Do you see the EPA there or any other form of regulatory body mentioned? Nowhere in the Constitution is there a fourth branch of government. I know full well what the Congress had done. They have basically and unconstitutionally handed over power to independent agencies to legislate. That is because they are too lazy to do so and do not want to take the heat for positions that the public does not want. That was the entire point I was making. You Mr. Floospin remind of the frogs in the water that keeps getting increasingly hot. Because the frogs would rather stay in the water, the remain there only to get boiled alive. We are in the same predicament. We are allowing our freedoms to slowly evaporate as we get more and more comfortable with a destructive totalitarianism being imposed by this unconstitutional fourth branch of government. (And don’t tell me the Supreme Court found it constitutional; they also found Plessy vs. Ferguson constitutional at one time.)

Empty platitude much?

We in the the United States have been trying Communism and Socialism since the Plymith Colony two hundred years before Marx made his sales pitch for it. It never works. Living document law never works either. Somebody always figures out a way to use the courts for theft.

Liberty and Freedom work, that is why they are conservative. Calling people names is a protected right not a “hate crime” so the trueth can be spoken no mater how repelant. It appears that after Obama we need to add the Federal Reserve System to the Liberal pile and go back to the gold standard that worked from 1789 until 1913.

As I said Noreen, that very well may be true. But you are not conservative. You’d have to do some heavy digging to find a true conservative voice at PJM. By the way, I never mentioned Obama. Again, more proof that your simply parroting things you’ve heard, not thinking for yourself.

2. A hot zone will develop in the lower atmosphere, probable around the equator.
In the late 1990s the disagreement between the surface temperature record and the satellite records was a subject of research and debate. The lack of warming then seen in the records was noted. A report by the National Research Council that reviewed upper air temperature trends stated: “Data collected by satellites and balloon-borne instruments since 1979 indicate little if any warming of the low- to mid-troposphere—the atmospheric layer extending up to about 5 miles from the Earth’s surface. Climate models generally predict that temperatures should increase in the upper air as well as at the surface if increased concentrations of greenhouse gases are causing the warming.”
3. There is no certainty in this science.
NASA bureaucrat James Hansen, who has been making a pretty penny by helping Al Gore prop up the global warming hoax, is a veteran of the global cooling hoax popular in the 1970s.
4. We’ve been here before.
Analysis of ice cores from the Antarctic ice cap (2) have shown that over the last half million years, there have been sudden and repetitive powerful surges of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere about every 100,000 years, with rapid de-glaciation, followed then by re-glaciation in long cooling periods.
(2) Science, June 6, (2006) pp1454; A.V. Federov, P.S. Dekens et al, The Pliocene Paradox, Science, Vol. 312, June 9, (2006) pp1485-89; D.R. MacAyeal, Dept. Geophysical Sciences, Univ. of Chicago, http://www.Geosci.uchicago.edu

Please use real facts when presenting Warmonger Debates. Your old ones are all used up!

As I said earlier, please excuse my psychotic ramblings,;I often post as Phranc.