Dad Knew Who Killed JFK
I cried when they shot Mr. Kennedy
As though I’d lost a father of mine
– Phil Ochs
This weekend marks the 45th anniversary of the assassination of U.S. President John F. Kennedy. Four and a half decades after the tragic event and no one really knows if the conspiracy theories are right or if Lee Harvey Oswald truly acted on his own.
Kennedy’s assassination is a benchmark event for most people alive then. Everyone remembers where they were when they heard the news, just as in later generations we remember where we were when we heard the other John, Mr. Lennon, had been shot dead. In Israel, where I live, we all recall the Saturday night when Yitzhak Rabin was hit.
They were all killed by angry young men. And Oswald was himself gunned down on November 24, 1963, just two days after JFK.
On April 7, 1964, a 26-year-old detective in the New Orleans Police Department skipped up the steps into the Old Civil Courts building in New Orleans and presented himself to the Warren Commission investigating the assassination of President Kennedy.
I’d always known my father had been acquainted with Oswald. They had not only grown up half a block away from each other, but had shared homerooms at school. Sitting alphabetically, my old man Fred sat in front of Oswald for years. O’Sullivan next to Oswald.
Sifting through my Dad’s papers I came upon a letter from Jacqueline Kennedy thanking my father for appearing before the commission. It wasn’t something he spoke of often — just a tidbit of information in a life that went on to greater adventures.
Not long ago, as I thumbed through the stacks at a used bookstore, I came upon the official Warren Commission on the Assassination of President Kennedy, a 726-page concentration of the report. I flipped it open and sure enough there was my old man’s name and testimony.
JFK’s assassination has always been clouded by conspiracy. I mean, how can one angry young man, a lone gunman kill the President of the United States traveling in a moving motorcade? My father always intimated that he believed there was more to the story and that plots to kill JFK and assassinated black rights activist Martin Luther King Jr. crossed paths in New Orleans.
There were a lot of mysteries in New Orleans in the 1960s and my father, as commander of intelligence at the New Orleans Police Department, had a ringside seat.





Ok, I think I’ve read enough bits and pieces around the JFK assasination to be confident that he was, in fact, killed by Oswald. I’m no expert but there are only so many “consiracy theories” you can read before they all start to sound the same and not a little bit insane (and dare I say it…like the proponents own little fantasy).
Oliver Stone’s “JFK” farce proved just how desperate some people are to grasp at any and every possible straw and then, when adding “2+2″ somehow come up with an answer of “cornflakes”. You only have to look at the way the same madmen have embraced the slaughter of 9/11 as an “inside job” to see how their sad and sick minds work.
I’m not a particularly religious person but if there is a God up there I hope he looks after Obama for the next 4 (8?) years. Any illness or accident that may befall him will keep these loons going for another few generations of total and utter nonsense.
Who killed JFK? The military-industrial complex, some Miami Cubans, the Mafia, CIA, FBI, Dallas Police, LBJ, Lee Oswald, maybe others. The Oliver Stone movie shows most of it.
Why? Because he was a “Communist”, a “traitor”, and he was going to reduce the weapons manufacturers revenues ($80 billion per year) . . . It was a coupe d’etat de facto.
And thousands of documents cannot be seen for years to come . . . Huge coverup!
@Tony,
I am Christian, and, while I didn’t vote for the gentleman, I pray that BHO passes at a jolly ripe old age.
The thought of the US veering in the direction of a banana republic irritates.
Support the Constitution, not some extra-constitutional political party or ideology.
The fun thing about every conspiracy theory is how the theory’s authors react when confronted by fact that disprove an aspect of their theory:
Instead maybe concidering that they may be wrong, they just expand the power of the group behind the conspiracy.
So, in the end, pretty much the whole world is a part of it. LBJ, the mob, the military-industrial complex, Castro, the Masons, the CIA, the International Goldfish Fanciers, George W Bush, Chuluthu, the KGB, the Gnomes of Zurich, the Spanish Inquisition (didn’t expect that, did you?)- everybody except you, that is.
Don’t worry, we know who you are, and where you live! Be afraid, unless Cardnial Biggles forgets which rack to bring (again!).
I’ve read so much about the Kennedy assassination over the years (I was ten when he was killed and remember it like it was yesterday). As much as I would like the whole thing to be a large conspiracy and Lord knows the Mob and Castro and the CIA had motives, ther has been no significant piece of evidence indicating it was any one else but Lee Harvey Oswald. By the way, he was an extreme left winger, a Socialist, but obviously misguided. If theres an assassination involved (Ghandi, Malcom X) its usually one of your own…
I met a young guy once, he was doing some work for my father, who claimed to be the grandson of Earle Cabell. Cabell was the mayor of Dallas at the time of the assasination and reportedly signed off on the last minute route change that took Kennedy past the Book Depository.
This guy was fond of telling the story that when he was working on a report for school he asked his grandfather “Tell me really Grandpa, who killed Kennedy?” His grandfather just looked at him and said “son, so far as you know, it was Oswald”
Then again who knows.
RE #2/Vivo:
Vivo, you are a superb (damning) illustration of last week’s Zogby survey of Democrat/Obama voters – besides the beliefs revealed at that occassion, now you come with this edifying JFK view.
For PJM readers here are a few other beliefs nurtred by Vivo, democrat voter, ACORN operative and MoveOnOrg member: while at the North Pole it is very cold, at the South Pole is very hot, if you sail beyond the horizon line, you will fall on a turtle, then on a whale, then…, if you fly too high, you will hit a glass ceiling, the Mayas are from Atlantis, and Atlantis was in Timbuktu, if you drink Mountain Dew you get intelligent, raped women should be stoned, CIA operatives work around substituting blocks of reality, peyote makes you aware, the Apocalypse number are hidden in the Kellogg boxes bar codes, Hussein Obama will bring change, etc. etc.
Zogby showed it, and Vivo confirms Zogby’s report.
Strange that Oswald’s own sister finger’s Lee, that everyone who knows him, knows his background and his his previous attempt at assassination all finger Lee. His ‘handler’ from the USSR who got out of there and changed identities said that the USSR didn’t trust Lee and that using him for anything was ‘too obvious’. Lee wanted to change history, and did. We, as Americans, must accept that by valuing human liberty we will not only reach lofty heights but dark depths of the human soul. Lee Harvey Oswald had method, means, motive and opportunity as well as training to be a good shot from the USMC, as his shooting record shows. He decided to change history and did so. I wish we could remember him just the same as we do Charles J. Guiteau or Leon Czolgosz…
Oswald killed him on behalf of Castro on behalf of the USSR. Some of Nixon’s closest WH staff had at least figured out that Oswald was in cahoots with Castro, and were afraid of calling out the Russians because the only escalation was towards a global nuclear war– they knew where the road of confrontation would lead them and they chose to avoid it.
All these other theories are even less substantiated and probably fantasy.
It is amazing that agencies that can’t keep secrets are given credit for vast, secret conspiracies. Whether it be UFOs at Roswell, or the CIA killing Kennedy, or Bush bringing down the WTC, there is never a shortage of believers.
Things usually are as they appear.
For a while I thought it was a conspiracy, but the more I learned about Oswald, the more I thought he acted alone. Oswald started working in the Texas School Book Depository before the parade route was announced. Oswald was a lifelong loner and never fit in, and seemed so arrogant and anti-social that it’s doubtful anyone would finger him for a conspiracy. His escape route after the murder seems not planned out at all, and he was caught right away. If he were part of a conspiracy, the conspirators would have given him an escape route, and then if he were a patsy, not shown up. But his actions seem random — like he didn’t plan past the assassination.
No conspiracy theory I’ve seen accurately takes into account Oswald’s personality. He was a self-aggrandizing, deeply narcissistic individual with a victim mentality, by all accounts. He got the job at the Texas School Book Depository through a friend of his wife’s — unless they’re in on the conspiracy (doubtful), then he wouldn’t have been near the parade route. And the parade route wasn’t scheduled until just after he took that job. Oswald already attempted to assassinate someone, and used the exact same “take a bus to escape” method. But he missed the shot. It’s beyond doubt that he killed Officer Tippitt. Oswald never successfully worked with anyone in his life …
But he’s exactly the kind of guy who was trying to make a name for himself (hence the assassination attempt of Gen. Walker) and seeing the opportunity that presented itself when the parade route was announced, decided to take a shot at the president.
Plus, the latest computer models, with accurate measurements, show a straight line between all seven wounds on Kennedy and Connally and the sniper’s nest on the TSBD. It’s beyond doubt that Oswald killed Kennedy; if there’s a conspiracy, it would have to involve someone behind the scenes assisting Oswald. But how and why? Oswald already had the gun. He already had the job and the location. He needed nothing from anyone to commit the murder.
Anyway, that’s how I see it. You can’t prove a negative … so it’s impossible to prove there wasn’t a conspiracy. But as time goes on, it looks more and more like a lone nut.
Little hole in and big hole out .
http//:www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhWJowvbtxs
JFK was shot from the front and the back .
What did Mrs. Kennedy pick up off the trunk of
the limo ? It was a piece of the back of JFK’s
head .
JFK’s head shot was from the front .
from the front? I remember Zapruder film, his head rocked FORWARD when he was hit, and the bullet went on and hit CONALLY in front of him… no way was he hit from front.
KGB and its satellites. 3 years in the USSR, marine sergeant with U2 info? willing defector? in 1959? please. it’s obvious who killed kennedy, you twits.
The resemblance of Oswald to Czolgosz is even more remarkable than you might realize. Both of them were extreme leftists that hated the American system. (Oswald was an avowed Marxist while Czolgosz was an active anarchist.) Both of them thought what they were doing was serving the world-wide revolution and bringing about the end of capitalism. Both assassinations were political acts in their minds. Unlike Oswald and Czolgosz, Guiteau was simply a lunatic – possibly schizophrenic. The only real difference between the McKinley and Kennedy assassinations lies in their circumstances. There was never any possible doubt that Czolgosz was solely responsible for the shooting given that he just walked up to McKinley with a gun in his hand. Oswald’s sniping and subsequent murder has muddied the waters in his case.
(In passing, I should note that anyone who really still believes that conspiracy theories have some merit should read Posner’s book:
http://www.amazon.com/Case-Closed-Gerald-Posner/dp/1400034620/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1227541973&sr=1-1
I don’t think you’ll have any lingering doubts after doing so.)
Or you could look at this series
http://dsc.discovery.com/videos/jfk-inside-the-target-car-3rd-missed-shot.html
The comments are interesting , but seem one sided.Will send.DOS
Arieh O’Sullivan,
This is a beautiful piece. I hope that you write a book.
“Standing before the Warren Commission then I am sure that young man never fathomed his life would soon become one with a people settling accounts with Nebuchadnezzar, Titus and Hitler.”
More, please.
Annie Jacobsen
Los Angeles, California
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhWJowvbtxs
Little hole in from the front head shot .
Head jerks back as piece of the back of JFK’s
head lands onto the truck of the limo .
Mrs. Kennedy jumps up and grabs the chunks of
skull brain and hair off the trunk lid .
Why the lie ?
All you can do with a conspiracy is show that the facts indeed support the conclusion. Oswald acted alone. Ballistics proves this. Analysis of the Zapruder film backs this up. Means, motive, etc all prove Oswald acted on his own. After you have done all that, you just leave the conspiracy believers to their own kool-aid. How do you argue against a so-called “death bed” confession related by someone who knew someone who knew someone who knew the confessor? You don’t, except to acknowledge the “evidence” as faulty. Researchers have shown time and time again that every little pet theory is wrong. But as one writer stated, how do you prove a negative? By simply providing the positive and let it be. Know on the anniversary of the murder, the muslims are saying it was the Jews.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/023622.php#comments
The Left in America just can’t wrap their pointy little heads around the fact that an American Communist killed JFK. This cognitive dissonance causes the American Left to flail about, pointing fingers at everyone – except the obvious fellow traveler Oswald.
Also happens in regard to RFK, Malcolm X, and the 9-11 WTC.
C’mon folks everybody knows it was Jack Frost who was paid by the 7 Dwarves because Rudolph the RED nosed reindeer wanted to impress his Fairy Godmother and since the Dwarves were cousins of the Three Blind Mice it was just a debt payback, no conspiracy, just karma, Shiva the God of Destuction presided over. Jeessshhh, I thought everyone knows that !
Francis did it. He stole my bike, too.
#7 misanthropicus.
If you sail over the edge of the world and fall on the turtle, below that is a bigger turtle and then a bigger one and then it’s turtles all the way down
A rival explanation, given in Terry Pratchett’s Discworld comedy novels is that the discworld is supported on the back of four elephants which stand on the shell of a turtle that swims through space.
There is obviously much science has failed to understand about
a) Turtles
b) The nature of the Universe.
To the best of my knowledge nobody has ever admitted to a literal belief in the Discworld or its turtle. But you can bet there are people out there who belive it.
I’ve always believed that Oswald acted alone, but if it was a conspiracy there was only one organization that could have carried it out and it wasn’t the mob, or the CIA. The KGB had the means and motive, they proved they were willing to act in this way when they tried to kill the Pope and there has never been a time since the Kennedy killing that finding out the Russians did it wouldn’t have really put a crimp it international relations for a long time.
TO: Arieh O’Sullivan
RE: Say WHAT!!?!?!?!!!???
You got a mouse in your pocket?
I remember where I was and what I was doing when my social studies teacher came into the room, scrawled “President Kennedy has been shot,” and walked out.
I remember where I was and what I was doing when my co-worker came in and said someone had flown two airplanes into the World Trade Center. To which I replied, “Sounds like an act of war to me.”
But Lennon? Get realistic….
Regards,
Chuck(le)
[Pop culture is no culture at all.]
I always harbored some doubt about this, a doubt planted there by many stories I’ve read and by Oliver Stone. So when I was in Dallas a few years ago I went down to the Book Depository to see for myself where Oswald stood and fired those shots. (That much is for sure.)
In the movie, and in many written accounts, the building is set back from the road and the shot would be difficult. I’ve got some experience with firearms and I knew I’d have a pretty good gut feel about whether this would be a good shot or not. What I found when I stood in that window was surprising.
The road runs right by the building. There is a sidewalk separating the street from the facade of the depository. Standing in the window a shooter has a perfectly clear shot at any vehicle passing by below. In my opinion (as an amateur but not inexperienced shooter), not only is it possible to hit someone driving by in a convertible at 15mph — I’d be unlikely to miss. It probably could have been done with a pistol at that range. The “JFK” movie is nothing short of ridiculous in how it portrays that setup.
As for whether Oswald could have done it on his own; he shouldn’t have been able to. He shouldn’t have known the President’s motorcade was coming by that building, he shouldn’t have been able to get near that window with a rifle, and the car never should have been going 15mph. But he did, and it was. That was a sad day for the Secret Service to be sure, and a low point I hope they never match again, but I seriously doubt there was any conspiracy involved. Sometimes one nut with a rifle is all it takes.
TO: glenn
RE: C-Theory
I doubt if the KGB did it. Or could you explain the benefit they would derive, vis-a-vis the down-side if they were caught at it. We’re talking global thermonuclear war, there.
As for their attempt on Pope John Paul II, the obvious motive was to keep Poland under control and the Warsaw Pact intact. And no threat of global thermonuclear war if they were caught. After all, as Stalin asked, “How many divisions does the Pope have?” Let alone nuclear weapons….
My personal opinion is that LBJ did it. He always was ambitious. And Texas was his home state.
Do I have proof? No. But it makes more sense than the KGB out on a bent for revenge over the Cuban Missile Crisis.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
TO: jvon
RE: Heh
LBJ would have known all that information…..
Thanks for providing more evidence to support MY theory that LBJ was behind the assassination.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
This read is pretty convincing => Blood, Money & Power: How L.B.J. Killed J.F.K.
http://www.amazon.com/Blood-Money-Power-L-B-J-Killed/dp/0963784625/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1227551436&sr=8-1
It’s true that most people who were alive at the time remember where they were when they heard that President Kennedy had been shot. It was that traumatic an event. However, John F. Kennedy then was much like Barrack Obama is today… he represented change, but was more style than substance. Other than providing the spark that would put a man on the moon, Kennedy is remembered for accomplishing very little. Had he not been assassinated, his accomplishments might have been greater, but as it stands, his legacy is at best marginal. With that in mind, I’m not sure that people 40 years from now will be at all fascinated with any remaining conspiracies surrounding Kennedy’s assassination. Think William McKinley.
I always read and studied the vast conspiracies for years and years and then I actually went to Dealey Plaza and it convinced me–Oswald acted alone–case closed. If there had been a big conspiracy it would have leaked by now. Nobody in our government could keep a secret this long.
My grandfather was connected in Chicago. He wasn’t one of “the boys” but his best friends and gin rummy game partners were top level boys.
My mother a teenager when JFK was assinated. Her story goes like this. She came down stairs for breakfast the day after. She was crying still. They were Italian Catholics and it hit her hard that JFK had been killed.
So, she goes to the table and is crying saying “I can’t believe they did this to him.”
Grandpa looks up from his “breakfast meats” and scoffs at her crying says “who is do you think they are?”. Mama says “the Cubans”.
He literally laughed at her. He said “don’t be so stupid. They boys did this and are proud of it.”
Story isn’t worth much, but I can tell you that he never backed off that statement even when I was a teenager. I can also tell you that when I later read the book about Giancana (sp?), there were quite a few names that I knew as “uncles”.
A senior CIA official while slightly inebriated one night made the following statement while looking off in the distance: “I wonder how the American people would take it if they knew one president had another president killed”. One knew to just listen and not ask any questions..but there was only one president killed in modern times..and only two possible presidents who could have had a reason..either Nixon or LBJ. I would bet on LBJ, it was the only way he would ever have made it to the oval office. The first name of the man who made the statement was Noel…I hope he tells the rest of the story while he is still alive. The American people deserve to know.
Don’t even consider that JFK was the last US President to issue genuine US dollars; disregarding Federal Reserve Notes (FRN)s, which are from a private banking consortium. He issued roughly $2 billion in US Notes and was dead a few months later.
Notes are IOUs and Federal Reserve Notes are known to mean, I Owe You _nothing_, at law. They are debit bonds which represent the hypothification of US wealth. The Federal Reserve has never been audited; every attempt by congress to do so, squelched.
The now infamous head shot says Oswald didn’t act alone. Had Oswald’s shot hit the back of his head, the front of the skull would have blown out and he would have went forward. The exact opposite happened. That fact alone bothers me with the lone gunman theory.
E. Howard Hunt told his son before he died that LBJ was behind it all and that the CIA had surrogates carry it out.
The Left in America still cannot accept the fact that one of their own – a Communist, with ties to Cuba and the Soviet Union – did the deed. They would rather inhale the stink of conspiracy miasma than admit that a committed Marxist killed JFK.
Mr Pelto,
“LBJ would have known all that information…..
Thanks for providing more evidence to support MY theory that LBJ was behind the assassination.”
Motive and/or means are not evidence.
Curious that the same man who refused to run for a second term in 1968 (and yes, I know the long shot he had at succeeding) is characterized as a man with ambition enough for the job that he murdered his predecessor.
The Discovery Channel just did a show on the assination using modern CSI techniques not available in 1963. Their conclusion: Shots fired from the 6th floor of the Texas School Depository, i.e., Lee Harvey Oswald acting alone.
“Just Lee,” he said. “By himself.”
Great post, I have to agree with the conclusion.
7. misanthropicus:
The USA is a banana republic. You just can’t stand to think about it.
Misanthropic: cynical: believing the worst of human nature and motives; having a sneering disbelief in e.g. selflessness of others.
No wonder you ramble like a maniac in hell . . .
#38 Fred, you put your finger on it. Of course, the Kennedy conspiracy game is so prevalent that it long ago spread to conservatives as well. Mention at a party that you think that Oswald was the lone gunman and you get incredulous responses – because “everyone knows” that the Feds, the Mafia, the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Captain Kangaroo, etc,etc were behind it.
Unfortunately, a lot of people are now much more willing to believe in other hare-brained conspiracy theories as well, because hey, if “they” managed to cover up JKF’s murder, what else can’t “they” cover up? The marriage of Jesus Christ? 9/11? The secret history of the Trilateral Commission? The Zionist plot to run the world?
As another commentator noted, given the government’s general level of competence, the idea that they could engineer a vast conspiracy and keep it under wraps for years, with no leaks to the press is laughable.
TO: P Ami
RE: Yeah….Right….
….like becoming President of the United States isn’t a motive for an ambitious politician.
Or that he didn’t have the political clout in his own state to arrange for a ‘hit’.
Get real….
Regards,
Chuck(le)
TO: P Ami
RE: The Second Term
You must have been VERY young, or even not of this Earth, at the time Walter Cronkite destroyed LBJ’s hopes for a second term.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
TO: All
RE: vivo the Stupid
If only vivo could ever provide ANY evidence to support is idiot allegations.
I have to believe, based on stupid remarks like that, that vivo has STILL not graduated from high school.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
P.S. I blame the vaunted American public education system for people like vivo and P Ami….
For all the retards (with apologies to real retards who aren’t this stupid) who believe that JFK’s head should have gone forward, here’s some basic physics:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=745248745546892501
Uhh…65-69 was LBJ’s second term. You don’t get to take over due to an assassination, and then get two full terms after that.
TO: Pee Wee Herman…
RE: Hey!
It depends upon how long the vice president holds the office of president after the death of the previous president.
WHERE THE HECK DID YOU GO TO SCHOOL that they don’t teach civics any better than YOU know it?
Regards,
Chuck(le)
Good article.
Not too many years after JFK was killed I went to DC as a tourist. There was a woman holding a sign in front of the White House. She looked normal so I went over to talk with her. Her sign read: THE FBI KILLED JFK. I ask her about her sign and why she carried it. She said she use to work for the FBI and she knew they were responsible for JFK’s death. I ask why they would allow her to live knowing such important information about JFK’s death. She said it was because they knew that know one would believe her. I often think about that woman whenever the JFK murder is brought up…yes, I wonder about her and whatever happened to her.
The ballistics and photography evidence prove conclusively that John Kennedy was shot by more than one person. As to who did it, I have no idea, since the basic investigating never was done.
Ignoring the evidence for a chance to sneer at your opponents is dishonorable.
Funny my husband half brother went to Beaugard’s Middle school with Lee Harvey Oswald. Edward is describe as Oswald’s only friend. The family story is Oswald went into the Marines because of Edward’s father. I wonder if your father knew my husband family since he lived only a couple blocks away from Oswald. Small world & New Orleans is even smaller
Chuck Pelto:
There you go again with your silly little insults. Who is the true adolescent here? I love your style of reasoning because it reminds me of my grade school years where a simple “your mom” could trump any fit of logic or reasoning.
Leave Vivo alone. His views differ from yours. So what? Saying that you think he’s a middle school student just makes you look pathetic. At least think up some insults. Try actually USING one of your silly ‘vocab words of the day’ tags in a sentence, and use it to make yourself look like more than a pompous fool.
Regards,
Someone(75)
[A fool soon reveals his true colors -Me, 2008]
Bleepless,
Doesn’t change the fact that Lee Harvey Oswald’s rifle conclusively put a bullet into the President’s head. And that Oswald was a Communist who had trained in the Soviet Union and Cuba for assignments here. Even if the KGB thought he was a loon, they had their uses for useful idiots.
I stand by my earlier remark. The Left refuses to own this: one of their own killed an American President. Instead of being honest and taking it like men, they cast about for scapegoats and alternate explanations to get socialism off the hook. Sorry, I’m just not buying the conspiracy theories. Never did and never will. BTW, years ago I met a high up lawyer from the Warren Commission. He said they reviewed all the evidence at that Oswald did it.
Nothing that has happened since MY days on the left twenty to thirty years ago to convince me that I can ever give socialists the benefit of the doubt. I had too many experiences of the Left’s dishonesty to ever trust them as far as I can spit.
Everyone here is conveniently forgeting the role of Jack Ruby in the entire affair. Is anyone naive enough to believe that Ruby killed Oswald out of his fury that had been generated by his “love” for the assassinated president? Then why Ruby has himself “died” in prison in an unexplained circumstances a while later?
General Micheil Jon Pacepa the former Romanian Chief of Counter Espionage and a hihgest ranking defector from the communist country to the West, pointed in one of his numerous interviews that Ruby was a KGB agent whose role was to silence Oswald. Pacepa stated also that Oswald has been refered to Castro not by KGB itself but by the East German Secret Police, the infamous STASI that specialised in conducting KGB’s more dirty actins when it was necessary for a strategic reasons to relieve its senior partner. It has also been STASI that acted as a middleman in organising the botched assassination of the Polish Pope John Paul II (at least according to Pacepa).
It is also a fact that the Western societies aren’t at all interested in analysing evil deeds of our Communist adversaries; for us it is a far greater crime when an American soldier puts the underwear on a head of a terrorist than when the Neo-Soviet Russian regime commits an act of a nuclear terrorism (like in a case of Litvinienko), not to mention the genocide in Chechnia. Hence the ambarrasing silence about eventual Soviet Union involvment in the assassination of Kennedy.
I was a Navy corpsman working on the psychiatric ward of the Yokosuka naval hospital when the assassination took place. The corpsman who worked in the records office found a file for Oswald, but the next day it was gone. I’ve always been curious about what was in that file and what happened to it.
Bogdan of Australia,
It’s sad that the one place where Marxism has a new life is in my country. I’m sure the people of Eastern Europe cannot believe what has been happening over here. They must think we have lost it.
I have read some of Pacepa’s articles and he’s a very credible source of what was going on in the Communist intelligence services in the East.
Kennedy committed suicide. He arranged it, but did not know when it would happen. He had a terminal illness, the medical records are sealed until 2075.
Seriously? Conspiracy theory mongering? I expect better from PJM. Oswald killed Kennedy. He acted alone. I know, it’s horrible and chilling to think that life can be and often is so random and callous. It’s human nature to want the reason a thing happened to balance the weight of the what happened. But you can wish in one hand and crap in the other and see which one fills up first.
Oswald, Sirhan Sirhan, and James Earl Ray were all part of a secret organization designed to disrupt American society for the benefit of American business, masterminded by the father of Jack Baur, Phillip Baur.
RE: Conspiracies
Our stealth fighters were flying around for years before their capabilities became common knowledge. Secrets can be kept, especially in small groups where everyone knows the rules..and the consequences for breaking them.
RE: Zapruder Film
Speaks for itself; Oswald was blazing away but the kill shot came from the right front. That was too important a job to be left to the patsy.
I cannot IMAGINE that I’m the only one who caught this reference:
4. Mr. Blue: NO ONE EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION!
Mr Pelto,
I doubt we are going to solve the Kennedy Murder Mystery. We’re not quite Little Green Footballers here. It seems interesting that YOUR theory regarding LBJ’s guilt in the Kennedy’s assassination is based exclusively on hearsay coupled with motive and means. You made the error of regarding motive and means as evidence and that correction seems to have gone over your head. Either that or once you comprehended my point you pretended otherwise and instead felt it the right time to rail against the state of American education. Perhaps I am a victim of this education system but it seems I passed through it early enough to have learned the difference between causation and correlation. I’ll let you guess if The Tet Offensive predates my birth or not.
Try to play nice next time.
Back before he was discredited, Dan Rather narrated a CBS News documentary that argued that the Zapruder film shows the unconscious twitches Zapruder made as he reacted to the gunshots. The conclusion was that if there had been more than the commonly accepted number of shots (3, right?), they would have left traces in the film. It was very convincingly demonstrated. Then they re-enacted the assassination to see whether a rifleman could operate the manual bolt-action rifle Oswald supposedly used (Mannlicher-Carcano IIRC) fast enough and still hit his target. The speed of the model of camera Zapruder used was also measured (CBS could not get Zapruder’s camera). CBS came up with a range of slowest to fastest that told them how many seconds the shooter had to hit his target. Conclusion: Oswald could have done it easily, and it is certain that only three shots were fired. Anybody recall that documentary?? Its detailed explanations convinced me, so I ignored all the “two or more shooters” claims. Was this a case of Rather deliberately feeding us nonsense before we learned he would do something like that?
46. Chuck Pelto:
“I have to believe, based on stupid remarks like that, that vivo has STILL not graduated from high school.”
Dear Mr. Pelto:
You are so insightful! I have not graduated from high school, I’m in second grade elementary school. I’m 7 years old and live in a biiig banana republic (USA). Some highly educated citizens go by the name Pelto. They look smart but they don’t speak good English. I wonder why?
(Thanks Someone75)
I did watch one tape which showed that a shot from the grassy knoll would’ve blown Kennedy’s head clean off. And probably would’ve killed Mrs. Kennedy or a bystander across the street. To me, the conspiracy theories still run afoul of Lee Harvey Oswald and how he came to work at the Texas School Book Depository as an employee.
A conspiracy would involve all sorts of ordinary, unconnected folks, such as the supervisor who hired him, and the neighbors who just so happened to meet other neighbors in Dallas when Marina Oswald was visiting and suggested the job for Oswald … it’s just not how a mafia or a CIA hit works. But a sociopath like Lee surrounded by good people trying to help him, and then he repays them by shooting the president with a gun he already has … that’s how life works. When you look at all the physical evidence, the lone gunman is also the most plausible theory.
I think if it were a mafia or KGB or FBI hit, it wouldn’t have involved an anti-authoritarian sociopath like Oswald, even as a patsy.
67. IB Bill:
conspiracy
n 1: a secret agreement between two or more people to perform an
unlawful act [syn: confederacy]
2: a plot to carry out some harmful or illegal act (especially
a political plot) [syn: cabal]
3: a group of conspirators banded together to achieve some
harmful or illegal purpose [syn: confederacy]
You seem too good-hearted to believe people were helping a sociopath, and not look at the verbal evidence that there were six shots and a miriad of connections and motives. Does O.J. ring any bells?
Why was Oswald killed so easily?
Why did the Dallas Police did not take notes of what happened for so long?
Why do we have to wait until 2029 or 2032 to open thousands of documents sealed for “national security reasons”?
Oswald himself said he was a “patsy”. He could’ve been lying, but . . .
They killed him so quick because he knew lots of things. His killer was not a rabid Kennedy fan. He was connected to the Mafia.
And this goes on and on and on.
I was 16 when Kennedy was shot, and I’ve read every single book that has been written about the assassination. For years, I was convinced it was a mob hit, master-minded by Sam Giancana and the head of the New Orleans mafia, who had been deported by RFK. But modern filmmaking techniques have proven to me once and for all that Oswald acted alone. Using the same ‘wire-frame’ technique used in motion picture CGI effects, a computer expert constructed a highly accurate 3-dimensional wire framework of Dealy Plaza, Kennedy’s limousine, and JFK’s and John Connolly’s specific physical movements in the Abraham Zapruder film. Once this 3-D wire-frame was fully animated, the viewer could shift the point of view of the scene to virtually any angle or distance from the limo. The computer artist was then able to create a vector, passing through the wounds in Connolly’s chest and Kennedy, which pointed straight to the sixth floor of the Dallas Book Depository window that Oswald shot from. It was astonishingly precise. No so-called “magic bullet” or second gunman on the Grassy Knoll. It was Lee Harvey Oswald, acting alone.
I’ve always believed that more than one person was involved in JFK’s assassination (and I’m not, by nature, a conspiracy theorist).
Too many events transpired that weekend (and afterwards) that cannot be explained away; the ease with which Ruby was able to forever silence Oswald being one of them. (The missteps surrounding Kennedy’s autopsy, and the haste with which the Warren Report was compiled and released being two other examples.)
Also, I might be willing to lend a bit more credence to the idea that Oswald acted alone, had MLK and RFK not perished at the hands of assassins less than 5 years later. This tells me that someone wanted these 3 men dead. Reinforcing that conclusion is the fact that it’s unthinkable that 3 major political figures of similar beliefs, within the same country, would be assassinated today. And yet it happened in the 1960′s.
In the end, though, it’s less about who fired the shots than who bought the bullets, and why.
It’s interesting what turns up on the Discovery / History channels. Not too long ago there was a program about JFK’s health. The story was that his back pain was much worse that revealed at the time, and that ultimately he was attended by some “Doctor to the stars” from Hollywood that was slipping him amphetamines. Here is a link:
http://tinyurl.com/JFKCocktail
Another recent show interviewed the captains of the submarines dispatched by Kruschev to accompany the missle-bearing cargo ships to Cuba. According to the show, the four subs carried nuclear weapons and fairly aggressive rules of engagement. Here is a link to part of the story:
http://tinyurl.com/SovSubs
Until recently, I believed that Oswald was the assassin, but now I believe the core of our national security apparatus removed Kennedy because
1. He projected an image of weakness (the disastrous Berlin meeting with Kruschev, the Bay of Pigs, the outcome of the Cuban Missile Crisis (agreement not to invade Cuba and te secret agreement to remove our missiles from Turkey). Some have said we engaged in VietNam because we had to counter the impression we lacked the will to defend our interests.
2. The effect of the long-term use of amphetamines (aggressiveness and paranoia).
The mob was a convenient ally (Ruby) because they were sore Castro had upset their playhouse in Cuba. And Oswald was the perfect patsy. While this may have fit LBJ’s ambitions, I see him as going along with, rather than instigating, the assassination.
And Ruby was an ad-hoc response to Oswald’s unintended survival.
The Castro Brothers and Lee harvey Oswald Killed Kennedy. You Know, there is a reason why the cops always question the Husband about the Wife’s murder. Because, he had the most to gain.DUH>>> Who had the most to gain by Kennedys death? The Castro Brothers. Bobby Kennedy was in the middle of training another invasion force for Jack. The Cia had more contracts out on Castro then Joe Valachi could have dreamed of. The Anti Castro crowd in Miami came up with a Plot a day to kill Castro and Kennedy helped them. The Military also provided aid to all these groups. So far all the conspiracy Buffs to point the finger in house is beyond absurd. The Castro Brothers had the most to gain. Lee Harvey Oswald was promised a new life and a new status as the New Che. Another mass murderer that the Kennedy conspiracy wags all love. When Fidel finally croaks, and his mass murdering brother spends all day looking for the Americans who he thinks will come for him, he will miss the family member of one of the 2 million that he and his brother killed. That family member will end his existence. Then the records will be opened and the left can slink away in shame. Though i doubt they will ever apologize to all the people they have maligned over the years. But one can always dream………
TO: P Ami
RE: The Kennedy Mystery
Ask me if I REALLY care? And whether or not you accept or reject my ideas about LBJ is not that important ot me either. I just put it out there.
Why don’t I ‘really care’? Because I’m confident that God can deal with the perps—whomever they may be—in a much more effective manner than I ever could.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
TO: vivo
RE: Heh
Whether or not you are telling the truth here is irrelevant. It’s how you present yourself that is important. And I would suspect your real ‘grade-level’ is around middle-school range.
Keep it up….
Regards,
Chuck(le)
RE: Conspiracies
Our stealth fighters were flying around for years before their capabilities became common knowledge. Secrets can be kept, especially in small groups where everyone knows the rules..and the consequences for breaking them.
Sorry just about the time the Stealth Planes were ready to fly JImmY The idiot Carter announced them to the world. He was trying to keep his job after the Iran debacle.
RE: Zapruder Film
Speaks for itself; Oswald was blazing away but the kill shot came from the right front. That was too important a job to be left to the patsy
Sorry again, But using the lastest laser technology, all the shots have been traced back to the 6th floor. Oswald with the help of the Castro Brothers killed Kennedy. Nobody else had the motive.
Why? Because he was a “Communist”, a “traitor”, and he was going to reduce the weapons manufacturers revenues ($80 billion per year) . . . It was a coupe d’etat de facto.
And thousands of documents cannot be seen for years to come . . . Huge coverup!
Sorry Kennedy was a country club Republican whose daddy owned the democrat party. No president can reduce anything without congress.
Even if he had wanted to reduce it, which he didn’t, he would have never got it by congress and he would have lost the election in 64 just for trying.
There is no coverup. Oswald and the Castro brothers killed Kennedy.
letting out source papers also reveals where and from whom they were obtained. Those still alive would be in danger and their familys would bear the brunt of it if they weren’t. Just so a bunch of guys who can’t see the obvious can know every miniscule detail of an obvious crime.
A number of years ago I was watching one of my fav informational programs: Frontline. There were doing a story on the Mob lawyer who got Carlos Marchello and Santo Traficate off many, many times. Amoung a number of things that this guy revealed was, when asked, who he thought shot JFK. His answer surprised me; he said at that time, Robert Kennedy, as AG, was putting a lot of pressure on the mob and essentially closing down a lot of their activites. One big one was Jimmy Hoffa. This lawyer revealed that the mob killed JFK really due to the fact that they wanted to get to RFK and the term was, “cut off the head of the snake and the tail dies”. RFK left the AG job less than 6 months after his brother was killed. Thus ending his efforts against the mob. I found that quite interesting and believable. The program was titled, “JFK, Hoffa and the Mob”. I aired in 1992 and the lawyers name was Frank Ragano. That is what I believe happened to JFK and it has already been proven to be a conspiracy.
Did anyone ever see that old TV show Quantum Leap? They had a great two-part episode about how Sam “leaped” into LHO and it shows you what the man was: a small, petty, loner who wanted to be famous, one way or another. Of particular note, the producer of that show was in the Marines and had actually met Oswald during his time in the service.
It’s a little know fact that a day or two before Kennedy was shot in Dallas, Oswald made an attempt to kill General Edwin Walker, a prominent figure in the John Birch Society. In LHO’s mind, Walker and Kennedy were connected: two major threats to the impending world revolution. LHO was not an anarchist, but a true believer in the revolutionary theory of Marxism.
I believe the main reason why the left is so willing to believe the conspiracy theory is that Oswald represented much of what the John Birchers were warning against: isolated radicals who had the means, motive, and opportunity to take violent, revolutionary actions within the USA. Given that Kennedy and the Democracts often heavily criticized the Birchers for their paranoia, and then to have it blow back on them in such dramatic fashion was a major blow to their credibility. The Birchers had cried “wolf” and in fact a wolf did appear. Therefore the best way to prevent their opponents on the Right from gaining political legitimacy was for the left to tie Oswald to the radical right, a tie of which there was not evidence in any way, shape, or form whatsoever, but among the radical left has become over the decades a legendary fact.
No, Lee Harvey Oswald did not kill JFK. The kind of antedoctal discussion in the O’Sullivan article and reference to a TV show in the Shawn Dudley comment is no way to address the matter and can fairly be called unserious. I am a lawyer, but I don’t think you have to be a lawyer to know that you have to deal with the evidence as to the murder: the Zapruder film, the Dealy Plaza eyewitness testimony, the medical evidence of the Parkland medical personnel, the unsuitability of an unsighted and inaccurate rifle to be the murder weapon, the negative nitrate test performed on Oswald, bullet trajectories, the impossibiilty of the “magic bullet,” the botched D.C. autopsy.
Once you deal rationally with that body of evidence and not be taken in by what are very flawed more recent “recreations,” then you move to the conclusion that the “neck shot” and the “kill shot” on JFK were from the grassy knoll. That means a conspiracy, but we will never know who the conspirators were.
To: Chuck Pelto
Re: Your lone insult
Hi Chuck. I notice that anytime someone disagrees with you, you accuse them of being an adolescent. This is a great example of an ad hominem attack. You have no logical grounds to argue against either Vivo or myself, so you attempt to negate our positions by calling us juvenile. A skilled debater understands that this is the crutch of someone who is losing the argument, but is desperate. It’s also the crutch of a philistine who is incapable of rational discourse.
So, please continue the meaningless attacks, since that seems to be all you can muster. Or, pick on someone your own size. I’m sure momof3 and you could trade petty insults for days
Regards,
Someone(75)
[I'm sure you'll think of something "witty" to put here.]
69. JohnRJ08:
” The computer artist was then able to create a vector, passing through the wounds in Connolly’s chest and Kennedy, which pointed straight to the sixth floor of the Dallas Book Depository window that Oswald shot from. It was astonishingly precise.”
Did they determine the angles from the autopsy?
See 70. henley:
” (The missteps surrounding Kennedy’s autopsy,”
Without a proper autopsy those angles cannot be determined. Anyone can create a vector with wide margin of error. Oswald did some shots, but the Zapruder film shows another scene.
The shooting is just ONE element of the crime.
The hole in the head shown in the video R-A-Z-O-R posted is entirely consistent with the conclusion that he was shot from behind, and the head in the assassination video clearly shows the head snapping back toward the shooter… which is, again, entirely consistent with Oswald being the only shooter. I’m not sure why the two descriptions indicate something else, but with a massive head wound it’d be fairly easy to mistake the front for the back simply because one expects the front to be recognizable… and the massive wound renders it a piece of meat on one side. The other side of the face was apparently intact, so they mistook the damaged half for the back. I’m assuming these were not the physicians who actually tried treating the wound, but sort of incidental observers. At any rate one can clearly see the head jerk toward the rear of the vehicle, which is again consistent with a shot from the rear (even though that’s a little counterintuitive).
As for Ruby, a grandiose action such as killing the President’s assassin might be just the ticket for someone whose life, in most other respects, was an uninspiring failure. I don’t see any need to have a conspiracy to explain the facts. Clearly the two “wound observers” were simply wrong about the location of the wound. The nature of high powered rifle wounds makes such misidentification common in war.
Oswald was qualified as a marine sniper.
I have seen snipers make head shots at 800 yards.
Oswald fired 3 shots and missed one with a bolt action rifle.
He then killed office Tibbit at the theater.
Sorry to burst your conspiracy theory’s,
but Oswald was a marine sniper.
That killing was less than ordinary,
just the Great man it killed.
Look at the different JFK head wound photographs
and the different doctor reports .
Little hole in and big hole out .
JFK was shot from the back and the front .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhWJowvbtxs
LOH shot JFK from the back and someone else shot
JFK from the front blowing the back of JFK’s
head off . Mrs. Kennendy grabs the pieces of
JFK’s back of head off the trunk lid of the
limo . Why is the Zapruder film never shown with
the Mrs. Kennedy jumping up and grabbing the
material off the back of the limo ?
________________________________________________
Little hole in and big hole out .
JFK was shot from two directions .
The brother of Sam Giancana has written an account af what his brother has told him over the years. The book is called Double Cross. It explains his brothers motives for the assasination as well as the names of the actual shooters and where they were placed. It allso explains the motive.
Read Dr Mary’s Monkey by Edward Haslam. It will change your mind about not who, but why.
I was in the 7th grade when Kennedy was killed. It is still so vivid in my mind. When our classes let out and the buzz began all the students went to the next class in a daze. I believe that Oswald was the lone assassin but there are some things I still haven’t resolved in my mind. Why wouldn’t the Warren Commission fly Jack Ruby to Washington to here what he
alluded to and I still can’t resolve that magic bullet.
TO: Arieh O’Sullivan
RE: Did the Mafia….
…run the White House in 1963?
If this statement is accurate of JFK, I would think that it was more likely LBJ than the Mafia who killed Kennedy. Maybe the Mafia was involved, but I doubt they were the source of the effort.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
[Assassins do it from behind.]
It’s funny… the same people that don’t believe in God and think ‘believers’ are kooks for believeing in something so stupid, are the ones that believe aliens have visited us and are watching us like an ant farm.
Me thinks these kooks are the ones that believe the conspiracy theories.
The JFK movie was entertaining, but looking at the movie, it was fiction.
It was 1968, and I was in McGillin’s Old Ale House in Philadelphia with a bunch of folks from the company I was working for at the time (some company occasion). About 5:30.
A bunch of suits walked through: I recognized one and he recognized me, and stopped. It was a guy I’d known in school, 10 years before: he was now an FBI agent.
We reconnected, and over time hung out a bit. One day my wife and I were at his house and got talking about the JFK asassination. He went off and came back with a copy of the report on the rifle from the Weapons Lab at Quantico. He’d been curious also, so he’d dug into it (this was only 5-6 years later, recall). Red stamps and Document Control stuff and all the rest. Official copy.
I don’t know if any of this is part of the public record. If not, it ought to be.
Issue #1: the scope. All mounting parts were solidly attached, no signs of distortion in transit or handling damage. Initial range testing with similar ammunition (WWII Italian military issue Full Metal Jacket) showed point of impact was approx. 4-1/2 feet above point of aim at the range of the first shot. No signs of tampering with the scope adjustments, but in any event the scope adjustments were not capable of bringing the
scope on target. The lab had to partially dismantle the rifle and shim the scope base in order to continue testing.
OK, take this in: if Oswald had a good bead on JFK, he would have hit the driver; or maybe left a smear of bullet-jacket material on the curbstone on the far side of the street (anybody remember that chunk of curb that was removed?).
Then there was the speed testing. The Quantico Lab had to bring in world speed experts on bolt actions to match the shot count in the time recorded on the various tapes and films. Even so, they were all over the place hit-wise.
Oswald qualified “Marksman” in the MC. This is the lowest possible qualification. Basically this means he can hit the broad side of the barn, but maybe not the narrow side. “Sniper”? Scout/Sniper is an entirely different MOS and requires long and difficult additional training.
The upshot of all this? It’s obvious Oswald didn’t inflict all this carnage unless he was very very lucky (I won’t even get into how FMJ bullets work and don’t work). Who did, how, why, who they worked for? Who knows?
Likely we’ll never know.
A clue I remember from the time (1963: I was 23 at the time) for conspiracy theorists to mine out: there was a hooker from New Orleans who caught a ride to Dallas with a couple of brothers who were known hitmen. They were on a job. She was interviewed about the JFK thing but died 9 days later. I remember the name Rodrigues. Dig that out and you might find something. I have no idea. 1963 is a long time ago.
Here’s the part that I don’t get. The Zapruder film clearly shows the front upper right portion of JFKs skull being blown away. But there are autopsy photos that clearly show the back lower right portion of JFKs skull blown away. Explanations?
really some of these comments are astoundly stupid.
The zapruder film clearly shows that kennedys head rocked BACK. Basic physics people and i know not who but how this was all mapped out.
Yes they was someone in the depository but it wasnt oswald. Its been proven that in no way could someone pull off 3 to 4 shots with that rifle (circano which wasnt the murder weapon)in 7 secs.
Someone shot the president and it went through him and hit conally.
Now before i mention how he was killed look at this.
If some sniped him from the depository his face would have been gone so thats out. If he was hit from the grassy knoll there would be an entry wound from his right temple and would have went through his left so thats out. When he was shot his head was facing DOWN. The bullet went STRAIGHT THROUGH leaving a hole a above the ear and removing the back of his scalp.
I tell you now with this evidence, he was shot by somebody in the storm drain. I kid you not, look at this evidence and you can even go see it on youtube. Oswald didnt do it.
God sees everything, doesn’t he?
This is one small piece of proof that God talked to me:
Like I said earlier, the Holy Spirit talked to me, besides his message about First is Last and Last is First, he had something to say about “Who Killed JFK”. Christ tells me that the man who shot JFK is a policeman. He also tells me the name of the shooter, but it is in a jumbled word. The word is “Fritters”. I see the name F. Ritter right off so I think that is the name of the killer. Now God has lots of other messages for me to figure out, so I put “who Killed JFK” on the back burner for over a year. A year or more later , just recently, I have more time to look for F. Ritter. I can’t find a policeman with that name who lived in Dallas, Texas in 1963. So I am searching for information about who killed JFK and there is a picture of a policeman by the name of J D Tippit. Now Tippit kind of looks like Ritter. Now I unjumble the letters of Ritter to get TIRRET. Now TIRRET looks more like TIPPIT. Now I make the R’s stand at attention, I get TIPPET. One problem is that the I and the E are not the same. So I do some research on the family name TIPPIT. Turns out that in the late 1800’s JD Tippit’s grandfather changed their name from Tippett to Tippit. So the next step I change the E to I. So Tippet is now Tippit.
Now I have FS Tippit and JD Tippit. The first two initials are not the same. Next I go to Wikipedia, there I find; “Some thought that J D stood for “Jefferson Davis” however JD does not stand for anything”. That means his name is just J D. So the initials F S , do not stand for anything. I just have two initials that do not stand for anything. Are you following me?
Next what does “FRITTERS” mean. If your following my thinking here, God is going to tell you what happened to JD Tippit after he was shot. Fritters are a dough that is deep fried. Bread also means body, like in the last super Christ takes the bread and says this is my body. Look in the dictionary, PIT means HELL. TIP means money paid, gratuity. There are other meanings to. These meanings tell a story.
JD Tippits body (dough) is placed in the deep fryer (lake of fire). Now I think this clue (Fritters) was ingenius. After all God came up with it. I think he does have a sense of humor too. Kids now have a new game to play. They can play God. Pilsbury dough boy fry’s in the lake of fire. You get HELL! fry baby fry!
If you think this is just crazy. Remember I am just the messenger. Jesus is the one that had to talk about JFK. So he had a reason for doing that. Only God knows who the killer is. This is proof that Christ talked to me and that is the reason he told me “Who killed JFK”. It is proof. I had forgotten about the case years ago. This is a cold case now, it been 45 years since the shooting.
I also read the part about giving false prophesy. God says false prophets go to Hell or something like that. I only repeat what God told me. Now what I wrote above is from God. He told me who killed JFK in 2006. The above is not a lie or a joke and I am going to HEAVEN without fear.
Before I forget. Gods messages usually have more than one meaning. F S could also stand for “Fence Shooter”.
Who are the co-conspirators? Turns out that there are two policemen named Tippit, and one Tippett working in the Dallas police Department that same year(1963). Back to the clue word Fritters. That is plural, you know about plural. We have two fritters. The co-conspirators name is Gayle M. Tippit.
Now the Dallas Police Departtment obviously covered up and framed Oswald. He was the Patsy. They did it cause it is very possible that one of the other police officers rushing to the scene saw Tippet fleeing the scene carrying a rifle. They covered it up because of the embarrassment of one of their own was the man that killed JFK? And the Warren commission must have also figured that out so they stuck with the Dallas Dept. story saying that it was Oswald. It could have been a National embarrassment. Now if you look at the evidence like I did. It is easy to see that the DAllas Police Dept tampered with the evidence over and over again. And they did a very bad job of it too.
Now this is my opinion, not Gods. I think God is behind the creation of the Internet. I could never have been able to figure out a lot of his messages without the use of the Internet. People on the Net have been a big help to me. God talks to other people too, they just don’t know it. God let me know it was him.
Now I just made solving the case of “Who shot JFK?”, look easy. I also gave you proof here. Did you see it? You ask where’s the proof. The proof is that it is impossible for anyone to repeat what I just did above. I mean try it. And I do that over and over again in all of God’s messages.
See if you can make up a word that is a fried food (like fritters). Unjumble the letters to reveal the name of the killer (Tippit). Then divide the word Tippit into words that describe what happened. Tip- means that JD Tippit was paid for the job and the presidency was over turned. Pit – means that he went to Hell for what he did. Pit means the worst Hell.
See if you can prove me wrong. Show me how easy it is to make up a name like “Fritters” that solves the crime. This clue is ingenious. God came up with the name “FRITTERS”. God is a genius, not me. I am only the messenger.
Then the two remaining letters F. S. stands for Fence Shooter. It’s INGENIUS!
Then on top of that it just so happens that there are two Tippit’s working in the Dallas Police Department in 1963. Fritters (plural) means we have more than one Fritter going in the deep fryer . The other shooter is Gayle M. Tippit. He goes to Hell too. Now I did some research on Gayle M Tippit. There is very little information on him unlike JD Tippit. In my search I found two Gayle Tippit’s still in Dallas. One died in 1967 and the other is married and still lives in Texas. So the other conspirator could still be alive and has managed to avoid detection.
This is where it gets intesting. Does Gayle M. Tippit come forward and ask God to forgive him? I think he also has to ask the American people to forgive him for his part in the murder of the president or he gets the worst Hell just like JD did. God told me that waiting until the 11th hour is too late. God is forgiving, but you can’t wait until your on your death bed to ask to be forgiven.
Now if Gayle M. Tippit wants to save himself from the deep fryer. (This could be a long fry, not a quick dip.) He has to come forward and ask to be forgiven. He still gets death or Hell but it won’t be the worst Hell. Just like the worst death is being crucified.
Gods Messenger, Melaine
God did not tell me who paid JD Tippit. In my opinion I think the conspiracy went all the way back to LBJ. See the E. Howard Hunt confession.
Both single-crystal and multicrystalline silicon use large wafers of purified silicon. ,
Why do we still think about who killed JFK??Why do we still remember where we were when he was killed? Why is this important? We are interested because it is impossible to accept unfinished business and this is unfinshed business. There are many possibilities but none can be proved so we keep speculating on which one could be true.It makes good reading material. It makes good conversation…It makes us feellike we know something others do nt know.
But what do we know, nothing and probably will never know as things like this are always covered up by someone, the government, people, you name it…We ill never know, really
People have such a strong tendency toward denial – no coverup is needed. In Russ Baker’s book there are strong links to the Bush family & JFK. There are so many other things about the Bush family that are not in Mr. Bakers book (that George H’s older brother was the first to go over to Iran to broker the arms deal during Iran/Contra – which comes straight out of the congressional record from that time) that it’s seemed clear to me that most of the Bush family are more motivated by greed than any love for this country.
CSPAN has a video from Russ Bakers book tour here:
http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/285736-1
The “MOSSAD” orchestrated the JFK. Assassination
Wow Arieh. Great stuff! It’s riveting. I can’t wait for the book.
I knew your dad. I was a member of the New Orleans Cadet Squadron in those days and have been doing some reading (in my old age) into the Garrison investigation because it involved so many people I knew. Those were formative years, and I had a lot of contact with your dad in the hours we spent training for the National Drill Competitions. As I recall, your dad was a member of the CAP National Drill Team with me in 1956 (or was it ’55?) We trained at Wright Patterson AFB in Dayton, OH. I left the CAP in ’56 and went on to graduate from West Point in 1962. I was flat on my back in the Ft. Campbell, KY hospital with a broken back from a parachute jump and had wall to wall coverage of the entire JFK assassination event on TV. At home on convalescent leave, I went to the Lake Front Airport in January 1963 just to explore my old haunts. Walking between hangars, I spotted this gaunt, hollow eyed “spectre” coming toward me. I was shocked because it was David Ferrie. This was just a few months before he died. Did not see anywhere in my readings if your dad is still alive. If he is, remember me to him.
John Ulmer
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