Climategate and the Hamster Effect
Or, since they are not actually hamsters despite the close resemblance and enjoy greater latitude for improvisation, they adopt a go-for-broke strategy, intensifying the climate warming scenario in the assumption that amplifying a lie renders it credible. Thus, to give one example, the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation’s science program Quirks & Quarks warns of rising temperatures, massive flooding, abandoned islands, and hundreds of thousands of refugees if we refuse to support the UN Climate Conference in Copenhagen. The hundreds of millions of fiscal refugees, burdened not with rising temperatures but rising taxes, who would suffer from this species of make-believe are obviously a non-factor.
With a few welcome exceptions, for which we must be grateful, the newspapers and journals are no better. Article after article attempts to downplay the significance of the ophidian facts, emails, memoranda, codes, notes, obiter dicta, graphs, and figures which show that the climate warming doctrine — especially with respect to the human contribution known as anthropogenic global warming — is, at best, merely a hypothesis, and, at worst, an out-and-out fraud. Journalists and science commentators are scuttling madly from one side to the other of the theoretical cage they have built for themselves, saying on the one hand, yes, the stream of emerging details may appear to damage the warming thesis, but on the other hand, no, they are only a minor glitch in the great system of discovery and (presumably authentic) revelation. One should not, we are given to understand, pay too much attention to an ostensible cluster of offhand remarks by a clubby group of playful or impolitic scientists.
Nevertheless, as the fellow travelers, bloviating pundits, and collar-tightened scientists must intuitively realize, the game is up, for thousands of pages of incriminating data cannot be pretended away. And I suspect there is more to come. The viper of bitter truth slides remorselessly forward and will not be deterred by their evasive zigzags and the pitiable squeaks that are meant to pass for sober evaluation and discreet analysis. Ultimately, these are gestures of burrowing reinterpretation on the part of the impotently ensnared, which will not impress the advancing snake. They are in for a mega-bite.
Unless, of course, a miracle should occur, the cage door open, and an indulgent hand reach inside to rescue the hamsters from their plight, ensuring that the snake starves to death while the hamsters frolic in relief and gratitude. This, too, could happen. As we know all too well, there is more than one indulgent hand ready to perform an act of tender, self-interested, and hamster-friendly mercy.
They faked their data. Then they destroyed the raw data. So now the whole argument is about what … certainly not the data, which do not, if fact, exist any longer? We’re arguing about nothing? These guys are neck deep in it and still digging.
I like the hamster metaphor, but there is in fact a solution for the apparently doomed animal. If the keeper failed to remember that the snake is cold blooded, and forgot to turn on the light in the terrarium, then the hamster, which is warm blooded, can persevere by gnawing on the snake until it dies … it never comes out of its topor. So the solution is to keep shining the light on the situation.
I prefer to call them “CLIMATE FRAUDSTERS’ from this day forth.
There is a rather strange weather forecast for southern germany for next weed:
Winter is coming! Starting next friday temperature drop for a week till -14C. I can’t remember this. These temperatures we have end of january, middle february. I don’t know about the temps in copenhagen, but that up north and may be cooler.
How do you explain? Is it just europe …
No, it ain’t just Europe.
California, Texas, Arizona ( to name a few) are all experiencing record cold temperatures and snow.
Has anyone actually read the stolen info….? Thought not. And I do not have a preference either way so I am not biased. Who first said this was a huge scandel. Can they factually sit down and explain why they said that.
Perhaps when we all calm down and actually examine the facts, it may be the thief himself and those who propogate info before reading it who become the hampsters???
Here in central Ohio today, we are expecting freezing temperatures and high winds in the 50 MPH range. (The freezing temps, BTW, are independent of wind chill.) Chicago, IL, is expecting 12″-18″ of snow. (Highly unusual this early in the wintertime- that’s late January-early February weather for the Great Lakes.)
The National Weather Service, NOAA, and the CRU are all insisting that this is going to be a “warm, mild” winter. And that there should be no significant snowfalls in northern Illinois, and temperatures in Ohio should be in the fifties. All their computer models (based on the East Anglia data) say so, and are further proof of anthropogenic global warming. (Shame on you, you grotty humans!)
So obviously, the actual weather must logically not really exist. Because the experts just can’t be wrong, now can they?
Incidentally, the Old Farmer’s Almanac accurately predicted just what’s actually happening in OH and IL now. Of course, they use that highly unscientific method called keeping extensive records of U.S. climatological data going back to the 1830s, comparing similar conditions, and prognosticating that similar conditions will end in similar results. Plus, of course, actually looking at what the weather’s doing right now.
But they don’t use the computer simulations created by the all-knowing sages of AGW- so of course they must be wrong.
Musn’t they?
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OH NO!
Not another leaked document:
It just keeps getting deeper and deeper.
‘THE GORE EFFECT’
” Reinardt Bronkhorst:
Has anyone actually read the stolen info….? Thought not. And I do not have a preference either way so I am not biased. Who first said this was a huge scandel. Can they factually sit down and explain why they said that. ”
Yes, actually, we have. And many have set down and explained why it is a “huge scandel”. Just because YOU haven’t taken the time or exerted the energy to research the subject, doesn’t mean it hasn’t been done.
Remember:
The issue is never the issue.
The issue is control.
They certainly are rattled.
Last week the BBC with it’s usual biased approach of total sympathy for the fraudsters interviewed the main culprit in Norfolk whose name I forget.
He was smug, sneering and doing his best to keep his cool until assailed by fact after fact, at the end the camera just caught him maligning his adversary with the definately unscientific, ‘prick’!
Prick? On the BBC flagship news? Things must be bad.
Oh Reinhardt! That’s hilarious! Thanks for the Hamsterism 101 demonstration!
You have it wrong. we are the hamsters, they are the snakes. Lets review the success stories of the government:
Give us money and we will eradicate poverty.
Result: well paid bureaucrats and more poverty.
Give us money and we will eradicate drugs.
Result: well paid bureaucrats, judges and lawyers and we are awash in drugs and gangs. Criminals now have more rights than citizens.
Give us money and we will control illegal immigration.
Result: More Illegals, More rights for illegals, more benefits for illegals, Less jobs for US citizens and Diversity and sensitivity training for the native born who object. Oh, i forgot: well paid bureaucrats and a host of advocacy, activist and awareness groups getting government grants.
Give us money for homeland security and we will keep you safe.
Result: Trappist Monks being searched before getting on planes, Investigations into right wing organizations, Left wing organizations getting a pass, Establishment of mosques and organizations that call for the destruction of the US. Can anyone say sedition act?
Give us money and we will clean the air and water.
Result: well paid bureaucrats who need to find a continual source of issues to justify their jobs. We have cleaner air and water. we also have lost jobs and increased our costs to placate an ever increasing set of rules and regulations designed to stifle commerce in order to have the sierra club satisfied.
Give us money and we will control the climate.
Yeah, right. we have heard a lot about the models and data pointing to the apocalypse. we have not heard a peep about what the climate will look like if we implement these scams. Oh right, i forgot to mention: well paid bureaucrats and a market system for carbon credits that produces nothing but takes away capital from real productive endeavors.
The track record of the government is lousy in solving anything. Everything they touch turns to S**t.
Reinardt Bronkhorst:
Well ,have you read all the “released” information, if not stick it. You are the denier now.
I’ve waded through most of the released evidence, and spent a few hours reading the pertinent blogs, where experts have done a fantastic job on the data forensics. Just google climategate.
Given the careful filtering/exclusion of everything unrelated to the fraud in the zip file, any sentient being who is not a kapo- or kulak-wannabe, must acknowledge that the information was LEAKED not hacked. IOW, this whistleblower had perfect pitch. And the tune. Oh my, it’s so catchy.
The climate warming/changing scam is a massive fraud that’s already facilitated the biggest theft in history by the “political classes” worldwide. All political parties. Used to call them charlatans – used to be a hanging offense.
Imagine folks, tens of thousand of US lawmakers, bureaucrats, lawyers, NGOs, tax-exempt foundations, scientists and every green enterprise have been colluding in this conspiracy for decades. It’s what RICO was designed to prosecute. Everyone involved knows it’s a scam.
“Green” rationale and the resulting regulaton has caused $trillions in destruction right here in River City:
- Most of the US auto undustry ruined, being forced to build vehicles the buyers don’t want and DON’T NEED
- Inexorably rising CAFE standards
- Most manufacturing forced offshore (gov’t regulation and liability being the deciding factors – not labor cost)
- Increased the cost of building both commercial and residential
- Erected huge gov’t bureaucracies, all tax supported and tasked to envision perfection, so it can be legislated without cost-benefit analysis.
Etc, etc, etc.
And, all this while prohibiting expoitation of US energy resources with a never-ending array of regulations against drilling, mining, refining, construction of nuclear plants, et al, and yet taxing US to subsidize alternatives which have ABSOLUTELY NO CHANCE of satifyfing US energy requirements. The EPA and it’s supporting mindset must be dismantled.
AGW is a scam, and has been since “anthropogenic global cooling” went out of style. It’s all about the graft. If not, why is a high-level official in the Once’s administration just today warning the thieves in Congress to get all their climate and crap and trade stuff passed now, because the folks are catchin on.
You are correct that the actions reveal their desperation. Hard to watch all that grant money sprout wings. The stories and comments that are coming out now to counteract the damage done by the release of CRU emails are so over the top that only those who are already confirmed believers will give them credence. They are losing the middle and the idiocy they are now spewing will only serve to erode the support of those who were willing to believe as long as they could reasonably trust the science. But comments like those just made by Gore and the supposed fact that this decade is going to be the warmest on record are so overwrought and so contrary to the evidence (the climate has been demonstrably cooling since 1998;)they sound like a 4 year-old caught with his hand in the cookie jar. Or worse Jon Lovitz doing Tommy Flannagan!
David, you seem to be very angry about the possibility that AGW is a fraud. Good. Here are a group of chemists who agree with you:
http://www.climatedepot.com/a/2213/Climate-Revolt-Worlds-Largest-Science-Group-Startled-By-Outpouring-of-Scientists-Rejecting-ManMade-Climate-Fears-Clamor-for-Editor-to-Be-Removed
I got a kick out of your post, Reinardt B. You want us to be cautious, and you say you are unbiased. Do you also tell the true believers to be cautious? I bet not. Because they are the ones who have been the least cautious.
Anyway, even if ClimateGate isn’t what we skeptics think it is, that doesn’t put us in the position of the hamster. After all, the fact that there has been no warming for the last decade already shows that the climate scientists were wrong. What ClimateGate shows, if it is valid, is that the scientists were not merely wrong but that they were lying to us. So even if ClimateGate proves to be nothing, we skeptics would still have solid grounds for skepticism.
By the way, here is an excellent article on ClimateGate:
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000%5C000%5C017%5C300ubchn.asp
Reinardt Bronkhorst @ #5: Others have read the e-mails, and they are bad, but perhaps they may be rationalized away. What is really thermonuclear is the code. It shows out and out distortion of the data going in, so that what came out fit the fraudsters’ preconceived notion of reality. That’s what “Hide the Decline” was about. The tree ring proxies forecast declining temperatures after the 1960s, but temperatures were rising. So they cut off the proxy and used the actual temperature to make it appear that tree ring proxy was forecasting properly. But if their tree ring proxy is inaccurate for the recent past, then it should be inaccurate everywhere, and in particular in the medieval warm period which they have tried to bury. I suggest you read some of the other comments on PJM to get a flavor of what I am talking about here.
The ignorance reflected here is absolutely breathtaking. None, here, (yet) either provides any evidence of their scientific sophistication, or any evidence of having read the East Anglia material (apropos of #5). If, and when you do, you will finally understand why the views being presented here represent nothing but blather, and that the relevant scientific community is treating your views as such. Regarding your ignorance about science, you might truly benefit from listening to the fascinating Quirks and Quarks radio show on CBC radio, rather than waste your time on the type of article that is so common to this blog, the article above being a prime example.
Albert@18,
You’re outed. You are a co-conspirator. It’s obvious you wish to somehow profit from this on-going criminal enterprise. Intellectually, you fit perfectly the mold for kapo-in-waitng.
Hey, how ’bout that gigantic winter storm w/ lots of snow, ice and cold temperatures blwoing through the United States right… that HAS to be a sign of global warming, right? Just an abberation due to climate instability, right? How ’bout Gore’s big global warming shindig in Washington getting snowed-out, just a bizarre coincidence? How come these same climate scientists were screaming about the “coming ice age” thirty years ago? Hide the decline, we must be politically correct because the left/liberals will give us more money!
“Poor benighted creatures, but for all our empathetic concern we can at least take comfort in the fact that we are not in their place.” ============= Take comfort? I take DELIGHT!!!!!
I find the analogy of a trapped hamster to be rather inappropraite – after all, the hampster is rather innocent of any wrongdoing – being sacrificed for the pleasure of the snake.
A more appropraite analogy would be a rabid dog, after biting a bystander, having been cornered, now snapping furiously at anything that approaches.
Albert@18,
If you still have an open mind, you might want to read this:
http://www.copenhagenclimatechallenge.org/
Please tell me these aren’t real scientists by your definition.
I too, liked the hamster & snake story and when I came to this line “they adopt a go-for-broke strategy, intensifying the climate warming scenario in the assumption that amplifying a lie renders it credible” I was reminded of a friend who many years ago kept a boa that he raised to over 12′ long. After it got to be maybe 8 or 9 feet he was feeding it guinea pigs, one every few weeks or so as I remember. One time he dropped in dinner a little too early and Mr. Snake just wasn’t hungry yet. The rodent went through the motions for a while and finally decided the snake wasn’t all he was cracked up to be. He nosed around the cage, nibbled on bits of litter, ignored the snake. Finally his curiosity (or stupidity) got the best of him and he sniffed the snake. Then nudged it with his nose. Then again, a little harder. This went on for a while and then he was grabbed. And held. And squeezed. Occasionally there was a little squeak. This went on for maybe an hour before he was finally released, dead, and never eaten. In the years that the snake was being fed, this had never happened before or after. Rodent goes in. Snake uncoils. Strike/bite. Constrict. Eat. No nonsense. It served to illustrate that this was a thinking reptile and supports the old saying “Don’t Tread On Me”. These AWG fraudsters just don’t know what they’re dealing with.
8:Randy
Thanks for responding to that post…I went to the realclimate website directly and actually pulled much of the information through links there (which surprised me).
Bronkhorst assumes and we all know what that stands for.
It’s probably not too late to file a patent describing a new method of propulsion for your automobile: Remove the engine and replace it with a squirrel cage big enough to accommodate a planet fever advocate, so he can spin the cage by playing hamster in it. You can expect one mile per carrot, or one mile per celery stem if you absolutely must be totally green about it.
Anyway, I’m probably jumping the gun right now, but pretty soon it will be politically correct to poke fun at the planet fever alarmists. They are already cagey!
Reinardt Bronkhorst:
“Has anyone actually read the stolen info….? Thought not. And I do not have a preference either way so I am not biased.”
Yes, the data is being gone over now. It takes a while, which is why this story won’t go away. The Models are being looked at also. That is where the evidence of fraud lies. I expect indictments within 2 years. By the 2012 election, for sure.
As far as you not having any bias, I don’t believe you.
The E-mails are evidence of a conspiracy. A conspiracy to advance an agenda by hiding evidence and blackballing those that were in disagreement with that agenda. All that is needed for a criminal case is the conspirators profiting from their fraud. The models will PROVE that those conspirators went beyond just talking and took action to defraud people. Nothing here that Madoff didn’t do. Or the great UN OIL for Food scam.
Hopefully the UN will be damaged by all this. The USA created the UN as a tool to fight Imperialism on the part of our European “allies” and our Soviet “enemy”. It sort of worked, in that it kept both our allies and our enemies in a box (with no snake, unfortunately). However the UN now has delusions of grandeur. The UN thinks it will become the lord and master of all the world.
Two (2) things stand in the way of that. The UN has no money and no power (military, the hard kind). It does no good to rule the world when the world just laughs at your rules. Men plan, fate giggles.
So the UN sees gaining a source of income besides the USA as it’s #1 priority. So it is busy trying to steal every farthing it can get it’s greedy little mitts on. That is the politic driving AGW. It is also the politic behind LOST and Cap and Trade. The UN also wants a tax on the internet (WWW) and on passengers flying from one nation to another. Ships at sea, etc.
So AGW, like LOST, will die in the Senate. The Senate understands that the UN wants to reduce their power. Senators are not keen on that.
It is not possible to make any sort of international agreement without the USA. One of the upsides of being the only Superpower. We didn’t get to be the Superpower by accident. We will not sit there and smile while the 3rd world lifts trillions of dollars from our wallet.
The first hamsters — er, alarmist insiders — to switch sides and “tell all” can escape the snake. They lose their grants but can go on tour describing all the inside dirt, how they’ve now seen the light, and end up teaching classes on the ethics of scientific research. The others, well, they’ll bcome snake food. In this sense, the situation resembles the prisoner’s dilemma
HighPlanesDrifter12/9/2009
No matter what is discovered about the climate fraudsters, they will gleefully try to convince us that the darkness outside is really daylight…Really? Well this time fewer are buying it. .We “knowNothings Flatearthers” (REALISTS) have known for a long time that phony demagogues on the left will stop at nothing to lead the naive, the ill-informed, the un-informed and the mis-informed down this disastrous superhighway of deceit, whether it be single payer health care, cap/trade, or CAFE standards for cars. If they really cared about greenhouse gases, they would shut their traps and put nuclear power and NatGas on the menu. But they don’t so, we REALISTS must conclude it’s control and money they are after…With the latter being the main dish..HPD out….
One of the big mistakes made by the warmists was leaving this paper trail. It is being dissected in detail by programmers and computer model builders and climatologists who weren’t in the “in group.” I would suggest
This site http://wattsupwiththat.com/
and this site http://climateaudit.org/
For developments.
What really has me puzzled is the role of George Soros who is funding a lot of the warming conspiracy enthusiasts yet he is the biggest investor in Brazil’s new oil exploration project which is enormous. He made his first fortune shorting the British Pound. Why is he spending hundreds of millions to support people opposed to drilling in the US yet investing in Brazil’s project ?
The “fossil fuel” companies are the villains to so many in the AGW camp. I really worry about Soros’ motivations.
Albert @ 18
You need a wake up call. Go to this site,
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/12/08/the-smoking-gun-at-darwin-zero/
read it and then reply.
The most significant outcome of Climategate may be, not the revelation of bad science as documented in the emails, but a torrent of disclosures from folks who have endured years of scorn and put-downs from the Warmers. The website “What’s Up With That?” presents puzzling temperature data near Darwin, Australia.
wattsupwiththat.com/2009/12/08/the-smoking-gun-at-darwin-zero/
I’m hoping that even more individuals will now willingly come out of the tall grass, with their independently developed cases of a “smoking gun.”
Here’s what will likely happen: a considerable number of scientists who are clearly not working in concert, will manage to present several independent cases of bad climate science research. These disparate cases will indicate that the mistakes of Warmers are not so much caused by conspiratorial dishonesty as by ineptitude, sloppiness and lack of discipline. The Warmers’ pattern of isolation and resultant inbreeding made this well nie inevitable; it’s all too human. Oh, there will certainly be some cheaters, some shamans and even crooks. But one need not ascribe sophisticated malevolence or criminality to actions which are consistent with plain ol’ human ineptitude and foolishness.
That has been the pattern in science. This is not at all a new situation within the halls of science. Exactly one century ago the subject was eugenics. Don’t have me make the comparison of pro-eugenicists with pro-global warmests – - try the assessment yourself.
“We have met the enemy and it is….. ”
“the enemy” …… “the enemy” …… Let’s reflect on the simplicity of Walt Kelly’s Pogo. At some point the Warmers drifted into the mindset that they were dealing with lots of enemies. Let’s hope that for some Warmers, the wisdom of Pogo helps the light bulb go on.
Now, where do we go from here? The next important issue becomes: How do we get from here to there?
Reinardt Bronkhorst – I’ve gone through the Harry Read Me file, a good chunk of the code, and several of the emails. I have the data, but I also have a life and nobody pays me to do this. What’s appropriate is to read sufficiently to find out whether an impartial review is necessary to sort how much of climate science has gone wrong. That threshold has clearly been met in my opinion on direct examination of the evidence and the analysis of better coders than I. The Met seems to be doing the right thing with its comprehensive review while the UK government of Gordon Brown is absolutely, scandalously doing the wrong thing by trying to block the science. Scientists should be weighing in on their anti-science action and too many are not, in itself its own scandal.
This release is merely the latest chapter in a very long story of fighting to keep data secret. The data, when it is eventually revealed has repeatedly led to changes. There is every reason to imagine that we’re in for another round, but this time with such a large data set and insiders (the pseudonymous Harry) privately admitting and bitterly complaining that CRU is chock full of corrupt data sets with little care taken that good data is not corrupted by bad it looks to be a very big deal.
Albert – You ask for evidence, here is some that is perfectly clear and needs nothing more than a good high school education to comprehend:
“This still meant an awful lot of encounters with naughty Master stations, when really I suspect
nobody else gives a hoot about. So with a somewhat cynical shrug, I added the nuclear option –
to match every WMO possible, and turn the rest into new stations (er, CLIMAT excepted). In other
words, what CRU usually do. It will allow bad databases to pass unnoticed, and good databases to
become bad, but I really don’t think people care enough to fix ‘em, and it’s the main reason the
project is nearly a year late.”
Scientists should never be indifferent to fixing data and letting bad data contaminate good databases as a matter of habit is scandalous. It fully justifies heads rolling because both the contamination and the cleanup will likely involve taxpayer funds and funding from multiple governments.
By supporting the collapse of US markets for drilling and crating demand, Soros can cause US markets to buy from Brazil at rates favorable to himself.
If the raw data, tweaks to the data and the computer code for the model are not made available, I’m sorry, that’s not science. And by not admitting that the raw data had been tossed, until forced to by the (hacked or leaked) emails, destroys the credibility of Jones, et al. I know how science is supposed to be done – this ain’t it.
And the Malthusian, Chicken Little, capitalism/materialism/production is bad, Hypocrite-in-Chief Al Gore, has no clothes.
Further, the “science is settled” argument requires the last decade to be warmer than the Medieval Warm Period, else the “3 more degrees C this century = tipping point = we’re all dead” crisis goes out the window.
Reinardt Bronkhorst:
Has anyone actually read the stolen info….? Thought not. [Sorry, your thinker needs an urgent 'reset'. We have read it, and it aint pretty.] And I do not have a preference either way so I am not biased. Who first said this was a huge scandel. [Who cares who was first? It is a major scandal, by the very rules of the scientific method.] Can they factually sit down and explain why they said that. Perhaps when we all calm down and actually examine the facts, it may be the thief himself and those who propogate info before reading it who become the hampsters???
Tinkering the data, excluding non-believers from the peer-review process, bullying publishers of scientific journals and stiffing Freedom of Information requests, are ALL fatal contraventions of the scientific method. Reading the e-mails reveals multiple instances of all of those crooked acts.
Under the scientific method, work is supposed to be open, with all data readibly and publicly available to facilitate repeating the ‘experiments’ for purposes of confirmation – or contradiction. Democratic majorities are political tools, not scientific.
Since these requirements were ignored or violated to produce politically correct conclusions, and predictions based on them, none of the authors has any claim to the title nor authority of a ‘scientist’.
But the political and media stampede of AGW proceeds under the mantle of a scientific authority. The above demonstrates that there is none. Yet we’re supposed to cripple our economies by desperate efforts to prevent the occurrence of those mendacious predictions?
It’s time to go back to the beginning and to openly analyze whatever data is left after the original deletions, and open the debate to all of the thousands of scientists who are currently excluded by the IPCC’s media acolytes as ‘skeptics’.
The sooner some honesty is introduced into the process, the sooner that a political direction can be arrived attempted which will do least damage to the human race.
We are all Soro’s moveon trolls? Must be at the pet shop. One mention of hamsters and they get horny.
It is always up to the theorist to prove his theory. Having failed dismally and resorted to deception, the conflict is resolved . The deniers are right and the warmers are wrong.
It’s true! Al Gore is a gerbil.
When is Al Gore going to go swimming in the Great Lakes this Winter for the so-called Global Warming? He won’t. God has a good sense of humor with all the unusual Winter weather when the Global Warming cult come a calling. For example, see what the current unsual Winter throughout the Northeast. Snow that usually falls in January made an early arrival in December. Why? To the the Global Warming cult, this is a result of global warming. Warming causes cooling? Yet we’re supposed to believe the ice will melt & we will all die due to CO2 levels? Who are they kidding? They need to get their collective heads out of their butts. Are you listening Gerbil Gore?
Reinardt Bronkhorst:
Why yes, we’ve read the emails, not every one of them but enough to know that they tell a story of fraud and corruption. We’ve also gone through some of the source code, line by line. That’s where the fraud was committed. Here’s a story you can check out that details one part of the code, where the “fudge factor” was added in. It’s explained in layman’s terms. Anyone, even a reporter can understand it.
http://beforeitsnews.com/story/0000000000000790
The more appropriate animal to cite here would be the lemming. The allegory is strong with this one.
First, they were the subject of a fraud perpetrated by Walt Disney’s “White Wilderness”, the specific claim was that lemmings fell to their deaths in some weird suicidal migration. The fraud was perpetrated by film makers who bought lemmings from Inuit children and threw them over cliffs to be filmed and these shots were cropped to make the point seem true. The documentary was a hit and made the producers lots of money.
This idea was perpetuated for years even after being dispelled many many times over the intervening years. No matter haw many times it was denied and disproved, mindless people couldn’t get over the pitiful shots of those drowning lemmings.
Years later the cliche of lemmings heading mindlessly over the cliffs is still a strong image. A vision that some of these nature minded zombies may still secretly hold as they envision the death of earth in a carbon dioxide fog produced by belching vehicles. No matter how many times they are told that carbon dioxide is a trailing indicator rather than a cause they cling to what they believe to be true, willing victims of yet another fraud on nature.
These same people never realize that the active volcanoes around the world pollute far more in a single week than all the cars and buses in all the world in an entire year. Yet like lemmings they rush over that figurative cliff, mindlessly following the original nature fraud, in the midst of another fraud. They can’t be convinced otherwise unless they actually study the situation. But they pawned that job off on a bunch of rube scientists and got their money’s worth. They collectively paid UEA CRU about $25M to lie to them about the climate for the money. And NASA is lying to us too. And so are several other organizations around the world who are lying to us. And they are partying like there is no tomorrow in Copenhagen because the lemmings around the world are so anxious to head over the cliff to doom.
Poor Lemmings.
Reinhard Bronkhorst,
“the thief himself”
The emails and associated data were requested on multiple occasions by Freedom of Information Act applications. The scientists wouldn’t hand them over, which is a violation of UK law, and US law as well. It is REQUIRED BY LAW that a public organization working with taxpayer money be completely transparent, so that any information related to what the organization is doing can be requested at any time by any member of the public, the taxpayers.
The act of denying the information is a FELONY in the US. You can go to federal prison for years if you are caught denying information to a freedom of information requester.
Also, that data was sent to multiple media outlets including the BBC over a month before it became public. None of the media did anything with it, and then it was made available on the web.
THis tells anyone with a brain that it is a person INSIDE the CRU organization who has released this information, trying to shed the light of truth on a dark conspiracy.
Wake up.
A casual perusal of climategate comment strings demonstrates that the trolls, in general, have disappeared. Truth will out.
This article gets an “F.” I feel sorry for the hamster. You watched the hamster and the snake, didn’t you? You set it up and watched if happen!
A news report a few weeks ago stated that October was the third coldest on record across most of the US. 2007′s low temps were enough to knock off all purported gains from the infamous “hockey stick” graph. The warmers like to claim “weather isn’t climate”, but when the weather everywhere is headed downhill, well, sure as heck looks like climate to me.
“The left/activists/radicals/true-believers never have a Plan B. When Plan A fails, they just repeat Plan A with greated enthusiasm and growing desperation.”
I am paraphrasing, and sorry I don’t have the original to credit. We’ll see a lot of such irrational behavior, and it’s already begun. Louder. Nastier. Typical.
Last month we had a cold spell in the northwest that set records – by 10 to twelve degrees F.
I’de say Gore is bigger trouble than Tiger!
Albert: “The ignorance reflected here is absolutely breathtaking. None, here, (yet) either provides any evidence of their scientific sophistication, or any evidence of having read the East Anglia material (apropos of #5). If, and when you do, you will finally understand why the views being presented here represent nothing but blather”
Hey Albert, how about we rig your life support to CRU code that returns a negative number for the square of two positives…
And no, we don’t want to buy your carbon credits. I hope they’re edible.
Darrell @ 46:
Actually, the warmers only do that when the weather is colder than normal. When it’s warmer than normal, their line is something like, “See? Weather is climate, and it’s warmer!”
Wanna really drive the warmers nuts? Point out all the various things, many of them mutually contradictory, that global warming has been blamed for. It’s something they’re completely unable to explain, so they go into a frenzy of spin.
No matter what else comes of all this I think I can confidently predict that in the future those natural cycles of global warming and cooling that have the alarmists in such a toot will be referred to as “Al Gore Rhythms”..
[Rimshot. Thud. Sound of body being dragged off-stage.]
Many of you probably know about this site, but I am posting it for the benefit of those who do not. Here you can search the emails and other documents from the CRU hack/leak.
http://www.eastangliaemails.com/index.php
Get your own copy of the emails and files here.
http://www.warwickhughes.com/agri/FOI2009.zip
Man, I wish I was in Copenhagen right about now, with all those really smart people who can tell me what to do, what to drive, eat, where I have to set my thermostat, and so on.
But wow, the weather there sucks! It’s colder than my ex-wife’s you-know-what.
Check it out:
http://www.intellicast.com/Local/Weather.aspx?location=DAXX0009
Still, with a warm coat, it would be fun to be there, eating in all those nice restaurants, sleeping in a great hotel, room service, free sex from the local hookers; then, to top it off, I get to fly home in my Gulfstream!
Feeling all self-righteous too, knowing I helped save the world from exhalations. Knowing that giving some third-world country a billion U.S. bucks a year to stop burning elephant turds is money well spent.
It’s so hard to be a leader. Oh, my. I’ll have to go visit Al on his 100-foot yacht to unwind.
Oh, you little people, you just don’t get it.
It was warmer in the ’30s.
http://www.spaceweather.com/ Here is the reason for the cold weather. Note the lack of sunspots. For most of this year, there were none. A few more last year than this. )See Maunder and Dalton Minimums). If the sun continues this pattern, we are in for much colder weather than anyone who hasn’t lived in the Far North has ever seen. Crop failures, anyone? We’ll be needing Gore’s and Moore’s blubber to render for heating oil.
“Climate warmists”?
They’re worse than that, they’re global cooling deniers.
When we in the skeptical community, with nothing else to do but check up on the latest not so greatest addendum to the same old already IGNORED points of contention each suddenly saw these e-mails we became highly, uh…skeptical…of their authenticity. Days and nights became colored deep orange and sky blue. Then we realized that we were already defeated, that this too would pass into nothingness and when we brought it up we would seem even more cultish. Then Glenn Beck did the very first TV piece on it. Skeptics are libertarians at best, mostly non-political propeller heads who like to crunch data. They did not realize, like I did, myself being very new to the scene, that our three days of “wow!” had in fact been NOTICED FINALLY.
This is the LEAST of the scandal. What is real is what the denialists [sic] have been siting on top of for at last four years. No Hockey Stick is real!
To try to stop spending time arguing point-for-point, I made some graphics that explain not so much what is wrong with climatology but display the sort of clues that made me suddenly shake my head at what the headlines were shouting about:
http://i49.tinypic.com/2mpg0tz.jpg Magic Tricks Explained
http://i50.tinypic.com/2efp0zt.jpg Central England Don’t Panic!
http://i46.tinypic.com/t63qxe.jpg “Value-Added” Data
These are universally scorned instead of argued against. Actually, early on I got news that one of the CRU e-mailers had destroyed my Central England argument. It took me two weeks to figure out what type of advanced statistics were involved in that scam:
http://i49.tinypic.com/r245ex.jpg
Great article – yeah its going to be difficult for them to counteract the damage particularly as the world cools and the sun continues its spotless streak. I hear Europe (including Copenhagen) is about to cop a very icy arctic blast!
’5. Reinardt Bronkhorst:
Has anyone actually read the stolen info….? Thought not.’
Er yes, actually, you impertinent jackass.
#5 Reinardt Bronkhorst:======== If you refer to the person who liberated all this climate-gate data when you say ‘thief’, you are one of the few who think that way. That person may have saved the world Trillions of wasted dollars/Euros etc. He/She deserves a Gold Star!
Here’s the definitive basis for my conclusion that the world has not been warming over the last century.
1. I used this raw dataset:
[I lost it. It was confidential anyway before I lost it.]
2. I applied these methods:
[Redacted. It’s a secret.]
3. I implemented this computer model and code:
[Withheld due to confidentiality agreements that I can’t seem to find.]
Therefore, I conclude AGW is a hoax because I got may paper published in a prominent journal!
Case closed. The debate is over. Stop asking me so many questions.
The politcal left has more lives than 100 cats. This is only a setback. Facts don’t matter to these people. History dosen’t matter, IE the 500 year Little Ice Age. The 500 years prior
to that were warmer than now. England competed with France in wine production!!!! Not much
wine grown in England now!
Global warming is a religeon and a BIG BIG business.Facts won’t be allowed to get in the way!
I live in Narnia and we’re having a record cold winder here as well. Nevertheless, send over any hamsters in need. We will shelter and provide for them until spring when they can help us defend against the random attacks from lawyers and other verminous freaks.