Come November, Remember Yesterday’s ‘Temporary Restraining Order’ in Arizona
Most of the places I go to do serious business here in the U.S. require me to prove who I am. I am required to provide official identification if I want to:
- Vote
- Apply for a job
- Enter a contest
- Get a driver’s license
- Apply for a loan or any other type of credit
- Open a bank account and take money out of said account
- Write a check for goods and services at various businesses
In fact, when applying for employment, one of the questions almost every employer will ask is if you are eligible to work legally in the U.S., either as a full-fledged citizen or a legal alien with a green card.
The few times I’ve been pulled over by the police for driving infractions, I’ve also been asked to provide not just my driver’s license, but proof of having registered my car and proof of current insurance on that car.
All of these are things that I and other law-abiding citizens do on a routine basis with little fuss or whining. We accept that if we want to live in society, we must have certain laws to keep order, and in order for society to run smoothly, we abide by them. If we don’t, we accept that there will be consequences for our actions.
So I’m frankly astounded that the immigration law in Arizona, which is supposed to go into effect this week, has not only created so much so-called controversy but has prompted the federal government to pursue a lawsuit against the state. And now, a federal judge has issued a temporary restraining order that nullifies parts of the law until a full hearing is held.
The parts of the law that have been temporarily suspended are:
- Requiring immigrants to carry papers with them at all times
- Allowances for law enforcement to check on one’s legal status while enforcing other laws
- Making illegal the gathering of illegal aliens in public places to solicit employment
We all know what the score is here. It has nothing to do with “human rights” or “splitting up families” or other such poppycock. It’s about buying votes. Democrats (and a number of RINOs) think that if they appease illegal aliens and their supporters and manage to push amnesty through, then they’ll have secured the votes of millions of people — not to mention locking in the support of the businesses that hire these illegal aliens.
Interestingly enough, the feds now require passports at the borders of Mexico and Canada for everyone, including U.S. citizens, in the interests of security. And the Mexican government — one of the biggest critics of the Arizona law — has immigration laws in place that are just as strict, if not stricter, than Arizona law SB1070. Then again, if it weren’t for the U.S. acting as a pressure valve to help its poorest escape their misery, Mexico would have imploded long ago. Of course it’s in Mexico’s best interests to keep that valve open. It’s a heck of a lot easier than reforming their own corrupt government and pathetic economy.
But Americans want secure borders. And until the federal government decides to actually do something about it rather than pay lip service to taxpaying citizens and legal residents, they support the right of states like Arizona to do the job the federal government won’t. And so while the feds try to curry favor with illegal aliens, who as of yet cannot vote — or so we’re told — they’re in danger of further alienating the rest of us. Andy McCarthy is right:
This decision is going to anger most of the country. The upshot of it is to tell Americans that if they want the immigration laws enforced, they are going to need a president willing to do it, a Congress willing to make clear that the federal government has no interest in preempting state enforcement, and the selection of judges who will not invent novel legal theories to frustrate enforcement. They are not going to get that from the Obama/Reid/Pelosi Democrats.
So what can law-abiding citizens do? At the moment, not much, other than to continue to contact your congressman and senators to tell them what you think. And come November, vote out the incumbents who refuse to put American citizens — the people they purport to serve — first.
Or you could do what Rush Limbaugh suggests: when asked for ID, just say “no hablo Ingles.”
It would be kind of fun to watch if Arizona Law Enforcement just stopped addressing any Latino crime…whatsoever! Every time a Hispanic is involved, the officer leaves…saying they dont want to break an injunction against them. Let that go on for a couple of weeks and you will have people screaming at the Government to put a stop to it, and make the officers do their job. The officers can easily say they are doing their job, according to the Federal Government’s Lawsuit….and to pound sand. I wonder how long the Feds would last with people deciding that their way of ignoring the law gets a lot of Hispanics killed while they are committing the crimes….they would have to sh*t or get off the pot on this lunacy they are forcing on Arizona now…remember race fans…this was only hypothetical, and in no way reflects the opinions of this poster…so save the rants. This was a “just sayin” kind of observation.
Interesting point.
Or they could just cease enforcing any federal law or helping in investigations. Let the drug war be fought strictly at a federal level. Don’t want to preempt the DEA. Or let bank robbers just drive on by. That is a federal issue. The feds want to pick and choose what laws to enforce, against some people, some of the time. This is really making people lose faith (more) in the system of law we have.
When I look at this whole situation more broadly, what I see is the Federal Government attacking one of the States. I never thought I’d witness something like in my lifetime.
Is this Civil War?
I’ve thought about this too. Our first “Civil War” was our revolt against our Colonial masters. The second was started by a state (SC) attacking the Federal Government. This is (exactly as you say) the Federal Government attacking a state (AZ). Is this the Fort Sumter incident of our third “Civil War”?
One can only hope so.
Since he took office, Obama has been making war against private citizens, private companies, various groups of people both at home and overseas, America’s standing abroad, and the idea of our country as a whole.
Congress and the judiciary have been making war on America for decades. They are all completely out of control.
Holder: “Listen,Judge….since Barokeydoke and I are too gutless to enforce Federal immigration law because we’ve got this little amnesty working to make 12 million illegals into good Democrats,is it ok if we hide behind your dress for a while?…I mean just till we get the amnesty worked out,ok?”
Bolton: “Well,I guess so…but keep your hands to yourself.”
Stop with the 12 million illegals number.
That was the Democrats estimate 15 years ago.
Los Angeles area alone admits to 3-4 million illegals.
That leaves Houston Texas, San Antonio,Albuquerque, Fresno, Chicago, NYC, Wash DC
NOLA, Atlanta, Buffalo NY,…etc etc.
THERE ARE 30 MILLION ILLEGALS in the USA
THERE ARE 23 MILLION NON WHITE LEGAL IMMIGRANTS..of which 11 Million are on permanent
welfare.
WAKE UP
I think she said, ” OK, but this is going to cost you.” The Chicago way.
What relative of the judge just got stimulus cash?
I Hope everyone is ready to Change.
so again, tell me why Arizona can’t just ignore the ruling – how many state employees would they arrest and jail? if every state did the same?
Ok, enforcing immigration law is a Federal thing. Not OK, the situation on the ground where citizens of a state are overrun by illegals (cartel/human smugglers) posing a real threat to citizens of the state. If I were the governor of Arizona, I’d be looking at calling up the militia. I’d research my powers in this regard, but my first concern would be to hold the border ’till the Cavalry arrives (sometime after Obama).
So, I’d pick residents with a couple of years on their hands and pretty good eyesight to set-up behind a peepsight to reach out and touch anything coming across the border. Once the border was closed (could take a month, but not much longer- word travels fast in numerous languages) the fence building would begin.
Americans in Israel are taking note of Obama’s and the Dems treachery.
Therefore, there is a campaign going on (via the AIAC, Americans in Israel Action Committee)to make sure that as many as possible exercise their votes in the Nov election. With over 100,000 votes in the mix, hopefully they will smack down this lying, radical, Marxist-in-Chief, and his Dem followers, hurling them straight out of office.
It can’t come soon enough…truly!
“ALL American voters” need to remember AZ when it comes to voting in 2010 and especially 2012!!
They will all have to be present in the US to vote. Have you forgotten the 17,000 votes from US service men/women that were not counted in the Prez election.
tom H/Tx;
Why descend into lawlessness and behave just like the WH, who ignore laws to gain power? We’re better men and women than that…and we will prevail over these tyrants.
Why descend into lawlessness like your enemies who are trying to kill you?
Because you aren’t fighting for approval or self confidence, you are fighting for everything. When you fight for everything, you fight with everything you have. Unless, of course, you are John McCain and resolve to lose your campaign with honor and dignity. Which he did.
No, if there’s going to be a fight, you should strive to be at least as well armed as your opponent. This is the lesson taught by winners for the last few thousand years, and this is no time to try changing reality.
Hey, Suicidal,
I wouldn’t say that John McCain’s loss was with honor. Anyone who has read Sarah Palin’s book “Going Rogue” has seen how McCain’s campaign machine threw Sarah under the bus, ostensibly to blame the loss on her. They apparently fabricated personal stories and fed them to the media, which denigrated Sarah with the fabricated stories. What I can’t imagine is why she now supports McCain for reelection against a good conservative, J.D. Hayworth, especially now when we don’t need to keep another RINO like McCain in office to work out compromises with Democrats that are apt to be unconstitutional and damaging.
If you do not fight back, you will not prevail.
Dear Dr. Bones,
Without reading even a word of the freedame’s actual scribble as opposed to the headlines, I congratulate Neocomradess P. X. Meister on her eminently suitable surname — who’s to be Meister being what is at issue here by pretty well everybody’s account. [1]
The kiddies’ meistery took a small set-back yesterday, and this particular freedame is not amused even in the slightest. One cannot fool Neocomradess P. X. Meister, sir — SHE knows what’s goin’ on! And also who to blame when human events insist on playin’ hard to get. “WE all know,” she orates — thus generously incorporatin’ Wally Wombschool and Cindy from Wasilla in her own freelordly neo-omniscience, which is rather more than those two deserve, I suspect.
Not being a party to her freedameship’s pronouns of the first person myself, I must rake through the factious tripe and bologna to find out exactly what motive this is that all self-servicin’ kiddies do not need to be instructed about.
Aha! “It’s about buying votes”! ¡BINGO!
A litle disappointing, perhaps, that we have already run into that ideoproduct chez Limbaugh, and some time ago as well. Plus long before that from His Grace, the Duke of Sanseverino.
Pajamatarians need not be original thinkers, of course, though they are a good deal less tedious when they occasionally manage that trick. And if you read on a little after the ¡BINGO!, Dr. Bones, you will see that Madame Oracle is a bit more circumspect that the selfservicers from whom she cribs. Dr. Limbaugh and His Grace both make it plain that the votes to be bought belong to José and Juanita Wetback themselves personally, suddenly converted into a citizen and a citizenness of the Heimatland Gottes by a couple of pen- or keyboard-strokes from President Summers and Mr. O’Bama. By executive order.
Freedame Meister wisely leaves open another possibility:
That certainly looks like meanin’ that Juanita and José do not get to go to the polls themselves, — not this time, at least — but that vast hordes and herds and mobs and droves of sympathy voters (plus presumably a few scabs suckin’ up to the Employer Classes in entirely the wrong way) will hasten to thank The Régime for being so nice to (other) members of the Bad Poor.
Far less improbable than the stroke-of-a-pen psenario, her freedameship’s alternative can scarcely be said to be plausible simpliciter. Though decent political grown-ups are nowhere near as self-servicing as kiddies, and especially kiddiemasters, yet we are not quite THAT altruistic.
More exactly: to the extent that decency and maturity naturally side with José and Juanita against Pammeister People, the alliance or alignment was forged long ago. There is nothing about Arizonagate to engender any fresh ouburst of gush and deportment and ladies magazines. The vast majority of lieberal and demonocrat and “Democrat Party” voters in 2010 or 2012 will simply be confirmed in our cultivated contempt for Pammeistery and Rio Limbaugh.
Having additional reasons to vote agains the grand abusers of the world is, unfortunately, not at all the same thing as having additional votes against them.
The freedame may conceivably fantasize that President Summers and Mr. O’Bama are too stupid to perceive her neopoint, that they expect to “have secured the votes of millions of people,” even though her freedameship knows well that they are bound to be sadly disappointed in the event. Were that the situation, however, it would have been better manners to let Master Wally and Mizz Cindy in on that aspect of her freedameship’s neo-omniscience as well.
Quâ agitpropper for Party an’ Ideology, Apprentice Kiddiemaster Pam would presumably be glad enough to have her partients or victims think everybody affiliated with The Régime a complete dunce. Yet how are poor Cindy and little Wally to notice this very duncical expectation of “the votes of millions of people,” unless her freedameship spells it out for them? The notion that rank-and-file Party base an’ vile would ever think of that for themselves is dotty.
So on balance I guess that her freedameship never thought of it either. Which leaves her (as one must conjecture) supposin’ that the Pajama Junction kiddies will suppose somethin’ like the Limbaugh-Sanseverino Doctrine, yet without her freedameship havin’ to explicitly endorse the patent absurdity. [2]
And I wish you, sir,
Happy days through affordable healthcare.
___
[1] If you mind phakin’ neo-Greek (and shammin’ quasi-Latin) a little less that some of us expensively educated cannot help but, you could run this little lady’s two monnickers together and suggest that ‘pammeistery’ is what it’s all about out there at Goldwater Gulch. Wingnut City and Rio Limbaugh (as usual — as ever) crave what used to be called imperium universale.
Unfortunately one can no longer take for granted that domineerin’ imperialists want one single King Log or King Stork at the top of their racket, hence the Pammeister People should not be called ‘pammonarchists’, no matter how well that label displays the genuine Hellenic assimilation of consonants.
Actually, the kiddie selfservatives’ Rovan Empire is plainly intended to be a mere “panoligarchy,” a systematic racketeerin’ by TopPercenters collectively at the expense of all lesser percentiles without. Maybe that is why the Party of Grant & Hoover has chosen to abuse rem publicam in word and not in deed alone?
But that is another story, and “Pammeister People” will do well enough to indicate who the kiddies and neokiddies are.
[2] This stance is what would be called ‘cynical’ if an adult did it: her freedameship agitates and propagandizes for the Party of Grant and for the Kiddie Selfservative Movement with agitprop that she does not trouble to talk herself into believin’ first.
But Goebbels knows best.
Excuse me, but are you even capable of making sense?
Maybe this is one of those random word post builder programs from “back when”.
Thank you. I thought it was me because it’s late and I’m getting tired.
Dude. . . . .get back on your meds!
Maybe he is on his “meds”.
That’s the scariest suggestion I’ve heard yet.
Poor Bobo!
I think I remember you.
You were President of the Latin and Greek clubs back in dear old West Pig Knuckle High, were you not?
And then you disappeared with those tie-dyed paleo-hippies in that VW microbus after the Grateful Dead concert came to town in ’81.
We,(sorta-kinda…well no, not really), wondered whatever became of you.
Now we know.
This is about all the response you’re likely to get, as I’m not at all sure it is possible…or even desirable…to have a discussion with a person who is apparently arguing with his own LSD-induced hallucinatory sheloobies.
But by all means, enjoy yourself, man.
PS: Contrary to your “Meistering” assertion, it’s about WHOM is going to “arbeiting”, under what conditions, and for how many ducats of remuneration, amigo.
hey…over here! FOCUS!
Oh, never mind.
LOL!!!
A perfect example of the axiom that pretentious sophistry doesn’t equal intelligence.
Looks familiar. Didn’t you write this exact same comment a while back?
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So much for Modern Liberal creativity.
“This stance is what would be called ‘cynical’ if an adult did it…”
What an unbelievable pile of steaming fresh horsesh*t.
What a brilliant exposition of progressive intelligence. With such astounding insight and carefully reasoned analysis, you MUST be a college professor or a member of the Obama(PBUH) administration.
Chris:
I’m pretty sure he works in General Holder’s Justive Department.
You really shouldn’t try to post comments when you’ve been toking too heavily, McBingo. All those made up words aren’t nearly as clever as you think they are. In fact, they make you sound incoherent, and nobody with any sense would be persuaded by what you think you’re trying to say.
By they way, this “judge” was nominated and approved by Jon Kyl and Juan McCain. I hope J.D. Hayworth pounds out that message early and often.
“It’s about buying votes.” says the author Pam Meister. Perhaps others see this issue in a different light. On the surface this idea sounds good. The illegals should be subject to the law. Fair enough. The claims we are being over run are valid. I agree, there are too many illegals here in our nation.
With what, 12 million or more illegal aliens, a sweep to round them up will accomplish what? Concentration camps with hundreds of thousands of people? Exactly how is that going to work. Why don’t we just make it impossible for illegals to get a job. With no jobs, they’ll find their own way home. And it is far cheaper than to create concentration camps or border fences at taxpayer expense.
Mr. Walters;
Strictly considering only the logistics of it, I would remind you that Nazi Germany, using 1940′s technology and while fighting a 4-front war, was able to round up and forcibly displace well over 6 million people in just over 3 years.
And many of the people the displaced were from occupied nations that were not necessarily amenable to the Nazis’ aims.
To identify, detain and deport 12 million is entirely do-able. And since we would not be doing so for genocidal purposes, rather only to send them home where they belong, we wouldn’t need to use Nazi tactics to do so.
If the Feds were to pay a bounty to informants who “bird-dogged” illegals, we could clear this joint out within half a decade.
All we need to do is to do it.
Bilgeman,
I was hoping to avoid concentration camps. Yeah, it’s do-able, but from various readings it became clear that the concentration camp system detracted from their war effort. My point is this: Can we afford extra police, troops, facilities for the vast amount of illegals (24 million?, who knows)? What draws illegals here is work and access to our social services. Cut access to both of these and your problem is on the way to being solved.
Regarding do-ability of rounding up illegal aliens as per Nazi success: there were in the 1940s no 24-hour news cycle, viewed on TV by millions of people in their own living rooms, as we have now. Said news, with one exception, is demonstrably left-leaning and given to airing “tear-jerk” stories, bereft of serious discussion of the pros and cons of a given policy issue, as for example the fact that having roughly 20 million illegal aliens in the U.S. constitutes a de facto amnesty — the benefits of which accrue to the corporate/political power brokers and the costs of which are born by the taxpayer in a multitude of onerous ways beyond the obvious fiscal outlay.
Eisenhower deported millions of illegal aliens in operation wetback. Eisenhower’s focus was on protecting American citizens and in engendering a respect for the rule of law. The current regime (a law unto itself), and ALL employers of illegal aliens, and the purveyors of the Leftist notion/aim of a borderless global community exert constant pressure — in varying degrees and intensity — to make null and void the social contract between American citizens and our Founding documents. No less a legal titan than Georgetown’s Randy Barnett himself admitted in a recent WSJ interview entitled “A Commandeering of the People,” that “I was trained in law school to believe that all the good parts of the Constitution were gone.”
It is later than we think. Things are not hunky-dorey; it’s not all Bush’s fault; and it’s not true that things would be worse now if not for actions taken by this congress and the administration (as per Karl Rove at Heritage today). But these three narratives will be the democrat battle cry in the weeks and months ahead: things are fine, Bush did it, things could have been worse. Be prepared to counter the lies.
darcy:
“Regarding do-ability of rounding up illegal aliens as per Nazi success: there were in the 1940s no 24-hour news cycle, viewed on TV by millions of people in their own living rooms, as we have now.”
Point taken, I would reply though, that for all the 24/7/365 tee-vee and Journolistic weeping and gushery, it hasn’t noticeably softened the expressed opinion of the natives into an “Awwwww, they’re so cute and fuzzy!” stance, has it?
In fact, quite the opposite has occurred. In poll after poll, and over decades, us native-born peasants and the poor dummies who followed the rules and immigrated here legally express a fairly consistent “lock the gate and throw the bums out!” bent.
Mr. Walters:
“Can we afford extra police, troops, facilities for the vast amount of illegals?”
The question is the same with which I reply when the costs of criminal incarceration are similarly raised: Can we afford NOT to?
How would we quantify the downward pressure on wages of large numbers of illegals in the agriculture, construction, food service and hospitality industries?
How would we quantify the deleterious effect on workplace safety from the presence of a workforce devoted to avoiding any contact whatsoever with the Federal government?
As Brother NdaBoonies and Sister RebeccaH also point out, our uninvited interlopers will disenlope themselves when there’s no ducats to be had from staying.
And it would be entirely possible to pay them a wee small sum of moneys to turn themselves in and save us the bother of having to go chase them down.
“I was hoping to avoid concentration camps”
To use the loaded term “concentration camp” in conjunction with this context is counter-productive and self-defeating in the extreme,(unless that’s your purpose).
They would NOT be “concentration camps”, rather they would be “deportation facilities” or “Alien Community Centers”, or even “Involuntary Emigrant Departure Lounges”…transported there by the “Un-welcome Wagons”(?).
Please adjust your vocabulary accordingly.
Bilgeman,
You stated……………..”Please adjust your vocabulary accordingly.
They would NOT be “concentration camps”, rather they would be “deportation facilities”
-Use any euphemism you will, it’s only a matter of semantics.
I used the term only because it denotes a huge population (…i’ve heard 24 million or more) to be housed and fed humanely for how long?
At say, $1,000/head, that works out to $24 BILLION! $1,000/head is really low balling it. Get the picture?
We CAN afford not to do it this way. Let them move themselves when they are forced to because they’ll be unable to work or receive government assistance.
No need for a fence either. How much will that cost us?
Let’s think clearly before we throw good money after bad.
Not a bad idea coming from a liberal troll, huh?
Bilgeman,
You stated……………..”Please adjust your vocabulary accordingly.
They would NOT be “concentration camps”, rather they would be “deportation facilities”
-Use any euphemism you will, it’s only a matter of semantics.
I used the term only because it denotes a huge population (…i’ve heard 24 million or more) to be housed and fed humanely for how long?
At say, $1,000/head, that works out to $24 BILLION! $1,000/head is really low balling it. Get the picture?
We CAN afford not to do it this way. Let them move themselves when they are forced to because they’ll be unable to work or receive government assistance.
No need for a fence either. How much will that cost us?
Let’s think clearly before we throw good money after bad.
Not a bad idea coming from a liberal troll, huh?
Mr. Walters:
“At say, $1,000/head, that works out to $24 BILLION! $1,000/head is really low balling it. Get the picture?”
You’re on a wingnut site, mister, whatever other skills we might lack, arithmetic is not one of them.
Worst case scenario of 24 BILLION you say?
Heh…in this Odministration, they call that “Wednesday”.
And it should be borne in mind also that this would be the best of government stimulus plans in that it would pay Americans for performing the public service of removing illegal immigrants and thereby creating job opportunities in the private sector for OTHER Americans.
Sit and ponder the novelty of that for a minute…a government program that does something useful and actually creates private sector jobs.
“Let them move themselves when they are forced to because they’ll be unable to work or receive government assistance.”
Your protestations notwithstanding, that seems very Libertarian of you.
“No need for a fence either. How much will that cost us?”
Depends. If we used contractors with illegal alien labor, we could get it done for a pittance…there would be a certain dark irony to that, methinks.
“And it should be borne in mind also that this would be the best of government stimulus plans in that it would pay Americans for performing the public service of removing illegal immigrants and thereby creating job opportunities in the private sector for OTHER Americans.”
-So you’d support a government gravy train if it suits your particular politics. I am on a wing nut site, but i was under the mistaken belief that reason should prevail. Guess I was wrong.
The illegals will do most of the deportation themselves. As we are seeing in AZ, they are vacating the premises in droves. Once more states adopt similar laws, they will be left with no choice, leave voluntarily or involuntarily.
Metro areas in Ohio have filled up with illegals from Hispanic countries (as well as others), but ever since Ohio passed a law cracking down on employers, there aren’t quite as many around as there were. We’ll never be able to deport them all, but we can make life here a lot less desirable for the lawbreakers.
And I don’t think any responsible person has suggested building concentration camps, that’s ridiculous. Fences, on the other hand, should have been built long ago.
“…but ever since Ohio passed a law cracking down on employers, there aren’t quite as many around as there were. We’ll never be able to deport them all, but we can make life here a lot less desirable for the lawbreakers.”
-Employment (or lack thereof) is the key to illegal immigration. I’m glad you see this Rebecca.
“And I don’t think any responsible person has suggested building concentration camps, that’s ridiculous. Fences, on the other hand, should have been built long ago.”
-If there is no reason to come here (….no jobs or services to hand out) there’d be no reason to have a welfare system for fence builders.
Where did you get the insane notion that the only option when illegals are captured is to put them into a concentration camp?
Last time I looked, we got trains heading down to Mexico everyday.
“Where did you get the insane notion that the only option when illegals are captured is to put them into a concentration camp?
Last time I looked, we got trains heading down to Mexico everyday.”
-Mark,
-There you go again with that smear (inferring I’m insane?) Come on, it’s beneath your dignity.
I’m just trying to envision the realities of the situation. Not even counting the amount of extra police necessary to round up perhaps 24 million people, are there enough trains or buses that can handle this crowd? Processing is something that is being overlooked, since by law, all the people collected may not in fact be illegals. Insane notions seem to abound, but realistically approaching this problem is what I’m attempting to do.
Mr. Walters, Arizona has the laws in place, you can not hire or rent a dwelling to an illegal…lawfully. The State has not been allowed to enforce immigration laws, that is the Fed’s job. The Feds will not give enough manpower to immigration for them to do their assigned tasks…so they do nothing. Arizonans just want the right to enforce immigration laws themselves.
I believe this is a matter of EGO! Az. is stepping on the ‘Big Guy’s’ toes…and he has replied with a choke hold. It is even possible the Feds will be sent manpower in the Southwest as a compromise. You know…to do their jobs. I am very proud of Arizona for making this such a big deal, they have begged for help in the past, and got none. What bothers me the most is wondering what else is coming across the borders illegally. We know about the drug problems, but do we know what or ‘who’ else is entering the country this way? There could be anything or ‘anyone’ in those trucks and vans.
I hope Arizona sticks by the commitment made to their citizens. California, New Mexico, and Texas would do well to follow.
This is a matter of national security, BHO should be grateful to a State willing to do this job for the undermanned feds.
I’d like to know why they do not come across the borders legally? Do they all have felony records? Or are they just avoiding income tax… The same rules apply to all immigrants, no matter their Country of origin.
Remember in November? Eh? Garbage.Whites still dont get whats happening
to white people. Soon it wont matter what you remember. It certainly
didnt matter in 2008..the last election cycle.
The majority of whites didnt vote for Obama. And he was still elected.
Think about that long and hard. Thats a first in US history.
And the message is..YOU DONT MATTER. And this is doing to start happening with
greater frequency. Because thats what mass immigration both legal and illegal
means..the permanent change in demographics in this country. Race doesnt matter?
Than the election of Obama doesnt matter..and your unhappiness with the results
of that election doesnt matter.
Whites are told over and over and over that RACISM is the ultimate sin. And they believe it..they stumble all over themselves to disavow any racial identity. Race doesnt matter..race is …racist. Hispanics dont believe that.. Blacks dont. Muslims whose entire religious ethos is based on hatred of the infidel, the kuffar the Dhimmi..dont believe it. But whites cant apologize enough. Cant give their land away fast enough. Reduced to 7% of the worlds
population they call themselves The Majority..and seek to give what little they have
away. Its a suicide cult led by Jim Jones-like President, and a Liberal priesthood
of Federal Judges, and media scum who are ladling out the Kool-Aid to the
line of white people. And the line keeps getting shorter.
I’m sorry – who has all the guns in America? White folk. When it gets intolerable, we’re gonna make Watts look like a campfire.
‘Wisdom will forever rule Ignorance.’
Surprisingly little force is needed
when the Wise Guys have all the food.
“We all know what the motive behind it”
So if we all know, why write about it?
Because it needs to be said out loud.
I may be mistaken,,, but isn’t the individual state’s governor the CinC of their respective National Guard units? If Arizona could afford it, Gov. Jan Brewer could activate the AZ National Guard and use those troops to patrol the AZ border.
I heard an interview done with our Texas Gov. Rick Perry in which he recounted all the state resources spent here by various local sheriff’s departments, Texas Rangers, Texas Highway Patrol, Texas National Guard units, not to mention border city police departments, in an effort to support the Federal Border Patrol trying to do the job of securing our 1200 mile international border with Mexico. The number he mentioned was $115 to $120 million bi-annum, (Texas legislators only meet every other year thus budgets have to run two years.) Still and all, that’s an additional $60 million tax burden on Texans per year, over and above what we have to fork over the the Feds every April 15th. Ten years ago it was a fun day’s outing to take the family down to Progresso or Laredo for a day of shopping across the border, but those days are gone forever, the border towns that used to be so much fun are now a war zone.
Is it just me, or is anybody else sick and tired of Washington DC just sitting on their hands and spending our money like a drunken sailor. That’s probably an insult to drunken sailors since I was one and I quit spending when I ran out of my money.
Does the name ‘Orval Faubus’ ring a bell ?
Obama can nationalize the Guard, and then
we all get to see whose orders they will
follow.
In Virginia having a virginia issued driver’s license is proof of citizenship. In Maryland not so. I wonder wonder about the Arizona license. Sure would simplify things.
Under Bill (“I only claim my Hispanic half, just as Obama only claims his black half”) Richardson, we in New Mexico passed a law granting drivers’ licenses to illegals.
The rationale was that illegals would then, at least, purchase car insurance, something like that. I kid you not.
I don’t think that is working out too well, since purchasing insurance isn’t high up on the illegal’s “to do” list.
Most people here illegally are happy to take the freebies, perks, whatever (medical/educational, children born physically on American soil automatically have citizenship etc.) but have a temporary attitude towards their sojourns in the US and, mainly, send $ back to their families in Mexico while happily setting up clandestine living arrangements and staying under the radar.
I don’t know about that. Last time I went to have my license renewed, my OLD license was NOT proof of citizenship. I had to show them a birth certificate. Which means, of course, that Virginia does NOT operate on the assumption of lawful presence – you have to prove you belong here. Has anything changed?
No Macko, Arizona has a box you check off if you are a citizen…it is displayed on the license. Insurance is mandatory, but a premium can be paid for ‘under insured’, and/or ‘uninsured’ motorists…don’t leave home without it!
#43…Edmund…can we send the bill to her too?
We are not trying to “split up” illegals’ families. They are quite free to take their anchor babies and go back to Mexico as a unit. They got a free birth in a U.S. hospital; they are not entitled to anything more. Stupidest law ever enacted: If you have a baby here you are all automatically citizens and entitled to welfare, free health care and a free education. U.S. citizens don’t get that, and we certainly wouldn’t get it if we invaded Mexico. Fair is fair. Make them go back and go to the end of the line of those trying to immigrate legally.
No. Not to the end of the line, but excluded from the line alltogether for demonstrating a willingness to break the law to steal into America and to steal a job from Americans and to steal from the taxpayers who are cornered into forking out their hard-earned money by corrupt politicians whose modus operandi is to keep the country in constant turmoil for political gain.
I see on the horizon semi-trucks loaded with tar and feathers headed for the Capitol and the White House lawn.
The wife and me are saying aloha to the USA. I’d rather see, recall her for the great nation she once was than witness the Fed et al., step on the throat of the American majority for P C nonsense.
For the Fed to hold the state of Arizona captive, setting aside these American’s safety is beyond words.
Lastly, those saying illegal immigration, ‘..isn’t only confined to Mexico/ Hispanics..’ – show me the equal, greater damage inflicted upon the 11 states which border Canada as compared to the 4 states bordering Mexico..!
Where are you going?
Finally, someone that I can send my costs to. Driving through the parking lot of the largest discount store our family van was struck by a brand new pickup truck backing out. The man spoke very broken english but said he had insurance and showed us a card. We had a local Sheriff show up and he filled out paperwork but told us it was a parking lot. The first person we talked to at the small insurance agency said that Juan, not his real name, had insurance. The next time we called, Juan who? A brand new pickup bought at a local dealer by an illegal alien? And we get stuck with the $500 deductible and the rental car for a week. This is a NOT a border state. Folks it was fun for a time because the food service and hotel industry profited from the majority that are hard working people looking for a better life. Now Arizona is suffering because a larger percentage are very costly for society wrecking our lives with crime and drugs. It is already costing all of us money but Obama and Susan could care less. Susan just implied in her decision that I can deduct my $500 directly off of my taxes.
There are certain unpleasant facts about the illegals problem that we must accept.
First, they’re here, and we (largely) tolerate them, because of economic incentives. Those incentives won’t vanish overnight, no matter what changes are made legislatively or in enforcement policy. So we must steel ourselves to a protracted effort.
Second, our borders are porous on every side. Fortifying the Mexican border is without doubt the most urgent need, but that will almost certainly result in increased pressure against our Canadian border. Illegal migrants, like water, seek weak spots to flow through. Therefore, fencing the Mexican border will not complete the task.
Third, people are cleverer about surmounting obstacles and sloughing constraints than we normally credit. Prior efforts to reduce the illegal-entry problem testify to this. Therefore, our borders will never be made perfectly impermeable. Also, since survival pressures intensify every sort of effort, it’s only reasonable to expect that the current violent clashes along our southern border would intensify, at least for a time, were we to “get serious” about controlling that border.
I mention these things not because they’re good arguments against intensified border control — they’re not — but because they’ll be offered by our opponents: persons who want no control imposed on our borders. They’ll attempt — indeed, they’ve already attempted — to argue that since the borders can’t be controlled to perfection, therefore there’s no point in doing anything. Be ready to parry that “perfect as the enemy of the good enough” sort of thrust.
Be wise as serpents and harmless as doves. The highest Authority has said that that’s the way to go.
Francis,
I mostly agree with your 3 unpleasant facts about our illegal alien problem. As I’ve mentioned elsewhere here, the solution is fairly easy (compared to some other solutions) and far more inexpensive (particularly when conservative rage is about spending). Find a solution that allows ONLY legal residents of our nation to work. Cash under the table job markets would be one problem, but this can be solved with an Arizona Law approach (what illegals that remain would be asked to produce “papers”). Then mandate any social service recipient to prove their status. Children born in this country would have to leave with their parents. That’s my approach(and here at Pajamas Media, I am considered a liberal troll). They would soon find their way home, and NOT having a “fence” would make this return easier.
Yeah, but the flight from Mexico City to Vancouver would really up the cost enough to cut down the flow.
Forget the Hispanics for a minute. Y’all remember what the dude who wanted to blow up Times Square looked like. You can imagine what some of us in the SouthWest are thinking. It would be too easy to let any freak/creep come in. IF ANY place in the southwest or otherwise suffers a terrorist attack of ANY sort because some judge who obviously doesn’t live where there’s all sorts of crap going on passes judgement showing she doesn’t care about FED law, or the Naturalization and Immigration Act laws, well, katie bar the door. Plus it really gauls me that the pansy ass pres won’t carry his celebrity crazed butt down here to the SW and talk with the REAL people who live here and find out what is going on. It’s nothing short of incredible to me how sickening it is to see a state in the US being treated like Israel vrs. Palestinians. It’s astounding to me that so called intelligent people can’t figure out why there’s a budget deficit and what part of it they are having a hand in playing. Just why is it our government doesn’t care about National Security in the SW? Is greed and egocentricity too much of a sorry temptation? If FDR and Eisenhower could deport and enforce FED law, why can’t this administration? I feel like a non-citizen this morning. I feel like us people in the SW been thrown to more than under the bus.
Lorita:
“If FDR and Eisenhower could deport and enforce FED law, why can’t this administration? I feel like a non-citizen this morning. I feel like us people in the SW been thrown to more than under the bus.”
That’s because that’s exactly how you are supposed to be feeling.
Don’t you realize when you are being deliberately provoked?
Our oligarchical Powers that BE sorely desire a violent outburst from the cracka majority in order to guilt-trip us into quiescence to their aims for another generation.
Look how long those faux-Marxist statist moonbats ate free lunch off of Birmingham, Kent State, and Oklahoma City.
They keep pokin’ and pokin’ and pokin’…just trying to pick a fight.
What’s a few hundred dead and a few hundred more imprisoned compared to framing the argument and thereby setting the agenda for another 25 years?
That, dear lady, is what this Odministration is about.
Crossing from CA to AZ at Yuma (right on the Mexican border), I’ve been treated very weirdly indeed for these United States, the guy in camouflage holding the drug sniffing dog on the leash, saying, in broken English…”Is this your vehicle ? Are you an American citizen ?” Next time, Ill try that, when asked for documents, driving or otherwise, …”no hablo inglés”.
As was said on the radio yesterday, this decision of the AZ judge was an “activist” decision, not a judicial decision.
I wonder if the fix was in between the judge and the justice department even before Holder brought the federal suit. I believe this DOJ works that way, the fix in the NBPP case is transparent enough.
It has been rumored that Holder helped Governor Bill Richardson’s (“too corrupt for a slot in Obama’s cabinet”) under-the-table deal making problems go away.
That this huge crowd of undocumented democrats, aka people in the country illegally, are being coddled as the new voting bloc to keep the democrats in power in perpetuity is a sign of the abjectly low level to which this cadre of self-serving élitists has taken this nation.
Any pretense of civility is over. This is war.
Contrary to what the author stated, this is all about human rights, first and foremost, the very foundation of who we are as Americans. Our Declaration of Independence states we are given certain ‘unalienable rights’ by our Creator, among them life and property, and that government is instituted to protect those rights. They are “unalienable” meaning we lend them to government in the forming of ‘society’, but can never be separated from them. I “lend” to the police department the protection of my life and property, I “lend” to the fire department the protection of my home. But if a thief breaks into my home and threatens my life and property I retain the right to defend me and mine with necessary force. Now, a thief breaks into my home, I call 911, and the police department tells me they have better thing to do than to protect me. Now, not only do I have the right to defend myself, but the responsibility and obligation as well. Illegal immigrants have broken into our homeland, threatening life and property, and the federal government has refused to uphold their responsiblity to protect life and property. Arizona now has the right, given the state by action of their citizens through duly elected representatives, to assume that role, given not only federal failures, but refusals. Arizona citizens cannot lose their rights to defense of life and property, because the federal government fails to act. To say they do constitutes declaration that our rights come not from our Creator and are unalienable, but from the state and are subject to governmental whim.
This country is in serious serious trouble! Democrats, Obama administration, MSM, Supreme Court nominees, and RINO’s have put this country the likes I never thought I would see in my lifetime. Corruption, abuse of the rule of law, outright lies and evil administration tactics is just insane. Revolution Nov. 2010!!
If the judge’s decision is not a product of her following the dem party line, it is a result of the political atmospherics that the illegal issue has created. On its face it is rather bewildering that this country can’t control its borders because doing so would upset a very small part of its legal population and cause similar upset to its illegal population. The people that are most militant in their support are of the opinion that borders either don’t matter or once people cross them it would be a worse crime to deport than the crime they committed coming here illegally in the first place. Tell that to people in other countries and they will deport you as a lunatic.
The other baffling thing about the illegal problem is that all the self-interested people on the other side of the issue are not involved in it because they like this country or its legal citizens. Much of their anger at the majority’s desire to see the bordered controlled is a manifestation of their dislike for this country. Their feelings for ‘other’ countries make the majority wonder why they do not leave this country and go to any one of them. The obvious reason why they do not is because they do not want to live in any one of them. Rather than admit this (perhaps even to themselves) they express this conflicted hatred for the US. This is a real problem most Americans may not be thinking about now. But with ever larger numbers of unassimilated people coming here, particularly from Mexico, none of us will not be able to avoid its too obvious manifestation in the near future.
I totally agree with Ms. Meister’s take that the illegal immigration issue has not got a damn thing to do with securing the borders; it has to do with currying favor with a bunch of Spanish speaking illegals to secure their vote for the party that can take credit for allowing them to run rough shod over laws already on our books. Both political parties are guilty for what is becoming more outrageous every day, a pissing contest now between Arizona and most of America who are against amnesty and for securing our borders, in any border state, and Obama, his sycophantic minions and some number of RINOs scrambling for a large potential voting bloc. This has gone on for decades and will continue until one party or the other gathers the courage to put some serious teeth on our southern borders in particular and make it known in no uncertain terms that America welcomes legal immigrants but will not tolerate those that enter this country in violation of our laws. We claim to be a nation of laws; let’s enforce them; it must be as plain and simple as that.
Today during the interview of a Illegal immigration activist here in AZ, she let the cat out of the bag. She stated the reason they fought AZ 1070 was they could not allow other states to pass similar laws. What we have is a don’t ask, don’t tell federal policy soon to be called comprehensive immigration reform.
Well, I keep saying the same thing over and over again. Now it occurs to me I may have the answer. The poor leaving Mexico are certainly being driven out. Why does neither side wish to confront the real issue? Because the Left really does want to destroy America, it doesn’t care about the Country of Mexico and it’s abandonment of the poor. And the right doesn’t want to confront a separate nation where the rich no doubt make huge campaign contributions.
Why can’t Arizona, or any other state for that matter, sue the Federal Government for failing to perform its legally required duty to secure our borders and for failing to enforce the requirement for any job applicant to produce proof of Social Security Administration eligibility? It seems to me that there must be some form of colusion between government and the employers who hire vast numbers of illegals in spite of existing laws forbidding such activity. Can’t a racketeering (RICO?) investigation be launched by Congress to investigate Federal Goverment complicity via the Special Prosecutor route? Why can’t the very same legalities being used to thwart “us” be used against “them”, eh?
Come November, forget the Party vote. I am an independent because I have watched both parties betray this nation since the Nixon presidency, when trade with the Commie Chinese was promoted before our ‘Nam dead were cold. Ever since, we have been deindustrialized. Think the issues through. Turn off the tube. Even Abe Foxman is supporting immigration. Does he plan on importing Palestinians? If the government ignores the people, we have one recourse other than another Lexington. Fire volleys of phone calls, faxes, and emails at our Representatives, and tell them we will vote against them in November. We should all stand with Arizona and vote out anyone who does not support Arizona’s right to demand that our laws be enforced. There are American citizens, who immigrated legally, losing their homes in L.A. because of the vast pool of illegals, willing to work for any wage, taking their jobs. The Arizona law even recognizes this problem, so it will benefit legal immigrants. What is the problem Mr. Obama? Don’t you comprendo the word “illegal”?
It is more than votes. It is about a North American Union, and Marxism. This is Treason against the United States of America.
In November vote for the Tea party.
Actually, I’ve been giving this a little free-wheeling thought, and we none of us have really addressed the underlying problem.
Seriously…I haven’t heard a man-jack or woman-jill identify what the ultimate cause of our illegal immigration really is.
Are y’all ready for some heavy-duty Truth?
The underlying problem of which our illegal immigration is but a symptom of is that Mexico and a great deal of Central America are shit-holes.
You cannot deny that this is not the case.
So, to quote a Marxist bastard, who was a true pragmatist and a “results oriented, self-starting go-getter” nevertheless:
“What is to be done?”
How about we take these illegals and train and equip them into an Army of Conquest, and when the moment is ripe, aim them at the rich fat thieving shitpokes back home in El Dungheap-o to overthrow their local kleptocratic oligarchies?
And then maybe they can make of their homelands the decent places that don’t deliberately export their poor that they SHOULD be.
You never know, your cabana boy might be the next Presidente of Guatemala or something.
Ho Chi Minh had been a waiter in New York City once.
Just gotta think out of the box sometimes.
Actually, I’ve been giving this a little free-wheeling thought, and we none of us have really addressed the underlying problem.
Seriously…I haven’t heard a man-jack or woman-jill identify what the ultimate cause of our illegal immigration really is.
Are y’all ready for some heavy-duty Truth?
The underlying problem of which our illegal immigration is but a symptom of is that Mexico and a great deal of Central America are sh!t-holes.
You cannot deny that this is not the case.
So, to quote a Marxist bast@rd, who was a true pragmatist and a “results oriented, self-starting go-getter” nevertheless:
“What is to be done?”
How about we take these illegals and train and equip them into an Army of Conquest, and when the moment is ripe, aim them at the rich fat thieving sh1tpokes back home in El Dungheapo to overthrow their local kleptocratic oligarchies?
And then maybe they can make of their homelands the decent places that don’t deliberately export their poor that they SHOULD be.
You never know, your cabana boy might be the next Presidente of Guatemala or something.
Ho Chi Minh had been a waiter in New York City once.
Just gotta think out of the box sometimes.
That was brilliant! Haven’t laughed this much in days!
This is my first visit to your site. I’m a white, college graduate, single woman in her mid 50s. I was raised in a staunchly democratic family, have been a democrat most of my life, and even had a short stint as a registered socialist shortly after college. I’ve had enough. Our country is being over-run, torn apart, and given away. For me, this violation of states rights in Arizona has been the straw that broke the camel’s back. It seems as though the priciples of freedom and fairness I grew up believing in are being degraded, ridiculed, turned on their head, or outlawed. I can’t envision myself ever voting for a democrat again.
It dissapoints me that so many americans are buying into a rational that allows illegal immigrants to viloate our laws and reap benefits many americans are not entitled to. It also disapoints and annoys me that american business owners as well as ordinary citizens hire illegal immigrants. The simplest, cheapest way to stop illegal immigration is to not take advantage of an illegal immigrant’s willingness to work for less money than we ourselves would expect to be paid.
Efforts have been afoot for quite some time to delegitimize the U.S. as a sovereign country, as is being done to Israel. Our very President, who in Berlin declared himself a “citizen of the world,” seems to be of this mindset.
Living in a state that is totally controlled by Democrats, I find it interesting that whenever I go to vote, I am required to show my photo ID. Even when I purchase something with a debit or credit card that is over $50, I need to show a photo ID. Why do the Dems who control my state think this is perfectly okay, yet scream when the folks in AZ want to do the same thing? It’s perfectly understandable. The ID rules only count when liberals have complete control. They are only upset when Conservatives try to protect their territory.
Use ID rules for employment. If ALL employers were mandated to verify legal status of all their employees, we’d solve this illegal immigrant problem.
Arizona should ignore the judges order by simply enforcing the 1996 immigration act. Title 1, subtitle c, section 133: “Acceptance of State services to carry out immigration enforcement.”
Section 287 (8 U.S.C. 1357) is amended by adding at the end the
following:
“(g)(1) Notwithstanding section 1342 of title 31, United States
Code, the Attorney General may enter into a written agreement with a
State, or any political subdivision of a State, pursuant to which an
officer or employee of the State or subdivision, who is determined by
the Attorney General to be qualified to perform a function of an
immigration officer in relation to the investigation, apprehension, or
detention of aliens in the United States (including the transportation
of such aliens across State lines to detention centers), may carry out
such function at the expense of the State or political subdivision and
to the extent consistent with State and local law. ” READ TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS SECTION”
“(10) Nothing in this subsection shall be construed to require an
agreement under this subsection in order for any officer or employee of
a State or political subdivision of a State–
“(A) to communicate with the Attorney General regarding the
immigration status of any individual, including reporting
knowledge that a particular alien is not lawfully present in the
United States; or
“(B) otherwise to cooperate with the Attorney General in
the identification, apprehension, detention, or removal
__________________________________________________
The last section show there can’t be preemption by States when it acts to cooperate to enforce Immigration law. Seems far fetched to state in law, to otherwise cooperate with the Attorney General in the identification, apprehension, detention, or removal. Then take Arizona to court for doing it.
…. when asked for ID, just say, “No hablo Ingles.”
And for the next step we must DISOBEY the increasingly fascistic feral gummint, DEFUND it — and force it to DEFAULT on the One Hundred and Twenty Trillion Dollars of debt and unfunded liabilities it has dared to criminally incur in our names and laid upon the backs of our already enslaved unborn great-great-grand children.
Better to stiff the bloody foreigners to whom “our” government has dared indebt us, than to enslave our yet unborn family members.
DISOBEY! DEFUND! DEFAULT!
Think about this: the people of Arizona are so desparate that they pass a law that mirrors the federal law in hopes of doing what the Obama administration won’t do. What does this unAmerican Muslim President do? He sues Arizona!!!! This guy is almost as bad as haveing a foreign dictator running our country. Who the hell does he represent? The illegals of course, not the US citizens of Arizona. If he had only screwed up this one thing it might not look like a big deal, but this is a string of anti-American actions that he has taken and folks it has got to stop.
Not only are we required to provide necessary paperwork when required for employment, many employers require references, a background criminal investigation, and a urine sample.
Non enforcement of the immigration law is RACIST. Does anyone believe if most of the invaders were white we would be going through this? Let’s face it folks. “People of Color” are the superior race in America. It has been trending that way for decades to the point that, as long as you are not white, you get to be represented. That’s right, non citizens have the rights Americans used to have. Americans are second class citizens, and the Mexicans invaders hold all the cards.
Pam, you say:
Most of the places I go to do serious business here in the U.S. require me to prove who I am. I am required to provide official identification
Obviously nobody thinks you will ever be President.
“Come November, Remember Yesterday’s ‘Temporary Restraining Order’ in Arizona”
That’s the most USELESS thing anyone can do regarding open mockery of Constitution that this administration/congress/judiciary/media are so diligently engaged in these days. Also, those authors who urge americans to do such useless things are even more than useless—they are, in today’s world—the most effective purveyors of the enemy interests. Effective, because they themselves don’t seem to realize that that’s what they are doing.
Here is the rationale for my claim: YOU CAN NOT WIN A VETO-PROOF MAJORITY in NOV 2010. (and 2012 is even hard to imagine taking place). It is arithmetically impossible to get veto-proof majority in Senate even if the GOP takes ALL the available seats. Look up the numbers on wiki “2010 elections” or something. That means, you can not undo the damage done by the leftist steamroller using congress. PERIOD. Secondly you can not take any PREVENTIVE measures against further agenda which is now actively being enacted by the Executive Branch AND the judiciary. Until 2012 we can huff and puff and revel in our panacea that we would’ve supposedly won in 2010 (but not, really), OR we can do something TODAY. The former is what the most commoners on the Right are looking to do, and almost all commentators on the right seem to believe to be an effective strategy.
Therein lies the seeds of the death of the Republic. The blatant, total, self-absorbed stupidity of the intellectual leaders of the Right. That’s what the clueless author of the this article is doing.
Time to wake up to reality dear Pam Meister, the least you can do is STOP giving false hops to an average (non-leader) person on the Right. And you can do even more, since, unfortunately you are among who get to write for the Rightist masses, you can look at numbers, then THINK, and then tell the audiance that they are actually deluding themselves if they think they are going to win back the paradise through elections (2010 AND 2012) … and think up an ALTERNATIVE to this idiotic obsesssion with useless elections—which may or may not come, to boot.
If the House is taken away from the “Progressives” they don’t really have to repeal anything–they can just refuse to fund it. Just imagine all those SEIU workers (and I do use the term “worker” loosely) not getting a paycheck for an extended period of time because the bill that would fund the agencies they work for (and thus pay their salaries) is a package deal that includes the repeal of Obamacare. And in the meantime all those new agencies that were supposed to implement it don’t have any funding either. None.
Who will blink first?
It’s great being a liberal[?], you can make up the law as you go along. Like a child you can make your wishes come true, then you can all everyone else stupid and racist. A dream come true.
When the normal people regain proper and legal control of America the first priority should be massive funding for new, emergency mental hospitals.
I already see a prime candidate above. Guy must be just dying for all those tax increases, not that he would voluntarily send in his own money now.
We’ll give him a room with a window and nice view, sufficiently rubberized with 24 hr surveillance.
Anytime any Arizona officer arrests anyone for anything who has no identification, they should take them to the Judge’s house and tell the judge to verify their identity, since the judge had instructed law enforcement that they were not allowed to do it themselves. Arizona should set up a liason officer to handle the transfers to the Judge’s house. What would the Judge do then?
Overstepping: Part Two–Lame Ducks and Amnesty
You’ll never go broke betting on the treachery and deceitfulness of politicians.
We saw a classic example last week with the unemployment extension which Democrats could have passed on their own but instead insisted on a two-thirds vote rather than a simple majority in order to embarrass the Republicans three months before the elections.
It lost, as per the Dem plan.
Democrats seem to be plotting more treacherous shenanigans with regard to the amnesty for illegals issue, something Obama and his storm troopers would love to grant in order to garner millions more votes when amnesty is followed by citizenship. And what better time could there be to pull off that scam than during a lame duck session following November 2nd should the Democrats lose the House?
Charles Krauthammer suggests that ousted and retiring Dems, with nothing to lose and no backlash to face, could use those 2 1/2 months before the 112th congress convenes in January to foist all kinds of ideologically controversial laws on the American people before they vacate the premises . . .
(Read more at http://www.genelalor.com/blog1/?p=1817
Cojones and Our Ruling Enemy
Whatever the Left says about former Alaska governor Sarah Palin, and they say a great deal, they can never say she fails to speak her mind.
You betcha, she does!
Like VP Joe Biden, but devoid of Biden’s inanity, Palin tends to think out loud as she did on “Fox News Sunday” in commenting on President Obama and his administration’s selective enforcement of the law.
When Governor Jan Brewer and the state of Arizona elected to enforce federal immigration law since the federal government has failed to do so, Obama and his Justice Department and the Department of Homeland Security denounced the Arizona statute, SB1070, without bothering to read it, then went to court to sue a sovereign state.
Essentially, the administration contended that Arizona had no right to usurp federal law which superseded state law. They won a temporary injunction levied by United States District Court Judge Susan Bolton.
Governor Palin objected not only to the lawsuit but to the federal government’s failure to enforce its own laws equally. Arizona was deemed not in compliance but the 31 American cities which are self-designated “sanctuary cities” and which have instituted ordinances, effectively local laws, in violation of federal laws were given a free pass.
Among other issues, Palin addressed that inequity, that selective law enforcement, and denounced the president as lacking “the cojones” which Governor Brewer has: http://tiny.cc/w6sgp
Aside from the technical impossibility of a woman possessing those male appurtenances, Palin’s remark is right on the money. (Incidentally, before liberals start attacking Palin for having a potty mouth, then-U.N. ambassador Madelyn Albright used the same graphic terminology in reference to Cubans back in 1996.)
Obama and Company wink at cities . . .
(Read more at http://www.genelalor.com/blog1/?p=1821)