Climategate 2.0 — The NASA Files: U.S. Climate Science as Corrupt as CRU (PJM Exclusive — Part Two)
In an email to Andrew Revkin on August 24, 2007, Hansen states:
The contrarians are cleverly mixing up these two matters, global and U.S., thus completely confusing the public discussion.
But it was NASA, and indeed Hansen’s GISS, that emphasized U.S. temperatures all along. Not “contrarians.” NASA ranked individual years, then suddenly said the exercise was simply not worthwhile when the numbers contradicted it.
Hansen’s discourses on this included telling Andrew Revkin on August 24, 2007:
I think we want to avoid getting into more and more detail about ranking of individual years. As far as I can remember, we have always discouraged that as being somewhat nonsensical, other that (sic) the question of what is the warmest year.
Hansen offered no such examples of that kind of discouragement, and indeed NASA had actively engaged in the practice — even though on that apparent priority, NASA’s numbers, claims, and rankings swung wildly.
Hansen also told Revkin on August 23, 2007:
As far as I know we do not make such a list. We don’t like such lists, because the results are not significant and are certain to differ from one group to another [meaning there is no agreement on temperatures claimed as known -- and down to a hundredth of a degree!]. It is generally the media that makes a list. We look for a new record high ["look for" is a bit of an understatement] but note that it is a virtual tie if the difference is small.
Hansen’s memory is faulty. We have seen that substantial differences, such as that between 1934 and 1998 of up to 0.5 degrees Celsius, can subsequently, and rather magically, turn into a statistical tie of 0.02 degrees Celsius under NASA’s gentle ministrations.
An August 10, 2007, email from Ruedy to NASA’s Leslie McCarthy, copying Hansen, pleaded for McCarthy to pitch that:
The problem with rankings is that there are large clumps of years which are equal within the margin of error and rankings within these clumps are purely accidental.
Hansen emailed Revkin on August 23, 2007:
I believe we have clearly stated several times that the ranking [of years] does.
Old habits die hard, however, and later in this email, Hansen emphasizes 2005 as “the warmest year.”
Here is a selection of NASA press releases (links viewed on August 27, 2007):
“2005 Warmest Year in a Century”
“2006 was Earth’s Fifth Warmest Year”
“Top Four Warmest Years Worldwide Since the 1890s”
“The year 2003 is the third warmest year in the period of accurate instrumental data” (prominently mentions the two warmer years)
“The 2002 meteorological year is the second warmest year in the period of accurate instrumental data”
The efforts in August 2007 to reduce interest in NASA being caught making unsupportable claims about increasing U.S. temperatures were ad hoc tactics, used at the time because the U.S.-only and single-year measurements were the means in which Hansen and NASA were exposed as having sexed-up the temperature claims.
The Times’ Revkin diplomatically deferred responsibility for this focus, which NASA shared with a passion bordering on obsession, by writing to Hansen on August 10, 2007:
Given that quite a few folks (gore and some enviros particularly) have often used the US temp trends in arguments for action (string of record years) it’s hard for me to ignore the reanalysis of those annual temps — even though my own focus remains global temp. Essentially, should people always have paid less attention to US (48 state) trend as a meaningful signal of AGW? (now that all those earlier warm years intrude, it certainly makes the case that regional data can be a red herring).
“Regional data” has, of course, long been a mainstay of alarmist reporting on climate even though computer models are well-known as being simply incapable of making regional climate projections vs. global, due to the presence of oceans and mountains. “Regional climate” is a way to find localized trends and claim they are meaningful to the global, when all they are is politically useful anecdotes (when they are or at least can be portrayed as of the right sort: warming, very dry/very wet, etc.). Note also the recognized inconvenience of being caught, and the “intrusion” of “all those earlier warm years.” Given that Revkin had in the past transcribed NASA claims of the sort he here attributes to Gore, this is possibly little more than a bit of kissing up to Hansen, with an invitation for him to help massage and redirect the embarrassment.
Indeed — although Hansen essentially ducks Revkin’s question — Revkin dutifully transcribed Hansen’s line in a story in the New York Times downplaying “Hansen’s Y2k error.” In the article, as in his email responding to praise by Ruedy for the article, Revkin is almost apologetic for even writing it — a full two weeks after the story had broken — but the story had become too difficult for Revkin to ignore any longer.
NASA scientist Ruedy, in a private email to Brazilian journalist Leticia Francisco Sorg on August 15, 2007, also reaffirms how the hypocrisy is so great that NASA is willing to claim that even thirty years is a “brief” period for purposes of observing things — if during those thirty years the warming that occurred is warming they can’t attribute to Man. Otherwise, no — thirty years is plenty of time to draw conclusions.
End of Part Two
Stay tuned to PJM for Part Three. August 2007, NASA’s summer of taxpayer-funded corruption, gets even more appalling.






The press and the AGW con artists, doing a 69. So kinky even a NYT reporter finally got a conscience the morning after.
Numbers, schnumbers.. except when it’s used to prove a point!
Obama played this card recently as well. Commenting of the stimulus adverting a ’2nd Depression’. When there’s actually been 2. 3 if including the 1907 Banker’s panic.. which led to the fed being established..
It’s even funnier when you realize that while the US only represents 2% or so of the world’s area, US temperature stations represent about one-THIRD of the stations used in calculating global temperature trends (never mind urban heat island issues).
They’re trying for a “have their cake and eat it too” tactic – use the mostly-urbanized US stations to “prove” warming, yet dismiss counter-arguments about observed cooling by pointing out how small the US is in relation to the entire planet…
Hansen works for NASA GISS. 1 year ago NOAA published a report on climateprogress saying the southwest was a drought and it was permanent. L.A. floods did not happen. Arizona, Houston and Dallas blizzards were photoshopped. These greenie weenies are not honest in either data or forcasts.
While the number of US stations used has dropped from over 1000 to 134. No, they haven’t broken or gone away; it’s just the warm-mongers have progressively filtered out those stations in higher altitudes and rural areas- the March of the Thermometers towards urban heat islands. Voila! Instant (faux) warming!
It should not escape notice that Obama has claimed his stimulus package saved million of jobs, the evidence being absence of an imagined job decline even worse than the Obama Depression reality. We should also remember that in a similar vane, the Kissinger solution to the Vietnam War was to declare victory and come home.
My point is simply that one might well imagine Gore stepping forward and claiming credit for defeating AGW with his first book, the proof being Jone’s admitted no statistically reliable evidence of warming over the past 15 years. The Gorons will surely applaud any proclamation from the Inventor of the Internet and are not nearly smart enough to even detect the irony.
It appears that the germane question is not “How many Gorons does it take to read a thermometer” but where it was placed before the reading. NOAA weather station instructions do, after all, suggest thermometers be placed in the shade. A government employee like Hansen should not be faulted for thinking this means “where the sun does not shine.”
In the meantime, I will deal with the immediate issue of fighting global warming by tossing another log on the fire and huddling close wrapped in my wool blanket.
You might want to punch up the last by pointing out that the warming trend which proves AGW only extends from 1975 onward, at best 35 years and then only if you ignore the actual temperature record from the past 5 years. If 30 years of warming prior to human CO2 contributions is too brief for observing things then how can the 30 years of warming from 1975-2005 be long enough to observe that very same thing?
It’s time for NASA to distance itself form the political machinations of pseudo-science.
#5 Bohemond
Hey, they said the temperatures were showing an upward trend and that man was causing it. They didn’t actually lie.
Mr Horner:
If you haven’t done this already (I took a look on the CEI website — if this material is there, it was difficult to find; if it is there, it would be nice to have some links to it), it would be useful if you would post:
1. The Original FOI requests
2. NASA’s initial responses/delays
3. The litigation notice and any related correspondence
4. Any confirmation received when they did finally respond (along with what they weren’t releasing)
5. Details of your follow up FOIA requests.
Having a complete record available would be beneficial for a number of reasons. Amongst others, it would show clearly how NASA had failed to meet its FOIA obligations and perhaps map out a path for others who have met similar stonewalling.
Many thanks for your efforts to get this type of material into the public domain.
Heads of government agencies should not be advocates for particular policies. The key word here is “advocate.” Hansen should be removed from his position.
I might expand a bit on max @ #7. Back in 1976 (or so) the fear-mongers were forecasting the coming ice age because it had been getting colder for about ten years or longer. Around 2005 I began asking those who accepted the AGW fraud, how did we go from an oncoming ice age to global warming in the matter of thirty years? Because very few agreed with me, they either wouldn’t answer or would give me the usual pap about scientific consensus.
I am hoping the NASA emails will be publicly posted somewhere in searchable format like the East Anglia emails.
Criminal fraud has been exposed. When will there be prosecutions? This is oganized conspiracy that would fall under the RICOH act?
I just can not understand why Hansen was not fired years ago, and why he is not currently serving a life sentence for multiple frauds.
How many of his fellow scientists’ careers did he destroy? They were good, decent, honest people, while he is a pathologically lying, sleazy piece of sh–. And how many tens of millions of our dollars did he knowingly waste, pushing his fraudulent scams and destroying good people?
It is getting very tiresome watching the bad guys win over and over. Honestly, these days it seems like Liberals get a complete pass on any and all illegal acts.
Keep up the pressure, Mr, Horner. You efforts are greatly appreciated by those of us who can think rationally and possess integrity.
Is there any realistic hope or potential for the person who engineered the release/leaks of the e-mails from Anglia ever being identified? Those events of several weeks ago now sure got my hopes up at the time, but I could never have imagined that the truth-light shining would have just kept rolling as it has, until the number of heads rolling as a result is actually significant. Now THAT is a person that should get some kind of Nobel prize. Maybe if they can pry the ill-gotten one out of Algore’s hands, it could be given to that person. I hope they are all right today. Does anyone have any info on them? Anybody heard anything?
*Sigh….*
I have been reading most of this afternoon….
First the order of the emails seems to have been mixed in deliberate fashion. But they are very interesting none the less. Some show bias… Some show true belief. For instance IMHO Hanson never waivers. A true believer? Gavin on the other hand looks like a jerk and is show in very poor light. They also put MANN into a potential pickle. So here is how I see this going down…
Ruedy is asked to resign… He will.
Hanson Left go as a dreamer.
Mann is just slapped as being kinda dumb.
Gavin is being thrown under the BUS.
NASA is a huge organization. It’s paramount mission is to continue the mission.
18. BC: – Sigh…
Keep frackin’ that (dead) chicken, BC.
There is no way the Right Wing will win on this one. On the other hand, there is no way the Left wing will win eiter.
The environment remains a point of contention, … the right hates it, but must ecept it, while the left loves it but must loath it..
so where do you stand?
#18, #20
BC, Am I correct to note that the CO2 model DOESN’T fit the historical temperature (un-spoofed) records? How many logical fallicies can we find in just this one post of yours?
http://www.biomind.de/realCO2/ (Historical CO2, 1820-present)
http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/PageMill_Images/image277.gif
Poor Citizen @ #21: This is not a right/left argument. This is an argument about science and its misuse. As matters stand right now, there is precious little reliable evidence that the earth has been warming. The temperature data are compromised. There is less evidence that whatever warming has occurred is beyond natural variation. Finally, there is no thought given by any of the warmists that warming may actually be beneficial and that any attempt to restrict human activity may be quite harmful.
Orac, dare I call him “The Oracle” has published today a wonderful and somewhat heart wrenching blog about corruption in scientific practise. I was particularly impressed with his description of how science today is and should be practised.
http://just-me-in-t.blogspot.com/2010_02_01_archive.html
I found it highly appropriate when considering the ‘fudged’ data being supposedly promulgated by the IPCC et al.
To #21
Where do I stand? Easy. I hate liars! And these guys have been lying to us while pretending to be scientists. Many got rich doing so. I thought we left the middle ages behind when the Church told people what to think. Now we have discovered a whole new set of scientists willing to support the theory that the sun does rotate around the earth.
Where do I stand? Trillions of dollars wasted, money gone, jobs gone, technology bastardized or blunted. I stand firmly in the position that somebody needs to go to jail and Hansen is as good a start as anyone.
Any questions?
To Sharpshooter: No, you are not correct in the slightest, and linking to the homepage of a crackpot German schoolteacher does not exactly help your cause. And if you want some graphs, here are some graphs. Or are going to claim that Woods Hole is also a scumbag member of VSCEP (the “Vast Scientific Conspiracy to Educate People”) and should be burned at the stake like the others?
Aaron told hebrew women to remove their ear rings which was an object for him to mould a golden calf for them, in other to make an object not appear in their dreams and visions so that they will see an object from creation which they are suppose to know,when it will be sighted from moutain which Moses will illustrate how the object from creature looks like,for them to know what kind of instruments,machine and accesories creator uses and works with.
#13 Schiller Thurkettle:
“I am hoping the NASA emails will be publicly posted somewhere in searchable format like the East Anglia emails”
They are posted all over the place – check out
http://yourvoicematters.org/cru/
For more do a search for
cru documents searchable format
#21 Poor Citizen:
There is no way the Right Wing will win on this one. On the other hand, there is no way the Left wing will win eiter.
The environment remains a point of contention, … the right hates it, but must ecept it, while the left loves it but must loath it..
so where do you stand?
–That’s posed in a left-wing manner. Aside from the question here of science being bastardized to promote a massive left-wing agenda, liberals all too often see policy questions as binary, black-or-white variables: either you support this pork, or you hate children; either support these cumbersome regulations, or you hate the environment. Conservatives prefer to view these questions in terms of degrees. None of us wants mercury flowing in our rivers or all forests razed to the ground, but none of us wants insane regulations that only allow the rich to fly or enjoy warm-climate produce either.
#26 from Gore acolyte and true believer BC (who else?)
“…here are some graphs. Or are going to claim that Woods Hole is also a scumbag member of VSCEP (the “Vast Scientific Conspiracy to Educate People”) and should be burned at the stake like the others?”
Hockey sticks, BC? You offer us hockey sticks? Hockey sticks that were long ago shown to be false presentations of reality? Hockey sticks derived from manipulated data and faked evidence?
Here is what some idiot at Woods Hole wrote:
“Through the study of ancient ice cores from Antarctica it is possible to compare atmospheric concentrations of the dominant greenhouse gas, carbon dioxide (CO2) in the atmosphere with temperature variations over the past 400 thousand years of the earth’s history…”
No. Bxxxsxxx. It is impossible to do any such thing to any reasonable degree of accuracy, especially not to global amounts of CO2 from a few ice cores and temperatures accurate to hundredths or even tenths of a degree C from a few petrified tree rings. And earth has no “history” going back 400,000 years. History is the written record of past events. Show me some history written more than 3000 thousand years ago of any kind and most especially that mentions temperatures and I’ll fix you up with a 2010 Woods Hole Axxhole Sap of the year award.
BC, get lost with this nutty crap. You are shedding any credibility you may have somehow garnered from past comments by hanging in with this utter nonsense.
Poor Citizen, most logical thinking adults are in accord with Jack in Silver Spring’s comment. There shouldn’t be a ‘Left’ or ‘Right’ ideology when it comes to true science. For politics to be pushed to the lengths it has with this issue is beyond reproach.
BC, you’ve posted nonsense from RealClimate, WWF, NASA/GISS, NOAA, LLNL and many other sites which have been proven unreliable and laughingly biased. And not once rebuking, admitting fault to its fiction.
Now, you’ve found a site and attempt to sell it off as ‘sigh’, faux tiresome in trying to indoctrinate, wait, ‘educate’ the masses of AGW. Desperation is the world’s worst cologne..
I would say our scientific technology has greatly improved from the dinosaur-like ‘data’ site you’ve discovered. Honestly, a majority of the comments by these scientists are ‘calculations’, ‘estimates’, ‘likely’, ‘assuming’, ‘perhaps’, ‘should’, ‘expected’ and the sort. Or making assumptions of ever-increasing CO2 levels for the future. That’s not climatology but sociology.
The site
“Unprecedented warming since the 1970′s”, James Hansen’s hockey stick for ‘validity’, “international panels of experts, scientific societies, Government science agencies (hmm, I ‘wonder’ who these are?)..”. “..except a few panels composed primarily of people with limited if any expertise in climate science (nice opinionated comment..hahaha), representing ideological and business interests who opposed government regulation (sounds like YOUR camp, BC. Oh, and ‘Government regulation’ is a ‘good thing’ in this discussion?).
“Since the 1980s, a cooperative international program had been measuring the gas at land stations around the world..”. Yep, a handful of urban stations-only in speculative locations rather than all for true, honest scientific method, discovery.
Later the article goes into emotional diatribes equivocal to bed wetting consequences.
Now, the Woods Hole Research site possessing IPCC(seriously..?), NOAA and even East Anglia charts! This is your ‘validity’?
And the ‘Crème de la Crème’ in closing is for scientific uncertainty queries, the site provides John Holdren’s contact info!
HAHAHAHAHA
I think you’re broken, BC. NOTHING is getting through..
I’ve read more non-fiction in an Arthur C. Clarke science fiction novels than your quackery. Mr. Clarke was a man ahead of his time. Hey, you did put a smile on my face..
~Cheers
If the AGW were real why would so many lies be coming to light, so much data “lost”, so many personal attacks launched against other scientists?
Those things are what are done in politics to grab power and money. They are also done by scientists that want power and prestige and money and find that their hypothesis can’t stand the bright light of real scientific inquiry.
I am trying to think of a single left/liberal/progressive program that is ever presented using 1) reasoned and logical arguments, 2) reference to any prior similar successes, 3) fair cost/benefit analysis, 4) acknowledgement of its affect on personal freedoms and 5) disclosure of possible adverse affects and unintended consequences. As citizens we need and deserve such an approach for all new proposed legislation. But instead we get the Pelosi/Reid/Frank/Obama bum’s rush on everything.
It’s all sloganeering, sophomoric feel-good psychobabble and threats. Always pitching and spinning to keep people from thinking critically.
That’s why the trolls don’t do well in these more technical threads.
Points well taken, Mike G.