Comments on: Bush Was Right to Show Mercy on Ramos and Compean

By: c.gray

c.gray — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:27:24 +0000

I don’t know what the problem is here.

The _problem_ is that two cops shot a fleeing suspect in the back and left him to die in the desert, failed to report the shooting to their supervisor and took steps to cover up the fact a shooting had taken place, then encouraged their fellow officers to lie about the incident and assist in a coverup.

The two effectively ADMITTED all of this to investigators before they were charged.

The two are a disgrace. But not as large a disgrace as the people who keep trying to hold these men up as victims of some sort of politically motivated conspiracy, or the President who pandered to the anti-immigrant fanatics who’ve made them a cause.

By: Pat Patterson

Pat Patterson — Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:13:42 +0000

zeezil-Can you add anything factual to the mix other than you think that the border should be declared a free fire zone except for all those UTEP students drinking in Juarez? Active steps? Do you mean like shooting someone in the back?

By: zeezil

zeezil — Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:17:19 +0000

The government is upside down when illegal immigration is not only tolerated but facilitated and token efforts at enforcement is done to throw a bone to American patriots that insist laws be enforced. Then, when two Border patrol agents actually take active steps to thwart an illegal alien drug runner invader, they get prosecuted.

By: Pat Patterson

Pat Patterson — Tue, 27 Jan 2009 01:50:15 +0000

Rene Sanchez is a BP agent in Arizona and it was his mother-in-law that Davilia’s mother called to complain about the shooting. This Sanchez acting on hearsay evidence, which is inadmissable in court, learned of the unreported incident. The Department of Homeland Security and the Inspector General’s Office sent FBI Special Agent Christopher Sanchez to investigate who only knew for sure the day and location of the, at that time rumored, shooting. Sanchez in his testimony revealed that he thought the report was bogus as many of the shooting claims along the border were until he began interviewing the other BP agents.

The claim that both agents were placed in solitary confinement again is contradicted by the facts. Normal policy of the BOP is to isolate those prisoners if they are in danger. But the two ex-agents were both asked and had to sign written releases. Compean asked to be segregated while Ramos did not. But after a while Ramos did not feel safe and asked in writing to be housed apart from the general prison population.

This is tedious, there were two other witnesses, both BP agents who saw the shooting so Davila was indeed important but he certainly was not the star witness. That was Agents Vasquez and Juarez while the other witness who testified was also an agent Jose Mendoza testified later that he was shown the casings and Ramos admitted that he had “…probably” shot the smuggler. And yet the two agents still did not file a shooting or an incident report which they were required to do. It’s only “sketchy” if you believe in the tooth fairy and don’t take a minimum of time to actually check the court case or the appelate cases.

As to the attempt at humor perhaps this quote from Compean might help. “My intent was to kill the alien becuase I thought he had a gun, but I never really saw for certain that he had a gun.” Which Compean now claimed after 30 days since the shooting after denying the shooting had even taken place. Soon after this Ramos tried to deny the bullet came from his gun but forgot that it had been held for safe keeping in Davila’s butt. Which was one of the reasons that the US Attorney had to make the immunity agreement with Davila as he could not be extradited.

By: jerry

jerry — Tue, 27 Jan 2009 00:18:40 +0000

I don’t know what the problem is here. The border should be closed up tight, and anyone who crosses should be shot. If we need the workers we should let them come though the regular ports of entry. It is shamful to have people we need have to sneak into the country over rivers and under fences. Anyone that does do this should be concidered a drug smuggler, a terrorist, or worse.

By: Americanwoman

Americanwoman — Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:25:29 +0000

Ruben Navarrette, if I may be so bold as to opine…has a general problem with those U.S. citizens who dare to remind him that there actually ARE immigration laws which are being ignored from the top down. His now predictably tainted journalistic attempts have emblazened him as a “raza-rouser” for years. He is boring. He never investigated this case any more than he had to, in order to write the left-wing blather for which he is known. Thank God Compean and Ramos soon will be free…a circumstance that our boy Rube never thought he would have to address. These guys will need time to heal…to regroup and recoup. Two bogus years in “protective” solitary confinement is tantamount to the TORTURE that so frightens libs. Eventually, I hope they take their cases back to court. The felony counts left in place by the former president should be removed from their records. Bush is a coward who has no idea what REALLY happened out there in the desert (or did he?). Oh! I forgot! Aldrete-Davila, the scum-bag STAR-WITNESS, SWEARS HE WAS JUST AN INNOCENT DRUG SMUGGLER, TRYING TO SCRAPE TOGETHER A LITTLE CASH FOR HIS GRAVELY ILL MOTHER…NO GUN…NO FORMER DELIVERIES…and of course, he wasn’t running SOUTH like a bat out of hell, either, when he turned and pointed that gum wrapper (?) at our border guards! Nacho Ramos could have killed the s.o.b., as he is a first-class marksman. I say, “Too bad he didn’t.” The other major witness, dirty BP agent, Rene Sanchez, was an in-law of Davila’s! And what about the BP Supervisors who were immediately on-scene? They sure know the truth. It’s a totally sketchy scenario. I suggest to all interested parties who would like to know the TRUTH, that they look into this case. It was a set-up from DAY ONE. NOTE: There’s more than ONE RECONQUISTA SUPPORTER on this blog. Is it any wonder that WE, THE PEOPLE are fed up with the wide-open borders and ports of America???
God help us now that the Obamarama regime is in place.

By: Pat Patterson

Pat Patterson — Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:15:24 +0000

Or perhaps they can read and are not gullible enough to believe unsourced rumors? Are you ignoring the testimony of the other two agents who witnessed the shooting are is that simply not amenable to believing that only Davila testified. Agent Juarez winessesed the entire incident and testified against the other agents. Another agent, Vasquez, arrived immediately after the shooting and was ordered by Compean to find 5 missing casings. Vasquez did so though in his depostion and at the trial knew that at that point he was participating in the coverup of a possible crime. And if you don’t think that is factual than find something more reliable then impugning the motives of anybody you disagree with.

By: zeezil

zeezil — Mon, 26 Jan 2009 19:41:55 +0000

I find it quite telling of those who accept the testimony of a Mexican cartel drug runner illegal alien over two Border Patrol agents. That tells me one of two things…they have an agenda or they lack character…possibly both.

By: Pat Patterson

Pat Patterson — Mon, 26 Jan 2009 08:33:28 +0000

So the testimony of the other two witnesses, both BP agents doesn’t count? The only mistake they made was to shoot and then lie about it as the court transcript and the testimony of the other two agents are very clear? They couldn’t convince a jury, a judge and two appelate courts.

It’s certainly not a matter of believing Davila was unarmed because neither agent made that claim until after their signed shooting reports and their depositions were taken. Why not say immediately that they thoght he was armed and not some 90 days later.

By: Mrs. Rodriguez

Mrs. Rodriguez — Mon, 26 Jan 2009 04:43:11 +0000

These two men are not guilty as sin. To believe that the drug dealer was unarmed, and that Ramos and Compean were lying, is to believe the criminal’s testimony. The only mistake these border patrol agents made was they didn’t shoot him dead.