Celebrating Hate in the Name of Multiculturalism
This surely has something to do with Sudais’ influential patron in London, Mohammed Abdul Bari, the director of the East London Mosque and the secretary general of the Muslim Council of Britain (MCB), a registered charity founded in 1997 that serves as a national umbrella organization for 400 Muslim “affiliate” groups. Bari has reduced Sudais’ rhetoric to “some of the old reports by Islamophobes” and defended him as “very popular. He’s not just coming to our mosque, he is also visiting major mosques around the country.”
Bari’s East London Mosque received one million dollars from the Saudi government for its new Islamic center, which opened in 2004, and his Muslim Council prefers to parry or rationalize when confronted by the nastiness of those religious “leaders” it welcomes to Albion.
BBC reporter John Ware interviewed Bari, as well as his predecessor in the secretary generalship of the MCB, Sir Iqbal Sacranie, in 2005. When it came to the subject of the Islamist root of the MCB’s affiliate organizations, Sacranie had this to say:
Ware: I’m quoting from Alhe Hadith. As I say, it’s quite an important affiliate of yours and just to give you one example from their website, they say of Jews and Christians: “Their ways are based on sick or deviant views” and that “imitating the Kuffaar leads to a permanent abode in hellfire.” … Do you subscribe to that view?
Sacranie: I don’t subscribe to that. I’m not a member of Alhe Hadith but it’s a membership that we have, it’s diversity that exists in the community, having different views on life.
Ware: Isn’t it a form of diversity you should disown?
Sacranie: Well, we must accept the reality on the ground that the diversity that we have with the Muslim Community in the UK and as long as they subscribe to our constitution, which is very clear, which is on the website and it’s totally transparent in terms of its activities of a work which is through the teachings of the Quran and upholding the principles of Islam; then what they do outside the Council, there is no control that we have on them.
“Diversity” and “community” have become catchwords to those who stand for their semantic opposites. Among the other affiliates of the MCB, for instance, is the Islamic Foundation, established in 1974 by the head figures from the Jamma’at Islami party of Pakistan, which hopes to see the country governed by Sharia law. Jamma’at Islami is guided by the messianic writings of Abul Ala Maududi, the Pakistani equivalent of Said Qutb, founder of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt and well known since 9/11 as the emeritus theorist of the Bin Ladenist school of jihadism.
The Islamic Foundation sells and translates Maududi’s works to British Muslims.
Sacranie could not well argue that the MCB has “no control” over the Islamic Foundation because the Islamic Foundation was instrumental in the founding of the MCB. And Professor Kurshid Ahmad, the Islamic Foundation’s chairman and rector, also vice president of Jamma’at Islami, calls it a “blessing” that Islam is a “revolutionary ideology.” You won’t find that on the MCB website, however.
It hardly helps, then, that Prince Charles has described the “prime focus” of the Islamic Foundation to be “the promotion of first-rate scholarship and learning,” of which the crown prince has evidently done little perusing. Indeed, cynical Islamists masquerading as spokesmen for all Muslims are only aided in their efforts by gullible or timid Westerners for whom a terrible day is being called insufficiently “multicultural.”
This is how anti-Semitic goons like Sheikh Subais get their passports stamped at Heathrow.
You are sick.If those people call for hatred, you are hatred itself. I think world got enough blood.
Enough blood? Perhaps, you ignorant goatherd. Enough bullets to solve the problem? Not a chance.
Obviously people in the highest levels of government have the information available to know who they are dealing with and what these people are espousing to their listeners.
This begs the question, why? I have no answer and once thought it must be oil, and now I am not so sure. Perhaps it is willfully blindness, or G_d forbid their hearts have been hardened.
Or they could be protecting their own kingdom, thinking that they will retain their power if they kowtow to another power, and that power will stay within a certain border. I don’t know how much longer the citizens will put up with it. On one hand they are calling for our young people to fight and die to battle the very ideology that they seem to throw out the red carpet for.
Soon there will be nothing to fight for, no one willing to do so, and their kingdoms will be lost anyway despite centuries of appeasement. It makes no sense anymore. It seems we are spinning in circles, fighting off the enemy while inviting him into our homes and apologizing for OUR behavior. It is us who seems schizophrenic and they focused. This is senseless.
Islam has no problem with us infidels as long as we practice dhimmitude.
The reason there’s no thread here is because the debate over this subject is finished in the West. We have seen up close and personal in the last twenty years what Islam is. No one’s mind needs to be made up, no one is even thinking about it. It’s like writing a piece on Stilton cheese: it is what it is and no one is in doubt what to do with it.
People ask why. Constantly. They ask because they are absolutely nonplussed. It is beyond all rationality that the power brokers of the West do such stupid self destructive things. CONSTANTLY. It can not be understood or explained outside the spiritual guidance of God’s Word.
The hearts of our leaders have been hardened just as was Pharoh’s. The Prince of the Power of the Air has once again gained preeminence over the heart’s of mankind. We were warned it would be like this.
Religion of peace………….my **s.
So the hate-spewing Islamist is admitted but Michael Savage is barred entry. The world turned upside down indeed.
# 6 Scott,
Agreed.
Those within the secular European Union await their Superman to rule the world. Islam worships allah,(aka the god Sin).
Moon god worship is older than Sun worship. The horns of the bull,(the crescent moon), and the morning Star,(Lucifer), is part of the New Age religion. There, one will find the false Trinity.
The Queen of Heaven,(the Sun), Lucifer’s son Superman or allah,(the crescent moon, and the symbol for Lucifer the morning star,(Venus).
Islam already has two of the three symbols within the New Age religion, and worships a false god. The crescent moon, and Venus. Therefore, it is accepted by the New World Order, or those who follow the New Age. They know Islam is like them, and believe Islam can be moved to accept the Queen of Heaven.
Why does the West allow the continued growing of Islam, and let individuals like the Saudi cleric inside it’s borders? Because, Islam is accepted within the Global Tower of Babel. Christians, and Jews are to be hated for their hate speech.
Speech that goes against the New Age false religion/s.
“Cats and dogs, living togather… TOTAL ANARCHY!”
That said, only a ma’roon would let terrorist enablers into their country. The one thing an open civilized culter can not allow is for violent bigots apposed to your very existance to live among you.
This is typical conservative contrivances. Imam Bari just wishes to dialogue and express his faith, including views on the Jews…I mean, Zionists, and their religious ‘struggles (aka ‘jihad.’)as Islamic and Arab people. In modern Britain, all views are legitimate and no singular view can be allowed to have hegemony over the others. It is horrible the way some views were treated in the past and it is hopeful and comforting see culture and worldviews such as Islam and national socialism take their place with equality at the table ofwestern thinking. If we were as open-minded sixty years ago as we are now, we could have likely avoided the whole war mess thingy and even held on to good old Edward the VIII. What a shame that was.
Yes, there are those who refuse to learn that double standards are opposed to justice. The raging Son of Allah gives eloquent testimony to that. For, the Sons of Allah fear what they dish
out will be dished out to them, and they employ circular logic to explain themselves.
For instance, why at the end of the Korean conflict the economies of Egypt and South Korea were roughly the same size. But, today, that is hardly the case. The answer given: because we have to spend lots on the military to defend ourselves from Israel. Which raised the question
which was not answered: why would Israel invade.
At the other end, an Israeli soldier was given a
jail sentence of 7 and a half years, for stealing
a credit card from an Arab resident of Gaza, and
using it to make withdrawals.
As long as the standard that the Israeli soldiers
are held to by its military is different than the
standard South Syrian Arabs holds its military to, we will see more of the same.
Islam is as Islam does and there is no such thing as a moderate Muslim, moderate Muslims are those who dont really follow Islam just some benign but misleading image of it that they have been sold by duplicitous recruiters or Imams. True Islam is in the Koran and in the example of the life of Mohammad and in this book and the sahih Hadith you will find apart from tedious repetitive nonsense misogyny, antisemitism, violence and Arab supremacism. The so called peaceful verses from the Medina period are canceled out by the Islamic sanctioned principle of abrogation by the violent world domination by any means verses of the Meccan period. They have also painted themselves in to a corner by declaring the Koran to be the ‘actual UNALTERABLE word of Gaod’ thus rendering any attempt at reformation absolutely impossible. There is only one solution to Islam and that is to resist it appeasement only makes the monster more arrogant and greedy.
#11
DR.LUMPLEVIN
I’m certain you can justify your obvious pride in the
accomplishments of Neville Chamberlain !!!
77/88
S.M.
Now the Brits have lectured white SAcans on the goodness and superiority of multiculturalism during the Apartheid days… and they were right. It is a wonderful thing, and South Africa is today a prosperous state with a beneficent government and stable economy! We have a diverse multiracial state with 11 languages and dozens of peoples and religions living in peace!
It is now high time that the British themselves start to practice what they preached to South Africa, and stop their oppression of minorities, be it Muslims or Blacks. These people are legitimate British citizens, and they have a right to argue their point of view in the British debate. If they want Shariah, then they can argue for it, and if they prevail in that debate, then that is what Britain will have. The portrayal of the Islamic Foundation as a hotbed of extremists is wrong; there are many honourable people involved in it, who wants the best for themselves and for the people of their culture and faith.
The arguments that Muslims be kept from Britain, or be deported, or be denied immigration visas should be understand for what it is: racism in the same way that South Africa practiced by trying to keep Blacks in the Bantustans away from her cities and “white areas”.
Since the anti-apartheid movement in Britain was so big and so successful, I would fully expect Britain not to practice apartheid against Muslim minorities, but to accommodate them and their points of view in the diverse society that is Britain today. In that way we will have peace, and our journey to Left Wing Utopia will have advanced yet another small but important step.
#15 JVR,
Islam is not a race. One can not be racist against a religion, or political system.
Left Wing Utopia? Is that like Hitler’s Germany, or Stalin’s USSR?
You have no idea what you are writing. Do you?
JVR – The Muslims have 57 countries where they can practice Sharia law so there is no reason for them to impose their “great” ideas on other societies. You integrate to your new country or if you are not happy go back home. I think that it is a fair deal.
What a heap of steaming BS you write JVR South Africa the murder and mugging capital of the world (since the end of Apartheied0 just voted for a President who thinks AIDS can be treated by having a shower after sex LOL. Please tell me what apartheid is talking place in UK if you mean Mohammedans gathering together in one area and refusing to integrate with the indigenous population and trying to FORCE their culture on the country which has given them shelter then maybe you are correct. But can they live anywhere they want YES can they vote YES can they freely practice their religion YES can they preach HATE and VIOLENCE against their host Country YES and they DO. So tell us where the apartheid is I think your Mohammedan TAQIYYA is showing
Get out your whips, raise your fists, sharpen your swords and get ready for sharia westerners!!! Ladies cover yourself up, remind us your worth half as much by the symbol of shame! Remember the honor of the earth rides on your shoulder, and if you slip up, well we won’t talk about that right now.
JVR wants to give sharia a fair hearing, as if we in the west after battling barbarism for centuries, and after dealing with our own faults and foibles, we should look forward to debating it reintroduction to our world.
And don’t forget if you disagree with the example of Mohammad’s life, and you disagree with his teachings, and you disagree with the demands of his god, well your just a racist!
Freedom of speech? Sure as long as you say what Islam dictates. Freedom of religion? Sure as long as you acknowledge the superiority of Islam. Freedom for women? Sure as long as you agree your worth half as much.
Freedom? Sure.
Sayeed Abdul A’la Maududi is the most direct and unambiguous in his description of Islam’s ultimate aspirations:
“Islam is not a normal religion like the other religions in the world and Muslim nations are not like normal nations. Muslim nations are very special because they have a command from Allah to rule the entire world and to be over every nation in the world.”
“Islam wishes to destroy all States and Governments anywhere on the face of the earth which are opposed to the ideology and programme of Islam regardless of the country or the Nation which rules it. The purpose of Islam is to set up a State on the basis of its own ideology and programme, regardless of which Nation assumes the role of the standard bearer of Islam or the rule of which nation is undermined in the process of the establishment of an ideological Islamic State.”
“Islam is a revolutionary faith that comes to destroy any government made by man. Islam doesn’t look for a nation to be in a better condition than another nation. Islam doesn’t care about the land or who owns the land. The goal of Islam is to rule the entire world and submit all of mankind to the faith of Islam. Any nation or power that gets in the way of that goal, Islam will fight and destroy. In order to fulfill that goal, Islam can use every power available every way it can be used to bring worldwide revolution. This is Jihad.”
You just have to use [/sarcasm] tags on the internut JVR. Folks are dense.
JVR,
You simply have to use [/sarcasm] tags on the internut. Folks are dense.
The Chief Rabbi Dr Sacks is a disgrace, he should resign and go become an Imam of Al-Masjid al-Ḥarām under the authority of his pal the Jew hating Sheikh Doctor Abdul Rahman Ibn Abdul Aziz as-Sudais an-Najdi Imam of Al-Masjid al-Ḥarām.
Rowan Williams – Resign!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gN4lqnJjlvw
My view is that the British Jewish community should kick Sacks out of his job and invite The Rt Revd Dr Benjamin Kwashi to be Chief Rabbi, he might not be Jewish but he is a lot nearer to the core values of Judaism than the dreadful Sacks person.