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		<title>By: 888</title>
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		<dc:creator>888</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 19:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I highly doubt if this would happen, but I would like the CPAC participants to have a frank, candid and open discussion about the participants&#039; opinion on why it is that the mainstream media will not report on the various lawsuits against Obama which center on his failure to prove that he is, indeed, a natural-born US citizen.  Until he provides that proof, he is, and continues to be, in strict violation of the United States Constitution.  I believe this is not discussed anywhere on the tube because everyone fears it will cause all-out panic and total hate and disgust for Obama because of the millions of dollars, time and effort given to him by his millions of supporters to get to where he&#039;s illegally ascended to.  

The news that an active duty Army officer is questioning Obama&#039;s eligibility for the presidency and has included his name on one of the lawsuits against Obama should be news to all of America, but the lies, deception and cover-up continues.  Here&#039;s where you&#039;ll see this courageous soldier committed to exposing the truth about Obama: 
http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&amp;pageId=89837</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I highly doubt if this would happen, but I would like the CPAC participants to have a frank, candid and open discussion about the participants&#8217; opinion on why it is that the mainstream media will not report on the various lawsuits against Obama which center on his failure to prove that he is, indeed, a natural-born US citizen.  Until he provides that proof, he is, and continues to be, in strict violation of the United States Constitution.  I believe this is not discussed anywhere on the tube because everyone fears it will cause all-out panic and total hate and disgust for Obama because of the millions of dollars, time and effort given to him by his millions of supporters to get to where he&#8217;s illegally ascended to.  </p>
<p>The news that an active duty Army officer is questioning Obama&#8217;s eligibility for the presidency and has included his name on one of the lawsuits against Obama should be news to all of America, but the lies, deception and cover-up continues.  Here&#8217;s where you&#8217;ll see this courageous soldier committed to exposing the truth about Obama:<br />
<a href="http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&#038;pageId=89837" rel="nofollow">http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&#038;pageId=89837</a></p>
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		<title>By: SarahB</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/conservatism-20-conference-at-cpac-needs-your-input/#comment-210346</link>
		<dc:creator>SarahB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 15:12:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kywrite: that is good advice (calm down) it&#039;s not good to feel that anger - hard on the heart.  But I&#039;ll tell you one damn thing, the republicans are beyond arrogant if they think that conservatives (real conservatives, not faux conservatives) will support Mitt Romney in &#039;12.  If they don&#039;t get behind true conservatives like Sarah Palin and Bobby Jindal or others, they need to know that they can do with their party.  

We&#039;ve been pleading and begging with the republicans for years to honor our national sovereignty and close the borders, to address the issues that are destroying the public education system, to stand up to the aethists who are hell bent on destroying our country, hells bells just to stand up for conservative values, preserving the family unit, valuing the study of western civilization and its contributions to the world, this list could go on forever with all the issues the faux cons are afraid of.  

I admire Newt Gingrich very much but I am extremely skeptical about the possibility of success of his grass roots movement. He has not been able to successfully challenge the faux cons in other areas.  We must find other avenues to attack the left, the old ways don&#039;t work.  By old ways, I mean the usual mantras of voting them out of office, volunteering with local boards of elections, sending emails, making appointments with congressional reps to discuss issues, writing letters.  If these tactics worked the left would not be in office.  

As conservatives we have to face the fact that we need new more creative ways to attack the enemies of our country.  The left is the enemy and many of us act as if it is comprised of mature adults who think logically and act reasonably.  

The left is not any of those things.  It despises this country, its citizens, and everything we stand for. They are interested in power pure and simple. The left cloaks itself in concern for the poor, the disadvantaged, the disenfranchised but that is an act to garner votes from those very people who have placed their hope in the left not realizing they ultimately will be sold out. 

Conservatives need to get their collective head out of their a**es and face facts. We must engage the enemy head on. We want the battle to be about logic, reason, fact, truth.  

The left is not interested in those. The left is about emotion. It appeals to people who for whatever reason are not mature and do not understand an adult&#039;s outlook on life.  Witness the ObeMessiah&#039;s effect on crowds of leftists. Sad yet terrifying to think this cult is in power.  Remember, even losers win some of the time.  We are about to get a huge dose of losers running this country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kywrite: that is good advice (calm down) it&#8217;s not good to feel that anger &#8211; hard on the heart.  But I&#8217;ll tell you one damn thing, the republicans are beyond arrogant if they think that conservatives (real conservatives, not faux conservatives) will support Mitt Romney in &#8217;12.  If they don&#8217;t get behind true conservatives like Sarah Palin and Bobby Jindal or others, they need to know that they can do with their party.  </p>
<p>We&#8217;ve been pleading and begging with the republicans for years to honor our national sovereignty and close the borders, to address the issues that are destroying the public education system, to stand up to the aethists who are hell bent on destroying our country, hells bells just to stand up for conservative values, preserving the family unit, valuing the study of western civilization and its contributions to the world, this list could go on forever with all the issues the faux cons are afraid of.  </p>
<p>I admire Newt Gingrich very much but I am extremely skeptical about the possibility of success of his grass roots movement. He has not been able to successfully challenge the faux cons in other areas.  We must find other avenues to attack the left, the old ways don&#8217;t work.  By old ways, I mean the usual mantras of voting them out of office, volunteering with local boards of elections, sending emails, making appointments with congressional reps to discuss issues, writing letters.  If these tactics worked the left would not be in office.  </p>
<p>As conservatives we have to face the fact that we need new more creative ways to attack the enemies of our country.  The left is the enemy and many of us act as if it is comprised of mature adults who think logically and act reasonably.  </p>
<p>The left is not any of those things.  It despises this country, its citizens, and everything we stand for. They are interested in power pure and simple. The left cloaks itself in concern for the poor, the disadvantaged, the disenfranchised but that is an act to garner votes from those very people who have placed their hope in the left not realizing they ultimately will be sold out. </p>
<p>Conservatives need to get their collective head out of their a**es and face facts. We must engage the enemy head on. We want the battle to be about logic, reason, fact, truth.  </p>
<p>The left is not interested in those. The left is about emotion. It appeals to people who for whatever reason are not mature and do not understand an adult&#8217;s outlook on life.  Witness the ObeMessiah&#8217;s effect on crowds of leftists. Sad yet terrifying to think this cult is in power.  Remember, even losers win some of the time.  We are about to get a huge dose of losers running this country.</p>
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		<title>By: EgregiousCharles</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/conservatism-20-conference-at-cpac-needs-your-input/#comment-210286</link>
		<dc:creator>EgregiousCharles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 13:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guys, this appears to be largely a Pajamas Media effort, done by volunteers in their doubtless scant free time from paying work.  Cut the criticism; do better if you want it done better.

But I&#039;m with G. Alston in that I&#039;m not joining Facebook.

The list of proposed topics looks pretty good to me as a wish list; I&#039;m for more freedom everywhere.  Facebook  commenter Laura beat me to the point I was going to make: instead of opposing/promoting legal same/sex marriages, get government to stop defining marriage at all.  Government should define only civil unions, churches define marriage.  Government definitions have already done great harm to Christian marriage through divorce law.  Government definitions of marriage and when a marriage ends are different than religious definitions, and in fact can only match some but not all religions.  Therefore, the government definition is in violation of the First Amendment, just as it would be if they were defining prayer.

Christians gave us the First Amendment to protect Christians against government interference in religion; something they were all too familiar with in Europe at the time.  It&#039;s the right way to deal with judicially-imposed gay marriage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys, this appears to be largely a Pajamas Media effort, done by volunteers in their doubtless scant free time from paying work.  Cut the criticism; do better if you want it done better.</p>
<p>But I&#8217;m with G. Alston in that I&#8217;m not joining Facebook.</p>
<p>The list of proposed topics looks pretty good to me as a wish list; I&#8217;m for more freedom everywhere.  Facebook  commenter Laura beat me to the point I was going to make: instead of opposing/promoting legal same/sex marriages, get government to stop defining marriage at all.  Government should define only civil unions, churches define marriage.  Government definitions have already done great harm to Christian marriage through divorce law.  Government definitions of marriage and when a marriage ends are different than religious definitions, and in fact can only match some but not all religions.  Therefore, the government definition is in violation of the First Amendment, just as it would be if they were defining prayer.</p>
<p>Christians gave us the First Amendment to protect Christians against government interference in religion; something they were all too familiar with in Europe at the time.  It&#8217;s the right way to deal with judicially-imposed gay marriage.</p>
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		<title>By: imaCapitalist2</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/conservatism-20-conference-at-cpac-needs-your-input/#comment-209389</link>
		<dc:creator>imaCapitalist2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 07:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>putting parents back in charge of their kid&#039;s educational outcome.  When parents choose kids win.  Illegal Immigration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>putting parents back in charge of their kid&#8217;s educational outcome.  When parents choose kids win.  Illegal Immigration.</p>
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		<title>By: kywrite</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/conservatism-20-conference-at-cpac-needs-your-input/#comment-209050</link>
		<dc:creator>kywrite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 17:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SarahB, calm down. This is an attempt to go to the grassroots, something Newt Gingrich has been working on behind the scenes for at least four years, and it&#039;s not the only one. Go out and check his website, newt.org, to see some genuinely encouraging stuff. Michael Steele fired the whole top echelon of the Republican National Committee, and is quietly working with Gingrich to rebuild the party.

Most Republicans are pissed at the party. It&#039;s time for us to throw almost all the bums out, Dems and Republicans alike. We can start with the RINOs, and move forward from there. 

If the grassroots all respond emotionally, instead of taking the time to genuinely try to get this new revolution started, we will continue spinning our wheels while corruption stays right there at the top. We have a perfect opportunity right now to take our country back. Let&#039;s do it, using the Dem&#039;s own grassroots-mobilization tools against them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SarahB, calm down. This is an attempt to go to the grassroots, something Newt Gingrich has been working on behind the scenes for at least four years, and it&#8217;s not the only one. Go out and check his website, newt.org, to see some genuinely encouraging stuff. Michael Steele fired the whole top echelon of the Republican National Committee, and is quietly working with Gingrich to rebuild the party.</p>
<p>Most Republicans are pissed at the party. It&#8217;s time for us to throw almost all the bums out, Dems and Republicans alike. We can start with the RINOs, and move forward from there. </p>
<p>If the grassroots all respond emotionally, instead of taking the time to genuinely try to get this new revolution started, we will continue spinning our wheels while corruption stays right there at the top. We have a perfect opportunity right now to take our country back. Let&#8217;s do it, using the Dem&#8217;s own grassroots-mobilization tools against them.</p>
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		<title>By: deguello</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/conservatism-20-conference-at-cpac-needs-your-input/#comment-209048</link>
		<dc:creator>deguello</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 17:49:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>G. Alston : You are a fairly polished liar;why blog here? I&#039;m sure the NYTimes would like to have you on board.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>G. Alston : You are a fairly polished liar;why blog here? I&#8217;m sure the NYTimes would like to have you on board.</p>
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		<title>By: streetsmart</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/conservatism-20-conference-at-cpac-needs-your-input/#comment-209026</link>
		<dc:creator>streetsmart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 17:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a clue Ricky boy. 

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2009/02/not_one_of_us.html

To G Alston: trolls like you don&#039;t count. Go back to kos and moooo on to spread your manure.  

You better count on emotional factual responses from real patriots who love this country more than anything with the exception of God and family.  

Thousands of mortgage holders walked into banks pretending to make higher salaries than they actually made and the banks went along with the lie.  Of course they can&#039;t pay, they don&#039;t make the income they claimed.  So get out of the house dumbass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a clue Ricky boy. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2009/02/not_one_of_us.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2009/02/not_one_of_us.html</a></p>
<p>To G Alston: trolls like you don&#8217;t count. Go back to kos and moooo on to spread your manure.  </p>
<p>You better count on emotional factual responses from real patriots who love this country more than anything with the exception of God and family.  </p>
<p>Thousands of mortgage holders walked into banks pretending to make higher salaries than they actually made and the banks went along with the lie.  Of course they can&#8217;t pay, they don&#8217;t make the income they claimed.  So get out of the house dumbass.</p>
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		<title>By: Renna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Renna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 14:31:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Republican Party must return to its principles - &quot;people are their principles, Hubble&quot;(The way We Were - Barbra Streisand and Robert Redford - what hippocrits they were and continue to be)

This country has a constitution - there are groups out there(Give Me Liberty) who have been defending the constitution for years WITHOUT public support from Republicans. Although I did not support Ron Paul and do not ascribe to many of the &quot;kooky&quot; tactics they employ, the meat of their message is THE CONSTITUTION. If we can harness their passion and neutralize the undesirable actions, we could make a difference and an impact on our leadership.

We must have CONFIDENCE, COURAGE, DETERMINATION, FACTS and spokespersons who can articulate the message and are groomed to punch that message through all liberal effort to speak through them and garble their words. We MUST support those who speak out responsibly and honestly and not abandon them in their hour of need(Sarah Palin - Newt Gingrich) when the MSM attacks and distorts them.

There MUST BE LEGISLATION THAT SUSPENDS VOTING PRIVILEGES OF THOSE WHO ARE LIVING OFF OF THE TAXPAYER(Excludes those LEGITIMATELY determined to be physically and mentally in need) Once they no longer live off of the taxpayer - their voting privilege is reinstated.

If we want to be racially mature - we must get rid of organizations that perpetually reinforce racial divide - Number one on that list should be THE CONGRESSIONAL BLACK CAUCUS in the bowels of Washington. Black Entertainment network should be exposed for perpetuating racial unrest.Any other group or organization that promotes racial tension and divide - ACORN must stop receiving federal funding as long as they promote dependence on welfare - having a home you cannot afford, etc.

Most of all - we need to see and hear some fighting effort from Republicans, Libertarians and Conservatives to protect and defend America -</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Republican Party must return to its principles &#8211; &#8220;people are their principles, Hubble&#8221;(The way We Were &#8211; Barbra Streisand and Robert Redford &#8211; what hippocrits they were and continue to be)</p>
<p>This country has a constitution &#8211; there are groups out there(Give Me Liberty) who have been defending the constitution for years WITHOUT public support from Republicans. Although I did not support Ron Paul and do not ascribe to many of the &#8220;kooky&#8221; tactics they employ, the meat of their message is THE CONSTITUTION. If we can harness their passion and neutralize the undesirable actions, we could make a difference and an impact on our leadership.</p>
<p>We must have CONFIDENCE, COURAGE, DETERMINATION, FACTS and spokespersons who can articulate the message and are groomed to punch that message through all liberal effort to speak through them and garble their words. We MUST support those who speak out responsibly and honestly and not abandon them in their hour of need(Sarah Palin &#8211; Newt Gingrich) when the MSM attacks and distorts them.</p>
<p>There MUST BE LEGISLATION THAT SUSPENDS VOTING PRIVILEGES OF THOSE WHO ARE LIVING OFF OF THE TAXPAYER(Excludes those LEGITIMATELY determined to be physically and mentally in need) Once they no longer live off of the taxpayer &#8211; their voting privilege is reinstated.</p>
<p>If we want to be racially mature &#8211; we must get rid of organizations that perpetually reinforce racial divide &#8211; Number one on that list should be THE CONGRESSIONAL BLACK CAUCUS in the bowels of Washington. Black Entertainment network should be exposed for perpetuating racial unrest.Any other group or organization that promotes racial tension and divide &#8211; ACORN must stop receiving federal funding as long as they promote dependence on welfare &#8211; having a home you cannot afford, etc.</p>
<p>Most of all &#8211; we need to see and hear some fighting effort from Republicans, Libertarians and Conservatives to protect and defend America -</p>
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		<title>By: R. George Dunn</title>
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		<dc:creator>R. George Dunn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 11:52:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the dissenting voices above comes advise, do not sit on your haunches and rely on the disenfranchised American to get a foul taste in their mouth of where the Democrats are leading.  This has been the game plan too long resulting in two steps back one forward.  We are now near being full pledged Communism, just like that.
 
Priorities in order of need:
1.  Close the borders for fiscal sake
2.  Change the tax structure to consumption for Fiscal survival and to bring jobs back to this country, jobs that will sustain a family, Fair Tax Plan to be precise
3.  Make it a security priority to get off foreign energy from not on our continent while at the same time, prove carbon to be our friend.
4.  Speak to social conservative issues as unquestionable for the party platform, removing what Muslims are finding so objectionable, immorality, not because they object, but because God INSISTS!
5.  Teach State Sovereignty per the Constitution, better yet teach the Constitution as the Supreme Law of the Land, as written.

Taking on too much at one time is not fruitful.  Centering on these above will be enough to save this Nation.  Otherwise, the EURO Coin will be ours and our helmets will be blue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the dissenting voices above comes advise, do not sit on your haunches and rely on the disenfranchised American to get a foul taste in their mouth of where the Democrats are leading.  This has been the game plan too long resulting in two steps back one forward.  We are now near being full pledged Communism, just like that.</p>
<p>Priorities in order of need:<br />
1.  Close the borders for fiscal sake<br />
2.  Change the tax structure to consumption for Fiscal survival and to bring jobs back to this country, jobs that will sustain a family, Fair Tax Plan to be precise<br />
3.  Make it a security priority to get off foreign energy from not on our continent while at the same time, prove carbon to be our friend.<br />
4.  Speak to social conservative issues as unquestionable for the party platform, removing what Muslims are finding so objectionable, immorality, not because they object, but because God INSISTS!<br />
5.  Teach State Sovereignty per the Constitution, better yet teach the Constitution as the Supreme Law of the Land, as written.</p>
<p>Taking on too much at one time is not fruitful.  Centering on these above will be enough to save this Nation.  Otherwise, the EURO Coin will be ours and our helmets will be blue.</p>
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		<title>By: G Alston</title>
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		<dc:creator>G Alston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 07:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SarahB -- &lt;i&gt;3. Housing Bail Out: Those of us who both pay our mortgages and pay our taxes, while we are working hard and playing by the rules, there were a lot of irresponsible people spending more than they had and getting in way over their heads, and now those irresponsible people are having to be bailed out by the people that are responsible and playing by the rules.&lt;/i&gt;

It might help if you dealt with facts rather than go off the deep emotional end.

Almost all mortgage problems are concentrated in 5 states including CA, NY, and FL. These problems by and large may have been initially precipitated by irresponsible LENDERS but falling home values have forced a lot of hardworking responsible types who were happily paying their mortgages into a sort of insolvency (their $300k house they owe $225k on is now valued at maybe $120k, far less than what they owe.) These are the people whom the bailout proposals are targeting. They are stuck in a position where they can&#039;t sell their house and financially are in no different shape if they hand back the keys as continue payment -- through no fault of their own. The problem is the falling home values, not the &quot;irresponsible&quot; homeowners.

Your assertions of irresponsible behaviour are mere fear mongering and muckraking of the worst sort. You sound like the very epitome of the left&#039;s characterisations of GOP voters being ignorant reactionaries. I sure hope you don&#039;t get any press; you&#039;re going to paint *all* republicans as imbeciles.

Oh. And have a nice day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SarahB &#8212; <i>3. Housing Bail Out: Those of us who both pay our mortgages and pay our taxes, while we are working hard and playing by the rules, there were a lot of irresponsible people spending more than they had and getting in way over their heads, and now those irresponsible people are having to be bailed out by the people that are responsible and playing by the rules.</i></p>
<p>It might help if you dealt with facts rather than go off the deep emotional end.</p>
<p>Almost all mortgage problems are concentrated in 5 states including CA, NY, and FL. These problems by and large may have been initially precipitated by irresponsible LENDERS but falling home values have forced a lot of hardworking responsible types who were happily paying their mortgages into a sort of insolvency (their $300k house they owe $225k on is now valued at maybe $120k, far less than what they owe.) These are the people whom the bailout proposals are targeting. They are stuck in a position where they can&#8217;t sell their house and financially are in no different shape if they hand back the keys as continue payment &#8212; through no fault of their own. The problem is the falling home values, not the &#8220;irresponsible&#8221; homeowners.</p>
<p>Your assertions of irresponsible behaviour are mere fear mongering and muckraking of the worst sort. You sound like the very epitome of the left&#8217;s characterisations of GOP voters being ignorant reactionaries. I sure hope you don&#8217;t get any press; you&#8217;re going to paint *all* republicans as imbeciles.</p>
<p>Oh. And have a nice day.</p>
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