California Lawsuit Alleges FBI Violation of Muslim Rights
The new strategy of those supporting radical Muslim elements is to put “politically correct” pressure on the FBI while at the same time distracting it with frivolous lawsuits. A recent lawsuit in Los Angeles is a perfect example of how the FBI’s reputation is being distorted, say former agents interviewed by Pajamas Media.
A lawsuit filed this year by the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) of Southern California and the Los Angeles office of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) alleges that former FBI informant Craig Monteilh violated Muslims’ freedom of religion. Monteilh infiltrated Orange County mosques from 2006 to 2007, recording conversations and meetings. The plaintiffs claim that “the FBI did not gather the information based on suspicion of criminal activity, instead it gathered the information simply because the targets were Muslim.”
All those interviewed by PJM vehemently disagree with this claim. FBI spokeswoman Laura Eimiller has emphasized that the Bureau is not in the business of targeting groups or individuals based on their religion. To understand this position, Craig Dotlo, a former FBI agent, explained that:
[A]nytime an agent directs an informant or cooperating witnesses to penetrate a mosque or other religious institution, the agent is required to articulate there is reasonable suspicion that criminal activity is occurring. The reason the FBI would go into a mosque is to investigate a possible crime, not because of someone’s religion.
Other former agents insist that there must be a “predication” that a crime has been or will be committed.
This has been the FBI’s practice for decades, as they infiltrated the Ku Klux Klan, organized crime, the drug cartels, or any group that poses a threat to Americans. Since the 1970s, new rules have been imposed. Agents have to fill out a lengthy questionnaire and obtain the approvals of a supervisor, an assistant special agent in charge, as well as a Department of Justice attorney. The use of an informant must be approved by a high level authority after reviewing the informant’s background.
What should American Muslims suggest the FBI do, considering Homeland Security Department Secretary Janet Napolitano and the director of the National Counterterrorism Center have stated that the new type of threat is a self-radicalized, homegrown lone wolf? This lawsuit by CAIR and the ACLU appears to be a fishing expedition to find out what information the FBI has, to identify who the FBI sees as targets of the investigation, and to make the FBI more risk-averse.
Because some of the evidence is classified, the FBI is not able to go public and present the facts and its side of the story. The expectation is that the FBI, as a domestic intelligence service, should be able to predict threats before they take place. This sentiment is echoed by Congressman Peter King (R-NY), who recently stated that “I don’t believe there is sufficient cooperation by American Muslims with law enforcement.”
The lawsuit goes on to allege that “this dragnet investigation did not result in even a single conviction related to counterterrorism.” This statement is only true on its face value because evidence was gathered that can possibly be used in a future investigations. For example, Ahmadullah Niazi, a member of the Irvine mosque who is the brother-in-law of Osama bin Laden’s former bodyguard, was arrested on charges he lied about ties to terrorist groups on citizenship and passport papers.
“The plaintiffs claim that “the FBI did not gather the information based on suspicion of criminal activity, instead it gathered the information simply because the targets were Muslim.”
So, what’s your point?
How many suicide bombing attacks have been carried out by Mormons? How many planes have been flown into buildings by Catholics? How many plots to either blow up or kill more Americans right here in the United States have been carried out by Methodists? And how many religions actively call for the elimination of Jews, Israel, and just about anybody else that doesn’t believe in what they believe in? Are they Lutherins, Protestants, or those Buddhists? No, none of them?
Sorry, folks, it’s the Muslims. Muslims today have one of the worst public relations problems in the world and people like CAIR certainly don’t help matters AT ALL. So, until the killing on the part of the Muslims stops, NOBODY should question why Muslims are feared, distrusted, and worse, hated. They have A LOT of work to do to repair their image, if they still can and if the true radicals in their midst will allow that to happen.
I agree. This is about cair silencing thoes who call them on their BS. IF these groups cared about peace they would be more upset about alqueda and would activly fight them. But they dont. they just dont want peeps giving away the plan. Personally Im sick of hearing about muslime being treated “unfairly” if they cant understand whats happening, they they dont deserve protection and they are the problem.
You have GOT to be kidding. Continuing to think that there are “Muslims”, and “Radical Muslims” is a HUGE mistake. Answer this question … which of these groups read, study, and follow the Quran?
Surely, one of these two groups do that … right? Well, let me fill you in: BOTH read, study, and FOLLOW the Quran. And if you’ve read ANY part of it, you should know that a MUSLIM is dedicated to KILLING EVERY SINGLE PERSON that is an “Infidel”. Definition of an “Infidel”, if you don’t know .. is EVERYBODY who is NOT Muslim.
So, keep talking about the “good” Muslims, and the “Radical” Muslims. You’re just wasting time … and ignoring the REAL issue. ALL MUSLIMS plan on taking over the world with their Religion (which is only part of it) … implementing Sharia Law … and instilling their way of life throughout the world. Ignoring that, is only helping them to do it.
I have a suggestion to CAIR and other Mb undercover organizations – instead of complaining about the FBI activity, please join the counter terrorism efforts and help the FBI reveal radical Muslims. If you believe that Islam is the religion of peace you have nothing to worry about – if you are part of the big radical Islam conspiracy continue to interrupt the FBI’s job!!!
The CAIR is in place for one reason. To keep people from asking questions about Islam and it’s followers.
Don’t worry. When Jaime Gorelick becomes the First Woman Director Of The FBI (a historic event!), she’ll make it all better.
Since she, like Napolitano and The One, believe that there is no such thing as an Islamist terrorist, she will concentrate the Bureau’s resources on the real threat- domestic terrorists. (You know, people who don’t believe The One is the Messiah?)
She’ll send agents to gun shows, and tea party meetings, and GOP state committee get-togethers; all the places these dangerous radicals congregate. And when she finds them, they will face the most extreme penalties! (She may even send them to Gitmo, after The One has released all the poor unfortunates held there now for the crime of being Muslim.)
And any FBI agent boorish enough to show her evidence of any illegal activity by an Islamist group will be stripped of their badge and sidearm and out the door of Fort Hoover so fast they’ll leave a sonic boom in their wake. Such wrong-headed thinking and behavior Will Not Be Tolerated.
Because Ms. Brick In The Wall knows, in her heart of hearts, that there is No Such Thing as an Islamic terrorist. Just Americans who are mean, stupid, bigoted, and cling to guns and religion in their desperate efforts to resist the inevitable tide of Enlightenment she and her deity, The One, bring.
CAIR and ACLU don’t need to worry. There’s a new day dawning at the FBI. And all the Right-Thinking People will be in charge from now on.
/If you can’t tell that all of the above is sarcasm, I give up.
clear ether
eon
Beautiful. Perfect. Well said.
You’re an idiot. You could make your point better, and more mature sounding if you didn’t use terms like “The One”.
State you opinion or stfu
you are correct. He refers to obama and should use ‘the one’ instead of ‘The One’.
He was referring to Obama? I thought he was referring to a block of wood with eyes that moves and talks but is not alive.
Tommy Boy, spoken like a true illiberal. Drawing your OWN conclusions rather than reading poster ‘Eon’ post in its entirety.
Don’t fret, T-Dog. I believe huffpo has some ‘wonderful’ fiction passing as ‘news’ right now.
By the way, how’s that AOL stock faring nowadays? hahahaha
Your reply makes YOU the Idiot! If you can’t disagree and be civil about it ? Then you have no biz being here!
Tom;
Look up the definition of “sarcasm” in the dictionary. Also, be aware that “The One, “The Messiah”, “the Lightworker”, etc., are all terms that have been applied to Mr. Obama by his supporters going back to when he first began talking about running for President. (Not to mention talking about “healing the planet”, “making the oceans stop rising”, etc., etc.)
I don’t normally engage in anything resembling humor. But if somebody’s own crowd speaks of them in hyperbolic terms, they- and their supporters- have no grounds to complain if somebody else takes them at their word.
cheers
eon
Eon: Nice shot!
Your comment is right on the money!!!!!!!!!!
So; Is communism (the ACLU) sympathetic to militant Islam now? I’m betting the ACLU has an app. for that.
Not to give them any ideas, but I’m surprised that the DOJ is not in on this suit.
It is the epitome of irony (not to mention hypocrisy) that the muslims keep insisting that THEY are the aggrieved party in the War on Terror.
David, take this as a truism; any time conservatives are accused of something the accuser is guilty of what they accuse.
(BTW, exactly like my ex- wife…)
“By overburdening the FBI with these ridiculous lawsuits those American Muslims are hindering the Bureau from carrying out its responsibilities to protect Americans.”
It is not as if the FBI agents whom would be investigating terrorist threats will be defending themselves in the court of law, they have government attorneys to do such things. If it is as super clear cut as you make it out to be then it will not even go to trial. There will be very little burden placed on the FBI agents themselves. To ensure our law is being upheld it is worth the hour or so out of those agents time. Law suits are the best way to make sure the Government is in check.
BrianN. You are wrong on every point. Last point first: Law suits are the least effecient way to keep the government in check (shows where your political underpinnings are); the Bill of Rights esp. the 2nd Amendment keep the government in check. Second, just like the propsed Gitmo trials the jihadist-loving progressives want to expose our secrets and intimidate our troops by purposely bring them into court. Third, the commies want a show trial so that they can do their best to humiliate, expose, threaten and then undermine our defenses by exposing them to your friends-jihadists. Lastly, all the burden will be placed on agents on purpose to defend their tactics, discovery and arrest procedures.
Tool.
#7 – Brian….finally, someone who has a brain. # 8 Blotto…your reference to the 2nd ammendment as a method to keep the gov’t in check could be considered a threat. Your comment about “jihadist loving progressives” shows that you are radical, right-wing dipshit who likes to lump everyone who doesn’t agree with you into one group. Oops…did I just do the same…yes…I guess I did…all radical right wingers are dipshits. You undermine our defenses by taking this assinine view that Americans are the only people who do right in the World, when in fact, that is far from the truth You did get one thing right though…you signed off as “Tool”. That….we both agree on….that you are a Tool
Tom, take your offal to Kos or Huff. We’re all tapped out to buy this B.S.
Ohhhhhhhhh! Did someone investigate my little baby? There, there. Don’t cry, let mommy hug you.
Someone talked about you? Did they look at you too? In the eyes? Don’t worry, the bad mens will go away and hide in a magic cloud we make with plastic Playdough™ and cell phones.
Mosques in Orange County, eh? Many of the communities in Orange County is for all intents and purposes THEE speck of ‘Conservatism’ in uber- Illiberal SoCal.
If this occurred in nearby armpit/L.A. County then it’d be more ‘shocking’.
The only right an Islamic has and that is to get the hell out of this country. C.A.I.R. is nothing more than a bluff and smoke screen to keep people uneducated of the truth about the cult of hate, rape, murder and child molestation by the followers of Islam! Those followers of that cult believe that you are not a human being, you can be killed like a dog in the street, you or your family can be raped, cheated, lied to and you can’t do anything against them since YOU ARE LOWER THAN AN ANIMAL to them. They are told it is basically a virtue to lie to non-believers, so when any of them try to tell you that Islam is Peace, call them a liar to their face!
It’s all about the discovery phase.
What happened to these people our government servants? They all took an oath to protect and defend this country from domestic or foreign enemies. The last time I checked Islam is a form of government not a religion. Islam has sworn an oath to destroy America replace our Constitution with sahria law. So that gives our law enforcement people not only the right but their obligation to protect us from muslim lies. Even with infiltrating their mosques, we have done this with every group who have threaten our way of life. If they do not have anything to hide CAIR should be opening its doors to make new converts, instead they are closing their doors. Why got something to hide???
I’m a little surprised that the ACLU has sunk to climbing in bed with an (unindited) terrorist organization.
Since certain precepts of the religion of Islam are based on the concept of Sharia Law, which are antipodal to the basic tenets guaranteed by our Constitution, it should be a “no brainer” that our law enforcement agencies have a duty to protect its citizens from our enemies both foreign and domestic.
Interesting. As an OC resident, FBI doesn’t need to even worry themselves about going to mosques and taping verbal sessions, all they need to is give this volunteer a shopping list mosques and I’d be more than happy to attend and tape.