Coulter and the Camel
The camel is a noble animal. Had it not existed, Islamic civilization would never have gotten off the ground, just as, in the absence of the horse, we in the West would still be lugging barrows and scraping along in donkey-hauled slipes. The camel is perhaps even preferable to the horse. It is fast, carries its own water, and provides what SUV manufacturers call “command seating,” rivaled only by the elephant. Indeed, Mark Twain understood the inherently exalted nature of the creature when he introduced the cameleopard in Huckleberry Finn. Of course, the cameleopard or “Royal Nonesuch” is really a giraffe (Arabic: ziraffah, “tallest one”), but it sounds like a camel with a temper and enviable velocity, a beast that demands respect. Detective writer David Baldacci calls his group of likeable, informal sleuths “the camel club,” whose goal, according to author’s website, is “to seek the truth.” With so much going for it, it’s a crying shame to see the desert taxi disparaged, rejected, or ignored, especially by those who should know better.
For example, even the great historian Edward Gibbon and so prominent a writer and intellectual as Jorge Luis Borges lay it down that there are no references to camels in the Koran. Borges comments in his essay “The Argentine Writer and Tradition”: “Gibbon observes that in the Arabian book par excellence, in the Koran, there are no camels.” Gibbon and Borges obviously skipped surah 88:18 in which the Prophet (PBUH) urges the redeemed in paradise “to reflect on the camels, and how they were created.”
Joining this cabal of camel skeptics is one Fatima Al-Dhaher, a young Muslim student who attended Ann Coulter’s talk at the University of Western Ontario on March 22, the first in a three-lecture swing through Canada. A firebrand conservative critic of the Western multiculti tendency to appease and coddle Islam in the wake of 9/11, Coulter has suggested, with her characteristic brashness, that Muslims be banned from commercial flights and rely on flying carpets instead. Challenged by Ms. Al-Dhaher, who took the jibe with utmost seriousness and felt “stabbed to the heart” by so callous a recommendation, Coulter shot back “take a camel.” This was not, apparently, an allusion to a famous brand of cigarettes, as if to say, “relax, light up, think it over,” but, from Ms. Al-Dhaher’s perspective, a politically incorrect snub of epic proportions.
I believe the only one who should feel slighted is the camel, who has furnished transportation over the millennia through drought, heat, sandstorm, and mirage with nary a complaint. And maybe, too, the hundreds of thousands of frequent flyers who are subjected to all manner of indignity and inconvenience because teams of aggrieved Muslims are prone to wreaking destruction in and from the air. Ms. Al-Dhaher should have understood Coulter’s point regardless of its heavy-handedness, namely, given the well-attested fact that the overwhelming majority of the world’s terrorists happen to be Muslims, and assuming that we are really interested in saving lives, what we call “racial profiling,” however unpalatable, is nothing short of a civic obligation. Although the fact that the young Muslim woman had no compunction approving of the Facebook group, It’s Called Palestine, not Israel!!!, which advocates the annihilation of the Jewish state, renders her troubled innocence rather suspect. (Incidentally, her name has strangely, suddenly, been deleted from the site.)
All the costs of extra security can only be seen as a special tax we all pay because of Muslims. In all fairness & for the sake of accuracy, every cost should be clearly labeled as the ”Islam Tax” …….
Personally, I feel that ONLY Muslims should pay this tax – this is what accountability & taking responsibility mean. ALL the costs of extra security should be added to the price of tickets of Muslim passengers.
And if they don’t like it, let them take a camel.
Anti jihadists have been been FORCED to pay the jizya to the Islamofascists for years.This Islamic tax-lest the infidel prefers to die-is courtesy of those in lockstep with this aggrieved flying carpet student, foamers-at-the mouth, mobs the likes of which often defy normative description, barbarian-like in their behavior.
When was the first time, the last time, that leftists, united in their hate with Islamofascists, EVER had to lecture with bodyguards at their sides, in fear of conservative backlash?
This is of piece with the insanity which greets those who refer to camels, cartoons or any other imagery describing Islamic frothing at the mouth.
Whether or not one agrees with Coulter’s approach IS beside the point.Either there is freedom of speech or there is not.
Consider: Islamofascists roam the campuses in the US, Canada and Europe, courtesy of the Muslim Student Association(the progeny of the Muslim Terror Mafia, AKA the Muslim Brotherhood)and their academic back benchers.In this regard, has ONE of them EVER been stopped from speaking, has one of them ran for their lives from the podiums? Negative and negative.
Free speech for terror inciters, but NOT for those exposing said haters? I think not! And herein is the prism under which Coulter’s (and others)remarks must be viewed, not whether or not we agree with Coulter’s ‘indelicate’ speech.
In our multi-culti state, David, as you well know, ’tis better that all take off their shoes than one take down her veil.
The video clip of Coulter’s “take a camel” quip is misleading. According to Coulter, a studtent asked a question, and as Coulter attempted to respond, about ten minutes of jeers and heckling interrupted her. This ten minutes of heckling between the question and Coulter’s answer was editied out of the video, so it is very misleading. Coulter was attempting to provide a reasoned response but was unable to do so.
Muslims. Jews. Blacks. Gays. Right-wingers. Liberals. Christians. Atheists. Pro-lifers. Communists. Socialists. Green. Oil. Water. Drugs. Illegals. Stock market. Foreclosures. Coke. Pepsi.
Where does it end?
Had (the camel) not existed, “Islamic civilization” would never have gotten off the ground …
There is no such thing as “Islamic ‘civilization.’”
Perhaps you mean Arab “civilization?”
“Islam,” meanwhile, is to (Judeo-Christian/Western/Human) Civilization, what the Earth’s collision with huge asteroids is to dinosaurs!
Or, as the well known Anglo American, (the same one that was around while the New Zealander, Keith Park, won the Battle of Britain) Mister Winston Leonard Spencer Jerome-Churchill once (111 years ago!) observed:
“How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity.
“The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property – either as a child, a wife, or a concubine – must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to (exist) among men.
“Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the Queen: all know how to die but the influence of the religion paralyzes the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome.”
Islam has contributed noting to the advancement of mankind. Don’t say “what about charity”, because all major religions require charity so it is not a reason to puff your cheast out. I agree that due to Muslims billions of dollars and billions of hours have been wasted along with thousands of lives. The ” good ” Muslims have yet to condemn the living pig shit among them that targets innocent people, treats their women worse than their livestock, and send their children out to kill themselves. I have met Muslims in both Turkey and Morocco that I liked,but,they were less than good Muslims, so I guess that made them pretty good humans.
“” (Miss) Coulter has suggested, with her characteristic brashness, that Muslims be banned from commercial flights and rely on flying carpets instead. Challenged by Ms. Al-Dhaher, who took the jibe with utmost seriousness and felt “stabbed to the heart” by so callous a recommendation, Coulter shot back “take a camel.” “”
Miss Coulter has never suggested either that Muslims should “rely on flying carpets” and nor did she “shoot back” at the author of the flying carpet line, Ms al-Dhaher, that Ms al-Dhaher “take a camel.”
the Truth is that some ten minutes after Ms al-Dhaher projectile vomited her flying carpet line, during which interval Miss Coulter was screamed at by scores of disruptive and abusive Islamanazis and other psychopaths, Miss Coulter “shot back” at one of the disrupters that he should “take a camel.”
How interesting, though, that (1) this cheap CNN type canard is employed here and; (2) that Miss Coulter has never uttered a single word of any of the “hate speech” attributed to her.
…. Miss Coulter “shot back” at one of the disrupters that he should “take a camel.”
(I have it on good authority that he shot back that he had once or twice but still preferred his neighbors’ goats, small boys and his little sister)
Ann Coulter plays the game anyone with sense should play the game. Too bad more don’t learn her craft or have her wit.
Just as you don’t negotiate with terrorists, you don’t rationalize with irrational, leftist thugs. You mock them, scorn them, point fingers at them, then laugh at them. Push them to the edge, then push them some more.
We could all learn a thing or two from Ann Coulter in our dealings with the enemy. And make no mistake, progressives are the enemy.
VIVO: you forgot transsexuals, dopers, “vampires”, Nazis, Facists, Neo-Facists, porcupines, housewives, and tarts.
It’s about text, context and pretext.
The hordes who are perpetually aggrieved when those they demonize fight back, it is as if the hordes are to the be Torquemada’s of political correctness. “How dare those uppity folk defend themselves”.
Well, as long as they continue to pull text out of context, thereby
reducing the text to pretext – they will continue to judge themselves by themselves, which makes them good.
What I want to know is why conservatives are still allowed to buy fertilizer? Everyone knows that the majority of domestic terrorists are rightwing extremist, like McVeigh, and the Olympic’s bomber. Heck, their rhetoric isn’t much further right than Ann’s.
Maybe they should only be allowed access to bullsh!t. Of course… the great thing is that you guys wouldn’t even need to buy any since you generate so much of it yourselves.
Brian, those “Islamanazis” you are refering to were yelling “answer her question”. Watch the video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mBKQEiA6p4
Seriously buddy… what planet are living on?
For years Ms. Coulter has been demonstrating the hypicrisy of the left in its agenda on tolerance and diversity. She has caused the left to show it true totalitarian colors every time. There is no diversity or tolerance except what they decide it to be.
But the left does not care how we think of them or that we see right through their lies, dissembling, obfuscation, and any other Alynski Rules they use. Nor should we care about what they say. Trouble is there are a growing number on our side like Noonan, Frum, Brooks, Krystal, Fox News-O’Reilly, and many of our pols like McLame and Grahmensty who take issue with Ms. Coulter and true conservativism which gives the left credibility.
I’ll never understand why Ann Coulter would want to give a speech at these left wing colleges in the first place. The greatest share of these institutions of higher learning are only platforms for Marxist teachings. She would get better a response from talking to the wall. The sad thing in this world today is that you cannot dispel a lie, no matter how much truth you use. The lie will prevail.
You can watch the full exchange in the video of the Q&A, starting at about the 14:25 minute mark:
http://vimeo.com/10395152
And there was this exchange starting at about the 25:17 minute mark (note: the transcript is mine; the question marks are for words I couldn’t quite hear):
Woman in audience: “I’m kind of like Voltaire. I might disagree with some of what you have to say but I’d defend to the death your right to say it. But, at the same time, in reference to what you said to that Muslim girl up there, I guess my question would be, why’d you have to be such a bitch about it?”
Ann Coulter: “I’m glad you asked. Because I was giving an informative answer that might have taught the audience something and they started screaming, ‘Answer the question’. Well, there was only one question in her long speech and the one question was, ‘How do you expect me to travel?’ referring to a joke I had made. So if that’s the only thing your little ? of the room wanted me to do, answer that one question, you’re gonna get another joke.
“And by the way, I’d also like to say, this is not based on hate, and I would encourage all of you to listen carefully to what I’m saying now. There was, many years ago, a surgical procedure performed on children after they were born, removing their sense of humour, removing a sense of irony or sarcasm, and I think they’ve caught it and stopped it recently, but they still walk among us. They’re known as liberals and we must ? pity and concern for them.”
I am very sorry for the attacks against Ann.
But she can’t answer well enough, contrarily to what everybody seems to think.
She should have asked ms.Fatima Al-Dhaher, the young Muslim student, in which muslim country governed by shari’a a woman would be allowed to go to the university or to speak in public.
And she should have asked her with empathy if any body part had been cut away from her.
And she should have asked her if she will be compelled to marry some eighty years old relative.
And she should have asked her if she will like to live together with her husband’s OTHER wives.
“Islam is the Devil’s way of mocking Christianity”
Ok PJ media you got this one about as wrong as the msn media.
1. Ms. Coulter did not say all Muslims should be banned from flying. She said they ought to face increased scrutiny.
2. a young lady challenged her and said ” Maybe we should just ride our magic carpets instead” This was a sarcastic remark uttered by a student and not Ms. Coulter.
2. The stupid camel thing. A question was asked and answered and the camel remark came as a joke some 10 to 15 minutes later. The MSN ( looks like you read and repeat their stories without doing original work) spliced the camel remark after the question
I could not care less whether anyone likes coulter or not. The think I do care about are lies, mistrusts, misprints and repeating things that one does not know anything about. Get with getting the facts straight or get out of blogging.
Another example of why the conservative cause will never succeed as long as liberal control the main stream media.
‘Newsbusters’ and other conservative sites easily document a dozen cases of overt left wing bias 7 days a week 665 days a year, MSNBC,CNN,ABC,CBS,NBC,NYT are actually tilting more to the left with every passing day. One tiny irrelevant race baiting Communist front organization Color of Change can strip Glen Becks show of any real paid advertising while Schlutz and Olberman rake in the dough from sponsors who they would destroy in a heartbeat if given the chance.
As long as corporate America is not punished for bankrolling left wing media all this hand wringing by conservatives is just pissing in the wind.
The haters of the left are desperately grasping for moral superiority and pointing to people like Ann Coulter who says what she thinks, speaks the truth, is aggressive, firm in her convictions and on top of all that she blond and loud. In other words she is a perfect weapon against the left. The left is given no quarter by Ann Coulter. No, they want quiet lying conversation, ‘can’t you just let us oppress you and kill you’ and ‘can’t you go quietly into the night while we steal all that you own?’ Ann say’s no!
When the evil of the world are having their way in their oppression and murder of the innocent they are also busy trying to play the victim while they murder slaughter the innocents. Why are the American Hemisphere left strange bedfellows with Islam? Well the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
The left in the USA are busy trying to steal the moral high ground from the conservative right and notice how they have to lie to do it. The presidents “friends” are wolves in sheep’s clothing. One thing everyone should realize is the left should not be given any moral ground whatsoever because close examination reveals they are liars. The left should be ridiculed, reviled and scorned. Ann Coulter does a good job of that and every moral person should follow suit in their own unique way.
Does this mean we sit in judgment in place of God? No for we are all sinners in need of salvation. Judgment is reserved for the Judge of all. However our tolerance of liars, thieves and murderers and all other forms of evil calls our own salvation into question and Christ cannot be crucified again. Therefore we must take the sword of the truth and destroy every lie. Silence is an option only for the dead.
I dare say most people find Ann Coulter abrasive and uncomfortable to listen to. Well, so is the truth.
“the Conservatives blue and the Liberals red, which makes greater symbolic sense”
yep, the marxists in the U.S. pulled a fast one reversing the colors, one of many sleights of hand, such as calling themselves (cough, cough) “progressives”.
It’s nice to see the Coulter misinformation being addressed so well in the comments. This illustrates that the MSM is no longer getting away with lying. As they continuously lose credibility they will continue to lose market share, soon we won’t be able to call them the MSM.
RE: #20. Jonah Johansen:
“As long as corporate America is not punished for bankrolling left wing media all this hand wringing by conservatives is just pissing in the wind.”
They are certainly being punished for bankrolling the left now that Obamacare’s been passed!
This is obviously another example of how valued freedom of speech is not only here on college campuses, but in Canada — although one doesn’t really believe that in Canada there is actual freedom of speech. Here in the US, that freedom, in academia, is really only valued when it conforms to the prevailing orthodoxy, which so obviously devalues that which made freedom of speech possible in this country to begin with. Freedom of speech is just a talking pt., with no real meaning in hard left circles. Try speaking freely about anything that isn’t in harmony with leftest ideology, in a college setting, and see just how free you are…
Worthy creature, the camel, albeit with one or two shortcomings. My mother, descended from an old Jerusalem family, assured me as a boy that there is no animal on the planet with fouler breath. When a camel come in from the desert sneezed in the old, dusty Jerusalem town of her youth, people keeled over in the street.
In the Bible, Arabs are identified with asses rather than with camels. “Yishmael hu pere Adam,” the book of Genesis informs us in Hebrew. (“Ishmael is a wild jackass of a man.”) Very un-PC of The Good Book
Ann Coulter is the rare Christian who recognizes that large portions of what is known today as “The Muslim World” was originally Christian. Indeed, the places where Paul preached and Christianity was founded and knew its greatest intellectual ferment were all conquered and forcibly converted by the scimitar. May the Lord of Israel bless and keep this fine, honest Christian lady.
15. savage24:
I answer your question: so that the poor soul who fights the indoctrination you describe, can be encouraged.
There is precedent. When Jonah, in the Old Testament of the Bible, was sent to Nineveh, relations between Israel and Nineveh, which was the capital of the Assyrian Empire, were as rotten as relations between those on the right wing politically, and those on the left wing.
Plus, there is a strategy at work, so what you saw was tactics.
Be patient, for the folks who brought Ann Coulter to Canada know what they are doing. Ezra Levant has earned considerable respect,
and his parents raised him well. Take a look at the bon mots that Ezra earned in the comments section of each of his blog entries. The url is: http://www.ezralevant.com
David, #25. Excellent statement and completely true. They [the islamo-nazis] are doing it again by ridding Bethlehem and Mosul of ancient Christian communities and the world yawns. Let alone no one moves against them despite what they are doing in Nigeria, Pakistan, Egypt, etc., as the scimitar of islam again slices that which it hates: anything that opposes its mentality of supremacy. Violence is the reason people gravitate to islam [note our prison population] because it gives them an excuse to kill, just as Cain slew Abel over how to worship the Lord. Today, we are living this Truth on massive scale instead of one on one. Therefore, as Christians we need to defend Israel and Judaism, and Jews need to defend Christians who defend them for Ishmael is a “wild jackass” and only the Lord, who allowed him to be brought forth ["his hand will be against all men, and all men's hands against him" Genesis 16:12} as a chastisement for sin [anyone for another "gay" takeoff on the Passion of Christ or gay men in priest's clothing scandalize the Church from within?], can subdue him and his hand against Isaac. Only prayer, not guns, will bring this miracle about. Therefore, we pray that it will be soon because, as evident by obama’s [perhaps a descendant of Ismael?] handling of Israel, Jerusalem is about to reach the Omega of its becoming a burden to the world.
David,
re the symbolism of red and blue, consider that the old Communist left took up red as the age-old symbol of the common people/blood. Now that the Republicans represent the common man while the Democrats are neo-feudal aristocrats full of welfare-state condescension, blue seems appropriate to the latter. There is however a difference between the common aristocrat, and the true aristocrat, so maybe you’re right… But Canada is full of “red tories”.
This link illustrates just how divorced from reality and rationality the left is: http://thehopeforamerica.com/play.php?id=3465. Naturally, they voted for Obama and ilk.
“… consider that the old Communist left took up red as the age-old symbol of the common people/blood.”
1. The colour was chosen because it was a link to Garibaldi’s “Red Shirts” brigade during the Risorgimento of 1860.
2. The choice of those red shirts was based on price: it was all Garibaldi could afford.
Cheers
Let me think, Limbaugh/Beck or Bachmann and Coulter and Palin…
hmmmm
I think if there were to be a T Party/GOP popularity contest. I think the last three would win..just on looks, hands down..
dont you agree…. ?
Thank god someone finally has the guts to say it like it is. Next you and Coulter can go after the child-buggering Catholics and the bank-bailout Hebrews.
If you remember the Flying Imams of years ago that threatened to boycott the airlines, you will recognize the source of Ann Coulters quip. They complained about the security measures. Ann said that if they used a flying carpet there would be no need for security. The muslim girl referrd to the boycott and asked what mode of transportation would be available to her since she didnt have a flying carpet.
Ms. Coulter answered a joke with a joke – Take a camel.
At the Calgary Alberta event, a little boy about ten was out with his homemade sign.
It read – I dont have a camel or a flying carpet – Will you lend me your broomstick.
The only complete and accurate version of the whole story is on the website – Five Feet of Fury. She also reports on another hilarious mention of Ann Coulter in the Canadian Pariament that characterizes the Liberals – the opposition party – for the idiots they are.
I hope Ann Coulter visits again and brings Rush next time.
When on flight of airplane the gallop called air turbulence, tropopause is suppose to be the pilot to stand still on a layer which separates two very different types of air turbulence which bumps the jet stream.
The kind of flight that will pause will not be passengers airliner but a jet on mission for another universe which will pause at the epicenter of the “air pockets” to do what i will instruct you later which IATA members have not done when DopplerLIDARs and Scintillators dictates it on flight plan.
Camels..low maintenance…low cost…reliable..and best of all..
BAGS TREK FREE!!!!
I can’t stand Ann Coulter. For some insane reason she refuses to marry me!! What’s wrong with her?
Coulter is a bimbo giving true conservatism a bad name.
#37 SteveB/Colorado: “Coulter is a bimbo giving true conservatism a bad name.”
Au contraire, Mr. B. Coulter is a smart, witty, media-savvy, best-selling author who can verbally slice and dice you before you get your first word out. She’s probably made more money than you’ll ever see. As far as giving conservatism a bad name, she is about the only conservative out there who dares speak the politically incorrect truth, painful as it may be. If you understood what she says, you would understand she’s conservatism’s best friend.
“There are some things more painful than the truth, but I can’t think of them.”