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		<title>By: automatic cat litter boxes</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/david-frum-sleeps-with-goliath/#comment-438375</link>
		<dc:creator>automatic cat litter boxes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 21:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was too late on this covnersation. :-(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was too late on this covnersation. <img src='http://pjmedia.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: deguello</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/david-frum-sleeps-with-goliath/#comment-226772</link>
		<dc:creator>deguello</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 14:16:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David: You awful cad! I thought you loved only me! You don&#039;t care that I got my black eye trying out that  new toy you bought me. I hate you!, I hate you ! ,I hate you!   PINCH SULZBERGER NYSLIMES, New York City.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David: You awful cad! I thought you loved only me! You don&#8217;t care that I got my black eye trying out that  new toy you bought me. I hate you!, I hate you ! ,I hate you!   PINCH SULZBERGER NYSLIMES, New York City.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Bison</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/david-frum-sleeps-with-goliath/#comment-226509</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Bison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 03:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David is just probably feeling nostalgic about
his original roots as a member and worker for
the NDP.  This is a Canadian socialist party.
It is a Michael Moore type of party.  However,
Canada is a very small pond for the ambitious.

If you want a Canadian ex-pat stick to Mark
Steyn.  Whoops-he does the Rush show sometimes
does he not?  Maybe David is feeling a bit
jealous.  Frum does like the spotlight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David is just probably feeling nostalgic about<br />
his original roots as a member and worker for<br />
the NDP.  This is a Canadian socialist party.<br />
It is a Michael Moore type of party.  However,<br />
Canada is a very small pond for the ambitious.</p>
<p>If you want a Canadian ex-pat stick to Mark<br />
Steyn.  Whoops-he does the Rush show sometimes<br />
does he not?  Maybe David is feeling a bit<br />
jealous.  Frum does like the spotlight.</p>
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		<title>By: ChipD</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChipD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 00:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@#69 Malone-
Well, perhaps I am reading a different history than you are:
Mine comes from the following source-
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/reagan/timeline/index_4.html
Where it lays out the exact timeline of the Reagan presidency-
1981- He submits a budget to Congress that contains a deficit;
1984- He sends another budget to Congress, with a $184 billion deficit;
1986- Another proposed budget, another deficit- $186 billion;
1987- Submits a trillion dollar budget, with $149 billion in deficits;

This isn&#039;t an exhaustive list, since it was a short Google search; 
I really do wish it was the nefarious Dems who did this, but but facts are stubborn, and one fact is that Reagan chose not to balance the budget, stating &quot; I didn&#039;t come here to balance the budget. I was elected to reduce Government intrusion in the economy.&quot;
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,953168,00.html

Feel free to find sources that contradict this and I will cheerfully read them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@#69 Malone-<br />
Well, perhaps I am reading a different history than you are:<br />
Mine comes from the following source-<br />
<a href="http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/reagan/timeline/index_4.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/reagan/timeline/index_4.html</a><br />
Where it lays out the exact timeline of the Reagan presidency-<br />
1981- He submits a budget to Congress that contains a deficit;<br />
1984- He sends another budget to Congress, with a $184 billion deficit;<br />
1986- Another proposed budget, another deficit- $186 billion;<br />
1987- Submits a trillion dollar budget, with $149 billion in deficits;</p>
<p>This isn&#8217;t an exhaustive list, since it was a short Google search;<br />
I really do wish it was the nefarious Dems who did this, but but facts are stubborn, and one fact is that Reagan chose not to balance the budget, stating &#8221; I didn&#8217;t come here to balance the budget. I was elected to reduce Government intrusion in the economy.&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,953168,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,953168,00.html</a></p>
<p>Feel free to find sources that contradict this and I will cheerfully read them.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Goggins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew Goggins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 18:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In comment 23, Kirly said,

&lt;i&gt;[Rush] sneered at policies because Conservatives act on their principles. Policies aren’t invented to please this or that (fleeting) constituency. Policies naturally fall out from a Conservatives principles.&lt;/I&gt;

Yes, I agree.  Principles first, then policies -- the why they&#039;re called &quot;principles&quot;.  Mr. Limbaugh was saying that we can&#039;t abandon conservative principles by dickering over liberal policies, since that allows liberals to set the agenda.

But by mocking both the word and the idea of &quot;policies&quot;, he seemed to be saying that principles alone should carry the day.  In other words, &quot;we don&#039;t need no stinkin&#039; policies&quot;, or &quot;let them eat principles&quot;, if you will.

Now if he really meant that, he would be making a poor recommendation to both conservatives/Republicans and to the country at large.  But I think he was just being inarticulate, perhaps a bit intellectually lazy and arrogant as well.  On his radio show he does mock &quot;policies&quot; as he did in his CPAC speech, but he also provides policy alternatives based on conservative principles.  In any case, David Frum (among others) was correct to note this failing in his speech to CPAC.


&lt;i&gt;We know inherently that attempting to play Robin Hood is wrong (stealing from anyone is wrong for any reason) and thus we don’t think up policies which will do that.&lt;/I&gt;

Government redistribution is not exactly stealing if the taxpayers have representation in Washington and agree through their representatives to have some of their income/wealth redistributed.  

I admit that it is &lt;I&gt;similar&lt;/I&gt; to stealing in some respects, especially when it is done at levels that no one could justify, or when it is done under false pretenses.  But the consent that we give to the process through the ballot box makes government redistribution truly distinct from real stealing, at least in this country.

If the taxpayers have had enough, and hopefully they have, then they should support and campaign for politicians who are willing to heed their complaints.


&lt;i&gt;Did you even listen to Rush’s CPAC speech yourself? He explained it all quite clearly.&lt;/I&gt;

I listened to every last minute of it.  He does explain it clearly &lt;i&gt;in the context of what he&#039;s been saying on the radio for the past twenty years&lt;/I&gt;.  But as a self-contained primer on conservatism, I don&#039;t think the speech was as clear as you to seem to believe.

I can especially understand why someone could misinterpret his CPAC speech given the controversy over his &quot;I hope he fails&quot; comments.  He seems to be saying that no policy is better than a socialist policy (and he&#039;s probably right about that), when he should be saying that conservative policy is much, much more than a rejection of socialist policy.

Thanks, Kirly, for responding to my comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In comment 23, Kirly said,</p>
<p><i>[Rush] sneered at policies because Conservatives act on their principles. Policies aren’t invented to please this or that (fleeting) constituency. Policies naturally fall out from a Conservatives principles.</i></p>
<p>Yes, I agree.  Principles first, then policies &#8212; the why they&#8217;re called &#8220;principles&#8221;.  Mr. Limbaugh was saying that we can&#8217;t abandon conservative principles by dickering over liberal policies, since that allows liberals to set the agenda.</p>
<p>But by mocking both the word and the idea of &#8220;policies&#8221;, he seemed to be saying that principles alone should carry the day.  In other words, &#8220;we don&#8217;t need no stinkin&#8217; policies&#8221;, or &#8220;let them eat principles&#8221;, if you will.</p>
<p>Now if he really meant that, he would be making a poor recommendation to both conservatives/Republicans and to the country at large.  But I think he was just being inarticulate, perhaps a bit intellectually lazy and arrogant as well.  On his radio show he does mock &#8220;policies&#8221; as he did in his CPAC speech, but he also provides policy alternatives based on conservative principles.  In any case, David Frum (among others) was correct to note this failing in his speech to CPAC.</p>
<p><i>We know inherently that attempting to play Robin Hood is wrong (stealing from anyone is wrong for any reason) and thus we don’t think up policies which will do that.</i></p>
<p>Government redistribution is not exactly stealing if the taxpayers have representation in Washington and agree through their representatives to have some of their income/wealth redistributed.  </p>
<p>I admit that it is <i>similar</i> to stealing in some respects, especially when it is done at levels that no one could justify, or when it is done under false pretenses.  But the consent that we give to the process through the ballot box makes government redistribution truly distinct from real stealing, at least in this country.</p>
<p>If the taxpayers have had enough, and hopefully they have, then they should support and campaign for politicians who are willing to heed their complaints.</p>
<p><i>Did you even listen to Rush’s CPAC speech yourself? He explained it all quite clearly.</i></p>
<p>I listened to every last minute of it.  He does explain it clearly <i>in the context of what he&#8217;s been saying on the radio for the past twenty years</i>.  But as a self-contained primer on conservatism, I don&#8217;t think the speech was as clear as you to seem to believe.</p>
<p>I can especially understand why someone could misinterpret his CPAC speech given the controversy over his &#8220;I hope he fails&#8221; comments.  He seems to be saying that no policy is better than a socialist policy (and he&#8217;s probably right about that), when he should be saying that conservative policy is much, much more than a rejection of socialist policy.</p>
<p>Thanks, Kirly, for responding to my comment.</p>
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		<title>By: deguello</title>
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		<dc:creator>deguello</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 12:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No Shrum needs to do something about his bestiality.It&#039;s clearly out of control!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No Shrum needs to do something about his bestiality.It&#8217;s clearly out of control!</p>
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		<title>By: one of my own</title>
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		<dc:creator>one of my own</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 03:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! You people need to get laid. You too, Colonel Moron.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! You people need to get laid. You too, Colonel Moron.</p>
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		<title>By: deguello</title>
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		<dc:creator>deguello</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>correction:re OOMO,sorry,but Shrum probably did him too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>correction:re OOMO,sorry,but Shrum probably did him too.</p>
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		<title>By: deguello</title>
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		<dc:creator>deguello</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>COL.MORAN:RE VIVO: Don&#039;t worry colonel, wait till OOMO reads the above posts;It seems Frum cheated on him as well!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>COL.MORAN:RE VIVO: Don&#8217;t worry colonel, wait till OOMO reads the above posts;It seems Frum cheated on him as well!</p>
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		<title>By: deguello</title>
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		<dc:creator>deguello</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:18:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That @!!#% Shrum, he said I was the only Goliath in his life!- Goliath-the gay circus strong man-Ringling&amp;Brothers Circus,New York City.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That @!!#% Shrum, he said I was the only Goliath in his life!- Goliath-the gay circus strong man-Ringling&amp;Brothers Circus,New York City.</p>
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