutierrez and Paul Ryan keep their harmony: “How big and broad it is — the House will work its will and we’ll find out," Ryan said of the final product.

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June 21, 2013 - 3:50 pm
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WASHINGTON – The chances of a bipartisan immigration reform measure emerging from the House appear to be declining with each side faulting the other for failing to come up with a workable compromise.

Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-Ill.) credited the Republican lawmakers he has been negotiating with, particularly Rep. John Carter (R-Texas), with trying to find a solution to the pressing problem of undocumented workers crossing the nation’s borders.

Most House Republicans were “singing from a new and more harmonious hymnal” on immigration until last week, Gutierrez said. Then, he said, the GOP began pushing what Democratic proponents of reform view as draconian measures like the Safe Act, which would make it a crime to be “unlawfully present” in the U.S. and provide state and local officials with the authority to enforce immigration laws.

Republicans are also toeing a tougher line on border security and thus far have refused to go along with any provision that provides a pathway to citizenship for the estimated 11 million undocumented workers already in the country. House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) announced this week that he will not bring up for consideration any immigration legislation that fails to carry the support of the majority of the Republican caucus.

While he has acquiesced on a number of issues, Gutierrez said, House Republicans, who constitute a majority in the chamber, have been unwilling to cede ground.

“I ask my Republican colleagues — when is it enough?” Gutierrez said. “But I want to keep things moving forward. So I hold my tongue, work within the bipartisan process and stay with the group. I speak well of Republicans who have partnered with Democrats on a serious bipartisan bill this year. A tough but fair bipartisan bill…is nearly complete. We’re putting aside partisan bickering to solve a difficult policy issue for the American people.”

On the other side, Rep. Mario Diaz-Balart (R-Fla.), another negotiator, said a bipartisan agreement was close but it fell apart twice when Democrats insisted undocumented immigrants be eligible for subsidized healthcare programs. Republicans oppose the idea.

Diaz-Balart said the Democratic negotiators, like Gutierrez, aren’t the problem. Rather he blamed House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi, of California, for getting involved, expressing doubt that she wants to reach an immigration accord.

“We’ve only had one outstanding issue, which is the healthcare issue,” Diaz-Balart said on MSNBC this week. “We’ve had two agreements on that issue and both times the folks that I’ve been negotiating with have had to backtrack on their agreement. That’s not coming from them — that’s coming from likely a higher pay grade.”

Pelosi rejected the notion, noting that putting agreements into legislative language “so that with the principles that they agree to, are that that language, when translated to legislative language is what everybody understood it to be” can be a difficult process.

“I keep saying that because it’s really important for us to have an immigration bill,” Pelosi said. “I think that anybody who would say that I would rather have the issue than the bill just doesn’t know what they’re talking about. This is something that is so glorious for our country that we will have a bill that many of us are willing to swallow. Some things that we don’t like about the bill, some terrible poison pills, but not deadly, and that we’ll make progress on it.”

Regardless, negotiations over healthcare benefits have created some fissures. Rep. Raul Labrador (R-Idaho), who played a key role in the talks, withdrew from the so-called House Group of Eight piecing the legislation together when members couldn’t resolve who would be responsible for the healthcare costs of undocumented illegal immigrants.

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" Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-Ill.) credited the Republican lawmakers he has been negotiating with, particularly Rep. John Carter (R-Texas), with trying to find a solution to the pressing problem of undocumented workers crossing the nation’s borders."
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As if further proof were needed that most politicians couldn't pour piss from a boot if the instructions were written on the heel - Rep. Gutierrez supplies additional redundant proof.

Rep Gutierrez would like us to believe that for over 225 years there have been no laws on the books to deter illegals from entering the US - so now we need to 'fix' things with some laws that we've been foolish enough not to have for lo all these centuries. What is really going on is an attempt to 'sweeten the milk' for illegals - sweeten things enough for more of them to flood across the border. Subsidies in health care are only one - I'm quite sure there are other sugar nuggets for the illegals.

And who will be there to meet the next wave of 2, 5, or 10 million illegals? Not the 20k new border agents - those new jobs will last about as long as as the proverbial snowball in hell. All the dems need to do is refuse to fund INS at the levels necessary to keep those 20k agents on the job. And they WILL have the votes to retake the house in a few years if this monstrosity gets signed into law.

Marco Rubio is a RINO who is running for president. If he can capture 10-15% of the hispanic vote he'll have a very good chance at becoming president in 2016. Beyond that personal goal he apparently has little regard for our nations long term health. This is the mark of the RINO - putting personal advance above God and Country.

Rubio is still 'new' - he'll need to be bent over hard by the democrats before he 'gets it'. By that time it'll be too late for Rubio - and we'll all have taken a collective 'BOHICA' (bend over here it comes again) as we watch the further erosions of our standards of living - privacy - and individual rights.



43 weeks ago
43 weeks ago Link To Comment
Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-Ill.) credited the Republican lawmakers he has been negotiating with, particularly Rep. John Carter (R-Texas), with trying to find a solution to the pressing problem of undocumented workers crossing the nation’s borders.

Stop 'em from coming across, and deport the ones already here as they are found. No-brainer, right?

Apparently, not for Gutierrez or the likes of him. (that includes amnesty-backing Republicans as well)
43 weeks ago
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I find it amazin', simply amazin', that our legislators - professional politicians whom we voted for - are trying to manipulate a comprehensive immigration bill that will not offend illegal immigrants and their enablers among both Democrats and Republicans. Any other invasion by foreigners would have been met with force of arms at an earlier time in our history.

Instead of complying with applicable U. S. law, the invaders are dictating what we be in the bill!

It's amazin', amazin', stupidly amazin'!
43 weeks ago
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No point in any new bills until Tyrant Obama leaves office. He doesn't pay attention to the law or the Constitution.

After Tyrant Obama is removed from office we might be able to work out an agreement. It should make illegal immigration a serious felony and the same for those helping them with sanctuaries and such. A large portion of the FBI needs to be dedicated on pursuing these felons. Every employee must prove citizenship and illegals should get no benefits. Furthermore, any felons who receive amnesty cant bring in other foreigners or their family. They can never vote or receive welfare/social security.
43 weeks ago
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Gutierrez presents a concoction, not terribly objectionable. However, as the witches brew that makes up the actual bill become known we find ourselves being seduced to take a fatal drink.
Beware the government agent coming with smiles and
romises of help.
43 weeks ago
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The whole thing is BULL****. We already have a Immigration bill on the books and Captain Clownshoes does not enforce any of it unless it helps ILLEGAL ALIENS get the best of us. We already know that MORE illegals are running across the border every day now in anticipation of the big sellout. The R party is DEAD if this turd flies,Period.
43 weeks ago
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John Carter, warlord of Austin?
43 weeks ago
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Some things are not worth salvaging, meant to die and never resurrect themselves. Immigration "reform", really amnesty, should have been strangled in its infancy, but the multicultural psychotics won't allow it. Moreover, it doesn't seem to bother them that ILLEGAL acts are being rewarded through "reform".
No matter. Obama Inc is hell bent on pushing this through, he will never allow it to die. After all, to transform/bring down America one needs millions of illegals to do so - http://adinakutnicki.com/2013/04/02/adina-kutnickis-book-review-featured-at-american-thinker-bringing-down-america-an-fbi-informer-with-the-weathermen-written-by-larry-grathwohl-and-frank-reagan-updated-2013-edition/
May all the kumbayaniks spin and spin....
Adina Kutnicki, Israel http://adinakutnicki.com/about/
43 weeks ago
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“I ask my Republican colleagues — when is it enough?”

It was enough, back in 1986. Some of us remember what happened back then, Congressman.
43 weeks ago
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What's with this PC-speak re "undocumented workers"?

They are ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS! ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS! ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS!

Next time PJ Media comes around looking for money, I will remember how they outed themselves by signaling they are with the pro-amnesty crowd.

I hope other readers feel the same.

"Starve the beast" starts with websites that support the beast!!!

43 weeks ago
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No. They are criminals.
43 weeks ago
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You are correct to question the "undocumented workers" and "undocumented immigrants" pity-party sloganeering. It is nonsense. The iillegals aren't "undocumented", they have documents and their documents are back in their country of origin. Duh.
43 weeks ago
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Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-Ill.) credited the Republican lawmakers he has been negotiating with, particularly Rep. John Carter (R-Texas), with trying to find a solution to the pressing problem of undocumented workers crossing the nation’s borders.

Stop 'em from coming across, and deport the ones already here as they are found. No-brainer, right?

Apparently, not for Gutierrez or the likes of him. (that includes amnesty-backing Republicans as well)
43 weeks ago
43 weeks ago Link To Comment
" Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-Ill.) credited the Republican lawmakers he has been negotiating with, particularly Rep. John Carter (R-Texas), with trying to find a solution to the pressing problem of undocumented workers crossing the nation’s borders."
-----------------------------------------------------

As if further proof were needed that most politicians couldn't pour piss from a boot if the instructions were written on the heel - Rep. Gutierrez supplies additional redundant proof.

Rep Gutierrez would like us to believe that for over 225 years there have been no laws on the books to deter illegals from entering the US - so now we need to 'fix' things with some laws that we've been foolish enough not to have for lo all these centuries. What is really going on is an attempt to 'sweeten the milk' for illegals - sweeten things enough for more of them to flood across the border. Subsidies in health care are only one - I'm quite sure there are other sugar nuggets for the illegals.

And who will be there to meet the next wave of 2, 5, or 10 million illegals? Not the 20k new border agents - those new jobs will last about as long as as the proverbial snowball in hell. All the dems need to do is refuse to fund INS at the levels necessary to keep those 20k agents on the job. And they WILL have the votes to retake the house in a few years if this monstrosity gets signed into law.

Marco Rubio is a RINO who is running for president. If he can capture 10-15% of the hispanic vote he'll have a very good chance at becoming president in 2016. Beyond that personal goal he apparently has little regard for our nations long term health. This is the mark of the RINO - putting personal advance above God and Country.

Rubio is still 'new' - he'll need to be bent over hard by the democrats before he 'gets it'. By that time it'll be too late for Rubio - and we'll all have taken a collective 'BOHICA' (bend over here it comes again) as we watch the further erosions of our standards of living - privacy - and individual rights.



43 weeks ago
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Can't say it better myself.
43 weeks ago
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Never in my memory (which goes back a while) have I seen an issue that so divides the political elites from the common people. And it looks like the elites will have their way, regardless of popular opinion or the real impact of the bill on the country. They are so used to spinning in Washington it seems like the spin is all that is important and they have forgotten that the real impact of what they do is often far worse than predicted.
43 weeks ago
43 weeks ago Link To Comment
I find it amazin', simply amazin', that our legislators - professional politicians whom we voted for - are trying to manipulate a comprehensive immigration bill that will not offend illegal immigrants and their enablers among both Democrats and Republicans. Any other invasion by foreigners would have been met with force of arms at an earlier time in our history.

Instead of complying with applicable U. S. law, the invaders are dictating what we be in the bill!

It's amazin', amazin', stupidly amazin'!
43 weeks ago
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If someone came here from another planet, having learned English from decades old radio broadcasts, they would think we had been at war with Mexico and Mexico won. Not won as big as we did against the Japaneses where there was an unconditional surrender, but pretty close to it, and we are now negotiating the almost unconditional surrender terms. How could we have been defeated by the Mexican army? We were not. Rubio and the Gang Bang Eight (and Ryan) sabotaged all our weapons and poisoned our water supply.
43 weeks ago
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Illegal immigrants and the people that want them here raise a stink and make cowardly politicians if they don't get what they want from them. Republican voters on the other hand ALWAYS turn the other cheek and ask Karl Rove what should they do after the GOP stabs them in the back. If you allow politicians to stab you in the back and pay no price for it they will do it over and over. BTW, the politicians don't feel they have paid a price if you vote for them again but you have 1.3% less enthusiasm than last time you voted for them. If you play nice you get played. Park a bus full of angry demonstrators in front of their house, now you have the politician's attention.
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