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July 16, 2010 - 6:43 am

I started following some posts on Pick Up Artists (PUA) at a href=”http://www.theatlantic.com/personal/archive/2010/07/pickup-artists-the-girliest-of-men/59578/”Megan McArdle’s place/a and saw a href=”http://voxday.blogspot.com/2010/07/lest-you-wonder.html”that Vox Day/a and a href=”http://roissy.wordpress.com/2010/07/13/aging-urban-broads-the-manliest-of-women/”Roissy had joined in/a to argue about whether or not PUA’s are “girlie men” (Megan McArdle seems to think they are). I don’t think PUAs are “girlie men,” but if they are, so what? They are just using sexual power like women always have and now the women are upset that their turf is being invaded. br /br /Great topic but instead of spending time reading their posts, I got sucked into a quiz at Roissy’s place. For those of you not familiar with his work, Roissy is a blogger who discusses the techniques of PUAs. If you are not familiar with this dating approach, check out books such as Neil Strauss’s a href=”http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0060554738?ie=UTF8tag=wwwviolentkicomlinkCode=as2camp=1789creative=9325creativeASIN=0060554738″span style=”font-style:italic;”The Game: Penetrating the Secret Society of Pickup Artists/span/aimg src=”http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=wwwviolentkicoml=as2o=1a=0060554738″ width=”1″ height=”1″ border=”0″ alt=”" style=”border:none !important; margin:0px !important;” / or Mystery’s a href=”http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0312360118?ie=UTF8tag=wwwviolentkicomlinkCode=as2camp=1789creative=9325creativeASIN=0312360118″span style=”font-style:italic;”The Mystery Method: How to Get Beautiful Women Into Bed./span/aimg src=”http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=wwwviolentkicoml=as2o=1a=0312360118″ width=”1″ height=”1″ border=”0″ alt=”" style=”border:none !important; margin:0px !important;” /br /br /a href=”http://roissy.wordpress.com/dating-market-value-test-for-women/”So I took the quiz at his place/a on the “Dating Value of Women.” I know, I’m married, but it sounded like fun, so why not? With my low score, it turns out, I’m a “classic beta female:”br /br /blockquote-4 to 14: Classic beta. Your hot friends always gets hit on first, but if you really tramp it up you can snag a slightly better than average guy to take you home for a single night of commitment./blockquotebr /Apparently, I would be a real loser on the dating scene. Funny, that’s not how my dating life was when I was younger, but then, I was probably too much of a beta to see it. Seriously, I think this quiz is pretty invalid for some people. It doesn’t take into account outliers who do not fit the criteria. Apparently, alpha females don’t curse, have an average to just above average (but no higher IQ), and wear heels over three inches.br /br /None of those traits describe me. I never thought of myself as a beta female but I guess I’ll just have to get used to it. It seems to have brought me happiness so far,and having to stop cursing and wear high-heeled shoes would make me miserable. br /br /Truthfully, the test is chauvinistic towards women and gives high scores to men without manners, but then, maybe men who are picking up women want sterotypically feminine women and women want jerky guys. Go take the test if you would like to know if you are alpha or beta on the dating scene. a href=”http://roissy.wordpress.com/dating-market-value-test-for-women/”If female, go here/a or a href=”http://roissy.wordpress.com/dating-market-value-test-for-men/”if male, go here,/a and if you are brave enough, share the results with us.br /br /Update: Ann Althouse: a href=”http://althouse.blogspot.com/2010/07/dating-market-value-test-for-women.html”"Fuck that test.” /aNeither one of us is going to make it as an alpha.

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