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Cummings to PJM: ‘I Don’t See a Comparison at All’ to Watergate

"In that instance, you had the president and it’s recorded, saying, telling them to go after, that's not the case here."

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May 22, 2013 - 7:39 pm

Maryland Rep. Elijah Cummings, the top Democrat on the House committee that probed the IRS scandal today, told PJ Media that the agency’s targeting of conservative groups is “not at all” like Watergate.

“I don’t see a comparison at all, not at all and I don’t even entertain discussions about it because I don’t see the comparison, I don’t,” Cummings, the ranking member of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, said on Capitol Hill.

“You had – there’s a difference. In that instance, you had the president and it’s recorded, saying, telling them to go after, that’s not the case here — far from it and I think it’s a super stretch to get there.”

Conservative Columnist George Will has called the IRS controversy “Obama’s Watergate.”

“Using the Internal Revenue Service for political purposes is a criminal offense,” Will wrote.

“It remains to be discovered whether the chief executive is guilty of more than an amazingly convenient failure to superintend the excesses of some executive-branch employees beyond the Allegheny Mountains.”

Wyoming Republican Rep. Cynthia Lummis said the IRS scandal is “far worse” than Watergate.

“When things like Watergate were going on, you had a battle of titans. You had the politically powerful going after the politically powerful. But in this matter, you have the politically empowered going after the people who hired them and people who don’t have the weapons of the imprimatur of the federal government to turn to. You have people who are relying on trust, and that trust is absolutely gone,” said Lummis at Wednesday’s Oversight hearing.

“This is far worse than anything we’ve seen in Watergate or that the government has done to the government because this is the government turned against the very people who hired them, who trusted them and who have destroyed that trust.”

Lummis also connected the situation to the story of David and Goliath.

“This is Goliath against David. These are the people who hired Goliath and empowered Goliath, and Goliath has turned against those very people. It’s moms and dads at kitchen tables who are taking kids to soccer games who want to have a political organization like a tea party,” she said.

Lois Lerner, the head of the office that reviews applications for tax-exempt status, refused to answer questions at the hearing. Former IRS Commissioner Doug Shulman, Deputy Treasury Secretary Neal Wolin and Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration J. Russell George testified.

Nicholas Ballasy is a video journalist based in Washington, D.C. His interviews with prominent politicians and celebrities have been featured by media outlets including Fox News, NBC News, ABC News, Access Hollywood, Inside Edition, the Washington Post. Follow his work at www.nickballasy.com.

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You are correct, Rep. Cummins, it's nothing at all like Watergate, for two reasons. One, the rather amateurish burglary failed in Watergate. Secondly, and more importantly there were enough honest Republicans who would have voted yes on impeachment to fry Nixon's backside.

You have to have a lot of patience and a microscope to find an honest Democrat today. They think voter fraud and blatant misuse of gubmint power are just peachy.
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I agree, it's ridiculous.
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---- Cummings to PJM: ‘I Don’t See a Comparison at All’ to Watergate

That's right, just say the words, nimrod. Truth be damned.
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This is classic liberal dithering. When it involves accusing the opposition, we don't need to stinkin' smokin gun. Every dingbat who kills arbitrarily is immediately identified with the "right wing nuts". Yet when their own is caught dead to rights, unless their is a video of them pulling the trigger, they will never acknowledge connections. And now that they have doubled the size of the government, oh by the way, it will be next to impossible to EVER find a smokin gun. There are too many lackys in the many many layers of this corrupt excuse of a government to ever find the real person who gives the order or pulls the trigger. In many ways, it's ingenious.
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If Rep. Elijah Cummings and his partisan colleagues would push for release HW tapes, there is a good chance that we will hear Obama saying "Get them".

Why? We even already heard how Obama called on his supporters to bring a gun to the fight with political enemies.
See here: http://www.factcheck.org/2011/01/obama-guns-and-the-untouchables/
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You are correct, Rep. Cummins, it's nothing at all like Watergate, for two reasons. One, the rather amateurish burglary failed in Watergate. Secondly, and more importantly there were enough honest Republicans who would have voted yes on impeachment to fry Nixon's backside.

You have to have a lot of patience and a microscope to find an honest Democrat today. They think voter fraud and blatant misuse of gubmint power are just peachy.
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Yes, and besides which, a lot of the "charges" that were made against Nixon were in fact deliberately false. Heck, the entire impeachment standard used against Nixon was inherently unconstitutional (since they effectively shredded the original impeachment process used for Andrew Jackson). The one responsible for the travesty of the Watergate Impeachment hearings, ironically, was none other than Hillary Clinton. In fact, when it was discovered they completely falsified the charges because they had an axe to grind, she and her partner were among the few people to not be given a letter of recommendation by the guy doing the impeachment charges.
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Here's one of the sources regarding how the impeachment of Nixon was (literally) unconstitutional and driven mostly by partisan hacks, BTW: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/814539/posts
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Correction, her partner was given a referral. It was Bettie who was denied one. Clinton did end up denied hers, though.
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Cummins' official date of birth:
05/22/2013, 11:59 PM.
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It's exactly like Watergate. It's not a bit like Watergate.

WHAT is this Watergate?

A Rallying call to summon the masses to"correct" attitudes. To "lead" the masses who hear the call to march along to the drum majors and orchestra conductors batons?

This 20th century myth beome keystone in world culture. Contrived by so-called elite when not compassionate liberals /democrats and friends. Those who believe it their divine right to control the nation and her people and through them the world.

Control the people called Americans with a capitol A. The people who despite all the means to induce them to accept the representation of these "elite" decided independently for one of their own.

And worse to choose that one man rivalling their choice in their contrived, and tainted free and fair election in Cook County, Chicago Illinois. In 1960. To make them, the media and friends in media, entertainment and academia undisputed kingmaker.

This Could not be allowed to stand. So from the begiinning of Nixon's, the devil incarnate, taking office plans were afoot to disable and if possible to remove him. To extend their role as kingmaker to that of kingbreaker.

HE , Nixon, had done the unacceptable. STOPPED the drain on treasury and blood created by the elite democrats - with their secondary gain in pitting citizen against citizen. Processed by little steps, softly softly catchee monkey.

The "anti-war protests" seeded in Cornell. Among the exempted from the military draft created by the "Democrats" for Vietnam. After the "Democrats" were bested by Richard Nixon the publication of the Pentagon Papers "stolen" by Daniel Ellsberg now hero of the nation.

Proceeding to Washington Post under Editor Ben Bradlee, "bosom" buddy of JF Kennedy. And the "story" publicised with bells on from THE heroes Bob Woodward, Carl Bernstein and "Deep Throat".

All the elements of their myth in place. With the additional propagation from fraternity brothers in the monopoly Media as NYTimes, NBC, CBS and the guru of the "News" Walter Cronkite et al. Cleverly they contrived a catchword mouthed trippingly on the tongue for euphony and memory. Et voila myth complete.

On to the finale to beard the beast as showtrial for impeachment by the chorus in Congress. But the villain of the myth disappeared in a puff of smoke. Epilogue to be written by whomever for whatever.

That epilogue embodied in the word EVIL/Watergate is "Still There" when expedient. As siren song to direct the masses to follow the "appropriate" conductor, drum major.
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One of the silliest diversions ever invented by either party. However poorly executed, those IRS employees were doing the job created by the IRS changing a single word in the congressional legislation. Bottomline is simple! It is 'legislatively' illegal for any political organizrion to file for tax expemption under a non profit 501(c)4 no matter what your political party afilliation. That aside, the change made by the IRS and contrary to the congressional legislation, in '59 mandated the employees to make determinations predicated on the term "primarily" in order to grant the non profit exemption.

They may have executed in a sloppy and somewhat irresponsible manner, but in the end, they were doing what their guidlines called for. This conspiracy will go nowhere other than maybe some slap on the hands. Had the conservative movement been informed they would have used this issue to force tax reforms in addition to forcing ALL political non profit organizations to file under 527 and the FEC. The price paid for not being very strategically smort or informed.
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You should explain all this to your president, because he is on the record as stating that the targeting of conservative groups by the IRS is inexcusable and intolerable and that he intends to get to the bottom of it all and punish those responsible. So is your president stupid?
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Incorrect, Zeke. It may be true that these were political organizations trying to game the system, but that is not the point. Only one side got put under the microscope. The other side mostly sailed through.

Furthermore, if they were determined to be trying to game the system, then why not just deny their application? Why use a pocket veto? Because then they have no right of appeal! It was meant to sideline them indefinitely.

Your point also ignores how other agencies piled on. True the Vote was investigated by the BATF, OSHA, and others. Family members all got audited, as well as the founder's business. It cost her $80k in legal fees. Even though they found nothing, the agencies kept calling "to follow up", like the Mafia's kneecapper just showing up at your store "to follow up". It was pure harassment and intimidation, and you call this a "diversion"? Really?
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You miss the whole legislative issues involved. As a result, you also miss the whole IRS administrative process they created in '59 for which is the 'core' of this issue. Next, you ignore that of all the cases no matter their political party leanings, none were ultimately approved. Had the legislative law been followed since '59 none of this would have happened.
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"In that instance, you had the president and it’s recorded, saying, telling them to go after, that’s not the case here . . ."

Even in my deep cynicism, I'm not sure Obama gave an order. Jarrett yes, Obama not so sure. And I don't for one minute believe there's a smoking gun. I'm quite certain that Jarrett is good that way.
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Cummings is not interested in justice ... he's a partisan hack. Jarret DOES talk to Obama and SHE definitely is complicit in not only orchestrating these attacks but in providing cover for Obama for everything. Obama "puppy whipped"?
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When are you scheduled to testify with your evidence?
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"We will reward our friends and punish our enemies." He is on record as saying that and many other similar things. He didn't need to issue a memo. He said it to the entire nation. He is the boss, and his workers followed his expressed desire. There's your evidence.
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I have no idea what youy're responding too. I was responding to the Jarret comment "SHE definitely is complicit in not only orchestrating these attacks...."
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Ya know, don't these black racist thugs realize that they begin to enforce the stereo-types that black dem politicians are dumb, lazy, shiftless, corrupt and mendacious? Feel me, it's not true?
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