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Climategate: Who Benefits When the IPCC Lies?

A false claim by the IPCC shows up in several grant applications for companies with IPCC members on their boards.

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Charlie Martin

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January 26, 2010 - 9:01 am
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What if there really are people exploiting the anthropogenic global warming panic purely for personal gain? A lot has happened in the climate change debate in the two months since the Climategate files were first revealed to the world. Oddly, the latest news hasn’t been making the papers in the U.S., but it sure has been in London.

One thing that has become clear is that the science in the IPCC reports was suspiciously slanted. Last weekend one of the IPCC principals, Dr. Murari Lal, admitted that they had introduced 2035 as the year the Himalayan glaciers would disappear — even though they knew it was questionable — in order to have more political impact:

Dr. Murari Lal also said he was well aware the statement, in the 2007 report by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), did not rest on peer-reviewed scientific research.

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In an interview with The Mail on Sunday, Dr. Lal, the coordinating lead author of the report’s chapter on Asia, said: “It related to several countries in this region and their water sources. We thought that if we can highlight it, it will impact policy-makers and politicians and encourage them to take some concrete action. It had importance for the region, so we thought we should put it in.”

But why? Are they simply true believers who feel that the risk of anthropogenic global warming is so great that skewing the science would be justified? As scientists, that would be bad enough. But there’s another explanation. Could it be that the skewing of the results is not just being done by true believers, but instead by cynical manipulators intent on their own gain?

It’s the “second story” of Climategate.

It’s been considered here at Pajamas Media in the past, but there is much new evidence now, much of it focusing on Dr. Rajendra K. Pachauri, chairman of the IPCC, and The Energy Research Institute (TERI), his putative employer. TERI is an offshoot of Tata Group, the oldest — and one of the most respected — of Indian industrial firms. This was a lot more obvious before TERI changed its name, when it was the Tata Energy Research Institute, but the organization is the same.

What’s new is that we’re starting to uncover real connections. First, there’s the “slip” that led to the IPCC AR4 report claiming that the Himalayan glaciers could be gone by 2035. We now know that’s not true. It was based on a World Wildlife Fund report, not peer-reviewed, which was itself based on a New Scientist article. The New Scientist article was quoting Dr. Syed Hasnain.

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39 Comments, 39 Threads

  1. 1. Supreme Allied Commander

    Charlie the question you pose is like Olympic athletes using steroids.

    people say why would some one at that caliber use steroids?

    simple …they didn’t just start to use them as they prepared for the Olympics they used them since they started to be competitive and then could not just stop as they would lose.

    the crooks and criminals in the global warming crusade are just crooks and cheats and have no intention of quitting. no doubt many are motivated by the money, but I think they believe the end justifies the means.

  2. 2. Supreme Allied Commander

    Again, this was bad enough. The actual report was not good science, and the IPCC was forced to withdraw it.

    Charlie if this is the case how much of the IPCC report should still exist ?

  3. 3. Valerie

    Use of knowing lies to get money. That is fraud.

    The real researchers that I know are scrupulous about over-promising on their results. They are keenly aware that the public tends to take reports from scientific studies and run with them in unpredictable ways. I can understand a non-scientist, non-mathematically literate politician like Al Gore being alarmed and amplifying exaggerated claims about a scientific matter. I can find no innocent explanation for such claims to appear in a grant application.

  4. 4. Steve

    I think the grant money is small potatoes compared to the planned taxes and carbon credits. The climate scientists have ruined their reputations. They should lose their funding. The bigger fish are the politicians and their accomplices in business. An example should be made of Dr Pachauri and Al Gore. Why not start a petition asking the Nobel committee to revoke the 2007 Peace prize given to the IPCC and Al Gore?

  5. 5. cfbleachers

    There are several sins here, Charlie…and several co-conspirators.

    Michael Mann and Penn State ought to be investigated. There appears to be a conspiracy to create a “fraud in the inducement” offense against the taxpayers of America, and for the intended coverup by the media.

    The “data dropoff” stunt, was pulled throughout the advancement of this junk science long con. Mann and the conspirators at East Anglia intentionally withheld vital information related to the “science”, in order to gain a monetary advantage over those who chose instead, to tell the truth.

    Moreover, they created a criminal conspiracy after the fact, by engaging in smear campaigns against anyone who dared to dig deeper.

    The entrenched American media…and other leftist outlets in the U.K. and elsewhere, sat on their hands as silent co-conspirators in the “data dropoff” within the entrenched leftist media itself.

    They KNEW that something was amiss…and yet, they continued to bury the story in order to keep the long con alive. The media “data dropoff” continues to this day in America. They are still burying the whistleblower portion of the story…and still…stunningly…advance the global warming hoax from time to time.

    The REAL story…is how the American entrenched media conspires to defraud the populace it pretends to defend. Because as big an issue as global warming is…the stolen information stream, filled with lies, distortion deceit and “data dropoff” …because there is not an issue, of any magnitude, that isn’t impacted by that same intent to defraud. We can’t trust our information stream. On any issue. They are willing to conspire against our interests. We no longer trust them.

    When you are the victim of a con, you might call in the cops…those assigned to protect you. When those assigned to protect you are conspirators in the crime…where do you turn?

    Keep digging, Charlie. But don’t stop…until you have included ALL the conspirators. Including the entrenched media. ESPECIALLY the entrenched media. A criminal enterprise if ever there was one.

  6. 6. Dark Helmet

    This is not about a few people making a billion dollars. This is a pretext for setting up a one world government through the un.

    It must be stopped.

    If you are going to research, look at the whole puzzle, not just the pieces with the pretty clouds on it.

    Then you’ll start to see how obammy is trying to bring us to our knees and why.

    dh

  7. 7. Valerie

    Well, perhaps good sense will prevail with respect to the taxes and carbon credits. The Pew research center says Americans rate “global warming” dead last when it comes to major concerns.

    http://people-press.org/report/584/policy-priorities-2010.

    I notice that “environment” has a much higher rating. That makes sense. People tend to agree that we have to clean up our messes. They don’t agree that carbon dioxide is a pollutant.

  8. 8. Tarbender

    To prevent the unwashed (us) from doing anything stupid, the all-powerful, all wise “guardians” have to tell us a few “noble” lies. And of course, these “annointed elite” caretakers themselves are exempt from most of the rules they make for others. A technocracy, many Ivy League educated, without much experience outside academia and government, push legislation most citizens do not want but is nevertheless judged to be “good for them”. Our philosopher-king president says of our fierce resistance….”I know what happens once I get this done. The
    American folk will suddenly learn that this bill does things they like.” Just like China’s Chaiman Mao, an all knowing elite, Obama seems to feel that those who he deems “less informed” will “suddenly” learn to appreciate his benevolent guidance once these laws are pushed through. Why would anyone believe or trust someone like this. The Chicago gang are just that. Thugs, gangsters, thieves and frauds. Wake up Americans.

  9. 9. John Blake

    We’d bet that nothing, repeat nothing, cited by Pachauri’s IPCC or for that matter the ineffable Ban Ki-moon (who asserted last September that without an immediate ten-trillion dollar [yes, $10-trillion] infusion to his kleptomaniacal UN, Planet earth would be transformed to a “baking desert” before New Year’s 2010) has the slightest credible provenance, “scientific” or otherwise.

    All very well to rebut propagandists’ ongoing derelictions, but the self-evident point is that these are uniformly hyper-politicized advocacy themes, spewed forth for the sole purpose of financing a cap-and-trade Thieves’ Market to the direct benefit of reigning apparatchiks,
    irresponsible and unaccountable to nth degree.

    Bad faith, false pretenses pervade Climate Cultists’ entire Warmist enterprise. Gore’s Green Gang of peculating academics, rabid ideological extremists, has so entrenched itself that its unmaking will require efforts quite as determined and long-lasting as those that originally enabled such death-eating Luddite nihilism (see Keith Farnish, “Time’s Up”, as reported by James Delingpole in the U.K. Telegraph this January 22nd).

    On the threshold of a 70-year Maunder Minimum, these Statist sociopaths’ purposeful sabotage, subversion of global energy economies alone violates every canon of civilized –nevermind ethical, moral, legal– behavior. The idea that Briffa, Hansen, Jones, Mann, Trenberth et al. lent prestige to wretched poseurs like Ban Ki-moon and the scrofulous Pachauri demands full-scale prosecution in every possible venue.

  10. 10. ken 67

    cfbleachers “The entrenched American media…and other leftist outlets in the U.K. and elsewhere, sat on their hands……”
    sat???? I agree with your statement, but they continue to sit on their hands.

  11. 11. Pappadave

    Almost everything these greenies have tried to promote, from DDT is killing bald eagles, to AGW, has ultimately turned out to be as bogus as a pewter dollar. Why is ANYONE paying them the slightest attention any longer?

  12. Subvert capitalism and make a boatload of money in the process. That’s the way to go for our little nihilists- subversives- neocommies.

    A masterwork of self-contradictions, an intellectual cemetery, a spiritual death.
    These are the happy times we live in…

  13. 13. Chuck

    Steve: “Why not start a petition asking the Nobel committee to revoke the 2007 Peace prize given to the IPCC and Al Gore?”

    I realize you probably said that tongue-in-cheek, but it’s much more than someone being undeserving of an award . . . this is their religion. These people believe they have to do whatever it takes to get people to march lock-step in line with their ideology – the means to do so be damned; for their ends, no justification is necessary. Dark Helmet is right – it’s not about helping or protecting people, or even enabling friends to make a m/billions; it’s about moving toward one world order. Once you realize this, then you can begin to understand what these people are about – their agenda is hidden, sinister and frightening.

    The U.S. didn’t become a world power by accident – it was the result of a collection of good, honest, decent people doing the right thing day in, day out. Global warming extremists (the new term, I suppose, is “climate changers” – the cooling we are experiencing made it necessary to change the terminology) are trying to undermine everything they’ve done, by taking away their freedom, their money, their sovereignty, everything. By the same token, third world countries are not that way by accident either -their governments are corrupt and self-serving. Poverty exists in direct proportion to the amount of government corruption.

  14. 14. Scott E

    This stuff is all deeply disturbing. I look forward to the vindication that those who felt as though there was a bad stink associated with the AGW movement get to exercise.

  15. 15. karlinsync

    Corruption corruption corruption and the high end lifestyle, money galore, and the scientists live happily ever after. Of course their good name is trash but with millions in the bank I could choose this lie to tell and never look back. How about that Mr. Smart..AL GORE? Gosh, he has $100 million+ in the bank. Pretty easy retirement on the back of taxpayers! What is his punishment?

  16. #15 Karlinsync

    What is his punishment?

    Are you kidding ?
    Imagine that, being Al Gore the rat. Talk about bad karma.

    I say, let’s pray for him, he sorely needs it.

    PS Yes, in theory we should pray for the devil itself.
    I know it doesn’t sound good.

  17. 17. M. Report

    Climategate: Who Benefits When the IPCC Lies?

    We do, if we have the wit to learn from experience:

    The Web made it possible to expose the AGW fraud,
    The Web is the reason a Republican is sitting in
    Ted Kennedy’s seat in Congress. In general, the Web
    increases both the volume and speed of information
    flow, shining the light of truth on evil doers in
    time for us to see and oppose their doings. It also
    shrinks our world, allowing us to meet in cyberspace,
    where even global politics are local.

    You shall know the truth, and the truth shall keep you free.

  18. 18. geoffgo

    Thanks Charlie,

    Keep on it.

    Shut the EPA, and every gov’t (city, county, state, regional & federal) program in any way related to “climate change.” Declare AGW the criminal enterprise it is. Use RICO. Whole slew of new mission statements forthcoming from inumerable agencies and depts will need re-validating.

    UN? Withdraw – defund – evict. No more cozy get-togethers for the enemy sponsored by the US taxpayer. Let’s see how long they last, headqtr’d in the EU. Those who wish to be allies will want to join US on new and clearer terms.

  19. #1,2 SACPJM:Charlie if this is the case how much of the IPCC report should still exist ?

    That is a really good question, that I haven’t really thought about yet. Thanks.

    #4 Steve:I think the grant money is small potatoes compared to the planned taxes and carbon credits.

    You’re right, but that’s another story, upcoming. See also the Follow the Money post on 23 December.

    Thanks to everyone else for your comments; I just don’t have anything useful to say in reply.

  20. 20. dave m

    If science is lying to us when it comes to global warming, why we should trust them when it comes to other unproven proclamations? I say we question and test everything these guys say.

  21. Corruption in the IPCC and its hangers-on? But of course! Besides, betting on a man’s self-interest is usually a higher percentage play than betting on his altruism or his selfless dedication to Truth. It’s the basis of the Public Choice effect, and of Parkinson’s First Law, and of many things we tolerate in private persons and organizations, but condemn when they intrude into public affairs.

    Some things, as H. L. Mencken wrote, we must bear stoically, “with philosophy,” such as “bad cooking, the noise of the city, and the certainty of death.” Others we must oppose with all our forces. And in some cases, context is the deciding factor. There is no escape.

  22. 22. tarpon

    Government’s want the taxes, the sluch funds, the excuses to make it all work.

    Of government, by government, for government. And that is how you know government has gotten too big.

    we now move into the position where the good honest scientists need to step up, or get sucked into the untrusted … But why did they stand silent before, grant money distributed by governments.

  23. 23. baal

    It’s about control of the means of producing energy = control of the means of production. Is it surprising to us that I guy who is essentially the front man for a self interested lot of multinationals positioning themselves to benefit happens to be in charge?
    As political conservatives we walk a fine line advocating for free markets and advocating for out national sovereignty.

    The future will require us to remember this and view the situation with open eyes. One day China and India will have economies possibly larger than ours. This does not make them enemies, but we need to keep our own national sovereignty in mind and remember–these guys are as smart as we are, and they will design clever devices to further their interests, sometimes at our expense.

  24. #20 Dave M: I say we question and test everything these guys say.

    Which is, in itself, good science.

  25. 25. cfbleachers

    Ken, #10 I agree….I was simply referring to the history up to that point…nothing has changed, in terms of their behavior currently, nor do I expect any “coming clean” in the future.

  26. 26. Jack in Silver Spring

    Charlie – You’re doing what the MSM used to do, good old fashioned reporting. Today the MSM is too busy preaching “social justice” to us.

    In any event, it seem to me that the IPCC is part of a much larger problem, and that larger problem being the corrupt UN. When I was younger (much younger) I thought the UN could be a force for good. Sadly, it has become a force for evil, and the IPCC is only one face of that evil. Think of the UN’s Human Rights Commission headed up by countries who should be defendants and not judges; think of UNWRA which aids and abets Arab violence against Israel; think of the General Assembly dominated by countries where democracy is a dirty word. No, the UN has long outlived any usefulness it once might have had. Better to shut it down, reclaim the land in Manhattan and use that land for better purposes.

  27. 27. Fortunate Son

    “Who Benefits When the IPCC Lies?” Bureaucracies do. Aside from the money grabber Gore types who want real wealth, there exists a bureaucratic class that is continuously trying to suck everyone else dry who work for a living.

    The problem with all these scientists pushing AGW is they work in bureaucracies and therefore become part of the bureaucratic class. The only goal of a bureaucracy is to perpetuate itself by growing larger and sucking up more money. Some bureaucracies have legitimate functions, but even those could be a lot more efficient than they are. Because of their inefficiency, bureaucracies have to invent things to do so they can appear busy and keep sucking up more money.

    These guys don’t have to make a real living so they don’t have to day to day stress of making a buck. So, without these worries “Who Benefits When the IPCC Lies?” Bureaucracies do. Aside from the money grabber Gore types who want real wealth, there exists a bureaucratic class that is continuously trying to suck everyone else dry who works for a living.

    The problem with all these scientists pushing AGW is they work in bureaucracies and therefore become bureaucrats themselves. The only goal of a bureaucracy is to perpetuate itself by growing larger and sucking up more money. Some bureaucracies have legitimate functions, but even those could be a lot more efficient than they are. Because of their inefficiency, bureaucracies have to invent things to do so they can appear busy and keep sucking up more money. They have to keep growing to their management can justify higher salaries and more perks.

    These guys don’t have to make a real living so they don’t have deal with the day to day stress of making a buck. Without these worries they have plenty of time to think about the more esoteric things like extreme environmentalism, social injustices etc. Things like Cap and Trade are very attractive to all bureaucrats because that will enable them to suck up even more money.

    What I don’t get is why they bash very entity (capitalism) that provides the wealth and funds their lavish ways. Communism and socialism never work. Don’t they realize where their salaries come from?

    The U.N. is one such large bureaucracy that continually grows. What value to they provide and versus much money do they suck up? They certainly don’t provide any value added to the United States. Why is the U.S. still the U.N. anyway? This is very frustrating.

  28. 28. Fortunate Son

    “Who Benefits When the IPCC Lies?” Bureaucracies do. Aside from the money grabber Gore types who want real wealth, there exists a bureaucratic class that is continuously trying to suck everyone else dry who works for a living.

    The problem with all these scientists pushing AGW is they work in bureaucracies and therefore become bureaucrats themselves. The only goal of a bureaucracy is to perpetuate itself by growing larger and sucking up more money. Some bureaucracies have legitimate functions, but even those could be a lot more efficient than they are. Because of their inefficiency, bureaucracies have to invent things to do so they can appear busy and continue to suck up more money. They have to keep growing so their management can justify higher salaries and more perks.

    These guys don’t have to make a real living so they don’t have to deal with the day to day stress of making a buck. Without these worries they have plenty of time to think about the more esoteric things like extreme environmentalism, social injustices etc. Things like Cap and Trade are very attractive to all bureaucrats because that will enable them to suck up even more money.

    What I don’t get is why they bash very entity (capitalism) that provides the wealth and funds their lavish ways. Communism and socialism never work. Don’t they realize where their salaries come from?

    The U.N. is one such large bureaucracy that continually grows. What value to they provide and versus much money do they suck up? They certainly don’t provide any “value added” to the United States. Why is the U.S. still the U.N. anyway? This is very frustrating.

    Disrgard the above post. Apparently cut and paste is not my friend today.

  29. 29. Fortunate Son

    “Who Benefits When the IPCC Lies?” Bureaucracies do. Aside from the money grabber Gore types who want real wealth, there exists a bureaucratic class that is continuously trying to suck everyone else dry who works for a living.

    The problem with all these scientists pushing AGW is they work in bureaucracies and therefore become bureaucrats themselves. The only goal of a bureaucracy is to perpetuate itself by growing larger and sucking up more money. Some bureaucracies have legitimate functions, but even those could be a lot more efficient than they are. Because of their inefficiency, bureaucracies have to invent things to do so they can appear busy and keep sucking up more money. They have to keep growing to their management can justify higher salaries and more perks.

    These guys don’t have to make a real living so they don’t have to deal with the day to day stress of making a buck. Without these worries they have plenty of time to think about the more esoteric things like extreme environmentalism, social injustices etc. Things like Cap and Trade are very attractive to all bureaucrats because that will enable them to suck up even more money.

    What I don’t get is why they bash very entity (capitalism) that provides the wealth and funds their lavish ways. Communism and socialism never work. Don’t they realize where their salaries come from?

    The U.N. is one such large bureaucracy that continually grows. What value to they provide and versus much money do they suck up? They certainly don’t provide any value added to the United States. Why is the U.S. still the U.N. anyway? This is very frustrating.

  30. 30. Pragmatist

    The time has surely long come when all those who benefited FINANCIALLY from the AGW SCAM intentional deception and lies had the money and grants they DID NOT DESERVE clawed back from them. Those who actually participated in creating, inventing and propagating the LIES and the SCAM and who also BENEFITED financially and in other ways need to be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Stand up there MR GORE.

  31. 31. JustAl

    What has always blown me away is how eager people are to belive this junk. How obvious does it have to be that the technology to accurately measure “global” temperatures does not exist? Even the most basic technology; the humble mercury thermometer has only existed since the mid 18th century. Even if every other variable had been held rock solid (not allowing the build up of “heat islands” around stations, using all of the data from all of the stations, only using actual data as opposed to estimated, using the same calibration techniques etc., etc. then the data generated would be woefully inadequate to establish a baseline, let alone a trend in a 4.5 billion year old system.

    It had the makings of the perfect scam. No one could prove their solutions didn’t work because no one could prove the problem ever existed. If they hadn’t gotten in a hurry, over reached, and ultimately blabbed too much, they just might have carried it off.

  32. 32. vega

    @ dave m:
    “If science is lying to us when it comes to global warming, why we should trust them when it comes to other unproven proclamations? I say we question and test everything these guys say.”

    Sure! The next to question should be the theory of “Big Bang” (that Universe, allegedly, had had a beginning, or will have, perhaps, an end). Another, “uncertainty principle” (which broader implication is that one should not be so sure or anything…

  33. 33. Scott

    Me thinks there’s a shred of truth in every lie and we should be seeking truth by whatever means we stumble across it. Even if it means we go way off the track we can learn something. All things work for the good…

  34. 34. ic

    Weren’t we lucky to have that AGW-denier for president after the Koyoto? Isn’t Gore the luckiest sob on the warming planet to lose the re-count and reaped $700 million peddling snake oil? Now he can jet around in his private jet, yacht his hundreds feet yacht, sleep in a different bedroom in his humongous energy guzzling mansion.

    Isn’t life grand?

  35. 35. John A. Jauregui

    This is MediaGate, not ClimateGate! Are you angry about this obvious RICO Act fraud and the national media’s complicity in the cover-up, misinformation, reframing and misdirection of the issue and the related “carbon derivatives” market Obama’s Administration is spinning up? Why pay for propaganda? Take responsibility and take action. STOP all donations to the political party(s) responsible for this fraud. STOP donations to all environmental groups which funded this Global Warming propaganda campaign with our money, especially The World Wildlife Fund. They have violated the public trust. KEEP donations local, close to home. MAKE donations to Oklahoma’s Senator Inhofe, the only politician to stand firmly against this obvious government/media coordinated information operation (propaganda) targeted at its own people. People that government leaders and employees are sworn to protect. WRITE your state and federal representatives demanding wall to wall investigations of government sponsored propaganda campaigns and demand indictments of those responsible. WRITE your state and federal Attorneys General demanding Al Gore and others conducting Global Warming/Climate Change racketeering and mail fraud operations be brought to justice, indicted, tried, convicted and jailed. Carbon is the stuff of life. He (Obama) who controls carbon, especially CO2, controls the world. Think of the consequences if you do nothing! For one, the UK is becoming the poster child for George Orwell’s “1984” and the US government’s sponsorship of this worldwide Global Warming propaganda campaign puts it in a class with the failed Soviet Union’s relentless violation of the basic human right to truthful government generated information. Given ClimateGate’s burgeoning revelations of outrageous government misconduct and massive covert misinformation, what are the chances that this Administration’s National Health Care sales campaign is anywhere near the truth?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bdneX1djD

    http://www.kusi.com/weather/colemanscorner/81559212.html

  36. 36. Greg James

    Every single one of these fraudsters should be investigated, and if warranted, tried and if found guilty, thrown in gaol.

    What is being exposed in the last two to three months about these fraudulent scamsters is sickening. Its scandalous.

    On calculation done by others it seems that the western world has wasted $80 Billion on a massive swindle. How much proper environmental good could that have been done if properly directed.

    The whole thing is sickening and these people must be held accountable.

    Greg
    Melbourne, OZ

  37. 37. JFM

    About AGW and the doctoring of data. I have never seen someone cheat when he has a royal flush in hand. If the data showed GW was real why GW activists tampered with it?

  38. 38. David

    Hi Carlie,
    your questions are right. IPCC and R.K Pacauri is a fraud. He cleverly like cunning fox opened up his Pvt company TERI (The Energy Research Institute)in the same line of another family business hub (Tata Energy Research Institute, under Ratan Naval Tata) He, Pachuri cleverly hidden the truth.He actually did a voodoo science to full the world and manage huge funds.DFID of UK had given million + GBP and many others too.
    I think, he must be removed from IPCC immediately and India Goverment must force him to close down his company TERI.He must be dragged to International Court and punish,extract the money from his company and refund to the donor agency, keep him in jail for 100 years.Indian and India is highly dirty and corrupt.He is an Indian citizen.India can’t be trusted for any responsible job.His plan was to mint money by fooling world.
    I think UN must take strong action urgently.He is a fraud and cheated the world and society.

  39. 39. Rubicon

    Even as we learn more & more of the IPCC reports are bunk, the media sit on their hands doing no investigative work to uncover this scam. The European Cap & Trade system made Gore rich. From $2 to $3 million after his failed election bid, to over $100 million today. Imagine his profits if the law forces all American companies to buy into the Cap & Trade system. Our legislation pays more to the Cap & Traders marketing those bogus documents. Al could be worth billions in almost no time.
    But Al is only part of his as mentioned by others. The United Nations has been desperately seeking a lucrative income stream ever since the days when Reagan either slowed payments or stopped them. They want money coming in that is not tied to a nation states dues. That way, the UN can act on its own money w/o the approval of any nation state.
    Imagine the UN w/o any restrictions. Imagine the UN developing international ‘authority’ to act on almost any issue ‘they’ deem worthy. From parks, to the atmosphere, to guns, to medicines, to..
    well to almost anything that will give them control, and profits of course.
    The UN revealed openly at Copenhagen that they sought global governance. Thats PC talk for one world government. Of course it will be a socialist style government w/ representatives from every nation. “Unelected” representatives of course. See, the representatives must be ‘on board’ w/ whatever the current UN agenda happens to be. A new world monetary system, they control. A new world health system, they control. A new world order, they control.
    Years ago had anyone mentioned the UN sought one world government, they would have been mocked, marginalized, your work or statements causes for derision & to be ignored, called pathetic & paranoid. Back then, you were an outcast, an outsider, a denier of reality. Today, the deniers of AGW or Climate Change are the deniers. They too have been mocked, marginalized, your work or statements causes for derision & to be ignored, called pathetic & paranoid.
    Today, the UN admits openly they want a one world government. Today we also begin to find out the Climate Change groupies have been lying about some very important facts. Facts they used to justify their claims about what Climate Change would do to us.
    The glaciers are not melting! Is the Polar Bear population really dropping or, as the Inuit Indians of Alaska say, are their numbers really increasing? Is Antarctic ice melting, OR, is it melting on one side of the continent but seriously increasing on the other as is reported by some scientists who go unheard from & of in media circles? Are we to believe Russian scientists who now say the surface temperature readings used to determine our global surface temperature to justify the claims of global warming, failed to include readings from Siberia? You know, the really cold part of Russia! W/ actual readings included, does anyone want to bet the real earth global surface temperature is as high as we have been told or that it is rising at the rate we have been told? Missing Siberia is a real boo boo!
    We already know the surface temperature readings taken at multiple if not all stations in America, include readings from many sites that are on asphalt or on roofs beside AC condensers, or in parking lots beside parked cars. Think maybe the location of a temperature gage might affect its reliability? Well in America, many of those gages are located so poorly that their reliability is obviously faulty.
    One world government by a UN.. by people who have lied to us. One world government by a UN that attacks America, capitalism (just as our current President does), wants to control guns, wants to control economies, wants to control health care, wants to control the media, wants to control…. well, you get the message.
    At least I hope many do. Seems to me, we all have allowed our political, media, & elite class to tell us what to do, while we sat back trusting they knew what they were saying & doing.
    Then again, maybe these folks really do know what they are saying & doing! Now, if you were a little frightened before, you should be downright scared to death.
    Me, I prefer to be angry enough that I will help to politically put an end to their schemes!
    How about you?

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