Climategate: Have They No Shame?
It is clear that the tip-top scientists implicated in the burgeoning Climategate scandal have no honor, but it is also becoming apparent that they have no sense of shame either. Their strategy is to brazen it out and rely on the great global warming alarmist establishment and the mainstream media to circle the wagons. They have got their talking point and the environmental pressure groups are already repeating it over and over: “The ‘global warming deniers’ are cherry-picking a few unfortunately worded emails and then taking them out of context.” Well, they are some pretty big, juicy cherries and there are a lots of them.
But it isn’t going to work. There is simply too much evidence that “the world’s leading climate scientists” (as they are always described — at least up until a few days ago) at the University of East Anglia’s Climatic Research Unit were cooking the data. For those not up on technical scientific terms, “cooking the data” means manipulating and falsifying it. Here are just two examples from one of the approximately 3000 files that were released — either by a hacker or (more likely in my view) a public-spirited whistleblower at the CRU who just couldn’t stand the fraud any more. These two examples are from the “Harry Read Me” file (which can be found here) and are apparently the ongoing notes of someone charged with trying to fix the problems in one of the CRU’s temperature datasets. The first email:
What the hell is supposed to happen here? Oh yeah – there is no )’supposed’, I can make it up. So I have … So with a somewhat cynical shrug, I added the nuclear option – to match every WMO possible, and turn the rest into new stations (er, CLIMAT excepted). In other words, what CRU usually do. It will allow bad databases to pass unnoticed, and good databases to become bad, but I really don’t think people care enough to fix ‘em, and it’s the main reason the project is nearly a year late.
The second email:
OH FU*K THIS. It’s Sunday evening, I’ve worked all weekend, and just when I thought it was done I’m
hitting yet another problem that’s based on the hopeless state of our databases. There is no uniform
data integrity, it’s just a catalogue of issues that continues to grow as they’re found.
I haven’t found any evidence that anyone in authority at the CRU, such as its director, Professor Phil Jones, cared that the datasets were in a hopeless state. Every year, CRU, in cooperation with the UK Meteorological Office’s Hadley Centre, publishes the global mean temperature for the past year. Hadley/CRU is widely considered to be the most authoritative record of the world’s temperature history and is widely cited in the press. Yet I don’t remember and can’t find any comment by Professor Jones that it is anything less than what it’s been cracked up to be or that there are just a few tiny little problems. It’s now clear why he resisted repeated requests by other scientists to share the raw data and the methodologies used — he would be exposed as a fraud. Releasing raw data and methodologies is standard operating procedure in most fields of scientific research, but not for these tip-top climate scientists, whose motto is: “You can trust us!” When Jones was finally cornered by a Freedom of Information request earlier this year, he said that the data had been lost. Pat Michaels has the whole story here.
Have they no shame?






It seems that they are so used to the charade, there is nothing that can shame them. What a tragic way to live a life!
who on the left has any concept of shame anymore? they purged themselves of that useless emotion some years ago.
The scientists are absolutely shameless:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IG5oi1FGf_I
But what else is new? Corruption is as old as mankind.
“Their strategy is to brazen it out”
That may have worked even five years ago. There are presently too many alternate media sources that are daily growing by leaps and bounds. The MSM will have to eventually capitulate. It should not take more than another few weeks. Only blue state denizens prefer to remain ignorant. The purple and red state folks want to know the truth. These are the ones who no longer trust the MSM. They are also the ones who ultimately choose the next president because of their domination of the Electoral College.
Why would they have any shame when the “right” people stand to make millions off the rest of us. Remember the first rule of politics? Follow the money.
Trofim Lysenko and the engineers of the Great Leap Forward never received the prosecution they deserved, much less the discrediting. To this day, Chinese speak of “The Three Years of Natural Disasters” that caused mass starvation. I fear civilization will soon perform the same sort of courtesy for these deadly, dishonest dealers.
Why don’t you arm yourself with some facts on climate change fundamentals.
From NASA’s Marshall Space Flight Center:
http://solarscience.msfc.nasa.gov/SunspotCycle.shtml
http://solarscience.msfc.nasa.gov/images/ssn_predict_l.gif
http://solarscience.msfc.nasa.gov/images/Zurich_Color.pdf
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2009/01apr_deepsolarminimum.htm
http://solarscience.msfc.nasa.gov/
Other sources:
http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/ice_ages.html as a great primer.
http://www.leif.org/research/ a treasure trove once you understand the basics.
And this is just funny!
http://anhonestclimatedebate.wordpress.com/predictions/
“Have they no shame?”
Shame is something one can only expect from persons with a sense of absolute moral constraints — i.e., a classical sense of right and wrong unmodified by modern “moral relativism.” Such persons would never have conducted themselves as the CRU emailers did in the first place. Their behavior makes it plain that they’re activists, rather than scientists. Genuine scientists would have realized that their undertaking was inherently fraudulent from the start.
For years I’ve been baffled by the practices in climate science. Many leading economics journals require as a condition of publication that authors provide their data set. Why not demand transparency as a matter of course?
Don’t expect the politicians or the media to do anything. The legal system will have to do the heavy lifting.
We the people have the power. File lawsuits in every court available against Al Gore and the corrupt scientists. We will have standing. We can even file in local small claims court. Each and every one of us has been damaged. Claim those damages and seek a remedy.
I understand that Conservatives knee jerkedly reject litigation but providing a remedy for this sort of wrong is exactly the purpose of the Courts and Tort law.
Instead of having a “Tea Party” have a “Legal Rights” party with some sympathetic to the cause lawyers.
The attached American Thinker article examines how they hacked in fixes to FORTRAN spaghetti code to adjust the processing of the data to get the result they were looking for.
This entire case is the most egregious example of fraud involving science and analysis groups that has ever been perpetrated.
We may be witnessing the beginning of the death of science for the sake of liberal dogma that is as reasonable and inclusive as Islamic thinking. This may be the reversal in the evolution of scientific thought that originated during the Renaissance.
Even more shameful than the dishonest science are the liberal media, interest groups, and politicians defending it.
Connect the dots.
This is how the far left operates. Its supporters. Its scientists. It’s strategists. It’s administrators. It’s lawyers. Its Czars. Its volunteers.
It’s SOP.
Confuse. Refute. Lie. Lose. (Hillary’s billing records) Steal. (sandy berger from the national archive). Fabricate (Dan Rather in attempt to swing an election). Hide. Misplace. Doctor. Throw away and destroy.
Face facts.
If any of Obama’s college or law school papers, birth certificate, etc., emails regarding Sotomayor, Sgt Crowley were uncovered;
If the details of the debacle regarding treating terrorists like American citizens with respect to their right of due process saw the light of day; If healthcare fudging of facts; crooked banking takeovers and payoffs, corrupt stimulus money transfers; if any of these papers and files were liberated from captivity, it would be the same story.
The same huge picture of deceit, ethical lapses and criminal conspiracies embedded in virtually every major research substantiation of global warming would be found in every crevice of the White House hard drives, handwritten memos, phone conversations etc., etc., etc. It is beyond a reasonable doubt that the truth is being hidden by a neck deep dirty Obama administration. Uncovering these miscreants and their lies is the one sure way to remove Obama before he kills the America we knew, love; that almost 2 million brave Americans have died for.
Literally and figuratively, America, the American spirit and way of life has been sullied by eleven Obaminable months of falsifying and deceit to kill free enterprise, steal healthcare and generally crush every value that our forefathers believed in and that the constitution is designed to protect. Touchstones of individual liberty and freedom and voting rights (Dropping of Black Panther voter intimidation open and shut case) are being attacked every waking hour of every day. Thankfully, if polls are telling the truth, the more Americans are informed of our governments immorality, the more Americans are enraged.
Can I find a better way to express it?
If this isn’t an American President who deserves to be led out of the White House in handcuffs, then every piece of climate change research conducted in the last year is true and real as a mother’s love.
Of course they have no shame. Up to now they have, in fact, shared a high level of self-congratulation, shared pride in the success of their audacious hoax. Just as Axwlrod & Co. are euphoric about the success of their scam to power.
What is astounding is not the silence of the NYT and TV networks, but of scientists from all fields of the hard sciences, and particularly of their publications. The essence of science is peer review; the hypothesis must permit replication – to which end the raw data and methodology must be provided by the propnent. Failure to release that information makes it unacceptable. Unequivocally. With no exception. If it cannot or refuses to meet that standard it MUST BE REJECTED.
The approval of the conclusion by the broad body of “social scientists” and philosophers and economists and political strategists does not validate an tunreplicable postulation
What is shameful is that it has taken a “leak” to reveal the “unspeakable truth” of the political corruption behind AGW rather than a great hue and cry from the scientific community.
AGW = King’s new clothes
How long will politicians and journalists take to admit that the King does not wear clothes?
“If it cannot or refuses to meet that standard it MUST BE REJECTED.”
“What is shameful is that it has taken a “leak” to reveal the “unspeakable truth” of the political corruption behind AGW rather than a great hue and cry from the scientific community.”
Above statements are true enough but, the statement has to be made, SO WHAT???
Does anyone honestly expect ANYTHING to come from the release of this supposed “evidence” of the “cooked” evidence of Global Warming? We’re kidding ourselves if we actually believe this.
Don’t expect Al Gore to show up on the evening news proclaiming to the world, “sorry, I was wrong”. Don’t expect the world leaders to announce tomorrow, “sorry, we were out of order and, because of this corruption, the Copenhagen meeting will be dismissed.” These things WILL NOT HAPPEN!
Global Warming is even being taught in our Elementary schools and students are being told they MUST do their part. Again, at the risk of being rhetorical, do we really and honestly expect all this to end???
I fear, it’ll only get worse. UNLESS! People actually do something. But, here again, do what?
No, I’m afraid, this Global Warming issue will still go on, meetings and treaties will still be signed, our taxes will go up to pay for all this, and the elitist of this movement will still be making their fortunes. As a profession, I drive an 18 wheeler. I’ve seen, too many times, when my truck and trailer gets up to speed, it takes an almost impossible set of circumstances to stop this moving nightmare. Same thing with Global Warming. It CAN NOT be stopped. Nice to think it could but, sorry, I don’t see it happening.
Sorry to sound so “down and out” but, truth sometimes hurts.
Where IS the mainstream media?
Are they SO in the tank that they can’t/won’t report this? Apparently so. Is their position ideological or are they being paid off?
How DARE they not report this scandal?
NBC has a stake in the Global Warming propaganda; therefore, they will not report any of this. They will play Obama’s defense since GE is in collusion with the White House. They stand to make millions off Cap & Trade…
The true scandal remains unmentioned: The scientists are worse than frauds, they are sell-out monsters intent on assisting genocide. Google Agenda 21 and Georgia Guidestones.
you need to prioritized the job to how to made climate change and why this need to done and what benefit we can get and like olympic gathering cost we can use some cost to link and benefit people
conservative way to used past expreince and used progressive way to do change for good to benefit all people and liberal way to people hear and talk with freedom of right not force by big over poor
do not talk only but think if you can not think for better solution hired gifted people to do the job for you:
climat change need to see all world
land- desert- sees- ocean and mountain and all
air and climate
as big picture that link together
such as grow treest in empty mountain in Afganstan
built trees and man made lake in desert
made agriculture in apartment building in china
using all resouces to made job for all
feed the word manage waste and link ocean with train and areoplan and with station in air and
using scientist to help you and do research to this areas
if we can change world land to use and feed the poor and make rich more richer and poor stop hunger
then win win for both developing and 3 world counties like china and india and arab countries and stop war in Palstin and Israel and let them work not fight any more
busy people to do work or used brain to have fun not do war
read this comment:
http://uoftconservatives.blogspot.com/2009/04/dalton-sales-tax.html#comments
said comments on Nov 26, 2009
No truth, no facts, and no shame. The Climategate scientists are without moral compass, and definitely don’t have the scientific evidence to back up their hyped claims. This web page has a bunch of charts that uses the straight, actual data – no fraud & no manipulation, guaranteed. Just the facts, ma’am.
http://www.c3headlines.com/chartsimagespdfs/
Al Gore claims again, recently, that the the UK Court vindicated his claims made in the Inconvenient Truth (truth is actually the opposite), to wild antic fixed-grin applause from the lecture hall full of ‘scientists,’ who paid for entry to the lecture … and hope for entre’ to the gravytrain?
http://planetgore.nationalreview.com/post/?q=YTY2MzgyZmZiZTY4MzMwZDViN2RlYzQyMWI2MTdmNjA=
Nope: no shame. Brazen it out. “Too Big to Fail?”
“The ‘global warming deniers’ are cherry-picking a few unfortunately worded emails…”
There’s a guy on another thread here that actually parroted that. Between Briffa et al and this set of data, computer code, and emails, the whole house of cards must come down.
As for the Idaho-ho-ho guy, give it up kid. Daily Kos is not a truth forum so stop parroting their baloney here. Thanks for playing. Better luck next time.
“Ebell graduated from Colorado College with a B.A. and obtained an M.Sc. from the London School of Economics. He did some graduate work at the University of California at San Diego and at Peterhouse College, Cambridge University.[1]
It’s funny Myron. I don’t detect anything scientific in your background. You’re quote provider as near as I can tell. That’s the problem with sceptics: Their agenda is blatantly obvious to anyone with a clue. That shouldn’t be a problem around here where the synapses are all turned off.
the gig is up,they won’t be able to hide the truth much longer.hopefully they’ll become the laughing stock they truly are and will lose all the respect they never had.
Why would they have any shame? They’ve gotten away with thirty years of revisionist history, how could they imagine that they wouldn’t get away with the global warming fantasy? Just look at who won the last presidential election and you can clearly see that the folks who are pushing the global warming agenda think they can get the public to believe almost anything. How else could someone with so sparse a record and a corps of attorneys that work constantly to keep everything that might be recorded somewhere from coming out ever be elected president?
Shame? These folks and their supporters threw that away along with morality and honesty a long, long time ago. Once colleges and institutions can get away with falsifying history, there’s no limit on what they’ll want to falsify and believe they can get away with falsifying.
Regards
Climategate
Let’s see:
a) subverting the peer review process
b) stacking the UN IPCC
c) obstruction of the Freedom on Information Act
d) breach of university and state ethics codes
… and we haven’t even talked about the data yet.
Climate Science – the new Ponzi scheme!
p.s. – Is this what Science is all about? Meet the new boss (science), same as the old boss (religion). When are they issuing funny hats to scientists?
You religious zealots keep pointing to the same old “peer reviewed – heh heh heh yeh, I believe it” links that are part of this humongous conspiracy of lies / deceit and expecting the rest of us simpletons to keep believing the garbage. We all know Hanson at NASA is a quack now we have definitive proof that Mann (at PSU) and this CRU group (and even folks in New Zealand) were doing the same crap (and rigged the peer review process which means all the links you point to are tainted and therefore useless). Funny thing about losing all credibility huh? Notice how much more shrill the religious zealots have become in the past several years as they predicted continued global warming and the globe actually cooled (some record cool summers and earlier winters in most parts of the world this past year). Al Gore says we have to act now!!! Remember when they produced the hokey Hollywood movie The Day After Tomorrow (right around the previous election – made the vice president in the movie look like Cheney). Remember how Hurrican Katrina was caused by Global Warming. Remember how they predicted a much more severe Hurricane season the next year (after Katrina) and yet it was one of the most benign ones on record. These are the same clowns who predicted the coming Ice Age in the 1970s (look at the covers on Time and Newsweek back then). Also, the Population Bomb – by Paul Erlich where we’d run out of food and everyone would starve (in the ice age) before 2000. This time, however, the science is “settled” and a global “consensus” exists. Yeah right!
This is the second comments section in two days where I’ve seen commentor Mark York acting like the religious police questioning everyone elses background and right to criticize scientific material. Give it a rest!
These same commie scum had no problem when the Florida NEA senior couple was ILLEGALLY taping cell phone calls between Newt Gingrinch and John Boehner in 1995. Seems ethics is only a concern when the right “violates” them. Oh , by the way, the London Daily Mail is reporting today the BBC had these emails 6 weeks ago and did nothing with them. If the BBC had them, what are the odds other news outlets had them? No wonder they were hacked and put on the net. Apparently that was the ONLY way this story would get out. Once again, with the communist left and there syncophats, ideology trumps everything.
Scientists – vindicated.
Deniers – Looking for other straws to grasp at…