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		<title>By: pappy</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/conservatives-torn-on-interrogation-truth-commission/#comment-250742</link>
		<dc:creator>pappy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OXYMORON for a lifetime: Abortion good torture bad.in this case, i pick abortion of terrorists on the battlefield.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OXYMORON for a lifetime: Abortion good torture bad.in this case, i pick abortion of terrorists on the battlefield.</p>
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		<title>By: BC</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/conservatives-torn-on-interrogation-truth-commission/#comment-250537</link>
		<dc:creator>BC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 10:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To typos_R_us: &quot;Clinton committed a war crime when he ordered the bombing of Kosovo.&quot; Ummm, no: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,978373,00.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To typos_R_us: &#8220;Clinton committed a war crime when he ordered the bombing of Kosovo.&#8221; Ummm, no: <a href="http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,978373,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,978373,00.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: typos_R_us</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/conservatives-torn-on-interrogation-truth-commission/#comment-250446</link>
		<dc:creator>typos_R_us</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 03:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The democrats will outnumber the republicans on any commission or board, and they will never allow it.&quot;

Until the next election.  Then it&#039;s turn about is fair play.
Clinton committed a war crime when he ordered the bombing of Kosovo.  If Bush administration appointees can be charged, so can Clinton administration appointees.  Carter is also open, since he had no authorization to land troops in the desert of Iran.
Are we going to end up like the English and dig up dead politicians and behead them?
snipped from wikipedia;
&quot;In 1661, Oliver Cromwell&#039;s body was exhumed from Westminster Abbey, and was subjected to the ritual of a posthumous execution, as were the remains of John Bradshaw and Henry Ireton. (The body of Cromwell&#039;s daughter was allowed to remain buried in the Abbey.) Symbolically, this took place on 30 January; the same date that Charles I had been executed. His body was hanged in chains at Tyburn. Finally, his disinterred body was thrown into a pit, while his severed head was displayed on a pole outside Westminster Hall until 1685. &quot;

That is a pretty high bar for BDS to beat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The democrats will outnumber the republicans on any commission or board, and they will never allow it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Until the next election.  Then it&#8217;s turn about is fair play.<br />
Clinton committed a war crime when he ordered the bombing of Kosovo.  If Bush administration appointees can be charged, so can Clinton administration appointees.  Carter is also open, since he had no authorization to land troops in the desert of Iran.<br />
Are we going to end up like the English and dig up dead politicians and behead them?<br />
snipped from wikipedia;<br />
&#8220;In 1661, Oliver Cromwell&#8217;s body was exhumed from Westminster Abbey, and was subjected to the ritual of a posthumous execution, as were the remains of John Bradshaw and Henry Ireton. (The body of Cromwell&#8217;s daughter was allowed to remain buried in the Abbey.) Symbolically, this took place on 30 January; the same date that Charles I had been executed. His body was hanged in chains at Tyburn. Finally, his disinterred body was thrown into a pit, while his severed head was displayed on a pole outside Westminster Hall until 1685. &#8221;</p>
<p>That is a pretty high bar for BDS to beat.</p>
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		<title>By: BC</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/conservatives-torn-on-interrogation-truth-commission/#comment-249902</link>
		<dc:creator>BC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Bilgeman: Are you serious? See: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13480264

To quote: &quot;But defense officials said Thursday that the weapons were not considered likely to be dangerous because of their age, which they determined to be pre-1991.

&quot;Pentagon officials told NBC News that the munitions are the same kind of ordnance the U.S. military has been gathering in Iraq for the past several years, and &#039;not the WMD we were looking for when we went in this time.&#039;&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Bilgeman: Are you serious? See: <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13480264" rel="nofollow">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13480264</a></p>
<p>To quote: &#8220;But defense officials said Thursday that the weapons were not considered likely to be dangerous because of their age, which they determined to be pre-1991.</p>
<p>&#8220;Pentagon officials told NBC News that the munitions are the same kind of ordnance the U.S. military has been gathering in Iraq for the past several years, and &#8216;not the WMD we were looking for when we went in this time.&#8217;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Samizdat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Samizdat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 11:49:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Typos-R-us,
     I agree with your call for direct action on the &quot;highway of death&quot;. However, your dismisive attitude towards the success of enhanced interogation avoids the fact that a number of mass murder plots were broken up after enhanced interogation obtained actionable intelligence. These included the attack on the tallest building on the west coast and multiple airplane suicide hijacks. These &quot;battles&quot; were won by our side; you don&#039;t dismiss a battle won due to enhanced interogation simply because the war has not yet been won. That is the triumph of the perfect over the possible.

     It is also important to me that proper credit be given to the forces that anihilated the Taliban and Al queda during the 2001 campaign. While it is true that some Airforce forward observers were involved in the conflict, and the CIA played a pivotal supporting role, the lions share of the action was carried out by Green Berets. There are several excellent books on the subject including &quot;Masters of Chaos&quot; and &quot;Chosen Soldier&quot;. Our Special Forces soldiers deserve national gratitude for their accomplishments in the conflict since 2001. They are the best of the best at direct action, sabotage, reconaisance, and field diplomacy. General Petraeus employed Green Beret tactics on a mass scale during the Iraqi &quot;Surge&quot; with spectacular results that even President Obama is recognizing now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Typos-R-us,<br />
     I agree with your call for direct action on the &#8220;highway of death&#8221;. However, your dismisive attitude towards the success of enhanced interogation avoids the fact that a number of mass murder plots were broken up after enhanced interogation obtained actionable intelligence. These included the attack on the tallest building on the west coast and multiple airplane suicide hijacks. These &#8220;battles&#8221; were won by our side; you don&#8217;t dismiss a battle won due to enhanced interogation simply because the war has not yet been won. That is the triumph of the perfect over the possible.</p>
<p>     It is also important to me that proper credit be given to the forces that anihilated the Taliban and Al queda during the 2001 campaign. While it is true that some Airforce forward observers were involved in the conflict, and the CIA played a pivotal supporting role, the lions share of the action was carried out by Green Berets. There are several excellent books on the subject including &#8220;Masters of Chaos&#8221; and &#8220;Chosen Soldier&#8221;. Our Special Forces soldiers deserve national gratitude for their accomplishments in the conflict since 2001. They are the best of the best at direct action, sabotage, reconaisance, and field diplomacy. General Petraeus employed Green Beret tactics on a mass scale during the Iraqi &#8220;Surge&#8221; with spectacular results that even President Obama is recognizing now.</p>
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		<title>By: AlanABQ</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 11:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What an odd phenomenon. Progressives can cite precedent out the wazoo where an American president is concerned, but when it comes to a member of the Democrat party pretending to be one, they get silent.

Go ahead &amp; challenge them on it; they&#039;ll only revert to how everything from man-made global warming to dinosaur extinction is all W&#039;s fault. And they can prove it! How?

By endlessly echoing one another. After all, if you say something enough times, in becomes irrefutable proof by way of consensus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What an odd phenomenon. Progressives can cite precedent out the wazoo where an American president is concerned, but when it comes to a member of the Democrat party pretending to be one, they get silent.</p>
<p>Go ahead &amp; challenge them on it; they&#8217;ll only revert to how everything from man-made global warming to dinosaur extinction is all W&#8217;s fault. And they can prove it! How?</p>
<p>By endlessly echoing one another. After all, if you say something enough times, in becomes irrefutable proof by way of consensus.</p>
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		<title>By: Robohobo</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/conservatives-torn-on-interrogation-truth-commission/#comment-249757</link>
		<dc:creator>Robohobo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 05:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...if the Left foolishly roots for political civil war, conservatives need not follow...&quot;

And if there is not a choice but the Left insists on going down this road? Then can we fight for our figurative lives and hope to show them for the enemies of the Republic we think they are?

Just askin&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;if the Left foolishly roots for political civil war, conservatives need not follow&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>And if there is not a choice but the Left insists on going down this road? Then can we fight for our figurative lives and hope to show them for the enemies of the Republic we think they are?</p>
<p>Just askin&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Wally Lind</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wally Lind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 04:43:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rubbish, Pelosi will never be brought to account for her &quot;selective&quot; memory. She will never volunteer to testify and will never be called via subpoena. The democrats will outnumber the republicans on any commission or board, and they will never allow it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rubbish, Pelosi will never be brought to account for her &#8220;selective&#8221; memory. She will never volunteer to testify and will never be called via subpoena. The democrats will outnumber the republicans on any commission or board, and they will never allow it.</p>
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		<title>By: typos_R_us</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/conservatives-torn-on-interrogation-truth-commission/#comment-249680</link>
		<dc:creator>typos_R_us</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 00:41:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;However, I am not buying two points, the first being that enhanced interrogation doesn’t work. It has a demonstrated track record of working and it was used effectively on specified certain al queda lieutenants after corroboration that cross checked information showed they were withholding other info.&quot;

I think we differ in what the word &#039;work&#039; means.  If enhanced interrogation is working, why are there still terrorists trying to kill us?
If by working you mean any one particular attack was foiled, I say, &quot;So What&quot;?  You cannot solve the problem by defeating any one attack.  That leads to a game that you cannot win.
Moslim&#039;s have a lot more &#039;not-so-smart&#039; bombs then we have smart bombs.  Foiling one attack just means they try again some other time, some other place.  My solution to the Got-mo question is to amputate their ( any terrorist caught) left hand and right foot, then send them back home.  So instead of 97 virgins, they get a peg and a hook.  Think of how sitting in front of the moaque and begging for alms will affect recruiting.
Back in &#039;01, when the Air Force and a few CIA types were helping the northern alliance defeat the taliban, the fundies in Pakistan recruited a bunch ( 8 to 12 thousand) of jihadist from Pakistan to go to Afghanistan to help the taliban.  I think we should have done a &#039;highway of death&#039; on the convoy. If we had there wouldn&#039;t be any problem with Pakistan today and Iraq would have gone much better (quicker). 
Meanwhile, if the Demonrats do war crimes against Bush, then the next go around, the Republicans will do war crimes trials against Clinton and the Usurper.  Carter too, since his botched invasion of Iran was illegal as hell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;However, I am not buying two points, the first being that enhanced interrogation doesn’t work. It has a demonstrated track record of working and it was used effectively on specified certain al queda lieutenants after corroboration that cross checked information showed they were withholding other info.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think we differ in what the word &#8216;work&#8217; means.  If enhanced interrogation is working, why are there still terrorists trying to kill us?<br />
If by working you mean any one particular attack was foiled, I say, &#8220;So What&#8221;?  You cannot solve the problem by defeating any one attack.  That leads to a game that you cannot win.<br />
Moslim&#8217;s have a lot more &#8216;not-so-smart&#8217; bombs then we have smart bombs.  Foiling one attack just means they try again some other time, some other place.  My solution to the Got-mo question is to amputate their ( any terrorist caught) left hand and right foot, then send them back home.  So instead of 97 virgins, they get a peg and a hook.  Think of how sitting in front of the moaque and begging for alms will affect recruiting.<br />
Back in &#8217;01, when the Air Force and a few CIA types were helping the northern alliance defeat the taliban, the fundies in Pakistan recruited a bunch ( 8 to 12 thousand) of jihadist from Pakistan to go to Afghanistan to help the taliban.  I think we should have done a &#8216;highway of death&#8217; on the convoy. If we had there wouldn&#8217;t be any problem with Pakistan today and Iraq would have gone much better (quicker).<br />
Meanwhile, if the Demonrats do war crimes against Bush, then the next go around, the Republicans will do war crimes trials against Clinton and the Usurper.  Carter too, since his botched invasion of Iran was illegal as hell.</p>
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		<title>By: EdGi</title>
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		<dc:creator>EdGi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 23:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahh, broke the law (a moral compass??), giving legal opinions contrary to lefty party line is a criminal act? Obi/Holder already outed a large number of real agents for political purposes, but only Libby is a criminal? The Daniel Pearl thingee is not to be discussed, but the Al Queda cummunity organizers &quot;rights&quot; must be catered to? WoW, go for it Oby, you&#039;re bringing a back-stabber knife to a gunfight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahh, broke the law (a moral compass??), giving legal opinions contrary to lefty party line is a criminal act? Obi/Holder already outed a large number of real agents for political purposes, but only Libby is a criminal? The Daniel Pearl thingee is not to be discussed, but the Al Queda cummunity organizers &#8220;rights&#8221; must be catered to? WoW, go for it Oby, you&#8217;re bringing a back-stabber knife to a gunfight.</p>
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