Britain’s Already Dead, It Just Hasn’t Been Buried Yet
Don’t be fooled by the pomp and dazzle of the Queen’s royal Diamond Jubilee flotilla easing past the tourists, celebrity-spotters, and pickpockets on the Thames. Britain is a country rotting from the inside, the first nation on earth that elected to destroy its culture with political correctness.
Asks British columnist Rod Liddle, “Who are the people who have made Britain what it is today, the ones who ensured that we became a limp-wristed and decrepit, post-imperial satrapy of incompetence, sanctimony, self-obsession and self-loathing?”
Who indeed? (By limp-wristed, Liddle means lacking in conviction, not gay). The short answer is the new aristocracy, the bien pensant, well-shod, culturally aloof types who watch the BBC, read The Guardian, and vote to nudge the country ever farther along its current trajectory, which has not even slightly been altered by the return of a Conservative to the premiership. Against the wishes of the average citizen, Britain has a government that is simultaneously abdicating its core functions and pretending to take responsibility for other duties for which it is spectacularly ill-suited. It has abandoned a proud, concrete culture in pursuit of a hazy dream of a transnational ideal. The people’s response has been to fume lightly and do nothing, because they’re British and expect things to be bad and get worse.
A few days in London will quickly cure you of any notion that, for instance, New York is a chaotic city. It only barely rated notice in most of the media the other day when five of London’s 11 subway lines went down simultaneously at rush hour due to signal failures and train breakdowns. It was about 80 degrees at the time and most trains have no air conditioning. Subway unions are threatening a strike. And yet a glance at the national news sources, which are obsessed with the massacres in Syria, the Jubilee, the Olympics, and the never-ending Leveson Inquiry that vaguely promises a sinister new truth czar will be empowered to decide in advance which media stories can be published, turns up almost zero outrage at all of this.
The “respectable” media outlets don’t much bother with the latest outrages on the crime front, such as the fatal convenience-store stabbing that resulted in only a ten-year sentence for the assailant, who is expected to be free in four. Unleash a nutty racist tirade on the subway, though, and you stand in contempt of that BBC-transnational ideal of a multiculti wonderland. Judges will express no leniency whatsoever, handing out five month sentences for the crime of… speaking.
So the government can’t make the trains run on time or make people feel safe on the streets. (a friend who lived in New York for many years tells me of how, after moving to London, he witnessed a stabbing, called the police, and waited a number of minutes for them to arrive, by which time the perpetrators were long gone. The nearest police station was about 300 yards away, but the constabulary decided to send representatives from a farther one instead, lest they risk crossing paths with any violent criminals.)
Never let it be said the government is satisfied with this state of affairs; no, instead, it is advancing into brand new areas of incompetence. The prime minister has been boasting of his exciting plan to literally head a nanny state as he sets up, for new parents, an office to send texts, hold classes, and give “tiredness counseling.” (For a play-by-play of Britain’s collapse, consult the blogger-columnist Peter Hitchens, who, ever since writing The Abolition of Britain over a decade ago, invariably takes the most pessimistic imaginable view of things and yet is rarely wrong.)
not even a mention of the mustard cancer that will fill the multicult suicidal void.
Europe is finished. When it’s time to cleanse the earth of muslims, Europe will be a very nice cottage country for North Americans.
UK began dying when they opened their borders to TOO MANY Refugees with their HOPE of living off a GIVE AWAY Country like California THEN they being politically correct began allow Shara Law to rule certin areas – they will end up in Civil war if their remain any White UK people as many are RUSHING to CA Australia, New Zealand and canada
Well, Greece is dead. Britain is just necrotic.
If you let hippies run your world they will tell you that you are going green. They mean gangrene.
Pretty soon you start severing limbs to treat the creeping necrosis and the hippies tell you that you’re looking good…seem to be losing a bit of weight lately.
Small c communism is a flesh eating disease in a free market, Constitutional democracy founded upon Judeo-Christian laws, ethics, mores and beliefs.
The Soviets made the horrific mistake of making it a bully confrontation, expanding by force and THEN applying the propaganda and dismantling of nation after nation.
These clever fellows of recent vintage learned from the collapse of that beast. You dismantle and propagandize first, THEN seize by the throat. It avoids the recoil reflex and there is much less resistance by the strangled.
By getting the Propaganda and Lies Ministry to cover for you, you lead the fools around by the nose and actually get them to parrot your favorite words and phrases. They will call your Propaganda Ministry “mainstream”, they will call you “progressive” and “liberal” and “elite”. How lovely.
By the time you have collapsed their ability to fight they will already have surrendered their patriotism, their culture, their money, their economy, their military, their system of laws, their churches and their freedom to you.
Britain isn’t dead yet. It is being eaten alive from the inside.
cf, this is a brilliant, stellar piece of writing. You described it all perfectly and with great passion.
My grandparents were British. I had the good fortune on two separate occasions to travel with them to the “Merry Old” and it was there I learned firsthand about the natural toughness, stiff upper lip and durability of a Brit. Able to take it on the chin, again and again, yet still go about day-to-day tasks with a smile and some tea.
I listened to my granddad’s brothers talk of WWII and the hardships and the thrift and the stoicism. Ever since Rome whacked off a portion of the island for their own use, Brits and to an equal extent, Welsh, Scottish and Irish have that “You may beat me today, but I’ll outlast you in the end” kind of attitude.
They are known for a great deal of tolerance, actually. At least, the way I see it. Aside from political blunders and some despotic rulers, civilization managed to thrive there and grow and become a cradle for the industrial revolution, fantastic authors, some very noteworthy military actions and even their colonialism. After all, it produced the United States and we are more like them than we sometimes care to admit.
But there is an undercurrent of dissatisfaction. The natives grow restless and eventually, even the most lofty, effete elites will struggle with the monster they have created. It may take 100 years. Britain does evolve though.
For now, it’s all very sad and disappointing. Watching my cousins over there struggle and actually leave for places like Japan and Australia and other countries, to include the US, it breaks my heart that a citizen of a nation needs to leave their homeland to have a life worth living. But, even out of that, some wonderful goodness will come.
Maybe this is something the planet has to suffer through to eventually get to a point where humanity can actually function. I mean, in the millennial scale. I’ll never know but it does pique my curiosity.
You’re part of the problem. Think on this:
“If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.”
— Samuel Adams
Please explain your position. I’m against the UK going all socialist and if you got the message that I think it’s a good thing then you lack reading skills.
The parts that are inferred is that Britons will reach a point where it’s intolerable. Many are leaving now and many more will.
My supposition about it being an evolutionary process is as a “disinterested bystander” observing the whole thing wondering if humans have to go through this to get to another good part.
Yes, they’ve done it to themselves and we’re doing it to OURselves. I hate it. Always have. I don’t acquiesce very well and I don’t roll over and let them have their way with me.
So, again, how am I “part of the problem”.
It’s already intolerable but they’re in denial, looking on with unseeing eyes. What you mean to say is that they won’t get off their keisters until the Gulag is operational?? Is that what you mean?
Not exactly, but you’re close. Britons, as I pointed out and I guess I have to spell it out, have that kind of stoicism to a fault. It’s been portrayed in so many movies, I didn’t feel the need to point it out, though I’ll bet more than one fellow poster got the point.
It’s doubtful that gulags will dot the British landscape but I’m not so naive to say that it’ll never happen. But, along with Germany, the UK has been repeatedly slammed by the rest of the world for their past colonialism and arrogant attitude. Well, with success comes arrogance. France has been identified as such, as has Spain and Italy for their “time-in-the-sun” when they were on top. Then, there was the Dutch East India Trading Company which made bajillions in guilders while Lloyd’s made tons of sterling insuring their cargo. Capitalism writ large while still and all, millions suffered under British rule otherwise.
I’m not blind to it. I’m just saying the Brits have that stiff upper lip that often gets them into trouble. Was trying to say it without actually saying it. Remember Chamberlin and “peace in our time” while Goering was firing up the Messerschmitt and Heinkel factories. But there were some smart ones in Britain too who got the production for the Spitfire underway during all this posturing by national governments.
We had our own Charles Lindbergh going to Nazi Germany and praising their new air force and commending their socialist ways.
But he woke up, too and is said to have flown some P-38 missions in the Pacific.
I think, though, that civil unrest will come from the Britons in time. But as you pointed out, when? How bad does it have to get? Like that line from “Butch Cassidy, etc”, “Oh, for a moment there, I thought we were in trouble.”.
But remember, what’s intolerable to an American is quite comfortable to a Brit. They have hundreds of years of getting in line to follow a rule, not make a scene, obey and conform. I’m speaking in the ideological sense. Sure, some of them are thieves and don’t obey traffic signals, etc., but the vast majority LOVE rules. Sometimes the more the merrier. Order in things is the British way, but is sometimes coupled with that “obedient naivte’ ” which, again, as all have pointed out, gets them into trouble.
So by trying to be accommodating to other people “not British” which they have not had very good luck at, and looking at their history of oppression to others, they may feel a collective guilt, much the way certain white-people do here in the US about slavery. But they maybe are only now realizing that they went too far into the dark room.
As a member of the human race, I’m both interested and annoyed at the process.
Your analysis of the British disposition is very accurate. We are an extraordinarily tolerate people, who love to follow the rules and keep order and stability. We have had a stable Constitutional Monarchy for around 324 years and have not come near to revolution or fascism, unlike the European Continent. We are also one of the only few EU members to follow all of their crazy directives (that nobody asked for and the majority resent), because we believe in sticking to the rules.
Unfortunately, since signing up to the EEC in the 1970′s, government after government has stealthily ceded our sovereignty to an unelected group of bureaucrats in Brussels (the EU). This is facilitated in no small part by the connivance of the BBC, who have failed to report honestly on this loss of sovereignty, nor reflect on it (which is astonishing considering the unmitigated disaster the EU project is proving to be). They have also failed to speak out honestly about mass immigration. British politeness and tolerance have been exploited by Political Correctness to a MASSIVE extent.
We do not have freedom of speech any more in this country. The last Labour government essentially made it a criminal offence to criticise other races, to complain about mass immigration in a forthright manner, and to criticise Islam. Nobody, not least the British, likes unjust criticism of other races, but we have a situation of mass resentment brewing under the façade of polite conversation. Many parts of this nation are now unrecognisable and hostile towards the native Brits. The BBC fails to even acknowledge that there is such thing as a “native Brit”. According to a recent history programme by them we have always been multicultural and “Black people were here before the English”.
The history of the East India Company in reverse. Eventually small bands of ethnic Brits will sail away from a medieval country dominated by ethnic Hindus under the control of Muslims.
On the plus side, after Toynbee’s Fall, Interregnum, and Rise, when their descendants sail back from the New World to the Old about three or four centuries on, the British Isles will probably look a lot like India did in the late 15th Century AD.
And their ships will probably look a lot like Vasco da Gama’s did when he arrived at Calicut (now Kohzikode) in 1498. Or maybe Sir Francis Drake’s Golden Hind.
Right down to the sixteen-pounders on broadside. Versus (probably) bows and arrows, or at most onagers or springales.
You know, there just might be a novel in that, somewhere.
cheers
eon
I thought I’d as much as said “the British Isles will probably look a lot like India did in the late 15th Century AD.”
Yep, you did. But the new overlords will still have the infrastructure. For a while. Sort of like in the former African colonies.
Fifty years after the British left, most of them don’t even have potable water. I expect an “Eastern”-dominated Britain to take some time to reach Mughal Empire levels of incompetence at anything except playing Arabian Nights, but they’ll get there. Hence the timeframe.
cheers
eon
….thanks for saying that in that way….
This American work-permitted resident of Kowloon Tong for six years during the 1960′s remembers the taught reins of the Colonial Government and the rather disdainful-patronizing-at-the-same-time-acceptance of foreign commercial participation in truly laissez faire Colonial capitalism.
Admittedly, the times were very tough then, with the Red Chinese by the near billion mouths to feed just up the train tracks from Kowloon Station at Lo Wu, I think about two hours by commuter train, refugees swimming across wherever they could, six-million restless Chinese refugee-residents with a troublesome Nationalist faction muttering among themselves, and a Home Government trying hard to straddle East and West, British registered merchant ships calling at Haiphong, at the same time maintaining a healthy Western tourist industry arriving/departing at Kai Tak Airport where I worked.
Talk about fence straddling……
There was a desperate need then for a British Passport to get out of there. There was an equally efficient British effort preventing just that. Too, too many wanted to get out to the tight little island of England.
O.K. …..now multiply that by the overpopulated Caribbean Colonies, the overpopulated Indians and Pakistani’s from the former Raj, the Kenyans and others out of Africa, burrowing, infiltrating Muslims with extended families out of the near/Middle East, and, here we are in 2012 Britain.
The chickens have finally come home to roost.
Very, very sad…..a hollow Jubilee, indeed.
Clearly what Britain needs is a Mussolini-like figure to make the Tube run to young laddy Smith’s satisfaction. Those millions of Brits seeking asylum in America must be stopped at all costs.
He who drags out Mussolini, loses the argument.
Please try and make a better contribution next time.
Your only contribution is a tired internet meme. How about you do better?
Is it your position that Mussolini and other historical figures have no relevance in the current discussion? Do you actually think the “you brought up Mussolini so you’ve lost” argument has merit beyond an attempt to make certain subjects verboten?
When we’re discussing a state-run economy, Fascism is probably an okay subject to broach.
“What Hitler and Napoleon couldn’t do, the dull Eurocrats and their silky-voiced, terribly respectable media cheerleaders are intent on doing.”
Did the author lose by bringing up Hitler too?
“Did the author lose by bringing up Hitler too?”
I agree. The author made a very clear reference to the (actually false) claim once made about mussolini:
“So the government can’t make the trains run on time …”
And it appears that the best and brightest of PJM don’t know enough to realise that, but they’re up to date on all the very latest bogus fallacies.
Sometimes comparisons with fascists are actually appropriate, but not in this case. On the other hand, it WAS the author who did it firs, so if somebody refers to that in the comments, well, that’s just tough luck.
If this post makes it through I’ll write another one about just how utterly woeful this article is. Fact is, the government over there IS making the trains run on time. They’ve been investing in the london tube to improve reliability. Things go wrong, it happens. People will be pilloried for it back at headquarters. But it’s just flat-out wrong to suggest that the trains are somehow running worse than they have in the past.
Are you suggesting that the London Tube has never run well? 45% of such a massive system down for an appreciable time at rush hour does seem a lot. Is there a history of such events? If so when did it start?
“Fact is, the government over there IS making the trains run on time. They’ve been investing in the london tube to improve reliability.”
Really?
I remember hearing from Brits a few years back that British Rail – which I realize is NOT the same thing as the London Tube – had a horrible record with a very significant number of trains leaving late. The bureacrats involved studied the problem and solved it very quickly, essentially with the stroke of a pen: they simply redefined “late”! The traditional definition had been that a train was late if it left the station more than 4 minutes after the scheduled departure time. The bureaucrats simply changed the interval to an HOUR. Immediately, they were able to report dramatically better on-time performance. And it cost them not a penny!
Is that how the London Tube is being helped to improve its performance?
You may be right. I worked in London in the mid-90s, commuting by train from outside the city. For the first month or two I used the tube to get from the station to the office, but then I realised that, on average, walking was faster. Sure, on a good day I’d take fifteen minutes by tube (including walking to and from the stations) vs half an hour walking all the way, but on a bad day the tube would take an hour.
So the service does seem to have been very bad for a very long time. I’m not at all surprised that so many lines were out at the same time because I’d experienced that myself when working there.
For some reason, this reminds me of something which was once purprted to be the slogan of British Rail: “We’ll get you there, eventually.”
The left goes from zero to hitler/ Il Duce in 3.2 seconds in order to shut people up.
I do not like that tactic and you employed it.
Rubbish. People invoke hitler (et al) because they lack a better argument. And in my experience it’s not the left who’re most eager to invoke fascisism – these days it’s the right, which has settled into a nice comfortable rut where they can claim that anything less than kissing ayn-rand’s butt and turning the clock back to the 1950s is fascism gone wild.
I agree: this Godwin’s Law nonsense is an internet meme that sounds as if it’s some kind of an argument but is hollow. It is perfectly valid to separate out what the Nazis did and instead speak about the intellectual space from which they did it, the clever racial arguments that separated some humans from others.
@techno – Absolutely false. The left are forever calling the right fascists relying on the fallacy that Nazi’s (National Socialists) were right wingers. They were hard-core commies with an ethnic/nativist slant.
Leftists, however, have never met a thug-dictator they didn’t like. They admire the boot-on-throat power these people people have over their populace and they HATE democracy. They resent a people that have any self determination or autonomy.
@techno
“…kissing ayn-rand’s butt and turning the clock back to the 1950s is fascism gone wild.”
Ye, ye, ye. With comments like that, you expect anyone to take you seriously? Ludicrous.
@lolly
If your thesis is true and the Nazis were actually communists with a nativist spin, why did Hitler send 299 divisions of the German Army into the Soviet Union in June 1941? Surely two fellow Communist leaders had no need to attack one another….
He is a troll that keeps changing his name.
He is here to insult and disrupt honest exchange of ideas between people of good will.
Because Hitler considered Stalin and his crew ethinically mongrel – not pure. Had nothing but contempt for them as they did not do far ENOUGH.
They won’t come here – they’ll go to their former colonies Canada and Australia and they ARE leaving GB in droves.
Besides, our country won’t let them in. They’re white.
I don’t know about Australia but British emigration to Canada has been negligible for generations. Reliable Canadian contacts inform me that British people applying to enter Canada via the normal immigration process typically have to wait 10 years. In the meantime, immigrants from the Third World arrive in droves, either as legal immigrants or as refugee claimants, and get in very quickly,
Refugee claims, even when preposterous on the face of it, are still treated as if they are provisionally true. (A Canadian friend told me about a black man who claimed that he would be subject to torture and political repression if he returned to his country. The immigration agent asked what country that was. It turned out that the refugee claimant was a rock band manager – in Boston, Massachusetts.) Then, the claimant goes through a hearing process that has many many levels – once 19 levels, although that has supposedly been reduced – and then either gets accepted somewhere along the line or simply goes underground.
As I understand it, if a British person wanted to emigrate to Canada quickly, his only hope would be to claim refugee status and then either go underground or hope that his claim would eventually be accepted by a gullible refugee board adjudicator.
The Canadian government have quotas for residency visas (the equivalent of a US Green Card) and I believe Britain’s is around 10,000 a year. As you can probably guess, far more Britons want to move here than there are visas available. I applied in the early 2000s and moved just over three years later, but I believe some who applied in 2007 are still waiting, because for a while the queue was growing by nearly two years every year.
For new applicants the waiting period is much shorter, but that’s because the Canadian government changed the system so only a small fraction of previous applicants would still qualify; I wouldn’t myself without a job offer. At the time I applied Australia was even tougher (e.g. educational qualifications had to be pre-vetted by professional organisations), but the Canadian government has been moving closer to their system since Harper gained a majority here.
The only fast route is to get a temporary work permit and then apply for residency if the company want to keep you here. But finding a legitimate job that qualifies for a work permit from the far side of the Atlantic isn’t easy.
Worse than that, the Canadian dollar is down from around $2.40 to the pound when I applied to $1.60-ish to the pound today. Those who have significant savings in Sterling or a British house to sell probably can’t afford to move here at the moment as they’d be moving from an economic basket case to a commodity boom.
As for the more general points, I don’t go back to Britain much but every time I do I’m glad that I got out when I did and can leave at the end of my trip.
Sheesh! My bad! From reading comments from the DM I’d assumed it was easier for Brits to get into countries that still have the Queen on their money.
I know obummer has actually deported Brits that had a Green Card, had a business and was making money for the reason that they weren’t making ENOUGH money.
And who will drive Mussolini out?
You’re aware that Mussolini’s method of “making the trains run on time” was to simply change the schedules to reflect the inefficencies and delays?
Right, just like it’s Mussobama’s tactic to make employment look better by changing the yard stick to ignore those NOT on unemployment, or to have his Propaganda Media tell everyone that 9% unemployment is the “new normal”.
Yep, when in doubt, redefine success.
As I read of the utter lack of action despite the Brits’ feelings, I can scarcely believe America sprang from that country. England has such a great cultural and intellectual history, and great periods of political reform. Surely there are embers of a brighter future?
Okay, everything else has been tried. What about the very institution upon the repudiation of which America was built? Is it possible the royal family of all crazy things could help? What if those handsome princes were to embark on a campaign of violently shaking their countrymen by the lapels and shouting the things so many Brits are thinking? But then, what are the handsome princes thinking?
As I read of the utter lack of action despite the Brits’ feelings, I can scarcely believe America sprang from that country.
We didn’t spring from that country, we fled it over several centuries and fought two wars to ensure our separation.
“We didn’t spring from that country,…”
Just our language … and therefore our literature … and the common law, the ancient liberties of free Englishmen, parliamentary government, the ideas of the British (as opposed to the French) Enlightenment … and religion ….
A few minor things like that.
Once upon a time, it was standard for American high schools to have a required course in British history so that we could better understand our own institutions. And once upon a time, we also required general European history, or “Western Civilization,” for the same reason.
Of course, now we know that dead white men have nothing to teach us and we might as well have been founded by Mesopotamian Muslims. Perhaps we were! Or perhaps we sprang full-grown from the head of Zeus. In any case, our Enlightened Elites don’t want us to know or care.
The ideas that were common sense to the colonists in the 1770s were revolutionary to their British betters because they most definitely were not part of the British mainstream then. It’s more accurate to say that Britain evolved in a direction similar to the path trailblazed by Americans than to say that Americans evolved from the British.
And yes, both grew at least in part from the seeds of Scottish political and economic theory. But the reality of Americans physical separation from British soil were much more important to our development than those philosophers.
This was commonly acknowledged in the first century of our existence. It was only in the latter 19th century that intellectuals Europhilia became relatively widespread, leading to the progressive movement. And even later that Brito-philia took hold.
Britain can still learn a lot from America, the only thing that America can learn from Britain is what not to do, as has always been the case.
Not a Brit—some of my ancestors fled old Blighty about three hundred years ago–and just observing from this side of the Pond.
Not to be too pessimistic but, well, Prince Charles—aging, but the next in line of succession—is nutty as a fruitcake, is all for Global Warming and going Green, loves all things Muslim, as a potential “Defender of the Faith,” is rumored to have been secretly converted to Islam, and was quoted as saying that he wanted to be “Camilla’s tampon,” so you’d better hope he doesn’t become King.
Next in line are young Princes William, Harry, and Andrew. Does any one of them strike you as some sort of new Queen Victoria or Churchill in terms of his character? The kind of potential King who could drag old Blighty back from the Abyss by main force?
Going down the line of succession, how about the rest of the Royalls? No, me neither.
So, barring Divine intervention, there you have it.
Heh, hence my question, “what are the handsome princes thinking?” (Note, I said the handsome ones, not their brain-dead father the Prince of Wails. Or is it the Prince of Whales?) But from the look of things the answer to that question doesn’t hold much hope anyway.
Since I’m not particularly religious I’ll settle for “events” over “Divine intervention.” If only a harmless supernova like the 1054 event could do the trick. I fear it will take much more, however.
“Prince Charles… was quoted as saying that he wanted to be “Camilla’s tampon,”
Just to be fair, this was NOT taken from a public speech. It was a private communication between Charles and Camilla which was intercepted by the British tabloids.
Actually, Princes William and Harry seem to actually have roles in life that Charles never did. The British military seems quite accepting of Flight Lieutenant Wales. He has done more then purely cerermonial duties in the British military.
I think either of them would be up to replacing their grandmother on the throne. Harry’s a bit of a playboy, but then, he’s in line only if his brother dies before having an heir. Can’t blame him for living it up- while also performing his military duties.
As I read of the utter lack of action despite the Brits’ feelings, I can scarcely believe America sprang from that country.
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You know that old saw, “Fortune favors the brave” ? Well that’s the answer to your above statement. Those that left Britain to strike out on their own were the brave resourceful souls, leaving the ‘limp-wristed’, who would have had the vapors just making the journey across the pond. In other words the wheat was sorted from the chaff, Britain being the chaff.
That’s just it – the best people left 3 hundred years ago. What’s left is the dregs.
Here was me thinking that it was the failures,dregs and rejects that fled the nation enabling those that left to create the British Empire, defeat america 1812, napoleon etc…my mistake
You didn’t beat us in 1812 – we royally kicked your ass! That made twice and you didn’t have the excuse of having your forces split between us and the French the second time around.
If they are thinking what their father’s thinking, then there’s no hope there.
Don’t forget the obvious corollary: all of the bright ones that desired freedom, mostly religious, came here. The ones that were happy under the king’s rule stayed – and bred.
I can scarcely believe America sprang from that country.
The American colonists may have come from Britain, but they were never British, even though they lived there for centuries. The majority of the colonists came from central England, mostly via Bristol, and were Mercian peoples, which were the largest ethic group, or tribe if you will, that resided in Britain over the centuries.
So, barring Divine intervention, there you have it.
That is the only reason the British royalty has managed to survive thousands of years. Without divine intervention, they would have shot themselves in the foot and died off long ago.
The Brits may be rotting but they still throw a great parade
So did the Soviet Union right up to the end.
BEAUTIFUL reply! Succinct and pithy. It should be framed. Well done Over-50 (which I’ll be as well in 3, no 4 short years…).
– FF
Heh!
Brilliant! Well said.
And the Queen wears a mean hat! Anything else G.B. has going for it?
The only thing I can think of is that The Zombies are still touring.
They still make quite excellent beer, and pub grub is most tasty.
The attitude of the UK’s multicultural elite’ is summed up by this article;
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-18119242
Among its more telling quotes is;
For myself, I had always been an enthusiastic pro-European and an unashamed believer in a federal European state. Like many English people of my tastes and proclivities, I rather fancied myself propping up zinc bars, sipping pastis and listening to the musical chink-clank of petanque.
I viewed an increasingly united Europe as a necessary counterweight to US world hegemony and Russian idiocy, while also being a handy cosmopolitan stick with which to beat the backs of uptight Little Englanders.
As one of the commenters pointed out, this lad is so historically ignorant he doesn’t even know what the term “Little Englander” actually means. (Here’s a hint, laddie; look in a mirror.)
The new elite’ in the UK doesn’t believe in democracy, economics, or England. They want to be chic Paris boulevardiers’ from the Gilded Age. (Having just finished reading The Dynamite Club by John Merriman, I now know that said boulevardiers’ were what we would call today “metrosexuals” with a side order of “gigolos”.)
And oh yes, they want all those stubbornly British Brits to shut up and sing.
But as the story states, even they are starting to realize that the Great European Experiment, aka The Return of Metternich (or at least his ghost) is failing. And, predictably, their reaction is classic post-modern intellectual; Double Down The Bet.
It isn’t working for Obama here. It won’t work for them over there.
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eon
Eon. Your point is well made but respectfully I ask, are you sure it isn’t actually working just swimmingly for Obama? It seems that we (the masses, you know) are the ones for whom the double-down isn’t working. I see Obama as nothing less than the punk from Chicago who managed to pull off possibly the greatest con in human history. While we are left with the disastrous residue of the double-down, Obama and the Mrs. will have long since become multi-millionaires living well away from it all in posh surroundings surrounded by admirers and wealthy well-connected parasites. That I would wager has been the plan from the beginning.
True, but I long ago concluded that, due to His narcissism, The One really is on a “holy crusade” to remake the world. It’s not just window-dressing.
This could simply mean that He has bought into His own con, but a more likely reason is that since He honestly believes in both His Messiah-hood and His “holy mission”, when He does something because His dogma demands it, He’s doing it for precisely that reason. No more and no less.
While He is certainly interested in personal advantage, He may have a different definition than most of His more odious cronies, like Blagojevich. They saw it simply in terms of power, money, and the ability to hurt people they don’t like. He sees it in those terms, plus the ability to remould the world to fit His vision.
Common thugs see the world in the former way. Messiahs see it in the latter.
A couple of quotations from Frank Herbert & Co.’s Dune novels come to my mind, here;
In my estimation, more misery has been created by reformers than by any other force in human history. Show me someone who says, “Something must be done!” and I will show you a head full of vicious intentions that have no other outlet. What we must strive for always! is to find the natural flow and go with it.
-Reverend Mother Taraza
No more terrible disaster could befall your people than for them to fall into the hands of a Hero.
-Planetologist Pardot Kynes.
(Both taken from The Notebooks of Frank Herbert’s Dune, edited by Brian Herbert. New York; Perigee Books (div. of Putnam), 1988. ISBN 0-399-51466-X. (OOP)
cheers
eon
eon. I think you give Obama too much credit. He has no vision; he is a thug, pure & simple.
He most certainly is a thug of the Chicago school with a strong dose of Bill Ayres added for seasoning. But he has not a vision but a profound dislike, nay hatred, for America as we know it. His daddy was a foreign socialist, his mama a US radical, and he was raised and educated in the Indonesian school system. No matter what bill of goods the public has been sold, he is not one of us, and more importantly has no desire to be. He does in fact want to impose change on the country, make us into something, some image of his imagination, that would be more in keeping with his international roots.
Mom Taraza wiser than Mom Teresa.
Surely there are embers of a brighter future?
You’d think so, wouldn’t you? But aside from a few worthy chroniclers — Liddle (it wasn’t always so), Hitchens, Theodore Dalyrymple/Daniels (when he can be bothered), and now Kyle Smith are examples — there’s nothing visible. The author, as Brits still sometimes say, is spot on.
This thread will eventually produce one or two feeble blusterers and some pouting, but that’s about it. FWIW, I agree Cameron is a disaster, though that’s no surprise to anyone who’s met him; Will’m Hague used to be worthy of respect — no more, it seems.
The BBC/Guardian’s version of a Good American (an oxymoron to Brit MSM) is Bill Bryson. If you don’t know who he is, leave it that way and count yourself lucky.
I recently had the chance of a week’s worth of luxury junketing in the UK, a country I know well. I said no. Time to vote with your feet.
Only been back to the mother land a few times, but the last time I strolled around the British Museum area–just two weeks before the “Tube Bombings–I was shocked to discover the area now reminded me a little of what Peshawar looked like in a recent travelogue.
BRING BACK THE ROSE
Time for another Oliver Cromwell to take over England. There isn’t much time left before Great Britain becomes so politically correct, so far left, so obsessed with the welfare state, so lazy, and so broke that it will become a pathetic third-rate power unable and even unwilling to defend itself from anything.
I wonder if there are any Oliver Cromwells left to save England? I hope so. They have such a rich heritage, such a fine history, that I would hate to see them become just another France.
Your article appears at the same time as a British military team in Afghanistan have successfully rescued hostages. Do not underestimate the British.
And just what does that prove? That a handful of Brits with balls still exist? Vs. how many who lack them?
When any organism dies, some cells die first…some die last. The body is pretty well done for, and the hope for recovery is pretty slim.
The SAS, etc., are the military. They carry out policy; they do not create it.
Having the military, any military, in the policy-making business is bad. Look up “Rome”, “Praetorian Guard”, and “Barracks Emperors” for one rather old example of why.
The problem in the UK is that policy is also not being made by the electorate. Rather, it is being made by the “wise heads” in Parliament, Eurounion-worshiping transnational progressives all, who follow their dogmas irrespective of their announced Party affiliations and/or the traditions of those Parties. When the voters complain, they are simply ignored, on the grounds that not being part of the “enlightened elite’”, they are ipso facto too stupid to have their opinions listened to. Or even to know what is good for them.
To see how this can work out, look up the record of the Roman senate in the waning days of that Empire.
Or just the records of James Ramsay MacDonald, Stanley Baldwin, and Neville Chamberlain. All of whom were at least as great a disaster for Britain domestically as they were in foreign policy.
clear ether
eon
America’s future, just vote Democrat in November.
No, No, No, No…..you mustn’t say that. That’s defeatist. Remember we’re only a very, very young country, Briton goes back to the Roman Conquest, much earlier than “1066, And All That”.
We need to remember just who came across the Atlantic in the 17th, 18th, and 19th centuries and why. Don’t let our Media eat at you.
Obama is just a boil which needs to be lanced….after that, if we use these past Obama Years (which will only be a blip in the future) as a Lesson to be carefully studied and avoided, in the long run we’ll be just fine.
It’s not just Obama–the US has been in trouble since Wilson. If it were just Obama I wouldn’t be too worried, but there’s 100 years of wrong direction that needs to be changed. There’s not much sign that the alternatives to Obama are serious about backing up; at best they won’t press down on the gas pedal quite so hard.
The problem isn’t Obama, it’s the 53% that were foolish enough to vote for him(sadly some in my own family). I reckon it’ll be down to about 48% with about 2.1 more “slop” thrown in come November to put him over the top. It ain’t the man, its the saps that fall for him that worries me.
Well, only 57% of registered voters even bothered to vote last time. Of that 57%, 52% voted for Obama.
Sounds more like we have to get a hold of the voter apathy in this country. However, with the choices they’ve been giving us I can understand staying home…..
Be careful with your presidential election in November. Under Tony B-Liar and Gordon B-Ruin we ended up with a situation where people could be earning something approaching 4 times the average wage (about 7 tiomes the minimum wage) and still qualify for social security benefits which were disguised as tax credits. And we have a prime minister who calls himself the heir to Blair, even though he is supposed to be a Conservative. I have heard calls for a military coup in Britain, and I live there. Our benefits system is crazy: a Pole, for example, coming to work in the UK and then out of work can claim benefits in Britain for his family in Poland. It will be so difficult to untangle the mess that the benefits system has been made into that you will hear the screams in California without the benefit of a telephone. But deposed politicians do not want to rock the boat because it is a very nice gravy train at Brussells when you lose office in the UK. Ask Neil Kinnock, B-Liar’s preecessor as Labour leader.
I take no pleasure in what appears to be the future of the English Citizen nor do I have a sense of comfort or superiority because of their plight for I can’t help but seeing their future as being the USA’s future if we continue to follow the ever increasing influence of our own elite statists and Europhiles. Briton is only a negligible number of years behind France and 15 to 20 years ahead of us, but the destination and the end game is the same.
THIS.
I fear that you are right, and I marvel at the complacency of those who believe otherwise.
I don’t know what the future of the English citizen is- England had no citizens. It has the Queen, and subjects.
One of the major differences between us and them. And there is a difference betwen a citizen and subject.
and give “tiredness counseling.”
There’s a new wrinkle, just when you’d hoped the PC’ers might have exhausted their repertoire.
I guess that repertoire of finding new grievances, new aggreviements, is bottomless.
The jubilee stuff looks vapid. And Big Ben will be re-named Elizabeth Tower ?
Sacrilege.
Only for the jubilee. Then it goes back to Big Ben.
Big Ben will remain Big Ben; it is the tower containing Big Ben which will be renamed.
Faint sparks of the old great Britain, upon which the sun never set only 80 years ago, can be seen at the last night of the Proms concert when the crowd sings, Jerusalem and Land of Hope & Glory and perhaps Hail Britainia.
Hrumph !
I’d be willing to bet a dime to a donut that few have been able to fiqure out the homosexual angle in all of this.
Even though it has been a long time coming straight at us.
Oooh, interesting point. And how about the crooked teeth angle? Also the angle of unrinsed dishes.
When was the last time you bought a donut?
2012 is the 200th anniversary of the War of 1812.
It’s not just 21th century Britain that is decayed, in WW2, Ireland, led by Devalera, was NETRUAL.
Ireland couldn’t decide which side to take.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_neutrality_during_World_War_II
Back to the United Kaliphate, it was the UK and its territory scotland which released the convicted bomber of Pan Am 103 on “compassionate” grounds.
There are a few Great Brits. Pat Condell is one of them.
http://www.youtube.com/user/patcondell
I like Pt Condell, but he turns into a raving lunatic with his hatred of Christianity and Christians.
That’s the biggest problem with GB and all of the western world – its POST Christian and is failing because of it.
It’s been “post-Christian” since about 1776.
Care to recall what sort of society we had prior to that in the West, going back oh, about 1400 years? Hint: it sure as hell wasn’t “pre-Christian”.
We are now post-Enlightenment, thanks to the Left – and if you don’t think there are plenty of opportunistic religious conservatives who are quite glad of it, you aren’t even in the game.
That’s not true. Besides, the ultimate end to the Enlightenment was the French Revolution and all the blood spilled.
When you see some of what passes for Christianity in Britain, it is no wonder it is a post-Christian society. Limp wristed and effeminate does not do the Church of England justice: it is far worse. I thank God that I am called to worship with the non-conformists. Indeed, my Presbyterian background includes one Jenny Geddes who took congregational involvement to a new dimension in the 17th Century by throwing her stool at a preacher in St. Giles cathedral, Edinburgh.
Britain is rotting from within?
Like we aren’t? Catch up on the news.
Economic policy is the core of these issues. Federal fractional reserve banking system created over the last 100 years only works if additional debt is continually added. This debt must be added into banking system by Floating treasuries, printing money, issuing bank Notes, or sovereign notes issued by governments, and other mechanisms.
This system devalues a nations currency slowly at first, then faster and faster as debt is furiously added to sustain liquidity and force interest rates down. The tipping point of this system are what we are currently watching.
In the labor pool Debt is added by allowing and fostering illegal migrant workers and exporting labor to third world countries.
Britain still controls a large percentage of the worlds currency and commodities trading through the corporation of London. This is not to be confused with the London itself, this is a entity unto itself. Britain is following the USA into the chasm but has cards to play the USA has given away long ago.
http://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/Corporation
The USA buried its head in the sand when NAFTA was passed in 1993, when Glass – Steagall was repealed in 1999, when Petro-Dollar system replaced the stable US Dollar in 1971, and so many other events in the last few decades. These events happened on our watch, and we allowed them.
I’m a big fan of Pajamas Media especially Wretchard the Cat, Roger Simon and Victor Hanson. I’m also British. There are a lot of bad things here -this article though is a bit stupid -it reads like one of those hatchet jobs Guardian hacks do on the US.
We need facts. What’s really going on over there?
With bated breath we await your refutation.
Enlighten us please. Can you point to anything factually wrong? I’ll grant you that the Guardian produces copious excrement, but how is this article like a hatchet job?
We Yanks would love nothing more than a vibrant, expressive, British culture that fully embraces your interesting and remarkable history. Unfortunately, from our vantage point, multi-culturalism and a host of crypto-commie policies have reduced the UK to exactly what the article describes.
I agree with Juliet – the tone is rather snarky and the comments seem to delight in the demise of one of our staunchest historical allies … There are good points to be made in the article, but it seems to be delivered with a tinge of cynical satisfaction at the downfall of a nation which did so much to civilize the world.
I’m posting this under another name because so many of my comments lately have been spcensored for some reason… Is it a bug, or is it malignant editing at PJM???
Hi there Alternative Name-that’s exactly what I meant-the snarky tone is the problem and is what makes it sound like The Guardian
I agree with you.
The “snark,” the apparent belief that Britain’s problems are not also OUR problems, the lack of sadness, are off-key, to put it very, very kindly.
What you’ve misidentified as “snark” and schadenfreude is actually bitterness at the decline of a beloved friend. It’s the rhetorical equivalent of throwing cold water in the friend’s face–a desperate wish that the friend might yet snap the hell out of it and Prove. Us. Wrong.
But when Britons respond with (at best) hurt feelings and these defensive non-answers, the prognosis starts looking grave indeed.
“What you’ve misidentified as “snark” and schadenfreude is actually bitterness at the decline of a beloved friend.”
This!
I want to take them by the shoulders and shake them while screaming, WAKE UP! DO SOMETHING! SAVE YOURSELVES!
I am a Brit lucky enough to live in both of our nations. Both have problems that can be exagerated and picked over ad nauseum.This article is however about Britain, a Britain I don’t recognise in my daily life whether work or personal. The Britain portrayed in the media is that of London and certain inner cities. For the majority of Brits life goes on as it always has…you should come over and have a look.
If that’s a veiled offer to buy an impoverished polemicist a transatlantic ticket, I’m game.
To return to the main subject, though, much of the worst news out of Britain is originating from the suburbs and other decidedly non-urban areas (feel free to peruse this site and external links for abundant information).
But in addition, it wouldn’t matter if it WERE just London or the inner cities at the moment. However isolated you might be from the worst of it, the political mechanisms that brought their situation about can be wielded against you as easily as Londoners. And this gormless phlegmaticism in the face of it is an open invitation to do so. So sit and wait, if Britons are good for nothing else. Enjoy your life as it always has been, while you may.
Well, here we go again, a brace of insipid Brit whiners.
What you see is not hate; only rarely is it schadenfreude. Most in the later category are well versed in aspects of Perfidious Albion — I would say that’s unhealthy, often obsessive, but in their defense, the bad stuff is as much part of your history as all the good stuff (same with everyone).
As for today, you need to be clear that many Americans have had more than enough of feeble, ineffective limey flapping and ‘judgement’. You and your kind are eager to see everyone’s errors — but never your own. The schadenfreude exists because that whiney Brit tone is also, far too often, arrogant, ignorant, ungrateful, self-pitying and smug (Guardian, Independent, and a comet’s tail of fifth rate political/social crap from the BBC). And now you’re busted, down to red herrings of the kind visible in some postings here (Mussolini?).
We have plenty of problems of our own to deal with, and they come first. The concept of fixing your own wagon is entirely un-British. A nice cup of tea and a long whimper won’t do it, Gladys. You’re on your own. When you’ve fixed your own problems, then try again. Maybe start with Europe?
Meantime, get used to the end of the line and the bottom of the barrel.
In an increasingly hostile world you will perhaps one day be thankful for friends like us supposedly whiney limeys even if it is just to learn better manners.
Juliet, the problem is that the article is correct, not that it was written. Deal with the problem, don’t shoot the messenger.
If it as bad as it seems, it is too damn bad….always loved GB. And we are not far behind, I fear…
This really shows that “culture” is everything when it comes to the life and death of a country. This completely vindicates much of what “Spengler” (who now writes for PJM) has said for years — focusing on culture as the lifeblood of any country. Culture is destiny.
Depressing, this article was.
Britain’s problem is the same as the rest of Europe’s: Socialism. First the elitist, academic class: the Shavians, Bloomsbury. And then the unions:”I’m all right, Jack.”, dominating the government for decades. Then the embracing of “multiculturalism” – the reward of centuries of colonialism. Consider the shire of Yorkistan.
“Rule Britania – Britannia rules the waves. Britons never, never, never shall be slaves.”
So, Britannia waived the rules which had built an empire upon which the sun never set and Britons are following the BBC and the Guardian down the road to the serfdom of communism/Islam.
There’s a lesson here for those who fail to perceive the threat from “leftists” dedicated to destroying America’s spirit of Exceptionalism.
We need a Reagan. Britain needs a Thatcher.
Reagan and Thatcher didn’t do us any good in the long run; at best they were brakes, that bought us some time but did nothing to change our direction.
What we need is not just brakes (which, by its own admission, is the best that conservatism can do – “stand athwart history shouting ‘Stop’”), but to turn around and travel in a different direction entirely.
Reagan and Thatcher let us soar like eagles. The problem is that we didn’t ignore the turkeys and they eventually got us down.
People tend to believe that the insanity and bloodshed of the 20th century in Europe can never happen again. They are wrong. Lord help them because in another generation or two, there will be violence.
Lord help them because in another generation or two, there will be violence.
Do you think it will take that long?
I wondered the same thing, as I doubt seriously it will take that long.
Seriously! Here inthis country the left – more specifically the OWS crowd and the NBPP – are calling for our blood. Right out in the open, they are calling for our blood and our own injustice dept seem be egging them on.
You are an optimist. I, here in Italy, would not be surprised the SHTF before the end of the decade. When the economy turn sour people start to become intolerant of the status quo.
Another generation or two?
Not hardly. At the rate things are falling apart, war is months, or at best, a few years away.
When you see the Europeans solve their financial crises, know that war is months away.
Too bad the Brits flopped on their backs and pissed on themselves when they came for their guns.
To show how bad things are in Old Blighty, and how far Muslim’s effrontery and sense of entitlement goes, look at Tower Hamlets.
The East End Hamlets used to supply yeoman for the Tower, and were overseen by the Tower back in the 16th century. Muslims have moved in and now dominate the area. Well, back in 2007 Muslim’s representatives proposed that, since Muslims in the Hamlets wanted a convenient area nearby to bury their dead in, they proposed that the 350,000 Englishmen now buried in the historic 33 acre Tower Hamlets Cemetery Park—now closed to new burials and a nature reserve –should be dug up and buried somewhere else, to turn it into a “multi-faith cemetery,” so that Muslims could have “purified” areas to bury their dead in. But, given the current population in the area, Muslims would simply replace the Englishmen and Christians formerly buried there and, realistically, it would soon become a Muslim cemetery.
Said Labour-controlled council’s environment spokesman Abdal Ullah in 2007, “To preserve the respect and dignity for everyone, I think most of the graves would have to be cleared out and we’d start afresh.” (see http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-487017/Anger-plan-dig-350-000-bodies-historic-London-cemetery-Muslim-burial-site.html), and a decision is still pending in 2012.
Multi-culturism run amok. It never ceases to amaze me how willing leftists are to appease the Mohammedan hordes.
Every big city in the world has trouble finding plots for new burials. Much of London is basically built over old cemeteries. As the city grew from the earliest settlement, it has gradually built over its old burial plots (which were inevitably located just outside the town limits at any given time). Construction projects are repeatedly hitting old burial sites. Nothing stays still forever.
If a cemetery has historical significance, that’s great. But as people die, other people will want places to bury them. Those burial places are increasingly in short supply, and faith groups will inevitably get into stoushes over what places there are.
Muslim people will eventually tdie too. They will need to be buried somewhere. Old cemeteries will be reused. That’s life.
As I understand it (I’m no expert) the move here in australia is to move towards 100-year plots for this very reason. Sydney in particular is really struggling to find burial places. And yes, there are arguments between religions, as you’d expect.
The argument here seems to be that the cemetery should be left as it is simply because the people who will probably be buried there won’t christian. Well, tough luck. There’s a word for that. Once upon a time, NOBODY buried in britain was christian.
“Muslim people will eventually die too. They will need to be buried somewhere.”
That’s what landfills are for.
Do you remember, Great Britian, the sweep of your deeds
The sound of them strumming the sky?
But now when I listen, the melody’s changed
Your words only whisper goodbye
I don’t want to morn when I think of you
But now whenever you speak, I do
The decay of the angel continues. The culture that created an Empire through blood and horror got knackered and retired back to England. They and their children believed in the Empire and cut coupons. Their children lost their sons in the Big war and then cut coupons. Then the coupons ran out. They were knackered by the war and Depression and approved of creeping socialism, appeasement, and social controls so they could be “safe”. They also sold their grandfather’s possessions and town houses and did a scarper into the country to be “safe”.
Their children pledged to never go to war or vote for “that nutter” Churchill but later went to war under Churchill. Their relatives inherited and sold all the land around the country estate so they could continue to be fake toffs and “safe”. Their children turned their country house into a bed and breakfast and voted Liberal and Labour. Now they all wonder where the country has gotten to and where the bloody ethnics have come from.
When the Soviet Union appeared to be flying high there were plenty of commentators bemoaning the coming eclipse of the West. They were – wittingly or unwittingly – fellow travellers of Communists seeking to undermine the West from within: ‘Wormtongues’ counselling despair and loss, for those familiar with Lord of the Rings.
Except that the Soviet Union, and its direct intellectual offspring, multiculturalism, was built on a bluff. There is no real power behind it, only what power we give it, and that bluff is starting to be called, in the UK and in the rest of the West.
Articles like this – these Wormtongue counsels – are designed (intentionally or not) to stop people from realising that this is happening, to maintain the bluff and keep the ‘preference cascade’ – when people realise how widespread is the opposition – from happening.
Do you actually KNOW anything about the history and roots of multiculturalism? The soviet union has/had nothing to do with it. Multiculturalism is/was born out of reality and necessity. It’s the flip-side to globalisation. Deal with it – not everyone who lives in your street is going to see the world the way you do (thank goodness).
You need to check with former Communists – eg David Horowitz, Jamie Glashow, the guys at The People’s Cube – and perhaps read up about The Frankfurt School for good measure.
No, multiculturalism didn’t ‘just happen’. It was and is (together with environmentalism etc) part of a push by Communists to undermine the West from within. Do you think all the Communists just threw up their hands when the Berlin wall came down? “Oh, well that’s it, they won, we lost”. No, they didn’t.
Here, I’ve saved you some googling:
“Multiculturalism and Marxism” http://www.reversespins.com/pcmarx.html
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Multiculturalism
“Multiculturalism is a Marxist social theory which asserts that all cultures, races and religions are equal and able to live with harmony…”
Except of course that they don’t actually believe that … they just want us to believe it.
Utter garbage! Multiculturalism is only a tool by socialist to dilute and weaken the west. You certainly don’t hear anybody wanting to dilute the cultures of muslim or african countries. NO! God Forbid! It’s only western or “white” countries that are being offered up to the gods of the multicults.
Spoken like a true historical illiterate.
Tut, tut, the prevailing administrative culture has everything under control and, as the highest form of humanity so far attained, could never countenance a regression to neanderthal times of self-defense rights, well damned by Harold Pinter in his famous letter to Ohioan voters, when a “man’s” home was his “castle” and all that bosh. The law-abiding British citizen’s sole existential justification is as resource, recreation, rapine, and repast for the criminal and for the visionary socialist politician. Those who complain too loudly will, in due time, find their complaints put into the negative side of the balance in their cases by suffering bureaucrats making agonized but socially ameliorative decisions about limited medical and housing resources.
The prevailing administrative culture: coming to a jurisdiction near you.
Drool, Britannia, Britannia drools in waves,
Britons very very soon will all be slaves!
And sooner than you think, as will America and all of the other countries that think spending fake money will be their salvation.
Has there ever been a civilization that was so self-flagellating as the West currently is?
Two of my favorite British folk bands, Fairport Convention and Steeleye Span, have put out “bad, bad white man” songs (“Jewel in the Crown” and “White Man,” respectively) which is bizarre, since both groups routinely celebrate British culture. But they just had to play the “we’re so evil” routine. It’s how you get left-wing cred in Europe.
How can all of Europe be so limp and self-loathing when their enemies live amongst them and say flat out to their faces, “We are going to erase your culture”?
What psycological anomaly is this? It’s like a cultural mugging: “Hand over your continent or I’ll call you a racist!” “OK, OK! Please don’t call me a… you know… that ‘R-word’! My liberal friends might overhear it!”
Perhaps it’s just a last gasp, but if I were British I’d vote UKIP across the Board, on EU Elections, Westminister and locally.
I do. In my local authority area (safe Labour) UKIP have pushed the conservatives into 3rd place in many seats. But while people believe that there is a never-ending goodie bag in the shape of a benefits systems that the country cannot afford, and while Labour tells them that this is so, only the economically literate will consider an alternative.
This article is a load of tosh. Wow, so a crime happened – THE WORLD IS ENDING!
Try to remember that the perp in that case was acquitted of the charge of murder by a jury. Not by some left-liberal judge or some overbearing do-gooder nanny state, but by a jury. The same jury did find him guilty of manslaughter, however, and the judge sent him down for the maximum possible of 10 years – which isn’t considered an insignificant period of time by most sensible people. The perp clearly screwed up, big time, but there was apparently no evidence that it was a pre-meditated act. He didn’t go in there intending to kill, and it does seem at least credible that the death was an accident. Under UK law, that’s manslaughter. Comparing that case with similar cases here (australia) and in the UK, and it doesn’t seem all that lenient to me.
As I posted above, the Tube outage is a hassle, but it comes as the government is sinking a packet of money into upgrades and improvements, which are generally showing up in the reliability statistics. Stuff happens, but it’s wrong to imply that the UK trains are somehow going to the dogs. Quite the opposite. Don’t get sucked in by the labor opposition’s opportunisting whinging.
And who on earth would complain about money being spent on assisting parents? That’s all that “nanny state” program is – information services. So flamin’ what? It might not make a great deal of difference, but they won’t know unless they try, and I would have thought The Side Of Conservative Goodness And Apple Pie And The Flag would applaud better support for new parents. They’re spending a whole poofteenth of stuff-all on it, too, so everyone wins.
As for the racist stuff, yeah, well, I’m inclined to agree about that. I personally think that merely being offensive should not be a criminal act. There have been a couple of cases recently of people getting jail time for being a berk. But maybe brits think it’s appropriate – has anyone thought to ask?
And yes, euroscepticism is alive and well. The UK has always seen itself as alongside, but not part of europe. The UK is also nationalist in a lot of other ways – like subsidising its agriculture (to an astonishing degree), making endless BBC documentaries about how great britain used to be, and propping up old national industries. And don’t get me started about the degree to which they trash their broader economy for the benefit of the banking sector. That’s why they don’t have a car industry any more, despite having a wealth of talent.
But the UK can’t really afford to just ditch the EU – the cost of trade and travel would increase, and they’d lose the ability to influence decisions that, like it or not, will affect them. So they whinge and moan about it instead, like they’ve been doing for the last 30+ years.
Another commonwealth folk defending England’s demise. Knock me over with a feather.
No worries. In North America we have like-minded Illiberals and sadly many cities like Londonistan.
Here in SE Asia I’m friends with a majority of the few English, Scot and Wales ex-pats, respectively. RAF, RAAF, Kiwis, International professor’s, spouses/ house-husband’s etc., However unlike yourself they too are jaded, disappointed and avoid at all costs or cringe altogether if having to permanently return to their homeland.
And no it’s not just the old-timer’s.
As for multiculturalism and/or diversity being a, ‘necessity’ – that’s ridiculous. You must REALLY be drinking PM Julian Gillard’s kool-aid.
That’s alright. As you know many fellow American’s STILL find Obama intelligent.
Multiculturalism/ diversity – The entire construct is a nonsensical chest thumping moment for Illiberal’s ever-inflating ego for a go-nowhere, counterproductive ideology.
For the aforementioned Illiberal NEEDS in their mind, unemployed/ minimally educated adult’s as neighbor’s living essentially off the public dole. Whereas these societal sponges bring their myriad of ugliness-like baggage with them.
The Illberal responds to such facts, ‘Yeah I know it looks bad on the surface but did you notice their enjoying all the caveats of our area? Yes they don’t pay anything into these perks and do bring a lot of bad elements to (insert many grievances here) . Don’t tell anyone, I don’t believe they have the mental fortitude to improve their situation so.. ain’t diversity awesome’?
The problem with those who ‘expect’ something for nothing, their thirst for these freebies are never saturated nor satisfied.
Hence Londonistan is eating itself from within.. willingly and sadly ‘proudly’.
I believe you missed entirely the message this op-ed conveyed. The once great, proud England is continuing it’s fall from grace to appease the minority-numbered Illiberals and anti-West who are taking over with ‘multiculturalism and diversity leading the charge, easily might I add, ol’ Blighty.
You do quite well for an appeasing fool. So much for the modern English, give up your country and rights and freedoms but by God never give up the illusion you are right or that you have fashioned a foreign yoke about your neck. Stiff upper lip be damned, your country is dead and all you can do is comment on how nice the her shroud is and how people shouldn’t wail so much.
Interesting. Techno has tried posting follow-ups to those comments, and they’re being dropped.
PJM – the last bastion of a good argument, defender of that free speech!
Poor techno deluded and oppressed.
“Britain’s Already Dead, It Just Hasn’t Been Buried Yet”
Maybe so…but, I’d rather live there than in Bangladesh.
From what I’ve been reading lately, there’s not much difference these days.
Dave, tell me the difference betwqeen Bangladesh and Dewsbury, Bradford, Tower Hamlets, Leicester, Rochdale etc.
I see the comments from the “defenders of the faith” that is brits who refuse to acknowldege that their country has lost it’s sense of identity, it’s traditional values, it’s courage, and true decency. It has been replaced by a selfish lot of con men and women, the death paneled National Health Service, nut job greens, elf and safety fanatics, liberal BBC shits, a nanny state, and a self importance and arrogance of it’s ruling elite that soars far above their actual stature or role in the world. The simple reason is liberalism.
If America needs any further insight into it’s own future if it follows this path, she need look no further than the UK however if that is not enough, looking at Greece, Spain, Ireland and most other countries on this troubled continent for how not to run a country. Sans freedoms to boot.
The thing is, as Kyle Smith failed to spot, in his half-hour Google-Earth tour of London, that the eu is about to disintegrate. The collapse will be messy, I have no doubt, but the result will be freedom for twenty-odd nations (not for France, or Belgium, who signed away freedom decades ago). The rest of us in the UK can’t wait for the eu fantasy to evaporate.
At that point, we’ll find out if our notional rulers actually have the brains or the guts to roll back the decades of lunacy. For many years, they have been passing into law literally thousands of commandments from Brussels, with nothing resembling a Parliamentary debate. Often, the civil servants in Whitehall, or Busybody Central, as it must be known right across the universe, gold-plate these instructions from the eu; i.e. they make them even more complicated, destructive and costly than they were to begin with.
With Brussels reverting to its natural state (an unpleasant, French-speaking backwater, in a country where all the interesting people, past and present, have spoken Dutch), British politicians (and their civil servants) will have to start thinking for themselves. We quite often get British politicians promising to rip up thousands of unnecessary laws, but, even if they don’t grasp beforehand that the laws in question are mandated by Brussels, they soon get the message. The result is that the “bonfire” of regulations ends up ditching a single law from 1978, regarding the manufacture of paper-clips from plutonium (OK – I’m making that one up, but I’m not exaggerating much).
Without the eu, the British government will have no reason to enact so much legislation in the first place and will have no excuse not to repeal acres of monumentally stupid legislation. Attuned to getting their instructions from Brussels and to justifying their existence by the number of laws to which they have contributed (measured in both millimetres and kilograms, naturally), many civil servants will have no clue as to how to frame legislation – which is just as well, since the last thing we need is more of the stuff. Paradoxically, a Britain free from the eu could dispense with tens of thousands of useless civil servants.
So… We have a pompous, incompetent Prime Minister, whose only claim to voters’ loyalty is that he isn’t called “Blair”, or “Brown”. He has no principles, doesn’t appear to have any particular clue as to why he wants to be PM. We have an equally vacuous Chancellor (equivalent of the Treasury Secretary), who thinks he can do the job part-time; on present evidence, he’s wrong, but I’d feel happier with a George Osborne staying completely clear of the Treasury, as opposed to an Osborne who devoted his every waking minute to it. The collapse of the eu would sweep away Cameron, Osborne and EVERY other leading politician in the UK.
Good riddance. I can’t wait.
Oh my.
his half-hour Google-Earth tour of London
Er, it’s detailed and documented and based on close observation by someone who lives there. You can’t take it, can you?
Forgive me, but it you want Brussels to fall, you have to push it. If you want it to fall fast, you have to push it hard. Yet you propose the Sweet FA route of sitting on you ‘arse’. Passive, reactive, guaranteed to fail — and very British.
The inertia built in to the EU machinery will support entire careers and life-time index-linked pensions while you harrumph away over your half-pint of bitter. Do you understand how pitiful this sounds to an American ear? Hell, after all these years Brussels hasn’t produced one set of audited books, not one. Each year and every year the auditors refuse to sign off.
Yet there you millions of other Brits sit, whining away, waiting for Godot. Right now there are plenty of messes for us to deal with here in the US. No doubt this sounds to you like ‘a rather unpleasant American on a high horse’, BUT…
Why on earth would we want to waste time on you and your kind? The world changed.
“Waiting for Godot”… Whoops!
I think you just betrayed the source of your anti-British bias. Now go and fix the train-wreck of your own effing country.
Whoops! ?
This is dead-horse time, but… Do explain, I know the play quite well. If you’re implying that I struggle with irony, well, try again. Maybe you’re just having one of those hate-packed anti-Irish spasms that afflict so many Brits. Well, with some sadness, I confess to having no Irish blood either.
Bias? Let’s be specific: what you’ve failed to grasp throughout this thread is the mixture of contempt, disdain and, in some cases, sadness at the sight of shattered memories. Americans are above all pragmatists and prefer to deal with the real world. We move on as needed.
You can’t handle it. So you flail away, reduced now to ad hominem pouting, in denial and without a clue.
Time for a chorus of Men of Harlech and another half, maybe?
I read this column and wept.
I spent a year living and working in Britain. I have good friends there. They are good, hard-working middle-class people with a strong work ethic, family values, sense of right-and-wrong, and even an entrepreneurial spirit. They deserve a government far better than the one they have.
The problem is that the burning fire within us Americans that caused the Tea Party’s creation just isn’t present in Brits. Our culture causes us Americans to believe we can change things and so we try. Our spirit causes us to keep trying until we succeed. American Exceptionalism at work. The British culture is the result of hundreds of years’ of thinking that political change is beyond their reach.
Part of the problem is genetic: all the British with get up and go got up and went, mainly to the US, Canada and australia. There are a few outliers left who do want to get to work and get narked by the level of regulation, but most of those left in Britain are lard-arses, descended from lard-asses whose idea of a good days work has more in common with Homer Simpson than anybody else. We have families who have been on benefits for three generations, since the recession of the early 1980s, also caused by Labour.
The master who taught me carpentry learned as a boy in England just after WW-I. He served England as a royal Engineer in WW-II. He came back to a home that was destroyed and a family destitute.
He left and went to America to make a new life. He said the government that ensued after WW-II was incompetent and foolish. From him I started to study my own families flight from England the century before.
I do love England and the Thames at night is beautiful still. I regret her passing and always will as the same incompetents who brought us the England of today tell us to just be quiet because they know best. The EU is a poorly conceived system that will one day soon result in a probable Greater German hegemony. England will fall and that is so sad.
… one day soon result in a probable Greater German hegemony. England will fall and that is so sad.
Germany already controls the purse-strings of Europe. Do things her way, or no way at all.
One of two things will happen. First, the whole thing will fall apart and Europe will be warring amongst themselves. Or, two, Germany will demand and get political, military, and economic dictatorial powers over the EU and the world will be at war. Pick your poison.
Free men have the right to deep and bear arms. First things first ,you Brits need to get your guns back. Remember there are a lot more of you, than there are of them. give them a chance to leave and take George Gallway and all of their selllout polliticans with them. Then hunt the rest down. That is what you must do if you really want your country back. They won,t stick around long, once they find out you are serious. You won,t even need to burn them out they will leave on their own.
Sadly, I agree, it will come to this or England will be no more except a name and, maybe not even that.
Probably just a name.
The only thing that will survive is the monarchy. It has survived everything for thousands of years. It will survive the decimation of Britain.
London this Sunday morning:
I came out of Church, and as often happens went with my a few of my Church friends to the local pub. Stephen, the pub landlord had a big photograph of a children’s street party from the 1977 Jubilee celebrations. We asked him where he was in the photo and he pointed at an empty chair. He’d been sent home just before his Dad took the photo for fighting with his cousin.
I looked at the picture of London of 35 years ago. Things did not look very different.
Up on the TV screen the river pageant was underway. My friend Diana, who could give Her Majesty a few years, thought Her Majesty should be wearing something a little warmer. It looked like a fine day to be out on the river to me. Then the camera picked up on the guy who came to visit the small homeless shelter I volunteer for last March. What’s his name again? Oh yeah, Prince Charles.
Not very apoclaytic is it? No wonder people from th rest of Europe are flooding in to buy property here or find jobs.
Oh and BTW “limp wristed” does mean “gay” in British English. Rod Liddle is a nasty man.
I was in London and all over England/Wales 45 years ago, and so I urge all of you in U.K. to walk around the outside of Westminster Abbey – England in microcosm -then go inside and sit in one of those wooden chairs in the Nave for at least an hour or so (between Services, do some thinking on why the building has survived this long, windows intact, then join in behind one of the tour groups, look at the tombstones and think about the names….on and on……
The terrible changes visible now with the staged riots and all that are mostly due to the immigrants multiplying like fish with their entitlements draining your Treasury…….I single out the penetrating, infiltrating Muslims in particular. They simply weren’t there when I was there last. England, Wales and Scotland don’t have the space required by Muslims and their Koran. It’s not to be had, but these multiplying Muslims are displacing you natives and it’s politically incorrect to fight that.
Elsewhere I’ve posted that the Colonials, like chickens, have come home to roost. That couldn’t be helped, too much pressure on you,but what I think can be helped, and we Americans must quickly heed this advice also….is to fight, fight….the terrible “political correctness” infection.
The English Speaking Union needs also to fight “multiculturalism”. That’s the dilemma/conflict inherent in Colonialism.
Caedmon ought to bear in mind Enoch Powell’s prophetic “rivers of blood”. It is all in the making, and has been for a long time. The price to pay will be steep.
I had the misfortune to stay in Wembley (North London) for two nights recently – 10 years after I had left the area having lived and worked there for the previous 10. The place has turned into a third world cess-pit and the same can be said for far too many areas of London and the greater London area. Every shop was a discount store (“pound shop”), every restaurant was fast food (mainly chicken) and every passer-by looked at you like you were ruining their day for the simple insult of existing.
I laughed at the pictures of Hammersmith Bridge covered in the Union Jack today for the Queen’s 60th anniversary as there isn’t a soul living within a square mile of the place that isn’t 2nd or 3rd generation Asian or African who can’t stand the royals or their dead empire.
A great nation turned to pure dross. Shame.
I too mourn the demise of the Britain that once was the model for the world. I often find myself telling Britons about the spectacular achievements of their country. This usually comes after finding out they have no idea of what their country has done because those facts were never taught them. They’ve been taught to be ashamed of being British when they should be quite proud.
That said, the multiculti-subservient, binge-drinking, celebrity-obsessed society now current in Britain is certainly not something of which to be proud. The United States has a horrible political class, probably the worst in its history. The U.K has a worse one and they’ve had it for longer; the effects are far more pronounced there. Thatcher was tremendous but it took the perfect political storm to get her elected. She was a lucky accident in an otherwise unrelieved procession of political pygmies who have inhabited 10 Downing Street. One wonders what Queen Elizabeth, whose first PM was Winston Churchill, thought of Gordon Brown. He made James Callaghan look good.
As an example of how bad it has become, many Britons these days really don’t believe they have the right of self defense against thugs. Boris Johnson actually told Londoners, if they saw an assault taking place, to run away and avoid becoming involved. This from a people whose battle honors include Trafalgar, Rorke’s Drift, Lucknow and the Somme! The decline is simply appalling. Technology aside, a Briton from 1900 would undoubtedly hold the vast majority of his countrymen in open contempt for their cowardice and pusillanimity. He would be right to do so.
We’re about 15 years behind them and moving in what appears to be lock step. Either they will wake up and pull out of their tailspin or we will follow them into one ourselves and both of us will crash within months of one another.
Let’s hope they wake up.
….”mac, Caedmon, and Griffith”……smile!….now THERE’s a triad!
and both of us will crash within months of one another.
You forget that we live in the now generation. When we crash, it will be instantaneous in the same night.
My father met my mother when he was a GI stationed in the west of England during WWII. They married shortly after the war and settled in Ohio. My mother’s family were British “all the way” and proud of it. They’re nearly all gone now. I remember with particular fondness my aunts, female relatives and the the English ladies I met during my trips back to Blighty when I was a kid. All of them were as tough as nails and none of them suffered fools gladly. Like I said they are all nearly gone now.
I have been visiting England on a regular basis for nearly half a century. It is not simply nostaligia or an aging man’s crustiness to say that the people are nothing like they were in the 1960′s. Britons used to grumble a bit and then “just get on with it.” Today they are divided into their various “victimized” blocs that do little but tabulate their collective grievances for the purpose of gaining entitlements. The “governing classes” are the most timid, confused and cowardly lot of “leaders” that the island has ever produced. Most of the youth seem (note “seem”) to be swinish cads more interested in striking poses than in growing up.
The remarks above about the BBC are completely apt. The organization is a bastion of political correctness and national guilt. Everyone in the country seems to detest the EU but nobody ever does anything about it.
The old song used to be “There’ll Always be an England.” The country might exist as a geographical description but those things that made the British “British” have been banished fromt he culture.
As far as the Jubilee goes, I can’t help but believe that it’s a very good thing. Elizabeth comes from the time of Britain’s “finest hour.” She is the very personification of honor, DUTY, self-restraint, and propriety. Her very existence reminds people of the UK that once was.
Unfortunately, you are talking about Her Majesty’s mother. She is gone, and with her all that you refer to. By the way, how many aircraft carriers for this Jubilee?
Elizabeth is cut from the same cloth as her parents. That world is dead but she lives on, her existence being a witness, just as the churches stand though they are empty.
Of course, she will die soon enough and that will be the end of it. The world of the celebrity Dianas, fatuous toads, and multicult bullies will win out.
In the meantime, don’t begrudge those who still love Old England this prelude to a funeral.
Ewan McEwan, contemporary British writer, recommend some of his novels, especially more recent ones like Amsterdam, Atonement & Saturday.
Get a sense of British life and go inside an interesting mind.
Ian McEwan, not Ewan.
Everyone refers to multiculturalism, but it is NOT. There is only ONE culture that ruling elites in Britain, Europe and some other Western countries, seek to replace our superior culture with. That culture is ISLAM. A far more correct description would be ISLAMCULTURALISM. Christianity and Judaism are despised and HATED by Western ruling elites. They much prefer the god of Islam, the total opposite of Almighty God, Creator of the Universe.
The religions of Hindus, Buddhists, et, al, all share the same golden rule with Judaism and Christianity. The golden rule does NOT exist in Islam!
Because of the golden rule principal in other religions, EXCEPT FOR ISLAM, their adherents, when they emigrate to our countries, become one of us. They assimilate. They don’t make demands for special rights and privileges not given to others. They don’t seek to make us to conform to their way of life and THEIR religion. They don’t seek to annihilate our culture. They don’t seek to conquer us. They don’t seek to become our masters.
G K Chesterton ” The Secret people” extract:
And a new people takes the land, and still it is not we
They have given us into the hand of new unhappy lords
Lords without anger and honour, who dare not carry their swords
They fight by shuffling papers, they have bright dead alien eyes
They look at our labour and laughter as a tired man looks at flies
And the load of their loveless pity is worse than the ancient wrongs
Their doors are shut in the evening, and they know no songs
We hear men speaking for us of new laws strong and sweet
Yet is there no man speaketh as we speak in the street
It may be we shall rise the last as Frenchmen rose the first
Our wrath come after Russia’s wrath and our wrath be the worst
It may be we are meant to mark with our riot and our rest
God’s scorn for all men governing. It may be beer is best
But we are the people of England, and we have not spoken yet
Smile at us, pay us, pass us, but do not quite forget
Weep for Europe. Weep for Britain, and weep for America.
Centuries ago, Europe’s leaders – REAL MEN, fought desperate battles against the barbaric Muslim invaders. In our days, UK and European leaders have deliberately imported/colonized Europe and Britain with many millions of Islam’s foot soldiers to such an extent that within years Europe and Britain will be Islamic nations, ruled by barbaric Islamic sharia law. It is ethnic cleansing. Replacing indigenous peoples with another people, Muslims. It is an international crime.
In Islam, the world is divided into two. The House of Islam, are the 56 nations conquered by Muslims. The House of War, are the nations not yet conquered by Islam – the rest of the world. Western ruling elites are actively aiding and abetting the Muslim conquest of our countries.
It is the greatest betrayal by nations’ leaders in all of human history.
It is the greatest betrayal. But don’t give up. Islam will not win in the long run.
All of this Islam push is gnawing at the Catholic Church. Soon the Church will push back. That is already starting to happen on mainland Europe. Look for a sudden and devastating fatal blow to the Muslim world coming from Europe.
The new British Freedom Party is Britain’s last great hope. http://britishfreedom.org/
British Freedom and the EDL (English Defence League), have teamed up together.
Every day, the EDL leader is physically attacked by Muslims two or three times a day. The threats from Muslims to him and his family are frightening and terrible. He has to wear a bullet proof vest. The police and UK government will not protect him. One attack was caught on video. The police would still not arrest the Muslim attackers.
The EDL are demonized and lied about in the mainstream media. EDL and British Freedom are referred to as the ‘far right’ because they oppose the Islamization of Britain and oppose Islamic sharia law. The courageous EDL, who risk their lives, are harassed, hounded and persecuted by police and UK leaders.
EDL are a far-right xenophobic group who aren’t interested in freedom. They’re just a bunch of football hooligans. No right-thinking libertarian/conservative wants to be associated with that mob.
Replying to Sam: Absolute LIES.
The EDL are NOT far right. That is what the MUSLIMS, the Left, and mainstream media claim! The EDL are NOT, and NEVER HAVE BEEN far right. NEVER! I am deeply grateful to the extremely patriotic EDL for standing up for justice, FREEDOM and HUMAN RIGHTS for ALL people. EDL stand up for people of all colors, all religions. Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, Sikhs, atheists, et al.
The EDL are extremely courageous. They are REAL MEN. Thank God for REAL MEN who believe that women and children should be protected.
Linda, kindly STFU.
I actually live in Britain. The EDL are a joke, and I don’t care if they want to “defend” Britain. They are a far-right xenophobic group, that is a FACT. They are in cahoots with the BNP and have links with the Norway killer. They are nothing but a bunch of football hooligans. Yeah, they have sometimes been unfairly slighted especially on 9/11 last year when they were protesting against Islamic extremists who were doing their typical anti-Western nonsense, but apart from that THEY ARE A JOKE, and are neither conservative nor libertarian.
To the person who said there is no far-right in Europe, why are you saying that as if being far-right is desirable? It isn’t. Far-right groups in Europe are similar to the ones in America: statist, anti-immigrant and protectionist. They are thoroughly anti-libertarian.
To Sam:
You state, “The EDL are a joke, and I don’t care if they want to “defend” Britain.”. You may not care that they want to defend Britain but I care very much! EDL and British Freedom are my HEROES! They are REAL MEN! What are YOU doing to defend Britain?
Days ago, the Sikhs invited the EDL to join with them in protest against the police not caring about the young Sikh girl violently beaten and raped by a Muslim. On four different occasions the Sikh family pleaded for the police for help. The police did nothing and the HORRIFYING abuse of this poor child continued. The Sikhs know the EDL care and want Britain’s female children and women to be protected. Thank God for the EDL!
British police also ignored that many white British female children were being raped by gangs of Muslims, used as sex slaves and FORCED by the Muslims against their will into prostitution. The Muslim monsters specifically target non-Muslim girls.
Another LIE: You state about the EDL, “They are in cahoots with the BNP and have links with the Norway killer. They are NOT in cahoots with the BNP. The EDL is made up of people of different colors and religions!
Your LIE: sick, wicked smear that the EDL has links with the Norway killer is the same filthy smear that was leveled against our HEROES here in America who ALSO risk their lives to warn about Islam!
I ask you again, what are YOU doing to protect Britain’s innocent children and women?
Are you willing to risk YOUR life, as the EDL and British Freedom HEROES, and our HEROES in America and Europe?
Sam, I live in Britain too.
I would like to point out that the very start of your response to Linda was so typical of the leftists, like Labourt aand the B&P; abuse and ad hominem attacks. You and Linda disagree about the EDL, but I think you have been reading too many Guardian articles and not meeting enough real people.
I am not a member or supporter of the EDL, but I have been in some places where they have been at the same time, and their demonstrations, unlike the Muslim counter demonstrations were peacefule and disciplined, and did not involve shouting abuse at anyone.
Take your propaganda back to your employers, commie troll.
There’s no such thing as the “far-right” in Europe, let alone England. The EDL merely wish to preserve their English culture and halt the spread of islam in their country.
Britain’s already dead, it just hasn’t been buried yet.
One would normally assume that the funeral would be held in London. But, for some reason, I think doing it in Birmingham would be more fitting.
And with the Olympics coming up, and reports of London being severly over the budget, just wondering how you recapture those costs.
But it is looking from here, like the Montreal Fiasco, may be visited on London when these games are over.
For me there is one thing I like about this Olympics:
They are not in Chicago.
IL is all ready broke, the last thing we needed was to pay for a bunch of security and build some buildings that will get used once.
‘Don’t be fooled by the pomp and dazzle of the Queen’s royal Diamond Jubilee flotilla easing past the tourists, celebrity-spotters, and pickpockets on the Thames.’
The atmosphere here is great,street parties and celebrations.I don’t know why some Americans want to underplay events.
These ‘pickpockets’ were over a million citizens lining the route which also included a thousand ships
If you don’t believe me read what Melanie Phillips from the Daily Mail explain
how great it has been.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2154217/Queens-Diamond-Jubilee-2012-The-Britain-feared-wed-lost–sail-more.html
I wait to see how the anti British spin on this site reports the concert from Buckingham Palace which will include the whole country singing the national anthem like a massive last night at the proms.
And when it is done they will go back to destroying Britain without a thought that patriotism does not include destroying the very thing they supposedly admire.
Ever since the end of World War II, the Left has been working hard to remake Great Britain into Greece. They are succeeding.
Hi mags,
It was fantastic to see all the flag waving in Britain. I love that patriotism!
Britain has always been, and will always be our good and trusted ally. The majority of Americans are very pro-British. Our past and our future are intertwined. I was deeply disgusted and very offended by the way President Barack Hussein Obama treated Prime Minister Gordon Brown. I was disgusted in Obama’s insult to the Brits in returning the bust of Second World War HERO, Winston Churchill.
No Surrender!
God bless and PROTECT Britain always! My thoughts are always for our good friends and allies, the Brits.
Thanks Linda,
The tone of this article and some comments made seem very anti-British.
It doesn’t reflex whats going on here.
Honestly it like a big love in, which came as a surprise to many.
Sorry, but you have been asking for it: What you are watching is a cliffhanger. If you cannot hear the skin coming off the nails scratching the rock face overlooking the precipice as what remains of the Brits desperately try to hang on to their traditions (White, Christian, civilized) and history (of greatness, now evaporated), you must be deaf. Your perception of “spin” here is incongruous. There is pain, exasperation and disgust, but the same goes for America – and the whole of our civilization that is crumbling badly.
So take a deep breath, step back, contemplate the scene objectively, and stop using big words like “ships”; yeah, on a Lilliput voyage that would be ships. Get real, please. Boats, not ships. Boats, and never mind the number. They were small, and that is the whole story.
Actually they have decided not to decide, and so are staying the course.
Rome did the same: “The Roman Empire is luxurious but it is filled with misery.
About to die, she laughs (moritur et ridet” Salvian.
I think the quote is perfect, in this case. If they don’t care I don’t care, being like The Miller of Dee.
These seeds were sown a long time ago.
The infamous Peace Vote in which 11 million people voted (10 million to 1 million) to have peace rather than stand up for the Treaty of Versailles.
There was also the Pledge for Peace in which the Young College Students of Britian all pleadged NOT to partake in War of any sort (thus giving Hitler confidence regarding his attitude about Austria and Czechoslovikia) regardless of circumstances.
They then Put Neville (Peace in our time) Chamberlain in charge to deal with the growing threat in Europe.
When things finally got out of hand and there was no question that their survival depended on a Churchill they made the right move, but the INSTANT the danger was passed they dumped Churchill and went right back on the trajectory that has led them to where they are today.
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Unlike Britian, we here in the U.S. have a group called the Tea Party.
Think about it.
The English are too comfortable in their misery.
Yikes, Formerly Great Britain sounds even worse than Detroit!
This reminds me of a line from a Pink Floyd song: “Living lives of quiet desperation, it’s the English way.”
Maybe it’s time to nuke al the capitols of Old Europe. That seems to be the only hope for replacing the governments.
Nothing is worse than Detroit.
You try walking through Saviletown in Dewsbury as a white Christian.
There’s a song by the Kinks that is quite appropriate to the demise of GB:
All the stories have been told
Of kings and days of old
But there’s no England now
All the wars that were won and lost
Somehow don’t seem to matter very much anymore
Yes, we look really Miserable.
The whole country is covered with the union jack.As i write i am watching the free concert at Buckingham Palace.
Paul Mc Cartney is closing the celebration with a sing-a-long.
It is public holiday and there street parties everywhere but what do i know i only live here.
We used to wonder how did great ancient civilizations such as the Egyptians of the pharaohs or the Mayas disapperared from the face of the Earth leaving only ruins to display their one-time grandeur. Maybe Britain is a modern answer to what happened centuries ago?
I meant to show just how miserable we are.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/britishmonarchy/5672094414/
mags, Thank you for the fantastic photos!
Britain is a country rotting from the inside
Rather like America then.
I am a native-born Englishman, born half-way through WW2; my reading diet included Sir John Hamerton’s “The Second Great War”, which was published soon after the end of that conflict. How I learned to admire the heroic deeds of my father’s generation—and to loathe and detest the racist rhetoric of Hitler!
The article does paint a very sombre picture of a country that once ruled an Empire on which, it was boasted, “the sun never set”. I must make the following comments. One, you denigrate the BBC for being part of the problem. It has to be admitted that Lord Reith would never recognise the BBC as it is now. This does not mean it doesn’t produce some marvellous documentaries, e.g. a 2-part one on BBC2 on the fall of Singapore in 1942 and its influence on the decline of that empire. However, its broadcasting monopoly was a bad thing in that it tended to foster a “status quo” attitude. Even so, well into my lifetime radios bought in the shops included the short wavebands, which meant you could listen to foreign stations; this competition, plus a sense of professionalism, helped give the BBC(and especially its World Service)a reputation for trustworthiness. On the matter of not being able to defend yourself against burglars or muggers, the notorious Tony Martin case(where a farmer shot dead an intruder) helped focus minds somewhat, and there is just a tendency now to display some common sense. As for our gun laws, you can blame two factors: one, a negligent police force that failed to heed warnings, and two, a grubby tabloid that presumed, with blatant hypocrisy, to mount the moral high ground while still using pictures of bare-breasted women as a selling point. If you was an idea of the nonsense trumpeted around as truth you have only to go to http://www.guncontrolnetwor.blogspot.com.
Yes, Margaret Thatcher was a breath of fresh air. A thousand pities she didn’t put some paras on the streets of Bradford to band some sense into some thick heads whose only reply to a well written, non-PC article on the effects of multiculturalism was to terrorise his wife and to organise demos outside the school where he was head teacher.
Yes, the Labour Party years have been bleak and barren ones. Whether it has been making trade unions over-mighty and not answerable to the courts or else wrecking a once-flourishing defence industry and ruthlessly cutting back the armed forces, they have been “weighed and found wanting”.
Who will I vote for next time round? Good question! So far UKIP seem the only possible alternative. I am not too sure about the EDL – are they a cultural wing of the BNP? Oh well, it could be worse. Mind you, the European Court of Human Rights has at times uncovered a few weaknesses in our practice, mainly with regard to procedure for taking children from birth parents, to name one such. In the meantime, one can but hope.
There are obviously many causes–major and minor–that could be highlighted as having brought Britain to the situation it is in today, but I’ve always suspected that a great deal of the blame for Britain’s’ current situation could be laid at the door of the wholesale slaughter of what we might call the “natural leadership class,” the upper classes/aristocracy in, first, WWI and, then, the slaughter all over again of most of the remnants of that class, plus many of their descendants, in WWII, creating a massive leadership (and vision and tradition) vacuum that has been filled, and not very ably, by the second and third teams.
Add to this massive changes from WWI on in traditional English society—some inevitably brought about by political events like Britain’s retreat from Empire, and economic events like the Great Depression, but also among them the deliberate destruction of that leadership class and its wealth/society/culture and traditions by, among other things, the government policy, from WWI on, of breaking up/destroying the great landed estates/Houses through taxation, coupled with the change from a mostly agrarian, to a more industrial, then to more of a technology/service economy, and concomitant changes in job locations and patterns, that led to a corresponding move of many people from rural areas (and attitudes, customs, and values) and occupations, to cities and new occupations (and new and changed attitudes, customs, and values).
I think that the totality of those changes is responsible for both the obvious leadership vacuum and coinciding with it a gradual diminution of traditional British attitudes, customs, and values.
Add in Socialist public policies, disastrous multi-culti, and a massive influx of unassimilable and, in the case of Muslims, actively hostile, subversive, and predatory immigrants, and you get today’s burbling witches brew.
If this were an orchestral concert, I’d say that, after the intermission, it turned out that the long time conductor—taken gravely ill–had been replaced by a less talented, last minute substitute, that the new conductor pretty radically changed both the composition and placement of the members of the orchestra, and that the new conductor also chose music that was mostly in an entirely different (and less difficult) genre than had been played in the first half of the concert and, then, a crowd of strangers invaded the hall and utter choas and not a little violence ensued.
Correction. Website should be http://www.guncontrolnetwork.blogspot.com
The Conservatives are right wing only as far as fiscal policies are concerned; otherwise, they are leftwing liberals. They do not want longstanding moral values to prick their conscience. However, by siding with the Marxists in the laft parties – who are against the West – they are playing with fire which will eventually consume them.
The Angles and Saxons shouldn’t have bothered.
Trapped between the Irish and the French, what change did the have?
Great story! We’re not far away from this here in the good ol’ U.S. of A. I cannot understand people who look to Britain or Continental Europe as an example of what we should be. We’d be better off looking to them as an example of what not to do.
Finally someone that gets some of the bigger picture. Yes, the UK is, as he says, “already dead, it just hasn’t been buried yet”. But can he see even further, that the West is now led and followed by marching morons, busy in the process of burying itself – it’s the walking dead. Why should I have any further allegiance to the West when it has no allegiance to itself, is suicidal and self destructive?
Maybe if you all quit arguing in comments boxes and actually got out there and did something, then maybe just maybe, Britain wouldn’t be so far gone. Whining in a comments box changes nothing, get off your butts and do something! Anything!
I was born as WWII ended. I’ve seen the country go downhill. I agree with the article. The future will be muslim, or very, very bloody. Same goes for Europe. I left with my family three years ago. When I see TV news from the UK, it seems as though I’m looking through a window into a madhouse.
Also born UK 1945. Left for NZ five years ago to escape overcrowding and the encroaching authoritarianism of the EU. I think the EU will very shortly be taken control of by Germany to become a more powerful empire than anything the world has known. How Britain reacts to that approaching situation is the really interesting question here.
The Brits have always been renowned for a great tolerance of unpleasantness, but only up to a certain point. I do not believe that even the current PC populus would allow a German dictatorship (actual or de facto) to trample over them the way it is beginning to trample over the hapless Eurozone countries.
I am no fan of profligate Socialists but are we seriously expected to believe that the combined might of all the expert EU and German economists did not know exactly what would happen if they bribed such folk with huge handouts and cheap loans to join the Euro? Germany will eventually bail these countries out of the economic mess that was clearly engineered by the EU, but they will pay with their freedom (also deliberately engineered by the EU). Quel surprise. Then what will Britain do?
And what will the new all-powerful Germany do when it gets tired of the Muslims muscling in on its fiefdom? There are more things to be concerned about here than pickpockets and Political Correctness.
Hi SleepyJohn,
Which city did you emigrate to? NZ is NOT easy to emigrate to, however, it’s very easy for Muslims. Several years ago, NZ took in a big boat load of Muslim “refugees”. On landing one of the Muslims SLUGGED-punched one of the NZ officials (for no reason). He was still welcomed in (that would be with full free benefits-everything). Apparently, he and the other Muslims have already been informed they can do whatever they want in a non-Muslim country and provided they are Muslims, they can get away with it.
In NZ, many people were concerned about letting in this big boat load of Muslim so-called “refugees”. Why were there no females? Why were they all young Muslim males? Where did they all get their money from to make the trip, which was said to be a large sum of money?
I think the EU will very shortly be taken control of by Germany to become a more powerful empire than anything the world has known.
Merkel has already said that she wants Germany to have political control of the EU. Germany already has fiscal control. Next step is political, or no bailouts. Happening now.
Britain has been turned into America. Mass migration and multi-culturalism emanate from white American self-hatred, which has been transported to the UK, and throughout the western world.
America is to blame for the downfall of the west. Look at eastern Europe; no third world immigrants, no political correctness. Why? Answer: They were NOT controlled by the U.S. after WW2, unlike the UK, Germany, France, the Netherlands, etc. Hate to say it, but it’s the truth.
Yeah and so?
The Eastern Europeans are still poor.
Alex: When I started to read your post I thought I was reading mine. There are not many that correlate multiculturalism and white self hatred. I think that PCMC started after the oil embargo in the 1970′s as cover for the mass immigration of Muslims into Europe, then migrated to the US. I do agree that America is mostly the cause of the collapsing West. America is an self hating self destructive anti-culture. It is our fate to live in this time, watching our civilization disintegrate.
What, has the whole world gone mad? John Brennan is walking hand & hand with the very terrorist we are sending our young people to fight & risk their lives over for this country. I have never in my 63 years as a daughter of America, heard anything so ludacris in my life…This man & his ideologies are an enemy to the state. He does not have the Best for America in his mind nor his heart. If he holds so strongly to these views of his (I firmly believe he does) then send him to one of these countries that harbor terrorist and let him live there. He is reaping the benefits of a USA citizen but in is not one in his heart..He actually used the word COMPASSION in relation to terrorist. Why doesn’t he just spit in the faces of every family who lost loved ones in 911 and elsewhere. I am deeply grieved in my heart to have association with him as one of my countries leaders and severely shamed to call him a fellow American. I offer condolences to all those who have lost friends, families & loved ones to terrorism..God forgive this man, you’re the only one who can.. lol.a grandma
Mary, You may have missed one of my comments above. Americans, Europeans, Brits and other non-Muslims, are horribly betrayed by rabidly pro-Islam, anti-Free World leaders.
Centuries ago, Europe’s leaders – REAL MEN, fought desperate battles against the barbaric Muslim invaders. In our days, UK and European leaders have deliberately imported/colonized Europe and Britain with many millions of Islam’s foot soldiers to such an extent that within years Europe and Britain will be Islamic nations, ruled by barbaric Islamic sharia law. It is ethnic cleansing. Replacing indigenous peoples with another people, Muslims. It is an international crime.
In Islam, the world is divided into two. The House of Islam, are the 56 nations conquered by Muslims. The House of War, are the nations not yet conquered by Islam – the rest of the world. Western ruling elites are actively aiding and abetting the Muslim conquest of our countries.
It is the greatest betrayal by nations’ leaders in all of human history.
I just wish the folks in Britain would listen to Daniel Hannan. They need dramatic reforms, just was we do in the US, but no one seems to find the courage to do it.
I have been reading UK’s “Daily Mail” on-line for several years. Superficially, it resembles a tabloid, but the writing is very good and the stories are compelling. The stories on civil or criminal disorder are unbelievable. Some of it is from underclass “benefit” families, and the rest from British who arrived from foreign countries. This week I read an ordinary British family gave up “too expensive” housing near the city and the social services have put up a Somali family of 10 (neighbors say more than 10) in this housing free. Can’t make this up. It is horrifying.
What the politicians are proposing, saying and doing reminds one that dystopia isn’t just in novels.
If you wish to know what multiculturalism does to a decent society, this is a must-read publication.
From today’s Daily Mail:
“New immigration clampdown demands £20,000 salary for Brits to marry a foreigner”. The Home Secretary is trying to prevent 14-yr old penniless girls from being married off (by proxy)to some 50-yr old uncle or cousin from a tribal village in Asia.
How does this work? Once a family from, say, an Asian village, gets a toehold into Great Britain, has 7 or 8 children, the young teen girls of those families can be used to “marry” desperately poor men from the country of origin. This causes the immigrant population to explode in the UK. The teen girl may never contribute to the British economy, since she is pulled from school to begin a new family of 7 or 8, typically on the public dole.
Is this happening in the USA? Are US immigrant families compelling their their teen sons and daughters to marry someone from the “home village”. Go to a Brooklyn corner store in a south Asian neighborhood and ask the cashier if the baby pictures pasted to the register are for him and his wife or for his 18-yr old son and his new daughter-in-law.
And if Great Britain ever allows the definition of marriage to change from one man & one woman, you can bet that some religions will demand polygamy. Will left-wing judges agree in UK or the EU? Duh. Just imagine: One 18-yr old son could import 4 wives, get 4 free council houses, plus father 20 children!