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		<title>By: Kent Clizbe</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/climatedate-document-database-from-pjtvpajamas-media/#comment-460677</link>
		<dc:creator>Kent Clizbe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 18:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The momentum is with us now. We must organize and press the issue.  

We&#039;ve set up a Yahoo Group where we can both archive data, and plan actions.  

No Consensus--No Warming (NOC-NOW)--Stop the Scam--Halt the IPCC

We have a quickly growing Yahoo Group (CO2 is Plant Food), and a petition (NOC-NOW) that simply spells out a Declaration of Climate Independence. 
We also have a Facebook Group: No Consensus--No Warming (NOC-NOW)--Stop the AGW Scam. 

The petition will be provided to the US Congress, the White House, the UN, the IPCC, the EU Commission, and other representative bodies involved in &quot;Climate Change&quot; policy deliberations. 

We will be heard. 

Please join the group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/co2isplantfood 

And sign the petition: http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/NOC_NOW/ 

Join Facebook group: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=191580771509

We can stop this scam, together. 

Kent Clizbe
NOC-NOW
Stop the Scam—Halt the IPCC 
No Consensus—No Warming</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The momentum is with us now. We must organize and press the issue.  </p>
<p>We&#8217;ve set up a Yahoo Group where we can both archive data, and plan actions.  </p>
<p>No Consensus&#8211;No Warming (NOC-NOW)&#8211;Stop the Scam&#8211;Halt the IPCC</p>
<p>We have a quickly growing Yahoo Group (CO2 is Plant Food), and a petition (NOC-NOW) that simply spells out a Declaration of Climate Independence.<br />
We also have a Facebook Group: No Consensus&#8211;No Warming (NOC-NOW)&#8211;Stop the AGW Scam. </p>
<p>The petition will be provided to the US Congress, the White House, the UN, the IPCC, the EU Commission, and other representative bodies involved in &#8220;Climate Change&#8221; policy deliberations. </p>
<p>We will be heard. </p>
<p>Please join the group: <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/co2isplantfood" rel="nofollow">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/co2isplantfood</a> </p>
<p>And sign the petition: <a href="http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/NOC_NOW/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/NOC_NOW/</a> </p>
<p>Join Facebook group: <a href="http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=191580771509" rel="nofollow">http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=191580771509</a></p>
<p>We can stop this scam, together. </p>
<p>Kent Clizbe<br />
NOC-NOW<br />
Stop the Scam—Halt the IPCC<br />
No Consensus—No Warming</p>
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		<title>By: Btok</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/climatedate-document-database-from-pjtvpajamas-media/#comment-459321</link>
		<dc:creator>Btok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 00:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Time is getting short and it is coming down to the fact, that soon ( December 7 to December 18 ) I will have to pray to the good Lord to maintain our freedoms and not allow our leaders to sign the Copenhagen Treaty, which will take away our liberties, let go and let God-this being a challenge to our Lord and Saviour? However, while there is still time to prevent the loss of a lifetime, perhaps loss of life it&#039;s self - I will do what I am able to fight for our freedoms! The whole Climate Change agenda is a proven fraud and racketeering, but the United Nations and Globalist governments don&#039;t care as that is just the excuse instrument they have used to ensnare us, they are going to try to push it through anyway! Has everybody out there become a tree hugger? The tree will be standing 100 years from now, but will you be looking at the tree, from inside the fence of a Concentration Camp? Anyone out there want to fight to maintain their freedom anymore? Please do all you can to preserve freedom in North America!

Check out what Government is doing behind your back at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VebOTc-7shU

Canadians: to request that PM Harper doesn&#039;t sign the Copenhagen Treaty, thereby causing Canadians to lose 
their Sovereignty and Freedom email the PM at: pm@pm.gc.ca

Any lawyers want to help out by filing this Copenhagen Treaty be classified as an illegal Treaty, in order to, help save Freedom in North America? ( Unlimited Promotion Opportunity Here For a  Law firm to Gain a favorable high profile credibility! )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Time is getting short and it is coming down to the fact, that soon ( December 7 to December 18 ) I will have to pray to the good Lord to maintain our freedoms and not allow our leaders to sign the Copenhagen Treaty, which will take away our liberties, let go and let God-this being a challenge to our Lord and Saviour? However, while there is still time to prevent the loss of a lifetime, perhaps loss of life it&#8217;s self &#8211; I will do what I am able to fight for our freedoms! The whole Climate Change agenda is a proven fraud and racketeering, but the United Nations and Globalist governments don&#8217;t care as that is just the excuse instrument they have used to ensnare us, they are going to try to push it through anyway! Has everybody out there become a tree hugger? The tree will be standing 100 years from now, but will you be looking at the tree, from inside the fence of a Concentration Camp? Anyone out there want to fight to maintain their freedom anymore? Please do all you can to preserve freedom in North America!</p>
<p>Check out what Government is doing behind your back at: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VebOTc-7shU" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VebOTc-7shU</a></p>
<p>Canadians: to request that PM Harper doesn&#8217;t sign the Copenhagen Treaty, thereby causing Canadians to lose<br />
their Sovereignty and Freedom email the PM at: <a href="mailto:pm@pm.gc.ca">pm@pm.gc.ca</a></p>
<p>Any lawyers want to help out by filing this Copenhagen Treaty be classified as an illegal Treaty, in order to, help save Freedom in North America? ( Unlimited Promotion Opportunity Here For a  Law firm to Gain a favorable high profile credibility! )</p>
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		<title>By: DeeDeeWilson</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/climatedate-document-database-from-pjtvpajamas-media/#comment-459230</link>
		<dc:creator>DeeDeeWilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 21:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In reply to #16, John Skookum&#039;s note, 
ohn Skookum:

&quot;How do tags get assigned? You need them for ‘Hughes’ and ‘LTRR’. Malcolm Hughes is the tree ring witch-doctor who helped Mann write the original hockey stick paper in the late 90s. ***Would love to see the complete raw data for his core samples and compare them to the data sets selected for dozens of other alarmist studies*** [emphasis mine].

Nov 30, 2009 - 11:04 am&quot;

I got the entire package from Wikileaks last night (01/12/2009) and in the first half dozen or so emails from Jones, he is writing back and forth to a Russian climatologist, and they are talking about the &quot;... 314 tree ring [counting] sites&quot;. Dummies that we are, we&#039;d assume that &#039;sites&#039;, plural, would mean 314 groups of trees, all over the Siberian tundra. Nope! &quot;Ah doan sink so, Lucy!&quot; They are basing all this information on *314* individual TREES, all in the same general area, on the south edge of the tundra.

I&#039;d recommend going to Wikileaks.org, to this page, https://secure.wikileaks.org/wiki/Climatic_Research_Unit_emails,_data,_models,_1996-2009. and then, about half way down the page, is this link to the whole schlmahzzle, all the publications, the crooked programs, the doctored data sets, and the incriminating emails. https://secure.wikileaks.org/leak/climactic-research-unit-foi-leaked-data.zip

Everything PJ Media has written is borne out in the raw emails and other information. Some of the PDFs are absolutely astonishing in their duplicitous exaggerations.

If this doesn&#039;t get into the MSM to debunk the whole AGW thing, then we have even more reason to believe that they are all a pack of liars and a pep squad for &#039;Good Ol&#039; Barry Soetero&#039; and his merry gang of thieves. 

... or simply duplicitous, scientifically illiterate and innumerate shills for the whole One World movement.

DeeDee in AZ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to #16, John Skookum&#8217;s note,<br />
ohn Skookum:</p>
<p>&#8220;How do tags get assigned? You need them for ‘Hughes’ and ‘LTRR’. Malcolm Hughes is the tree ring witch-doctor who helped Mann write the original hockey stick paper in the late 90s. ***Would love to see the complete raw data for his core samples and compare them to the data sets selected for dozens of other alarmist studies*** [emphasis mine].</p>
<p>Nov 30, 2009 &#8211; 11:04 am&#8221;</p>
<p>I got the entire package from Wikileaks last night (01/12/2009) and in the first half dozen or so emails from Jones, he is writing back and forth to a Russian climatologist, and they are talking about the &#8220;&#8230; 314 tree ring [counting] sites&#8221;. Dummies that we are, we&#8217;d assume that &#8216;sites&#8217;, plural, would mean 314 groups of trees, all over the Siberian tundra. Nope! &#8220;Ah doan sink so, Lucy!&#8221; They are basing all this information on *314* individual TREES, all in the same general area, on the south edge of the tundra.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d recommend going to Wikileaks.org, to this page, <a href="https://secure.wikileaks.org/wiki/Climatic_Research_Unit_emails,_data,_models,_1996-2009" rel="nofollow">https://secure.wikileaks.org/wiki/Climatic_Research_Unit_emails,_data,_models,_1996-2009</a>. and then, about half way down the page, is this link to the whole schlmahzzle, all the publications, the crooked programs, the doctored data sets, and the incriminating emails. <a href="https://secure.wikileaks.org/leak/climactic-research-unit-foi-leaked-data.zip" rel="nofollow">https://secure.wikileaks.org/leak/climactic-research-unit-foi-leaked-data.zip</a></p>
<p>Everything PJ Media has written is borne out in the raw emails and other information. Some of the PDFs are absolutely astonishing in their duplicitous exaggerations.</p>
<p>If this doesn&#8217;t get into the MSM to debunk the whole AGW thing, then we have even more reason to believe that they are all a pack of liars and a pep squad for &#8216;Good Ol&#8217; Barry Soetero&#8217; and his merry gang of thieves. </p>
<p>&#8230; or simply duplicitous, scientifically illiterate and innumerate shills for the whole One World movement.</p>
<p>DeeDee in AZ</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/climatedate-document-database-from-pjtvpajamas-media/#comment-459003</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 15:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read a report not too long ago... can&#039;t remember where. Anyway, it explained the correlation between carbon dioxide in the atmosphere and global temperature. It explained that rising temperature caused an increase in CO-2... NOT the other way around.

Has anyone else read about this?

It seems that someone in the science community should try to make himself heard regarding this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read a report not too long ago&#8230; can&#8217;t remember where. Anyway, it explained the correlation between carbon dioxide in the atmosphere and global temperature. It explained that rising temperature caused an increase in CO-2&#8230; NOT the other way around.</p>
<p>Has anyone else read about this?</p>
<p>It seems that someone in the science community should try to make himself heard regarding this.</p>
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		<title>By: Bear</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/climatedate-document-database-from-pjtvpajamas-media/#comment-458723</link>
		<dc:creator>Bear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 04:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>15. tanstaafl:

I watched the entire video.  The second half of it is the most compelling.  Pretty much confirms what I&#039;ve known intuitively for years.  I thought reading the harry readme txt was enough for me.  

BTW who is BC and why does he think he can persuade us with his gibberish? It seems, to be in favor of this theory, you have to be very thin skinned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>15. tanstaafl:</p>
<p>I watched the entire video.  The second half of it is the most compelling.  Pretty much confirms what I&#8217;ve known intuitively for years.  I thought reading the harry readme txt was enough for me.  </p>
<p>BTW who is BC and why does he think he can persuade us with his gibberish? It seems, to be in favor of this theory, you have to be very thin skinned.</p>
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		<title>By: Donna V.</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/climatedate-document-database-from-pjtvpajamas-media/#comment-458680</link>
		<dc:creator>Donna V.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 03:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh. The Australian Parliament just voted down the ETS, their version of Cap and Trade.  Looked like a sure thing just a few weeks ago.

Must remember to pick up some Aussie wines next time I grocery shop,...,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh. The Australian Parliament just voted down the ETS, their version of Cap and Trade.  Looked like a sure thing just a few weeks ago.</p>
<p>Must remember to pick up some Aussie wines next time I grocery shop,&#8230;,</p>
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		<title>By: Donna V.</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/climatedate-document-database-from-pjtvpajamas-media/#comment-458558</link>
		<dc:creator>Donna V.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 01:23:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, well, the &quot;nontroversy&quot; grows.

In Australia, the opposition party has just elected a new leader, Tony Abbott, who is strongly against the energy taxation scheme being foisted on the Aussies.  Abbott is using the Climategate scandal to argue against the ETS and it&#039;s very unlikely that the Aussie PM, Kevin Rudd will be able to pass it in time for Copenhagen, as was the plan.

And Mann, BC&#039;s saint of the Holy Hockey Stick, is now under investigation by the university.  Gee, BC, will Penn State&#039;s Mann end up in the state pen? One can always hope,...,:-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, well, the &#8220;nontroversy&#8221; grows.</p>
<p>In Australia, the opposition party has just elected a new leader, Tony Abbott, who is strongly against the energy taxation scheme being foisted on the Aussies.  Abbott is using the Climategate scandal to argue against the ETS and it&#8217;s very unlikely that the Aussie PM, Kevin Rudd will be able to pass it in time for Copenhagen, as was the plan.</p>
<p>And Mann, BC&#8217;s saint of the Holy Hockey Stick, is now under investigation by the university.  Gee, BC, will Penn State&#8217;s Mann end up in the state pen? One can always hope,&#8230;,:-)</p>
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		<title>By: howiem</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/climatedate-document-database-from-pjtvpajamas-media/#comment-458482</link>
		<dc:creator>howiem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 23:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It appears that the Ipcc is engaged in a massive coverup by having their archives removed from the Internet, at least the WaybackMachine http://web.archive.org.  To verify this go to the latter web site and search for http://ipcc.ch.  Twso days ago  did this and was able to find some of the archives, but today I tried it and got either errors or &quot;Archive Removed&quot; notices.  

On their organization page, the IPCC now says that &quot;It does not conduct any research nor does it monitor climate related data or parameters &quot; http://www.ipcc.ch/organization/organization.htm.  It looks like a massive coverup in well underway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It appears that the Ipcc is engaged in a massive coverup by having their archives removed from the Internet, at least the WaybackMachine <a href="http://web.archive.org" rel="nofollow">http://web.archive.org</a>.  To verify this go to the latter web site and search for <a href="http://ipcc.ch" rel="nofollow">http://ipcc.ch</a>.  Twso days ago  did this and was able to find some of the archives, but today I tried it and got either errors or &#8220;Archive Removed&#8221; notices.  </p>
<p>On their organization page, the IPCC now says that &#8220;It does not conduct any research nor does it monitor climate related data or parameters &#8221; <a href="http://www.ipcc.ch/organization/organization.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.ipcc.ch/organization/organization.htm</a>.  It looks like a massive coverup in well underway.</p>
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		<title>By: BC</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/climatedate-document-database-from-pjtvpajamas-media/#comment-458444</link>
		<dc:creator>BC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 23:10:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, the EPA, the NOAA, and every other government connected environmental agency &amp; lab, both here in this country and elsewhere, as well as every university connected lab and research facility, have all joined together for some dark conspiracy to, umm....understand global climate!!! Friggin idiots. It wouldn&#039;t be so bad if this stuff stayed within the right wing nutosphere, but nooo....our fearless, responsible corporate media is doing its usual researchless, random talking head &quot;coverage&quot;. Useless as usual.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, the EPA, the NOAA, and every other government connected environmental agency &amp; lab, both here in this country and elsewhere, as well as every university connected lab and research facility, have all joined together for some dark conspiracy to, umm&#8230;.understand global climate!!! Friggin idiots. It wouldn&#8217;t be so bad if this stuff stayed within the right wing nutosphere, but nooo&#8230;.our fearless, responsible corporate media is doing its usual researchless, random talking head &#8220;coverage&#8221;. Useless as usual.</p>
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		<title>By: TexEd</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/climatedate-document-database-from-pjtvpajamas-media/#comment-458363</link>
		<dc:creator>TexEd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 21:12:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We need a place to build a data base and a methodology to add to it. I&#039;ve just spent time on &quot;www.federalspending.org&quot; and have located the enterprises that EPA gave money to over the years.
I pretty much know what &quot;IBM&quot; is, but there are so many small, arcanely named enterprises and it is impossible to know if one or  more are owned by Mann and his significant other.&#039;First, can we identify the top 10 to 25 alleged hoaxers? Then, we need a detailed CV on each with organizational affiliations, affiliations that can be tracked against data bases. The end will help tie people together and people to money.
We already know that Gore and the UN agency got Nobel thingees and that ties them together. We know that Gore will make millions from this scam. It is, therefore, a reasonable hypothesis that the UN folks will also make millions from the scam.
These guys have all left paper trails that will prove their perfidy; it was &quot;established science&quot; so they had little need to cover their tracks.
The captive media will do nothing! But, we should be able to discover many things from existing records and, maybe, at the same time, help bury the captive and stupid media.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We need a place to build a data base and a methodology to add to it. I&#8217;ve just spent time on &#8220;www.federalspending.org&#8221; and have located the enterprises that EPA gave money to over the years.<br />
I pretty much know what &#8220;IBM&#8221; is, but there are so many small, arcanely named enterprises and it is impossible to know if one or  more are owned by Mann and his significant other.&#8217;First, can we identify the top 10 to 25 alleged hoaxers? Then, we need a detailed CV on each with organizational affiliations, affiliations that can be tracked against data bases. The end will help tie people together and people to money.<br />
We already know that Gore and the UN agency got Nobel thingees and that ties them together. We know that Gore will make millions from this scam. It is, therefore, a reasonable hypothesis that the UN folks will also make millions from the scam.<br />
These guys have all left paper trails that will prove their perfidy; it was &#8220;established science&#8221; so they had little need to cover their tracks.<br />
The captive media will do nothing! But, we should be able to discover many things from existing records and, maybe, at the same time, help bury the captive and stupid media.</p>
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