Comments on: The Armenian Genocide Bill: The Right Move At The Wrong Time

By: datadave

datadave — Sat, 27 Oct 2007 23:30:52 +0000

oh boy, Republicans don’t know what they are supporting it seems.

The Turks don’t want to admit to the genocide of the Armenians because they continue to practice genocide against the Kurds at the moment. Hundreds of Kurds are quietly killed every year out of the limelight by the Turks and yet no one cares so when the Kurds rebel against the torture and killing machine…we are supposed to call the Kurds ‘terrorists’.

Just to get the Grey Wolves howling I’ll add that the ‘Turks’ are late comers to Asia Minor. Armenians and Greeks were there before them…it was with Genghis Khan their Mongol leader with whom the Turks fought with out of Central Asia that Turks were able to conquer Asia Minor…and then the Ottomon Empire with it’s torture sessions controlled much of the Near East and Greece and the Balkins with an Iron Hand using techniques out of the Middle Ages. This Medieval idea of using torture and violence is too much with the Turks of today. Which is why so much violence continues there. the EU is having second thoughts about Turkey as a result. And the recent occupation of Cyprus is another reason to not support Turkish imperialism.

also, Azerbaijan attacked Armenia first, not the other way around.. and salute to the poor country of Armenia in protecting their people from a possible Turkish genocide from the East as well as from the West.

By: Semra

Semra — Sat, 27 Oct 2007 22:21:03 +0000

You are obviously a very biased person. You forgot to mention that Armenians rebelled in Eastern Turkey were they were a numerical minority (17%) which is the reason why Armenians were expelled in the first place. Similarly, you forgot to mention that during those rebellions your “hero” Dro Kanayan slaughtered thousands of Muslim (Turkish, Azerbaijani, Kurdish, Circassian, etc.) women and children during WWI. If you read his memoirs, you would see that he took great pride in such actions-which he describes in grusome detail!
As if calling expulsion “genocide” and calling terrorists “heroes” weren’t enough, you seem to justify Armenian occupation of 20% of Azerbaijan’s territory including Karabakh. Not surprisingly, you forgot to mention the +35,000 Azerbaijani Turk civilians killed in 1992 because of that occupation -a real genocide. Nor did you mention the +1,000,000 Azeri refugees created by Armenian terror. Instead of describing the whole story truthfully, you chose to engage in propaganda and lies.

By: MTMT

MTMT — Thu, 25 Oct 2007 06:23:18 +0000

IT IS A BIG LIE

There is a legitimate historical controversy concerning the interpretation of the events in question and most of the scholars who have propounded a contra genocide viewpoint are of the highest calibre and repute, including Bernard Lewis, Stanford Shaw, David Fromkin, Justin McCarthy, Guenther Lewy, Norman Stone, Kamuran G√ºr√ºn, Michael Gunter, Gilles Veinstein, Andrew Mango, Roderic Davidson, J.C. Hurwitz, William Batkay, Edward J. Erickson and Steven Katz.

This is by no means an exhaustive list. A good number of well-respected scholars recognize the deportation decision in 1915, taken under World War I conditions, as a security measure to stop the Armenians from co-operating with the foreign forces invading Anatolia.

On the legal aspect, the elements of the genocide crime are strictly defined and codified by the UN Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Genocide, adopted by the General Assembly on 9 December 1948. However, Armenians, claiming that “the evidence is so overwhelming”, so far have failed to submit even one credible evidence of genocide.

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By: ht

ht — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 20:57:51 +0000

Your Right. We shouldn’t recognize the holocaust either. After all it happened almost 70 years ago. Why keep “insulting” the Germans?…… Seriously, just a reminder to all, the Armenain genocide Resolution was a bipartisan bill endorsed by both republicans and democrats to officially recognize the first genocide of the 20th century. Mrs. Pelosi has been an advocate on this most important human right issue for 20 years. Unlike George Bush who promised the Armenian community to acknowledge the Armenain genocide before being elected, but now has no problems flip flopping and cowars to the genocidal denialist, anti-american, anti-semetic “sudo tukish ally” who after the US gave 26 Billion US tax payer dollars, didn’t let our troops go through. Turkey is no ally. THEY JUST WANT U.S. TAX PAYER DOLLARS. Tukey isn’t going anywhere. And I say no one country is worth our country lying for them especially about genocide…The right time to speak against genocide is NOW!

By: JihadGene

JihadGene — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 15:55:28 +0000

Nancy Pelosi is an icon of stupid moves. With her it is darn near impossible to say what her motivations were…some say it was the Armenian American campaign contributions in her district. Here, in California’s mostly conservative Central Valley, we have a Republican Congressman, George Radanovich, who co-sponsored the bill.
He was on radio KMJ AM, a 50k watt talk-show powerhouse out of Fresno, touting how good this bill was on a Monday, and it all blew up in his face within the next two days. Radanovich said on radio, “It’s the 1st time I have agreed with Nancy Pelosi.” Radanovich further stated the Turks would get over it in 3 weeks time and all would return to normal”.
How naive, but it would be even more naive of me to believe that Radanovich did not partner with Pelosi on this due to the numerous wealthy Armenian Americans in his district. Proving once more, people can be bought and suckered, even the very naive Congressman George Radanovich (R-CA).

By: OmegaPaladin

OmegaPaladin — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 08:55:30 +0000

We need Turkey, like we need Pakistan. I’d love to pass this resolution someday, when Turkey isn’t necessary for our interests.

Armenians – Wait for us to finish up in Iraq, then we can talk.

By: GCA

GCA — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 06:17:31 +0000

No matter how I weigh it, I can only reach one conclusion with two possibilities for it: Either the amateur foreign policy maven and her henchmen brought the Aremnian issue to committee without realizing its consequences to the U.S. position in the Middle East and our vulnerabilities in Iraq, or she brought it with full knowledge of both. In the first instance the Pelosi led shadow state department is filled with idiots and incompetent; in the second it is both vile and guilty of treason. Either way, this country cannot afford to have these buffons running our foreign policy.

By: azrer

azrer — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 05:47:29 +0000

It is exactly these type of hypocracy that sustains the armenian allegations. In the whole story of about “Dro” the butcher the author choose a specific line of presenting armenian position on every possible point – whatever armenians did was justified.
Armenians 1918 were occupying Azerbaijany capital of Baki. In just this city they killed 30 azerbaijanies in the March of 1918. This authors does not mentioned that. She does not mentioned that Armenia currently occupies about %20 of Azerbaijan and has made %10 of Azerbaijanies refugees. It is type of lobbyst that give the armenians hopes in their aggressions. How carefully she has chosen her presentation of Dro to call sympathy to her payers.

By: Ron Snyder

Ron Snyder — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 01:42:11 +0000

No, I would not be in favor of making a moral pronouncement of an event that happened almost 100 years ago. Not even if Ronald Reagan or FDR were pushing it thru Congress (non-partisan!)

I want Congress to take care of this country, not get on their moral highhorse. Look in the mirror first type of thing.

By: Marwan's daughter

Marwan's daughter — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 00:13:35 +0000

You would be in favor of it if Nancy Pelosi was not the one pushing this bill through Congress. Turkey is gone now. Unless there is a military coup, Turkey is now in the hands of Islamists.