Comments on: Conservatives Win In Canada http://pjmedia.com/blog/canadians-go-to-the-polls/ Wed, 15 Feb 2012 16:37:08 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Old& Grouchy http://pjmedia.com/blog/canadians-go-to-the-polls/#comment-130141 Old& Grouchy Sat, 18 Oct 2008 23:21:38 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=35864#comment-130141 Marc Malone. for your info 50% of your oil comes from the Alberta tar sands. Are you sure you want to close it down? Marc Malone. for your info 50% of your oil comes from the Alberta tar sands. Are you sure you want to close it down?

]]> By: David W. Lincoln http://pjmedia.com/blog/canadians-go-to-the-polls/#comment-127727 David W. Lincoln Fri, 17 Oct 2008 16:27:11 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=35864#comment-127727 Chris, then what about this: those who say that that the political arena is only about politics are accused of being narrow minded. Let them stew over that, and then begin to articulate a new vision, rather than using the same tools that all other parties have used - and we wind up with more of the same. It can be done, and frankly Harper and others deserve to be pummelled like they were at freedominion.ca over Section 13. BTW, the thought occurred to me: the "gaff" about arts funding cuts and justice for those under 18 was a manoeuvre to weaken the Liberals. After all, a Tory majority would have given them more time to recover. Chris, then what about this: those who say that that the political arena is only about politics are accused of being narrow minded. Let them stew over that, and then begin to articulate a new vision, rather than using the same tools that
all other parties have used – and we wind up with
more of the same.

It can be done, and frankly Harper and others deserve to be pummelled like they were at freedominion.ca over Section 13.

BTW, the thought occurred to me: the “gaff” about
arts funding cuts and justice for those under 18
was a manoeuvre to weaken the Liberals. After all, a Tory majority would have given them more time to recover.

]]> By: JimCap http://pjmedia.com/blog/canadians-go-to-the-polls/#comment-127149 JimCap Thu, 16 Oct 2008 23:10:06 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=35864#comment-127149 Yeah, but these guys are about as "conservative" as Bernie Sanders! They won't abolish socialized medicine; they won't abolish day care subsidies; they won't abolish so many of the socialist programs up in Canada. They even admit, publicly, that they would never do these things. These guys are phony conservatives. Who cares if they win or lose? Canada remains extremely left no matter what. Yeah, but these guys are about as “conservative” as Bernie Sanders! They won’t abolish socialized medicine; they won’t abolish day care subsidies; they won’t abolish so many of the socialist programs up in Canada. They even admit, publicly, that they would never do these things. These guys are phony conservatives. Who cares if they win or lose? Canada remains extremely left no matter what.

]]> By: Chris http://pjmedia.com/blog/canadians-go-to-the-polls/#comment-127102 Chris Thu, 16 Oct 2008 21:48:24 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=35864#comment-127102 David - I agree on all your points. I'd also like to toss in CBC, Native Affairs, and a host of other things. But a new party won't work; if you come to people with the notion that basically they should be responsible for their own affairs, they'll just look embarrassed & call the guys in the white coats. Reform tried that a decade or so ago.(*) Getting Canada to the current state it's in has been a long slide, and it's going to take a long time to get it out. If you figure it takes 15-20 years to bring an individual from total dependence to adulthood, how long will it take 30 million of them? lol... *that reminded me of a neat party trick that still works, out least out here on the east coast. I've got all the "creds" of an ndipper - artist/mathematician/single parent - so folks seem to think I like to hear rants about how horrible (insert favourite target here) is. Let them get really wound up, and then smile & pull out the Tory membership card and watch the reaction. Always good for a laugh, at the very least. (The Reform card worked even better, but alas). David – I agree on all your points. I’d also like to toss in CBC, Native Affairs, and a host of other things. But a new party won’t work; if you come to people with the notion that basically they should be responsible for their own affairs, they’ll just look embarrassed & call the guys in the white coats. Reform tried that a decade or so ago.(*) Getting Canada to the current state it’s in has been a long slide, and it’s going to take a long time to get it out. If you figure it takes 15-20 years to bring an individual from total dependence to adulthood, how long will it take 30 million of them? lol…

*that reminded me of a neat party trick that still works, out least out here on the east coast. I’ve got all the “creds” of an ndipper – artist/mathematician/single parent – so folks seem to think I like to hear rants about how horrible (insert favourite target here) is. Let them get really wound up, and then smile & pull out the Tory membership card and watch the reaction. Always good for a laugh, at the very least. (The Reform card worked even better, but alas).

]]> By: David W. Lincoln http://pjmedia.com/blog/canadians-go-to-the-polls/#comment-126811 David W. Lincoln Thu, 16 Oct 2008 16:18:59 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=35864#comment-126811 Chris, the Tories will not touch section 13, just like the Democrats will not touch abortion. Frankly, there are differences between what is still common sense, and what Stephen Harper and cohorts have done (and what they plan to do). I'm in favour of a new political party that would take a stronger stance in defending free speech, cut out wasteful spending by Ottawa (for God knows it is needed), put the UN out of its misery, and send a clear message to the likes of Al Gore, Maurice Strong, and David Suzuki that politicized science is debased science. Chris, the Tories will not touch section 13, just like the Democrats will not touch abortion.

Frankly, there are differences between what is still common sense, and what Stephen Harper and cohorts have done (and what they plan to do).

I’m in favour of a new political party that would take a stronger stance in defending free speech, cut out wasteful spending by Ottawa (for
God knows it is needed), put the UN out of its misery, and send a clear message to the likes of Al Gore, Maurice Strong, and David Suzuki that politicized science is debased science.

]]> By: Cynthia http://pjmedia.com/blog/canadians-go-to-the-polls/#comment-126348 Cynthia Thu, 16 Oct 2008 02:54:42 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=35864#comment-126348 I am a Canadian living in NY state. I mailed in my ballot for Steven Harper. They sent it to me so late that I had to pay 23.00 in postage! Maybe they knew that we headed for America because Canada was drifting so left of center. Harper is a decent politician and I think his gain of 18 seats is part of a trend towards conservatism in North America. I am a Canadian living in NY state. I mailed in my ballot for Steven Harper. They sent it to me so late that I had to pay 23.00 in postage! Maybe they knew that we headed for America because Canada was drifting so left of center. Harper is a decent politician and I think his gain of 18 seats is part of a trend towards conservatism in North America.

]]> By: fred http://pjmedia.com/blog/canadians-go-to-the-polls/#comment-126263 fred Wed, 15 Oct 2008 23:29:00 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=35864#comment-126263 Obamabots to Canadians: We are The Borg. You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile. Obamabots to Canadians:

We are The Borg. You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile.

]]> By: Chris http://pjmedia.com/blog/canadians-go-to-the-polls/#comment-126089 Chris Wed, 15 Oct 2008 18:26:41 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=35864#comment-126089 David Lincoln - It's going to take a long time to undo Section 13. But Steyn did win his case, mostly by ridiculing it and the Commission (and he continues lampooning it by asking the authors of the case to appeal). But more importantly, both Levant and Steyn are taking the fight directly to CHRC, seeing if they can force the heavy hand of the Commission. (Check Levant's blog post, http://ezralevant.com/2008/08/i-have-been-hit-with-another-h.html, for an example ). jvon - As for whether or not conservative Americans will move to Canada if Obama wins - probably not. Most Americans I know are in it for the long haul, know Obamamania shall too eventually pass, and (once again) they'll have to assist in cleaning up the mess. OTOH, I do know quite a few who are moving significant portions of their money here, as Canadian dollar is cheap these days, and the banks are in (modestly) good shape. David Lincoln – It’s going to take a long time to undo Section 13. But Steyn did win his case, mostly by ridiculing it and the Commission (and he continues lampooning it by asking the authors of the case to appeal). But more importantly, both Levant and Steyn are taking the fight directly to CHRC, seeing if they can force the heavy hand of the Commission. (Check Levant’s blog post, http://ezralevant.com/2008/08/i-have-been-hit-with-another-h.html, for an example ).

jvon – As for whether or not conservative Americans will move to Canada if Obama wins – probably not. Most Americans I know are in it for the long haul, know Obamamania shall too eventually pass, and (once again) they’ll have to assist in cleaning up the mess. OTOH, I do know quite a few who are moving significant portions of their money here, as Canadian dollar is cheap these days, and the banks are in (modestly) good shape.

]]> By: Kurt http://pjmedia.com/blog/canadians-go-to-the-polls/#comment-126016 Kurt Wed, 15 Oct 2008 17:10:46 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=35864#comment-126016 Fantom, I live in northern Nevada. And my polling place is inside of a welfare office. I'm not kidding. It has been inside of a welfare office for the four plus years I've lived at my current residence. (This fact didn't keep Bush from winning Nevada in 2004, though my normally Republican-voting county was closer than expected. This year the registered Democrats have edged Republicans in the county.) Fantom, I live in northern Nevada. And my polling place is inside of a welfare office. I’m not kidding. It has been inside of a welfare office for the four plus years I’ve lived at my current residence. (This fact didn’t keep Bush from winning Nevada in 2004, though my normally Republican-voting county was closer than expected. This year the registered Democrats have edged Republicans in the county.)

]]> By: David W. Lincoln http://pjmedia.com/blog/canadians-go-to-the-polls/#comment-125981 David W. Lincoln Wed, 15 Oct 2008 16:24:53 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=35864#comment-125981 I see that Lorne D. Thomson did not touch on the persecution of Ezra Levant, Mark Steyn, and others, thanks to the Orwellian Section 13 of the Canadian Human Rights Code. There is a forum called freedominion.com and the Harper-lead Conservatives were villified for not lifting a finger to correct that wrong. Also, when money goes to biofuels as well as the agricultural section (not to mention other sections), the most conservative a government could be under current circumstances would be what Nixon had. (And this would be too right wing by the crowd known by this statement, "Damn Americans, I hate the bastards!") I see that Lorne D. Thomson did not touch on the persecution of Ezra Levant, Mark Steyn, and others, thanks to the Orwellian Section 13 of the Canadian Human Rights Code.

There is a forum called freedominion.com and the Harper-lead Conservatives were villified for
not lifting a finger to correct that wrong.

Also, when money goes to biofuels as well as the agricultural section (not to mention other
sections), the most conservative a government could be under current circumstances would be what Nixon had. (And this would be too right wing by the crowd known by this statement, “Damn
Americans, I hate the bastards!”)

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