Conservatives Beware — Lest You Drive Moderates to Extremism!
At times it seems like the conservatives just can’t be quelled. They’ve already scared off Arlen Specter, who, if not the heart of the Republican Party, was at least some internal organ like the appendix. Perhaps we can try and get some moderate version of Rush (but not fat and on drugs) on the air who would sound very reasonable but never take a firm stance on anything. We at least need someone to calm down those crazed conservatives and knock some sense into their thick skulls. They just need to stop acting like children who vote based on the issues. Instead, they need to be adults and support whoever has the right letter next to his name. If the Republican Party could just be indistinguishable, policy-wise, from the Democrats but get the idiot conservatives to vote for it anyway, you’d have to admit it would be unstoppable.
Perhaps it’s just a pipe dream, though. Conservatives don’t understand logic or reason. They’ll do all they can to chase away people like Colin Powell, and the Democratic Party will continue to grow in power. It may soon become so cocky that it will begin to radicalize, and then there will be no place for the moderates. With no one left to listen to their concerns they will only have one place to turn: extremism. That’s right, we’ll have the advent of moderate extremists with vacillating, half-hearted acts of terror. Like they might target a politician, but instead of assassinating him, they’d just wound him. And maybe also buy him a present to cover all bases. And we would be powerless to stop them as there would be no way to meet their incoherent and often contradictory demands.
We can’t let that happen. Moderates have always been extremely unstable — mentally unbalanced, even. That’s just part of being politically active while having no central philosophy. We don’t want them against us; the Republican Party and the country itself can’t take it. To keep the moderates from freaking out, we need to take this party back from the scary, nitwit conservatives and put their principled stands high up on a shelf where they can’t reach them. And, whatever we do, no more listening to Rush Limbaugh about the future of the Republican Party. He’s fat and on drugs.
But, then again, who are we to listen to you,
as you’ve openly admitted to getting moderately drunk only once?!
Brilliant!
(Someday, there has to be a joint “IMAO” / “People’s Cube” effort.)
Ideological purity is not going to return the Republicans to power. They will remain out of power until they become the party of freedom and liberty.
At the moment, self-described independents outnumber Republicans by a wide margin and are closing in on self-described Democrats.
That’s a pretty big hint to the RNC and other conservative leaders and pundits that their message of ideological and/or Northeastern/Beltway connections isn’t working. The Democrat ‘message’ is beginning to (epic) fail for much the same reasons.
That’s all because, other than sophistry and empty rhetoric, neither party is actually paying any attention to freedom…or to The Constitution.
If the Republicans require ideological and/or Northeastern Country Club purity within their ranks, they’ll be wandering in the political wilderness for quite some time to come. In a few years, the democrats are going to join them.
Who or what will replace them? I dunno, for certain…but it’ll be different.
I have lived overseas for many years and never listened to Rush. When the Obama administration began promoting him i purchased a year on 24/7 just to see what the fuss was about. Much to my surprise, I now podcast him daily. he is losing vast amounts of weight, treats his body as a temple and is rapidly approaching fighting trim – watch out!
Now, now, now. You won’t get too far calling Rush a fat drug addict. Weight is something that can go up or down (Rush has slimmed down a couple of times). As for drugs, I think Rush is off the stuff. Of course he doesn’t always sound like it, but he was like that before he was addicted.
Now racist, chickenhawk, and liar are features that are and will probably always be true.
Stick to the facts that won’t change.
LOL!
Dear Northern Dimbulb,
Examples please of Limbaugh’s racism?
I served as a volunteer in the military during the Vietnam war.
(My draft lottery number was 290 – too high to be drafted)
I find no conflict in Rush advocating the use of force (your ‘chikenhawk’ slander) against islamo-fascist murderers.
So by what higher authority do you challenge it?
What was your military record?
And finally when has Limbaugh lied?
Specifics if you don’t mind.
Your ‘facts’ have a lot of libtard fantasy included.
You won’t get too far spinning this bowl of crap you typed.
Very nice FJF. It Is very hard to satirize anything in this age of Obama where Islam is the solution to violence and everybody needs to tighten their belts (just like him).
Despite your creative efforts Frank, I expect 40% of your readers to take you seriously. Why, in my mind’s eye I can even see the responses of Moran and Shaw.
Frank,
(or as I like to call you scrawny, squint, squinty scrawny, scrawny)
This is the best laugh I’ve had in a long time. Yes, I agree we’ve got to rid ourselves of our principles because they are the only thing that stand between us and the whitehouse. Once we’ve rid ourselves of basic principles of decency then we’ll be almost indistinguishable from Democrats and the moderates can flip and coin and vote for Democrats or Democrats lite. In fact my dream ticket would be Colin Powell and Susan Collins. With both an African American and a woman on the ticket we could definitely win over those who care about identity politics rather than quality candidates. Quality is just another one of those principles that prevent us from seizing power. It’s got to go along with everything else.
Terry #7,
Maybe it would help folks if they went to the “IMAO” website to appreciate the author’s humor.
I’m a big fat fan of the Constitution and the Founding Fathers. Kinda leaves me out of the big tent of the Beltway GOP. I guess I’m a moderate. After all, I forgave Rush for referring to the great Jerry Garcia as, “just another dead dope addict.” Was I wrong?
“They’ve already scared off Arlen Specter, who, if not the heart of the Republican Party, was at least some internal organ like the appendix.”
Nahhh…I’m thinking muscle tissue..like the sphincter.
Man, those Republicans make me lukewarm under the collar! Well, maybe that’s too tough. Perhaps tepid is a better word. But then, I don’t want to offend anyone.
I’m sorry for the outburst. I’m almost under a lot, ummm, I mean moderate,amount of stress these days.
Golly.
The Republican Party will not become a force for good worthy of governing until it becomes the party if Individual Rights. That means limited government and a self-interested foreign policy. Until then, it is better to have an open socialist rather than a closet socialist in the White House.
What a great article! You made me laugh out loud. I kept picturing ditzy Meghan McCain while reading.
I have come to the realization that a major problem with the Left is that they are just lazy. When I read conservative authors, (Goldberg, Coulter, Levin) they will universally provide citations to the primary source documents they use to put forward their positions. No so on the Left. They will extract quotes from sources both Right and Left to support their argument, but provide no way of finding out that these quotes are out of context or even real. They know that no one on their side, or even the great mass of people in the middle, can be bothered check up on them. This is how they get away with demonizing Rush and others. They know that most of the people they are trying to reach will never get first hand knowledge of what conservatives really say. That is why they fear Rush and Fox. It is a way for the people to hear a point of view and a reality that has not been Orwellized to protect their power.
Well done, sir! Intellectual and scholarly. Perhaps the most important essay since that last one I read a few minutes ago.
I would like to see you more thoroughly develop the picture of a Moderate being driven to extremism. Instead of wagging a finger they resort to shaking a fist. (Kim Jong Il trembles) Instead of ‘tut-tut,’ they say ‘pshaw!’ It’s pretty scary stuff. I’m refurbishing that 50′s era fallout shelter in our backyard as we speak.
We will have to change our terminology to keep up with the changing times. Instead of Moderate, we’ll have to start using Post-Moderate.
To you defenders of Limbaugh (the fat druggie and his brother, too): He may appear thin and sober now, but once a adiposaholic/barbituraholic, always a fat druggie.
Republicans have a friend in Colin Powell?? Didn’t he endorse a Demo for President? It is idiotic to believe that voters want 2 identical parties. If they are truly identical does the vote become a beauty contest or just another auction for the proceeds of the US Treasury? It is as idiotic to believe that only Republicans have extremists. No mention here of the wackos on the left that dominated much of the recent campaign.
“The moderate is the lifeblood of any viable political party. There is no winning without attracting their capricious support. The moderate, though, is a delicate flower that must be cultivated carefully. Its one goal in life is to appear reasonable, but there is no reasonableness that accompanies the adamant demands of conservatives. The conservatives keep asking that the Republican Party abide by its own ideals, but nothing — nothing — scares away moderates like steadfast principles.”
Yeah, Democracy’s a b****, ain’t it? What a shame that a national political party has to craft its identity and positions around the views of a majority of diverse voters in order to win an election. What a pity that we can’t just be more like the UAE, and just allow one political faction to dictate policy. That would be one way to neutralize those pesky moderates with their stupid evolving viewpoints.
#16 I love the intellectual arguments that you and the author use to combat Rush- name calling. I assume you apply that logic to pretty much th eentire Kennedy clan?
Nah, even a sphincter plays an incredibly important and life saving role. At the very least, your neighbors are appreciative your own are working.
I was thinking Specter is something more like a new hole in the head, or a third leg.
Funny article Frank – gave me a good guffaw.
Brilliant sarcasm !!!!!!!!!!
Ditto with Thomas. More please.
ED S and others…
Please visit the IMAO “humor” website before you post further!!!
As the Buddhist proverb says “When the student is ready, the teacher will appear.”
Obama and his apparatchik minions are preparing all of the independents and moderates to move “Hard-a Starboard” (that’s right for you landlubbers.)
Just as the Carter debacle prepared people to listen to some different ideas, so it is with Obama, Byden, Pelosi, Reid, Frank, Dodd, Durban, Schumer, Murtha, Feinstein, Feingold, Rangel, Waxman, soon-to-be Franken, Boxer, Waters, Conyers, Kennedy, Kerry, Specter, Snow, Collins, McCain, Graham……………………
I have heard of overreaching but this is astounding!
Conservatives lost because they endorsed religion and started putting morality into government. Their morality. Their religion. People like me and those I know who are extremely conservative want only one agenda. That is a government so small that it takes a magnifying glass to see it. Low taxes, elimination of government in our lives would help. But when the issues are eliminating abortion and other emotional religious concerns then you lose me and others. I would just as soon see the country broke, socialist and rotten to the core rather than moral and Christian.
Awesome. Umm, I think Ed doesn’t get it. Or maybe he does and is just pulling a fast one on us…
Not only do cockroaches frequently vote but liberal/left wing/progressive cockraoches have actually been running the GOP for 8 years!
La Cucaracha, la cucaracha…..por que no tiene marijuna por fumar
The liberals in charge of the GOP the last 8 years have been smoking way too much dope. Their hard left turn 4 years ago did not infact bring moderates to the party – 2 massacres in 2 successive elections – and yet they still want the party to steer to the port! Meshugana! OY!
That is some strong weed Karl has been rolin the last few years! Very strong weed!
Pero ” Ya no puede caminar…”!
The party is dead and will not come back as long as the collectivists are on top.
PJM is most generous to allot time and space to let columnists like Fleming to vent. It’s fun to read red meat thrown into the arena, but I think I’ll take a pass on this one. There are so many erroneous assumptions and statements in this op ed piece that it would require pages to rebut.
Mr. Fleming’s got a burr up his ass and maybe he should see a proctologist and get the problem fixed. It might improve his outlook on life.
@24. sclemens:
“Obama and his apparatchik minions are preparing all of the independents and moderates to move “Hard-a Starboard” (that’s right for you landlubbers.)”
Seems more likely they are heading for “port” after the GOP storm. Demographics are moving, but not to the right….
I understand the need for enthusiasm – but the GOP is not offering what the people are looking for. The positions of the GOP are slowly fading away along with the baby boomer generation. There is a tidal wave of change coming as the youth of America replace their aging, conservative forbears. If you think Obama is liberal, you are in for a long century.
Peace.
DS
@25. David:
Amen!
Peace.
DS
David #25; You don’t have long to wait brother . You are going to get your wish.
Have a long and happy life.
That is pretty much the choice, David. Be Right, or be broke. But I have to object to your trying to impose your morality on me. You act like limited government has a greater moral worth than my getting the government to send some tanks over to your house to steal your Yugo so that I can have a second car (I don’t want the mary jane you keep in your back room). You’re being all judgemental with this ‘limited government’ stuff. Who are YOU to say stealing is wrong?
Real Change: Ban CFR and Bilderburg members from the government.
Oh, yeah, the article. It was good, very good.
Lets start a bumper sticker campaign.
“Save the Moderates!”
OR
“Carefully Consider’s Colin’s Cautions”
I’m glad that you Conservatives will continue to shun moderates. It just helps us consolidate our power. Thank you for your continued support.
To David #25 – If you truly are a Conservative who believes in freedom and smaller government, you would not want to see YOUR taxes spent on murdering a child – preventing it from enjoying its own liberty.
You sound a lot like me 20 years ago. I would love to see the focus of the Pro choice/pro life crowds focus on preventing pregnancies or saving the life of the few unwanted ones that might happen if people were being responsible. Instead, abortions are big business and continue to grow off of government (YOUR) money. Which is disgusting from a moral and Conservative viewpoint. As others have said, abortion has become a sacrament in the liberal religion.
Ultimately you will have to realize, like I did two decades ago, that no matter how you spin it, abortion is murder. And can a moral government in a free society support/encourage/pay for the murder of the most vulnerable and innocent of its citizens?
Like it or not all governments including ours has a moral foundation. Ours just happens to be a Judeo-Christian worldview that has created the most properous, tolerant and free nation on the planet to date. There are only two world forces that are forcing religion on you and both have the same source. But that’s for another discussion.
I am a Christian Conservative. I have no desire to force my belief on anyone. My faith is precious to me and I will gladly share it, but I will never insist or pressure someone to accept my beliefs. That is totally up to you. I would gladly unite under any candidate or party that agreed to a simple formula: lower taxes + smaller government + strong national defence = more freedom and prosperity for all.
You see us Christians are under assault every day. And if you were paying attention, you would see that the most intolerant people are much more likely coming from the left side of the political spectrum. I would be more concerned about losing my freedoms under the leadership of people who actually think they are god, instead of people who worship God. The latter were largely responsible for the freedoms you currently enjoy.
Harrison:“To David #25 – If you truly are a Conservative who believes in freedom and smaller government, you would not want to see YOUR taxes spent on murdering a child – preventing it from enjoying its own liberty.”
And yet you conservatives all cheered on Bush’s Iraq War, a needless military engagement in which thousands of innocent children were killed. So please tell me which leg you think you’re standing on in the morality debate? Because it appears to me that the only children you actually care about are unborn white ones. Seems kind of hypocritical to me.
#36 — If you truly are a Conservative who believes in freedom and smaller government, you would not want to see YOUR taxes spent on murdering a child – preventing it from enjoying its own liberty.
If you truly are a Conservative who believes in freedom and smaller government, you’ll agree that laws limiting the choice of women are the very opposite.
Free Hat:
You sound like someone who should be handing out poorly photocopied leaflets.
Obama is Powell’s understanding of what a “moderate” is. So, why is Mr. Fleming griping? His man won in November and now all the “moderates” and liberals can enjoy the power of commanding that the Utopia appear. Oh, and they’d love to do to us conservatives what Billy Ayers and his Weathermen said they would do to us if the revolution succeeded.
Free Hat: Here you are again spreading lies. Are you intellectually incapable of honest debate? To wit: 1.”…thousands of innocent children were killed.” References please.
2. “…the only children you actually care about are unborn white ones.” References please. This is particularly egregious. How can you even possibly conger up this thought except if you are so deluded with self-hatred and hatred for anything good.
If Iraq was so “needless” then go tell that to the millions of free Iraquis now voting and not living under the threat of death by a meglomanical tyrant. No more rape rooms is just cause enough. OMG get a clue.
THERE IS SOME REAL HOPE FOR A CHANGE
Moderates aren’t buying Obama’s act!
http://greensrealworld.blogspot.com/2009/06/americas-political-reformation-is.html
Excellent satire.
Either that’s beautiful scarcaism or Frank has gone so far round the bend that he needs a rubber room.
Besides, everyone knows that Powell sucks up to whoever is in power, why would he do differently now? Rush, well that’s another matter. He’s just an unwitting accomplice since he didin’t give a rats’ patoot about keeping HusseinO off the ballot. He needs smacked on his forhead with a wet noodle at least 39 times, then told to never again underestimate the power of stupidity bathed by a PR machine as a means to power.
Regards
33. Can’t do that, but we can do the next best thing- don’t elect CFR/Bilderberg/Trilateral members.
Yet ANOTHER ring wing lunatic with a gun, this one screaming about Jews and killing black people. How many times does this have to happen before you people admit to the lunacy you promote? If only DHS had warned us about such stuff.
According to Powell, real Republicans voted for and don’t disagree with Obama.
Can we have a little civility here?
Not likely when “libs” enter into the conversation. In a contest of ideas – they have none. Looking for a rationale thought process – not possible. But they can babel nonsense for hours about global warming , the Bush war, and those evil capitalists.
But you have to hand it to them. They are good at name calling and gawfing at locker room jokes. “Rush is a druggie.” “Shara Palin a slutty fight attendant”. Her 13 year old daughter is having sex with professional baseball players. Nothing is out of bounds when they try to marginalize people who scare them. Can you image what would have happened to Letterman if he cracked a joke about Mrs Obama or one of her kids? Letterman’s knee caps would have been introduced to Chicago politics 101.
The one thing about the “libs” there never seems to be a bottom. But I think David “the has-been” Letterman should be hands down recognized as the lowest of the low.
Imagine Bush brought democracy to Iraq and Communism to the US. When will this guy get his due?
sheesh:
The shooter’s ranting about Jews actually sounds a lot like Obama’s spiritual mentor, Jeremiah Wright. Maybe the DHS should keep an eye on Obama.
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This author is a brilliant satirist of the IMAO website.
You A§§hats!
#50 Ed Wallis – Just like the previous satirical article about cyber-monkeys, the Libs simply can’t see the humor. They take it seriously. After all, those moderate Republicans need defending by the Left. Wha-at? They should be jumping for joy when Pubs mock moderates. Knee-jerk opposition. I got a kick out the guy who criticized the false premises or somesuch. Dude, it’s a joke!
If abortion is “murdering” the unborn, why is the position NOT to hold the woman/mother accountable for charges of murder but the provider (doctor) who provides it?
At minimum, she is engaging in a contract killing.
What if the babydaddy supports the abortion and goes with the mother to the clinic? Is he not an accessory to murder as well?
Harrison @36: I understand you ChrCon view point, and agree with your statment here: “…I would love to see the focus of the Pro choice/pro life crowds focus on preventing pregnancies…”
This will take compromise:
easy accessibility to birth control (BC), (FDA-safe) Plan B, and easier access to abortions, not pushing the term of the fetus into the second (and rarely) third trimesters. I know you and I will disagree on the last point, but for both sides, reducing unwanted pregnancies is and should be a goal.
By aiding in sex education, modes of prevention, easy access to prevention and in the case of a possible whoopsie with BC, the availability of Plan B (there is only a 72-hr window available for taking Plan B, so it must be easily accessible), we can move towards a common ground of reduction for need for abortion.
And, as G Alston @38 noted: “If you truly are a Conservative who believes in freedom and smaller government, you’ll agree that laws limiting the choice of women are the very opposite.” Word, G, word.
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As for ditzy Meghan McCain — I would argue that she is a YOUNG conservative woman, educated and is writing about the positives and negatives of her party as well as the concerns of younger conservatives which are different in importance to those of older conservatives.
What was the line from Caddyshack? “The world needs ditch diggers too.” The Dems need moderates to give them votes and take their crap, which just makes them the toilet paper of politics. Keep em handy but let the grown ups do the grunt work.
Why can’t the right see the wisdom of having two parties that are virtually indistinguishable from each other?
Listen up all you Republican leaders (michael steele?) who think the road to success is getting into the democrat game of offering free lunches to sundry “identity groups” !
The conservatives keep asking that the Republican Party abide by its own ideals, but nothing — nothing — scares away moderates like steadfast principles.
Well, that’s just too bad, since if ya ain’t got principles, ya ain’t got nuttin’.
Thanks for a refreshing read !
This sentence:
“to prevent the destructive influence of conservatives and their beliefs.”
— belongs to the Democratic Underground, and other radical Commie forums.
Advice to the weak at heart:
European conservative parties overwhelming victory over the leftist, defeatist, Islamofasist alliance is largely due to their leaders’ unambitious, uncompromising stand for their belief.
Have you heard of Geert Wilders?
The whishi washi clones of Mr. J. Fleming have lost.
Why are these people so dense as to not to see that the chief weakling, McGeezer lost the election.
One of the classic liberal conceits, the knee jerkisms, apparent in a couple of comments above is that conservatism and religious right are the same thing.
I guess when you only have 12 firing neurons up there in the ole head, you naturally gravitate to such kinds of simplistic worldviews.
My goal isn’t so much “small” government (though highly limited federal government is embedded in our founding documents) as it is lean and mean government. It is the ever burgeoning federal bureaucracy (what ? Obama has added yet another layer with 15 Russian Czars ?) and thousands upon thousands of un-firable people in jobs where they push paper around, for life, well, I could write here all day as to how the crippling and ineptitude are endemic to our own current version of Jabba the Hutt federal government.
Oh, and it’s against my very soul to ever want that government to do anything at all beyond (practically) its sole job “provide for the common defense”.
Because anything that government has immersed itself in in my lifetime (medicine, education, anything) has turned to sh!t under bureaucratic meddling.
One way NOT to win over supporters is to insult your projected supporters.
Oh, btw Mr. Fleming, ain’t too many “progressive liberal” voices listening to them Blue Dog, “conservative” Democrats.
Odd Satire. It is Powell who does not find a place for Rush’s conservative values and principles in the Republican party.
As soon as the General retired, he denounced Bush Administration in unflattering ways in the media.
Thanks to President Obama, The RNC, will be stronger and more conservative at the end of his Catastrohpic term.
Mr. Powell is an elitist. Rush and Mr. Cheney are Patriots.
Marc Malone (51) “… the Libs simply can’t see the humor.”
Libs thinks humor is supposed to target and hurt someone. The more narrowly defined as when targeting an individual, and the more it is intended to hurt as in jokes about a 13 year old girl, the better. Should any choose to say it isn’t so, consider the reactions Women’s’ Liberation leaders have had in the past over even insinuations about a female of any age. No liberal I have ever met held any of their beliefs in sufficient regard to defend a non-liberal who held the same beliefs in the same context. It just isn’t done. Being critical of those who sink to a new low isn’t permitted, either. Only when they are sure that the absolute bottom has been reached can they insist restraints be mandated by the appropriate and liberally sanctioned government entity.
Al Gore and his wife used the same approach to raise themselves through party ranks and gain the VP slot by taking on the music industry five years after conservatives had become shocked, then insulted for even suggesting music be restrained as comic books once were. We’re not at the bottom yet, but never fear, there is already a plan sitting in someone’s’ cabinet for what and who will have to be regulated in order to return us to a civil society.
Do you really think that it’s a coincidence that when Rush angers liberals, liberals start hunting for a new bottom? I don’t, I think it is the same old tactics. Never forget, to the vast majority of those who like to call themselves “Progressives”, everything they do, even lunch and entertainment, must serve the greater cause. Only then will you cease to be amazed at liberals over anything. To them, everything is connected to building a new society, even sex if you read recent suggestions that anyone who isn’t for them won’t be against them either.
Regards
Here Here #56. Protect the citizens, promote free trade, and stay out of our personal lives, business and property as long as we are not infringing on the rights (enumerated in the Bill of Rights) of others. Health care, housing, and jobs are not rights, but obligations or privledges.
49. Frank J . . . “The shooter’s ranting about Jews actually sounds a lot like Obama’s spiritual mentor, Jeremiah Wright. Maybe the DHS should keep an eye on Obama.”
Here’s a thought, try to consider something at face value, on its own relevance. All the right does is whine about liberals “trying to establish moral equivalency” . . . well, if you don’t like it, don’t do it.
Yeah, but, but, but . . . MUSTARD!
Powell a moderate … that’s rich …
… p-s-st! … both parties are dead. They represent people of this country the way Wal-Mart represents “free trade.”
We’re staring a world-wide calamity of biblical proportions in the face and does anyone now still think that it wasn’t either of these parties that have been, for the most part, complicit in helping to bring this on?
Sit here and discuss performances of those actors as politicians will display, but if you don’t vote “for” an independent, you’re simply either a stooge for either R or D party.
COTO knows …
“I would just as soon see the country broke, socialist and rotten to the core rather than moral and Christian.”
What can you say about this? His hatred of christians outweighs anything else. He has been so brainwashed by the popular culture that he cannot make crucial distinctions about morality. Christian morality has been a strong influence in our nation since it was founded and has gotten us where we are today. Liberal morality was a strong influence in the rise of communism and nazism and we know where that led. Get your head out of your ass and see the bigger picture. Isn’t it funny how the only group he truly hates are Christians. What a coward. I would rather live in a neighborhood full of Christians than a neighborhood full of liberals any day.
He is, I saw his website. He has pictures of himself dreaming about hate f**ks with conservative women while watching videos of aborted babies and in the background is a big pile of kill your baby leaflets.
It took me until the second paragraph to realize the sarcasm, but I just got home from a 10-hour day of staring at computer screens. But apparently I’m still ahead of some here.
Lighten up people.
“I notice that everybody who is Pro-Abortion has already been born.” – Ronald Reagan
sheesh:
I did take it on its face value and relevance; hence my dismissive nature. Are you really so deluded as to think you made a smart point rather than just an infantile screech of anger?
“Conservatives lost because they endorsed religion and started putting morality into government.”
Well, one thing is for sure, you don’t have to worry about liberals putting morality into government.
“Why can’t the right see the wisdom of having two parties that are virtually indistinguishable from each other?”
There are some ways in which the two parties should be virtually indistinguishable. Both should be firmly and uncompromisingly committed to the protection of individual rights – liberty, voluntary trade, private property, and the rest.
That we have one party that is explicitly opposed to them and another that defends them weakly on alternate Tuesdays if it isn’t raining too hard is the reason we have such serious problems.
67 Frank J . . . I called you out on your inability to address reality. It stung. You don’t like to admit it when the clowns on your side (continually) display the violent racist behavior and philosophical contradictions that define conservatism.
My prediction? You or others will respond with, “Oh yeah, well what about XYZ liberal? They were violent and racist! They contradicted themselves!” just as you did with your Reverend Wright comment. The challenge you face, and the reason no one in America cares what the right thinks anymore, is your complete and utter failure to take accountability . . . for anything.
You are inapable of saying, “Yep, you’re right. We should stop this overblown aand inciteful rheotric. It’s not helpful and may be pushing some people over the edge. Maybe if we weren’t such inflammatory doomsayers, that poor security guard at the Holocaust Museum would be alive.” But you can’t do that. I don’t blame you, you’re just another squishy mushy malcontent whipped into a state of frenzied victimhood and intellectual dishonesty by 8 years of “What, me? Wasn’t me. Nope. Mistakes? Gee, I can’t think of any. Was I drunk when I shot my friend in the face? Nope. WMDs? We know exactly where they are.”
The right wing conservative movement has created a culture of acceptable lying and dishonesty. And you’re the result . . . the foot soldier in the war of falsehoods, ignorant emotional squeezy toys programmed by charlatans like Limbaugh and Hannity and Cheney and Gingrich. You really should try thinking for yourself someday. It’s fun! It’s easy! And best of all, chicks dig it!
Now, before you go off half-cocked (which may be unavoidable in your case), think about this question . . . Who do I believe speaks the truth? Who exhibits consistent and admirable principles? Who should rise up and bear witness to the conservative way of life? Who is your leader? Your guru? Who has the answer? Who has a vision? Who can rally Americans from all walks of life to join a common cause?
I always enjoy Sheesh. He is such an great check for my moral compass.
Although always attributing things that the Democrats have been doing since 1980 to Repbulicans now is a little old.
As to the last paragraph I don’t see anyone on either party. I only see demigogues. That is the sad fact.
That so many people hate the America of the 19th and 20th centuries and want any change they can possibly get no matter what it is is another sad fact.
Sheesh! Sheesh,
YOU are such a buzzkill. If you hate us so much why do you keep inviting yourself to our parties? Nice projection though, all that drivel about principles and gurus and stuff, topped off by the gold standard of all lefty hypocrisy, thinking for yourself – - something no one could accuse you of. I read more than I comment and let me tell you, any unallied observer comparing your posts to Frank J for originality would find it laughably lopsided, not in your favor.
True to Alinsky rule 12 you demonstrate without fail that you lack the capacity to join a conversation without insult or ridicule. This was evidenced today by the fact that, for no other apparent reason, you felt compelled to bring up race.
Keep posting though. It is reassuring to us diehard conservatives to have such a rich and accurate foil in our midst. Your inability to discern Republicans from conservatives, and conservatives from the religious, keeps us from harboring the illussion that you might ever be open to the possibility that the principles binding those seprate strains is the superior of our competing ideologies. Principles? Nothing too complicated, all pretty well spelled out in a 2700 + or – word document we call the constitution.
Anyone deluded enough to catagorize George Bush as conservative, let alone actually believe Barack Obama was qualified enought to be President, is beyond hopeless and way out their league in this or any serious conservative dialogue.
Liberals blabber a lot about TOLERENCE but certianly dont ever practice it
Just a final point about the Limbaugh/Powell question which is really a small part of the whole moderate/hardline question.
Sveral weeks ao I thought it would be a great idea to have Rush and Colin run for the GOP nomination for a senate seat in an important swing state. The Republicans need to be viable in the large swing states that seems to always decide presidential elections and having them compete head to head would help decide the question of whether the party should move to the center or the right. Of course, this is never going to happen. Neither man seems too interested in leaving the sidelines and actually getting into the game. It’s a pity because I would find a contest like that to be very exciting.
So in lieu of Limbaugh and Powell, we have an interesting contest shaping up in Florida. Nobody can dispute the importance of a state like Florida for Republicans and although Rush and Colin aren’t going to compete the contest is shaping up to be the showdown I was looking for. Instead of Limbaugh/Powell, the standard bearer’s for the two factions are Charlie Crist and Marco Rubio. Crist has support from the usual party insiders and high RINO appeal. Rubio has support from key interest groups and a potetial army of dedicated conservatives. Crist will have large donors while Rubio will have an abundance of people willing to write $100 checks.
Personally I think Crist will win (poll numbers look pretty good for him), but this is really a double or nothing proposition. Whoever wins the nomination will have to prove themselves in the election itself. A Crist win in the primaries followed by defeat in the election will hurt the moderate cause. The same can be said for Rubio and conservatism. Although a Republican senate win won’t be conclusive proof that one facction is better than the other, a loss will be a setback to whichever faction wins the primary. You can count on whoever loses the primary to say “See I told you so”. If the winner can’t carry the state.
I don’t know much about which senate seats are up for grabs in 2010, but for the GOP what happens in Florida, win or lose, will be a major indicator of which direction the party should take. As someone who watches this sort of thing like many watch their favorite sport, I can’t wait for this showdown.
If only the Republican conservatives weren’t such Buzzkills! If the Republicans would just move a little more left it would open enough room on the right for the Libertians to start winning some elections. It would also strengthen the Democrat Party’s nstural extremely liberal facist constituancy. Their opposition would split along the Teddy Roocevelt/Taft country club line.
Wow…sheesh, did you step in some sheesh? You seem a little high strung there. Lighten up before you go all liberal jihad on us!
76 Ms Attitude . . . Aren’t you supposed to be on vacation?
LOLZ Dude you need to go read something on logically fallacious arguments. You opened ad hominum for instance. If your argument is valid you should not have to resort to such tactics. If comedy was the point, Webster defined as a humorous discourse intended to amuse , you had an epic fail a’la Ms. Sykes at the White House. Go watch your George Carlin tapes for a few days and try again.
Moderates vs. Conservatives is feud being fought for no good reason.
This is the solution to make both sides happy:
BRING HOME THE POLITICIANS!
Enough of saying “Enough is Enough” It’s time to bring them home!
We, hereby, demand and will pursue the relocation of all US Representatives and Senators to spend no less than 75% of their time in elected office in our State Capitals to telecommute via secured phone, fax, email, and web conference with their federal counterparts.
On the Local level, State Representatives and Senators will be relocated to spend no less than 75% of their time in elected office in the City Halls or Court Houses of our Districts to likewise telecommute with their state counterparts.
This will essentially “embed” politicians among the people they’re supposed to represent
allowing them to always be informed with our communities’ positions on each issue and
be within close reach to voice our opposition when necessary.
Restores Balance of Power – Citizens are put back in charge of this country.
Nonpartisan – This plan favors no political party since all need to be reigned in.
Anti-Lobbying – Lobbyists spend most of their budget on travel expenses.
Reduce Corruption – Citizens/Local Media resume their role as government watch dog.
Cost Effective – The cost of upgrading state and local facilities for this plan is dwarfed by the savings from stopping out of control government spending.
National Security – Any natural disaster or assault on DC would be far less catastrophic because it would be taking down only one server on a grid of 51.
If not now, then when? From this day forth when you hear someone
complaining about the government, tell them to:
“BRING HOME THE POLITICIANS!”
Here’s the official site:
http://www.bringhomethepoliticians.com/
Petition site:
http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/bringhomethep...
YouTube promo clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHpJxRIh8hQ
Hillarious. Especially the part about Rush Limbaugh (Fat,Fat,Fat/Drugs,Drugs,Drugs)