Climategate: Obama’s Science Adviser Confirms the Scandal — Unintentionally
Nathan Bindoff, also a lead author of the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change’s 2007 Fourth Assessment Report (hereafter LA-IPCC FAR)
Peter Cox, also LA-IPCC FAR
David Karoly, also LA-IPCC FAR and the Third Assessment Report (TAR)
Georg Kaser, also LA-IPCC FAR
Michael E. Mann, also LA-IPCC TAR (the hockey stick scandal made him too radioactive to participate in writing FAR)
Stefan Rahmstorf, also LA-IPCC FAR
Hans Joachim Schellnhuber, merely “a longstanding member of the IPCC.”
Stephen Schneider, also LA-IPCC FAR, TAR, and the First and Second Assessment Reports (SAR) plus two of the IPCC’s synthesis reports
Steven Sherwood, only a contributing author to IPCC-FAR
Richard C. J. Somerville, co-ordinating LA-PCC FAR
Eric J. Steig, no connection to IPCC listed
Andrew Weaver, also LA-IPCC FAR, TAR, and SAR
In the interests of space, I’ve left out all of their distinguished positions as professors, editors of academic journals, and heads of institutes. You can search for their Climategate emails here.
Then there are those Climategate figures who didn’t help write Climate Diagnosis, but who have been involved in the IPCC assessment reports. Here are three that come to mind:
Phil Jones, contributing author IPCC TAR
Kevin Trenberth, co-ordinating LA-IPCC FAR and SAR, LA-IPCC TAR, and an author of the summaries for policymakers for FAR, TAR, and SAR
Ben Santer, convening LA-IPCC First Assessment Report
Now, I wouldn’t want to jump to any conclusions here, but it kind of looks to me like the “small group of scientists” caught out by Climategate are pretty much the same people who make up the vast and strong scientific consensus on global warming and write the official reports that the U.S. and other governments rely on to inform their policy decisions. I’m sure Dr. John P. Holdren, President Obama’s science adviser, has a plausible alternative explanation. He always does.






Indeed …
In real science, if your hypothesis is proved wrong by emperical observations and data, you are finished. The missing greenhouse signature proves the hypothesis of CO2 forced climate is wrong — The computer models, all of which use the CRU dataset as their start point, are wrong, falsified.
So in a sane world that would be, as they say, that. Need new hypothesis. It’s no wonder CRU had to fake and manipulate the data.
Open mouth, insert leg… And this is Obama’s “smart power”??? I shudder to think what it does when they are thinking…
In “The Bear & Dragon” by Tom Clancy, the Chinese Defense Minister said the situation is by no means lost. The Defense Minister, like Obama’s science advisor, chose his words too carefully, for a reversible situation is code for a policy disaster.
The lemmings who follow Al Gore, and the scientists that Mr. Ebell listed, will never admit their guilt, and frankly it reduces their legitimacy to the level of the “Brezhnev-era apparatchik” referred to by Daniel Hannan in his 3 and a half minute rebuttal of British Prime Minister Brown, in the European Parliament, which was then added to YouTube, and in a short amount of time went viral.
Oh I’m sure he’ll just say that this 40% or so are just on the latest document as “advisors” or “consultants” or some such and didn’t really have any real impact on the “true meaning” of the report.
BTW if he actually says any of those things I will laugh so hard because it shows how predictable these folks are.
Myron – Dr. Holdren is obviously ignoring the fact that all the climate data sets are inextricably linked and hence are all contaminated and unreliable. (My thanks to Viscount Lord Monckton for pointing that out.) Hence, any conclusions drawn by climatologists from those data sets have to be dismissed. If Dr. Holdren is to be worthy of the Ph.D. that allows him to use the title, doctor, then he must know what I am saying is true. Science only proceeds on testable hypotheses that are verified by data. At the moment there are no reliable data, and hence there can be no verification. Consequently, he cannot say it is just a small group of scientists. While it may true that a small group of scientists may have cooked the books, those books are used by all climatologists, and so any of the conclusions by all climatologists mean nothing.
Unfortunately, there are too many busybodies who would rather control our every movement than allow us to proceed in making our own decisions as free people. They will continue to argue there is AGW irrespective or reality.
damn the science full speed ahead. i need to know if carbon credits will be sold at the am-pm, 7-11, or the piggly wiggly, like lotto tickets?
i wish someone at the meeting had had the brains to say:
“i’m so please to hear that you support openness. when can we expect NASA/GISS to respond to the numerous FOI requests for access to their raw data and the models and algorithms by which they adjust the data and compile a global average? shall we call jim hansen together?”
I’m sure that Michael Crichton is looking down now and laughing his ass off.
So much of the AGW BS relies on those “few scientists” that someone better lock up the originals of the reports that refer to them. Otherwise the Orwell crew in the Seroto administration will be editing history as fast as they can so that their absurd arguments and conclusions no longer refer to those “few scientiests” that are now obvious liars (as opposed to not yet exposed liars who are all feeding at the federal grant pork farm).
Regards
Talk about synchronisity. I just ran across “The Copenhagen Diagnosis” the other day on nasa.gov. This morning I found the time to look at it. Its a real piece of work. I am amazed that propaganda like this is presented as science. I was aware that NASA was complicit in proselytising AGW hysteria, having noticed the many fallacious climate studies they have been reporting for the last 10 years. In fact, the reason I was browsing NASA.gov, was to see what they were up to in light of the resent revelations. Were supposed to look to these bozos for science?
As surely as the earth’s climate changes, the political climate in Washington D.C. will change. Those at the heart of these criminal acts will eventually be prosecuted. I would like to see the email traffic between the Dirty Dozens now.
This entire situation is truly pathetic.
1. Obama has surrounded himself with the most staggeringly incompetent bunch of lying, socialist, weird nut jobs as has ever been assembled by an American president.
2. Rather than reporting news, the American MSM routinely lies, manipulates, covers up, and viciously attacks, just like some climate scientists have been accused of doing.
3. Hard-left liberals have contaminated and heavily politicized American school systems, liberal arts colleges, Hollywood, the MSM, the CIA, the prize committees for the Nobel, the Pulitzer, the Oscars; the U.S. Departments of State, the EPA, Justice, Education, Civil Rights, HHS, Environment, and many more.
4. Mean, profoundly dishonest, radical, extremist, blind fools like Waxman, Boxer, Pelosi, Reed, Shermer, Dodd, and others run the House and the Senate. Would you trust any one of these people to be able to successfully mow your lawn?
5. Perhaps 10 arrogant, radical-left billionaires have made it their life’s mission to systematically turn America into a totalitarian socialist/communist nation.
6. It is an open question as to whether the U.S. will financially collapse in the next few years, under multiple trillions of dollars of debt. And Obama and Congress seem not only oblivious to this, but actually eager to add another trillion of debt each year, with not the foggiest idea how it can ever be paid back or reduced. This might be an effort to better enact #5 above.
7. The global warming scam, certainly the largest single scam in the history of the world, is almost certainly the method of establishing a permanent, unelected, totalitarian world government. This would be hastened by making Western nations voluntarily and permanently cripple their own economies, and also forcing the transfer of hundreds of billions of dollars per year from the Western nations to everyone else.
DesertYote (10)
I haven’t trusted scientists on either evolution since about ’76 when they admitted their theories were wrong but just added another several billion years to the age of everything in order to make the evolution probabilities less absurd. About that same time they started talking about going back to an agrarian society to avoid causing another Ice Age and I quit trusting them on the environment as well.
As it stands, they’re evolution theory on things that exceed the very definition of statistically absurd. Whether evolution is true or not isn’t the issue for me, it’s whether or not people can claim to be scientists and insist that their theory be the only one taught or even mentioned in a reasonable way when they have no scientific basis that isn’t absurd by any reasonable standard of probability. If they can come up with some theory of evolution that is possible within the known lifetime of the universe then fine, it’s a reasonable theory. The fact that the environmental movement went from totally reasonable to totally irrational within a decade after Earth Day was reason enough to know they were lying and just advancing an agenda on the environmental front whether it’s the “Next Ice Age” hysteria or the current hysteria, just like so many of them are just advancing an agenda when they stick to absurdities about evolution rather than at least try to find a more reasonable basis for their theory.
Once scientists are can get away with picking a theory and demeaning or disposing of everyone who questions it, it’s just a matter of time before they just make up what they like to advance their agenda, whatever that agenda may be.
Regards
Non-weapons science almost to 100% died with Climategate. RIP.
Weapons science (nuclear, and non-nuclear) is alive, and it is normally in conjunction with the scientific method, testing, hydrodynamics, computer simulation, qantum mechanics, special – and general relativity, the uncertainty principle, and in the future, if needed, with quantum fluctuations, as well.
Say No To Climategate!!!
Non-weapons science almost to 100% died with Climategate. RIP.
Weapons science (nuclear, and non-nuclear) is alive, and it is normally in conjunction with the scientific method, testing, hydrodynamics, computer simulation, quantum mechanics, special – and general relativity, the uncertainty principle, and in the future, if needed, with quantum fluctuations, as well.
Say No To Climategate!!!
Very nice work Myron. There’s an effort by AGW supporters to minimize the damage by saying it’s only a “small group” of scientists. But that group, as you so well point out, sets the tone for all the other groups.
Because of these elitist propagandist we have have to revisit much of the GW research done these past ten years…
Climate/Climategate Updates Part Two
Despite all the damning revelations out of Britain’s East Anglia University, the belly of the global warming conspiracy, COP15, the United Nations’ international climate summit in Copenhagen, will go on as planned.
With President Obama, the twenty-first century’s answer to the indecisive Hamlet, tossing his hat into the climate cesspool, previously-dashed hopes for any successful agreements at COP15 have been resuscitated: http://bit.ly/8kzkhh
Glory be!
That means that the U.N. may yet seduce the United States into agreeing to devastating deals that will benefit the Third World and decimate American industry all because of the proven charade of global warming.
And now for some much needed levity in this miasma:
. Comedy Central’s Resident News Clown: For some inexplicable reason, Jon Stewart, nee’ Jon Leibowitz, is accepted by many as a news source when this clown’s news credibility is a few steps beneath that of George Stephanopoulis’.
Stewart recently performed some amazing mental gymnastics on “The Daily Show,” ridiculing the secretive, criminal actions of the warmist scientists at UEA then, without missing a step, he segued into ripping those who termed the mess that is Climategate.
As we all well know, Earth is inexorably becoming a cauldron.
See Stewart’s act here but especially note the comments on Swamppolitics.com which carried the story.
The commenters show far more astuteness, erudition, and sheer common sense than Stewart and handily refute his futile efforts at resorting to a reductio ad absurdum attack on Climategate: http://bit.ly/7iR9sI
Head for them Thar San Fran Hills!: Austrian-born body-builder, actor of sorts, hubby of a Kennedy, governor of the former great State of Caleeforniah, Arnold Swartzernegger, must be watching too many cataclysm flicks.
He began . . .
(Read the rest at http://www.genelalor.com/blog1/?p=1359)
These scientists need to be “Alinskyed”. Select them as targets, ridicule them, mock them, expose the, keep them always on the defensive.
The real bottom line of these “scientists” and the folks at the UN is to give the UN real authority over all of us. Just think a minute. What happens if the UN acquires the authority to levy a tax on the “developed” nations to force them to redistribute wealth to the “under developed” nations? Your sovereignty and mine go straight to hell. Your liberties and mine become worthless when some invisible bureaucrat in New York or Geneva can tax your income to support Hugo Chavez or Hamas or some other group of terrorists.
Let’s get this straight. The progressive/liberal fascists still want world power. They truly believe that they know what is best for the masses…because it is what is best for the liberal fascist elite, i.e., Al Gore, Hansen, et al. Follow the money, protect your liberty, stop this power grab.
Trolls?
Just another breadcrumb to lead us to what is looking like one of the biggest corruptions in science/government in my lifetime (I’m even counting Watergate).
Because the media is not doing it’s job, I’ve spent the last week compiling really good links (articles, video, etc) into one area, which I am using – night and day – to un-brainwash Green-goners (if that’s possible) via Twitter and Youtube. I feel like I’m living in Orwell’s 1984. How in the world have we, who want to have science open and debatable, become the “flat-earthers”, as Gordon Brown called us – while they who shout “Debate is closed!” are supposed to be on the right side of science. Orwell might have written that.
Anyway, feel free to use the links I’ve put together to inform people. Please pay special attention to this link about Gore & Enron:
http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fpcomment/archive/2009/05/30/lawrence-solomon-enron-s-other-secret.aspx
Here’s my page with more links:
http://www.stumbleupon.com/stumbler/aprilbaby64/reviews/
But none of you understand. They are saving us from ourselves. They are saving the planet. If we sit here and merrily burn our fossil fuels, we will quickly reach the tipping point and the World will be destroyed. Even Bruce WIllis will be unable to save us. Even if the peer review process is broken or the chance that all the AGW alarmist are wrong…well the stakes are just too high.
The funny thing is:
If you read their writings, the global warmenists even tell how pitiful their “science” is:
FRUIT OF THE POISON TREE, TARTS FROM THE POISON FRUIT
http://naturalfake.wordpress.com/2009/12/03/fruit-of-the-poison-tree-tarts-from-the-poison-fruit/
“…the “small group of scientists” who are now suspected of scientific fraud..”
with the intent to commit financial fraud, whether it be as pedestrian as obtaining grant money or transferring trillions of dollars from western taxpayers to socialist carpetbaggers.
rrbs;
But the “precautionary” argument is dead from the get-go, because the total “mitigation” possible is so tiny that it’s far smaller than the “error bar” admitted for 1-century projections (in truth, even for 1-year projections, since the real non-linear physics equations are un-solvable). Which means it’s too small to measure. Even with drastic reductions to 18th Century carbon-emission standards.
Of course, the entire CO2-forcing-driver argument is BS to begin with, so it actually isn’t relevant to worry about stakes in the first place.
Some day we may know who the hacker/whistleblower is, but for now we can just say he has saved the free world, surpassing even dear old Winston C.
It seems to me that all we need is ONE newsmagazine or newspaper of international scope to begin acting like a real news organ for this house of cards to collapse. If one news organ started asking the questions that one sees in the blogosphere, this AGW charade could not continue. It is frankly amazing to me that ALL the so-called legacy media are marching lock-step in this new age religion. Is there no columnist out there who will break the mould? F
Read “Cosmic rays create clouds” on http://www.analysis-knowledge.com/msgTeaching.htm.
Sunspots, or their lack, affect climate.
Google the RECENT articles on “ozone hole”, and “fluorocarbons.” You’ll see the model now being used to foist AGW upon the masses. Good science corrupted for political reasons at huge economic cost.
Fluorocarbon reductions “repaired” the Arctic ozone hole, but HAD A NEGATIVE EFFECT ON CLIMATE. This is known as unintended consequences. The effects of CO2 reduction are even more complex.
Masses, beware of liberals wearing sheep’s clothing! Trust Marxists even less!
This is what we will now call Gore/Obama science. Its much like Lyscencoism, but more expensive.
Climategate: Brought to you by the same sort of fools who dreamed up eugenics.
Seems to be a connection between godlessness and genocidal tendencies. hmmmmmmmmmm
Climategate: Brought to you by the same sort of fools who dreamed up eugenics.
Seems to be a connection between godlessness and genocidal tendencies. hmmmmmmmmmm
It is so obvious we are at the mercy of a huge/powerful conspiratorial cabal. The unsolvable islamic problem must really tick them off. Then there’s the Chinese. But then, the Chinese have been checked by our debt and their greed.
I would suppose the cabal originally formed up around the idea of One World Government etc but this is now obviously impossible. I think the new goal is drastically reducing world population. They’ll worry about OWG later. So stand by for conflagration. Try and convince your sons not to go into the military.
“…the “small group of scientists” who are now suspected of scientific fraud..”
with the intent to commit financial fraud, whether it be obtaining research grants or transferring trillions of dollars from western taxpayers to first, second and third-world socialist carpetbaggers.
Was that it? That was the entire hearing? Holdren spoke and everyone moved on?
You know, I really thought Lord Mockton and others sounded a little “out there” and into wacky conspiracies (NWO) and those who speak of eugenics.
But please look at this AP story from the other day. It’s just another alarmist propaganda piece to boost the importance of the Copenhagen meeting – BUT – It gets real interesting starting with the paragraph that begins with “President Barack Obama” (about 1/2 way or more into the piece). And then past that about the World Bank and (creepiest of all), is the comment from an English scientist that there should be a “triage system” to decide what living things can be saved and which are to go (or something like that). What the Hell?!
This is an AP story!! One that’s supposed to make these Copenhagen fools look like they’re doing good work.
Here’s the AP piece:
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hfS3PCKHhVj8ZKGA2nHRL8y7ko1gD9CCJM100
Sedition in response to illegal tyranny is not a crime.
Just a warning:
I just got hit by an attempted drive-by fake virus scanner when navigating to the second page of your article. I’m not sure which of your ad servers did it, but it managed to do a redirect and a resize of my window, with one of those handy javascript alert boxes to try and scare me. Had to kill the IE process to make sure, but you might want to check with the ads being delivered so that you don’t infect your viewers thanks to malicious third parties.
Odd, my computer froze up on the 2nd page, and only had 2 windows open (meaning memory was not an issue).
Why do all the global warming alarmists rely upon “computer models” and why do the doubters rely upon actual climate measurements?
So Holdren is using the Dan Rather defense…”Fake but accurate!”
Biggest fraud of modern times. The thing to remember is all the scientists in the world can push this but do nothing about it if not given political power. We are already seeing politicians resign (Australia) and countries refuse to sign onerous treaties harmful to their economies and growth (India). A few key politicans resigning and a few governments falling due to this hoax and fraud and the entire house of cards comes down. These politicians (except for unaccountable U.N. and EU corruptocrats) are answerable to US THE VOTERS. We have to hold them accountable and keep the pressure ON. We cannot let up.
Holdren is a liar and not worthy of the Ph.D that follows his name. Science is utterly corrupt to allow this fraud his degree. Spread the word.
Minor point, must’ve fallen asleep, but text on the net seems to have new pluralisation rules all its own. Since when is the plural of something which ends in the suffix ‘ist’, i.e. propagandist, communist, terrorist, unchanged in the plural? Post 16 “Because of these elitist propagandist”
When did it stop being “ists”? Those ‘pluralist’ are everywhere these days.
Joe, bugs me, too. That, and inappropriate apostrophes. They are ubiquitous. Our educational system at work.
Spinoneone, the US cant give up its sovereignty without amending the Constitution. Any “treaty” or “international law” Obama brings back with him is simply null and void. Even if the “progressives” in Congress wanted to impose them, it would never get to that point. You think they’re going to get voted out in 2010, wait till they propose to place US citizens under rulers we had no hand in electing or appointing and laws we had no hand in making. No Congressperson would dare vote for it, even Bernie Saunders.
It might be fun for Obama to make noises in that direction though, his approval rating would drop even more and it would widen the split that’s already developing between him and Congress.
My ancestors, the Cherokee, passed down a deep love and respect for the earth. They also gave me a natural skepticism toward anything that seems too good or too bad to be true. My old college geology book said the earth has been warming since the last Ice Age, with seas rising 1/4″/year. Sure, we have global warming, as I remember, it’s been going on for 18000 years, more or less? However, my natural reaction to fearmongering is always, “Show me your proof.”
The radical left-wing scientists who foisted the fear of man-made warming have skewed our priorities. For example, we are being forced to use mercury-containing light bulbs to ‘save the planet’ from warming. We know we need to reduce all pollution, but science’s role has to be limited to facts and truth.
We must demand of our elected representatives a full, impartial investigation into NASA and NOAA ‘science methods’, and open records. The truth must be spread; without mainstream media to help, it will be more difficult, but I believe we owe the earth that much.
One other thing my ancestors taught me was the ‘Truth always surfaces, sooner or later’.
If indeed, so-called “greenhouse gases” contribute to the warming of planet Earth, even more so than Carbon Dioxide and Methane, Dihydrogen Monoxide is to blame. Yes, its a monoxide. Just like Carbon Monoxide, and we all know how dangerous that is! So put on your thinking cap, gentle reader, and join the chorus to ban Dihydrogen Monoxide!!!
Canadian Issues:
$10 Billion Dollars & more per Year For a Fraud?
Canadians are interested in results of what is going on about Climategate in Canada! As it has to do with our lives,lifestyle whether or not we are going to be living in a Democracy or under a Dictatorship?
Jim prentice has stated & PM Harper advocates this as well otherwise Prentice wouldn’t be uttering it”Canada will be paying it’s fair share of Carbon Emmissions! To the tune of $10 Billion per year!” Really, we are already $70 Billion in debt thanks to Michael Ignatieff & the Liberals who up’ed the anti to the Canadian debt load on stimulus!
This begs the question where Jim Prentice plans to dig the $10 Billion per year out of? Did somebody say more Tax?
What is so disheartening about that is the fact that now it’s been found that the whole Climate Emission scam has been proven to be Fraudulent as credible Scientests around the world who were previously locked out of putting their work and findings forth by Jones of East Anglia University and the CRU,were pushed out of the picture with thier observations and experiment results on Climate Change found that not only is the earth not heating up in reality it has been cooling since the 1960’s!
How much more fraudulent can this Scientific Data be? The United Nations and the Globalists are using this false Data at Copenhagen, to transfer our wealth to third world countries? Yet Environment Minister Jim Prentice and Prime Minister Stephen Harper feel so generous with Canadian Tax payer dollars that they are willing to toss in $10 Billion per year on the “hot air” that Ban Kai Moon and Pompus PM Gordon Brown and the rest of the Criminal Rogues that are involved in this bogus Carbon Emission Treaty! As the Bible says,”A Fool and his money are soon parted”! To request that PM Harper doesn’t sign the Copenhagen Treaty, causing Canadians to lose their Sovereignty and Freedom email the PM at: pm@pm.gc.ca,Protest Copenhagen Treaty http://www.gopetition.com/online/32485.html
There are four reasons the UN and IMF, Global Elitist Members Re: Ban Kai Moon ( Who has openly expressed his stong desire for Global Governance ), PM Gordon Brown, Bilderberg Member Henry Kissinger, Senior Bilderberg Member David Rockefeller as well as an unprecedented number of Dictators that run various countries who are members of the United Nations this Copenhagen Treaty that was designed to acquire four goals, the least of them being climate improvment or protection as Lord Moncton has stated!
(1.) To de-industrialize Sovereign Countries ( No Jobs keep you dependant on State ) ( 2.) Take your money and assets – Hence, Fraudulent Carbon Emmissions and Carbon Gases for Carbon Credits and Carbon Taxes! (3.) Take away your property (4.) Take away your Sovereignty and Freedom!
Check out what Government is doing behind your back at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VebOTc-7shU
I want to pause here and talk about this notion of consensus, and the rise of what has been called consensus science. I regard consensus science as an extremely pernicious development that ought to be stopped cold in its tracks. Historically, the claim of consensus has been the first refuge of scoundrels; it is a way to avoid debate by claiming that the matter is already settled. Whenever you hear the consensus of scientists agrees on something or other, reach for your wallet, because you’re being had.
“..Let’s be clear: the work of science has nothing whatever to do with consensus. Consensus is the business of politics. Science, on the contrary, requires only one investigator who happens to be right, which means that he or she has results that are verifiable by reference to the real world. In science consensus is irrelevant. What is relevant is reproducible results. The greatest scientists in history are great precisely because they broke with the consensus.
There is no such thing as consensus science. If it’s consensus, it isn’t science. If it’s science, it isn’t consensus. Period. ..” -Michael Crichton
#12 You have summed up what is wrong with the USA right now completely!
Vote all the Liberals out in 2010!
“such controversies were not unusual in all branches of science”
“a very strong scientific consensus on global warming will remain”
Jct: That explains why Obama is so incompetent. His science adviser Dr. John P. Holdren is a complete incompetent. I have a real science degree and fudging evidence, attacking skeptics, suppressing contrary evidence, may be Dr. John P. Holdren usual modus operandi but it sure isn’t any real scientist’s. I wonder what kind of a trash doctorate he has from what trash university?
Anon (15)
Weapons science (nuclear, and non-nuclear) is alive, and it is normally in conjunction with the scientific method, testing, hydrodynamics, computer simulation, quantum mechanics, special – and general relativity, the uncertainty principle, and in the future, if needed, with quantum fluctuations, as well.
That is the case as a rule, but I recall the rigged tests and simulations the Air Force trotted out to prove that the A-10 was both incapable of doing the job it was intended for and not a weapon that improved the Air Force ability to support Army ground forces. Fortunately, the Army and several Congressmen had studies of their own done by impartial groups. They then proceeded to prove exactly how the Air Force had rigged the studies.
So, nothing stays strictly scientific and free of games unless there is sufficient open contention in the field to force the scientific method.
Regards
The Warmists have never explained how, and why, humanity survived when, in Leif Errickson’s day, they were able to grow grapes in Greenland. The receding glaciers are showing the remnants of vineyards.
Seems that not only did we survive global warming but the Vikings ate grapes and drank wine! The Warmists can then tell me about all the carbon that the, um, what exactly, caused that warming trend. And, what caused the little ice age that followed? The climate has been changing throughout history, it will continue to change. Since humanity survives on this planet from the tropics to the arctic I have great faith that whatever the climate does, we will survive.
#12. It’s Chicago-On-The-Potomac.
Here are two really interesting links about how much bigger the fraud is than is even being reported on non-liberal web sites and blogs (i.e., bigger than just the e-mails that expose their phony “peer review” process and blackballing of skeptical dissenters. The first one primarily focuses on tree ring analysis of temperature variation over the past 1000 years and how the “fakesters” cherry picked the 1 out of the several hundred tree sources from Siberia that seemed to support their “Hockey Stick” gimmick (only one outlier supported their fakery so they picked it and refused to disclose the raw data probably knowing it would show what a bunch of frauds they were). The second one talks about how the “fakesters” tried to hide the Medieval Warming Period (MWP) since it is believed (and supported by data) that the temperatures in the MWP exceeded notably any of the recent faked high temperatures (i.e., faked by using temperature measuring devices located close to man made artificial heat sources like exhaust vents or concrete / asphalt surfaces, etc.. Discounting the MWP by starting their analysis at 1000 AD (instead of earlier) allowed them show some incline in temperature via clever averaging. This method makes it look like temperatures were always low and then increased in the recent past century due to evil capitalist destruction of the earth.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/6738111/Climategate-reveals-the-most-influential-tree-in-the-world.html
and
http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/12/understanding_climategates_hid.html
Also, how tree rings from the past 20 years seem to show a definite decline in temperature instead of the inclide as depicted in the faked “Hockey Stick”. Thus, these esteemed professionals used tree rings data when it supported their “theory” but then easily discarded it when it refuted their “theory”.
I know we’re too late since 2500 scientists overwhelmingly concur that their faked science is settled. So we should give up and start sending our paychecks to the socialist parasite leaders at the UN.
I do not pretend to understand the complexities of climate science, but CO2 doesn’t seem half as bad as Mercury and other heavy metals, sulpher dioxide, methane or any number of other industrial waste humans dump into the environment every day. It is, however, disturbing that the carbon trading agenda is supported by experts who fudged data in their own studies in order to support a preconceived bias.
This is the essence of bad science and would not be the first time that political pressure was used to warp conclusions of published studies.
Perhaps the anthropogenic theory attempting to explain climate change is a cover story meant to curtail fossil fuel use at a time of world net energy depletion. Admitting to an inevitable decline in affordable and available energy would destroy capital markets dependent on unending growth.
The fact remains that every year, existing oil fields are in steady production decline in the range of 6-8%. Only a fraction of that loss is expected to be brought on line from new projects in any given year. Total BTU’s available to do the work of industrialized nations is in decline.
It matters not how much oil is in the ground, under the sea or bound to shale and sand. It only matters that the oil glutton that is modern industrialized society needs to be fed and China and India are getting more demanding every day. Exponentially so.
Lookup former NAS Chair Dr Gerald North (Tx AMU); once he realized he was SWORN under oath, he supported the Wegman report that totally wrecked the “Hockey Stick” report assumption by Mann. Had no facts to support Mann, but he knew the conclusion was proper, what a pant load!
outstanding in the cornfield
Beyond biofeedback
What about the scientist on the grassy knoll?
JOHN HOLDREN, CHIEF SCIENCE ADVISOR TO OBAMA: HERE HE IS BACK IN 1975 ‘putting the “con” back in “con”ference: @ THE REHEARSAL FOR NOPENHAGENDAZZ
http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.com/Articles%202007/GWHoaxBorn.pdf
SPECIAL REPORT
1975 ‘Endangered Atmosphere’ Conference
Where the Global Warming Hoax Was Born
by Marjorie Mazel Hecht
“Global Warming” is, and always was, a policy for genocidal reduction of the world’s population. The preposterous claim that human-produced carbon dioxide will broil the Earth, melt the ice caps, and destroy human life, came out of a 1975 conference in Research Triangle Park, North Carolina, organized by the influential anthropologist Margaret Mead, president of the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS), in 1974.
Is this not a crime against humanity….?
where and when are the posters going to be ready, as justice for this act….