BREAKING: Without Warning, FBI Halts Intel Sharing Update
UPDATE
The FBI has responded to our exclusive reporting this morning that they had cut off intelligence sharing of Terrorist Screening Center watch encounter reports to fusion centers nationwide. According to several fusion center officials interviewed today, the FBI is now saying that they will resume sending TSC watch encounter reports beginning next Monday. However, these reports will no longer contain Personal Information Intelligence (PII) related to the subject on the terror watch list.
As one official said, “This is like promising us free bags of M&Ms, but without the M&Ms. There is practically nothing we can do with these reports without PII, which seems to be the FBI’s intent. They want to keep up the appearance of intel sharing without actually sharing intel.”
We’ll bring you any further updates as this story unfolds.
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Without making a public or private announcement, the FBI has ended critical intelligence sharing with all 77 law enforcement fusion centers nationwide. This policy was implemented less than two days after a top FBI official told Congress about the FBI’s extensive efforts to share intelligence with state and local partners.
On Monday, a state fusion center official told PJ Media:
The FBI has effectively put us out of business. We are right back to September 10.
Two other fusion center officials in other states confirmed the FBI’s new policy to PJ Media.
On March 1, the FBI’s Terrorist Screening Center (TSC) stopped sharing watch encounter reports with the fusion centers. The Watch Encounter reports document incidents of individuals on terror watch lists having encounters with state or local law enforcement.
Until now, the Watch Encounter reports were forwarded to the fusion center responsible for the area where the encounter occurred. Since the TSC doesn’t share the terror watch lists with the fusion centers, the Watch Encounter reports were the only means that state officials had of knowing that someone on a terror watch list had either traveled to or lived in their area.
Forwarding the watch encounter reports to the fusion centers had proved helpful to the FBI, according to a fusion center official:
When we received these reports we would get the dash cam recordings from the department in question and even interview the officer who conducted the stop. We would then double-back to the FBI with the information. We also found that while the FBI field offices were supposed to be receiving these encounter reports, they were typically unaware that anything had happened.
This official also claimed that the Watch Encounter reports are the core of the FBI’s intelligence-sharing program established after the 9/11 terror attacks:
These reports have been the life blood of the system. Now all of the billions of taxpayer dollars spent building fusion centers all across the country are essentially wasted.
Okey dokey, here we go again, round and round, back to pre-9/11/01. It is DIRECTLY due to the lack of intel sharing/the wall, placed between the FBI and the NYPD, that Commissioner Kelly instituted his own anti-terror task force, deploying his best Detectives overseas.
Regardless of the reasons the FBI is now giving, don’t believe them. The POTUS wants what he wants, the breakdown of American national security.Yes, he does. His actions speak louder than his syrupy words!
For further edification, go to-www.americanthinker.com/2010/10/terror_cop.html
It tells the sordid tale.
The gallows are going to be very busy when this administration is put out of business.
I wish the author would tell us what this means, what the percieved intent, or motive is-something!! What is their to comment on? Hey FBI, what gives?
Treason is punishable with death. I’ve got no idea why this change of policy so late in Dear Liar’s regime.
Treason only applies to citizens of the United States. Barry’s proven to be ineligible for treason…among other things.
I believe ‘Treason’ only applies to citizens of the United States. Barry’s proven to be ineligible for treason, among other things.
Obviously, the “long hot summer” a la 1968 the Dems are cooking up, including O’s race war, will also include terror. Thus the thugs’ puppet has turned off the alarm system so it can all go forward.
Long hot summers didn’t work out so well for the Dems. Neither did 1968 as a whole, come to think of it.
IF THE SHOE FITS????
DEFINITION OF tyrant
In common usage, the word “tyrant” carries connotations of a harsh and cruel ruler who places his or her own interests or the interests of a small oligarchy over the best interests of the general population, which the tyrant governs or controls.
treason
· Violation of allegiance toward one’s country or sovereign, especially the betrayal of one’s country by waging war against it or by consciously and purposely acting to aid its enemies.
· A betrayal of trust or confidence.
Read more: http://www.answers.com/topic/treason#ixzz1QsLrbdUd
Oran’s Dictionary of the Law (1983) defines treason as “…[a]…citizen’s actions to help a foreign government overthrow, make war against, or seriously injure the [parent nation].” In many nations, it is also often considered treason to attempt or conspire to overthrow the government, even if no foreign country is aided or involved by such an endeavour.
sedition In law, sedition is overt conduct, such as speech and organization, that is deemed by the legal authority to tend toward insurrection against the established order. Sedition often includes subversion of a constitution and incitement of discontent (or resistance) to lawful authority. Sedition may include any commotion, though not aimed at direct and open violence against the laws. Seditious words in writing are seditious libel. A seditionist is one who engages in or promotes the interests of sedition.
Oh cuchieddie: IF ONLY IT WOULD BE TRUE. I believe they will all escape a recekoning, just like the thousands of political miscreants before them have…………..
Adina, I read your link etc., Good for your brother.
I think you/he will understand this link.
http://youtu.be/N81Js_SkXak
Regards
freepeoples, glad you read my article at American Thinker.
Nevertheless, what can’t be written about is much scarier than what was written.
The posters should know this-the actual dangers are exponentially graver than most understand. This FBI blackout is of piece with the ‘wall’, but hardly unexpected.
Enough said.
Will check out the link you provided.
Remember the original ‘wall of separation’ authored by then clinton justice department appointee jamie gorelik? The original intent was to keep certain intelligence organizations from sharing information about illegal activities done by clinton and his supporters. Is this the rationale of the current lockdown on intelligence information?
Does the administration wish for a terrorist attack so they may declare martial law?
What the F***?! I can think of only three possible reasons for this:
1 – Someone has run out of money due to waste and fraud somewhere.
2 – Someone wants to hide something (done or yet to be done), along the lines of an Operation Fast & Furious cover-up.
3 – Someone wants the U.S. to be more vulnerable to terrorist attacks.
Why would the FBI go along with this?
“Someone wants to hide something (done or yet to be done)…”
God help me but this President has made me paranoid. I’ve been expecting an October Surprise to beat all October Surprises, but I just now had a horrific image of a 9/11-ish event that would rally us feeble-minded Americans around our traitorous President right before election time. Something to dwarf even the 08 crashed economy just before that ill-fated election.
No, he has not made you paranoid. There is nothing even slightly irrational about your fears. They are grounded in a painful reality.
We have a traitor in the White House.
I’m probably in the minority here, but I don’t think an October Surprise in the form of an attack of some sort, or even urban riots or some other domestic disturbance, would help Obama get reelected. If something terrible happened this deep into his presidency, he would surely take most of the blame. He wouldn’t be rewarded with a second term. For all the slings and arrows Bush took, very few sane citizens blamed him solely because 9-11 happened on his “watch.” He was barely president nine months on that day, and his competent -though far from flawless–handling of the subsequent War on Terror and related issues ensured his reelection three years later. If anything happens–or if God willing, nothing happens, Obama, in my opinion is toast.
Especially now that the story has broken. If the story that the FBI stopped info sharing didn’t break until after the election, then it might be a cause for concern vis a vis Obama’s reelection.
I fear you are mistaken. He will be reelected. People refuse to face the truth about Obama, they prefer the dream, which is going to proof to be a nightmare and since this country has turned against God we have no where to turn.
An excuse to declare martial law and “temporarily” suspend the elections would definitely be letting no crisis go wasted.
Spooky! I was thinking the same thing, just this morning. It looks like Zero is getting all the pieces in place so he will have a reason to set up martial law, and postpone the election. Indefinitely. You remember back before the ’08 election, Zero talked about a military-sized ‘civilian national security force’? If martial law is instituted, we may see training for a new type of brown shirts. Call me paranoid or crazy, but 0bama hasn’t done a damned thing in 5 years that secures or preserves our constitutional liberties or national interests.
Divide and Conquer seems to be Zero’s strategy. Never allowing a crisis to go to waste, especially the manufactured ones, 0 and his cronies are poised to move in and take over. This summer is going to be very telling. While Fast and Furious may have failed, this Chicago Interloper will not give up, until guns are outlawed.
I hope he chokes on a dog bone.
The Director of the FBI reports directly to the Deputy Attorney General. He is a political appointee. The entire FBI is an “excepted service” organization meaning that they have their own personnel system outside the normal Civil Service. [see here, page 10: http://www.justice.gov/archive/transition/2008-transition.pdf So, cue the usual 0/Axelrod/Holder cabal….
Thanks for the information. This clears things up in a frighteningly clear way.
#3 is not beyond the realm of possibility. If one wanted to set the stage for a pre-election false flag attack, not sharing intelligence to keep the locals in the dark so they don’t interfere, would be a important place to start.
Exactly right. Hey, they have to keep there precious “informants” protected. The FBI aren’t going to allow an amatuer operation like Fast & Furious to bring down their decades long, golden goose of secret corruption. I only hope they’ve had enough of Holder to finally toss him into the legitimate justice system.
4. Something very major has happened that it is imperative that info not leak.
That seems far too incompetent–if there was something major to hide, the best way to hide it would be to keep up the regular flow of info and strip out just the items needing to be concealed.
#4. please help me, who is in charge of our dept of justice ? i can’t remember the name
In just a few words – “Holder & Obama”
Obama is the Trojan Horse, and now he’s opening the gates.
Maybe O’s trying to create jobs by stimulating the bomb shelter builders, for whom I’ve read business is booming.
Maybe Obama can throw another billion or two at underground bunkers that are solar-powered.
The Riechstag moment is coming and the co-conspirators are cutting off information to contain leaks. The country is on edge and primed to freak out if something “big” happens. Once it happens, funding will flood into those fusion centers, police, etc. to enforce the new laws rammed through in the middle of the night.
Of course this is meant as sarcasm. However, nothing would surprise me about this administration.
I don’t understand this…
“The Watch Encounter reports document incidents of individuals on terror watch lists having encounters with state or local law enforcement….The Watch Encounter reports were the only means that state officials had of knowing that someone on a terror watch list had either traveled to or lived in their area.”
These reports were the “only” means state officials had of knowing that state or local law enforcement had encounters with someone on the terror watch list??? Sounds like the only intel state officials need is the list. Is the FBI not sharing the watch list? How/why would state officials need the FBI to tell them their own state law enforcement had that encounter? That info would be flowing to the FBI not from the FBI.
A fair question. The FBI does NOT share the watch lists with the fusion centers. That was in my original article, but the editors took it out for some reason.
As for your other point, when a local officer stops somebody on the watch list, it is on the feds NCIC system. The state has no tie to the watch list itself, so the feds are the only ones who can report back on that NCIC hit.
So is it the case the feds are not reporting back to fusion center if the person turns up in the NCICS database? Were the feds doing this up until lately (Mar 1)? So this would provide people on the watch list more mobility?
Isn’t it possible that one of the more local law enforcement agencies with whom the FBI was working was corrupted–or infiltrated by the enemy? It that is the case, this move would make sense.
My first thought, as well. But then, I read too much John Le Carre.
From Mr. Poole’s article (the final sentence), “… the FBI may be required to provide such intelligence to the fusion centers by presidential executive orders and federal law.”
If so (Nobody Important is not an expert on such matters, but I often play one on the Internet), wouldn’t executive orders be all that are needed to rescind previous executive orders? See where this leads? Right back to where everything else evil in this country leads, the feet of Barack Hussein Obama. That “federal law” may also be involved in this no-longer-active process of intelligence sharing only means that B.O. needs now to call out Eric Holder’s dogs (again) to do his legal bidding in the presidentially-appointed (i.e. crony covered) federal courts.
Nobody Important has no inside information on this scenario, but sighted and thoughtful people from coast to coast can connect these dots as well as, or batter than, I can. Readers interested in some of the unmentioned pattern of wanton disregard for American national security previously ordered by our Chief Executive Barack Hussein Obama are invited to visit Another Slow News Day’s page devoted to that subject.
http://anotherslownewsday.wordpress.com/obama-national-security/
Dozens of additional, similar citations exist on a variety of other pages accessible from the branches of ASND’s Barack Obama menu tree.
Mea culpa, PJM readers. Several dozen of you accepted Nobody Important’s invitation earlier today to visit Another Slow News Day’s Obama & National Security page (see above), but I didn’t realize until several hours after extending that invitation that I had not completed the upload of information which I had intended to publish there. What you saw was a mere handful of examples (less than a dozen) when I had intended to post several dozen such examples. Those examples have now been posted to that ASND page. My apologies for not completing that data dump prior to sending the invitation.
This must be connected with the reelection of the president. Who else could have given such a nonsensical order. Everything that happens from here to November must be viewed from that perspective.
This is an odd story and one I wouldn’t be surprised they try to cover up as a “technical glitch.” Something like “our email server was down” or some such inanity.
A terrorist attack helped make GW Bush a two term president, so therefore Barack Obama WANTS a terrorist attack so he can look noble. Eric Holder will do anything the president asks him and probably wants the attack also.
Look, if there is an attack close to the election, can’t the president suspend the election during the national emergency? What about martial law? Are we really seeing this happen right before our eyes? Where is the Lame Stream Media during all of this?
Elections are not held by the federal government. I suspect that any federal order to stop the election will be defied by some governors, disproportionately in red states. Their electoral colleges will meet and they will send the votes to the Senate. Now you tell me where the feds are going to stop that, with M-16 rifles at the polling stations? I don’t think so. Arrest the electoral college electors? No way. How about break into the Senate and stop the vote certification? That’s not going to fly.
As a practical matter, the President is ill equipped to stop a US election.
Why STOP the election? Just ignore it like he does the rest of the constitution!
No way. First, the states are the entities that conduct the election. Second, if any President were to try that, I doubt the military would cooperate – and without the military, such a move would be impossible.
Rather than a new terrorist attack (which even Obama realizes would just make his first term look worse) if you wanted to be a paranoid conspiracist, I would start thinking about hiding a surge in overseas money being trucked into the Obama campaign — or, perhaps more far-fetched, setting up assassinations of Romney and his trusted campaign aides. Or maybe cobbling together some sort of federal indictment of Romney for aggravated mopery involving Swiss bank accounts — although it’s hard to see why shutting down the anti-terrorist network would help with that.
There has to be a reason why the FBI is not sharing the information. From a practical point of view, you would think that the FBI would want to keep the Fusion Centers open just to get more intelligence from the states, thereby monitoring events throughout the country in case any potential terrorist threats are about to take place. So it doesn’t make much sense to close these centers down, since the FBI is the agency getting the most benefit from them.
Unless the FBI thinks there is a major security breach in some of these centers. Perhaps the FBI believes that some of these centers are giving out information to either the press or to people who should NOT be getting this information? There could be a very real security breach going on here and the FBI is investigating it and no information is going out until the problem is solved. Until then, they don’t feel comfortable giving this information out. You never know who has access to this information at the state level and you don’t know who would be handing out this information and to what group or person. And if you don’t think there could be such a security breach, just think about how much damage Wikileaks did to the Federal government. Does the FBI think another such breach is possible now at these Fusion Centers? Maybe worth looking into, before some really sensitive information ends up in the wrong hands.
What do they expect when they’ve opened the FBI up to the Islamo Nazi’s like CAIR? We’re infiltrated. They’ve invited them in.
Are we being set up for a Reichstag Fire before the African usurper can be voted out?
This comment string seems to have the most common sense approach as to why the FBI, would withhold important information..They are realizing someone, somewhere, has gained illegal/unlawful access to reviewing the information, and are investigating, where who how they have gotten in and involved..To me if I had suspicion of such activity, I would purposely send certain information to the suspected area/zone it has been happening in/from, as we are not privy to what prompted there motive to do so in the first instance…Only speculations Like I said, I believe this to be the most logical reasoning..They have there ways, they need to..If they are to break the tye of it..They also realize whom they are dealing with reaches the very people suspected already of treason, why would you further that with good intelligence, you would with hold from those suspected of receiving such sensitive material to see what there next move is..
Before “Fast and Furious” I would have agreed with you, but now I am justifiably more cynical.
May1st 2012*****05/01/12 However you posit *it*, those who advocate it, as their embarkation to their world order, have not been shy as to the date they set sail. And thus demarcate where the rest of us have station in their *order* . Twelve days to go. How is this for an ersatz book title. *Twelve Days too May*. Some author may get to write another *Seven Days in May*, the Obama edition. Pray cooler heads and hearts prevail.
How do you know this is true? I don’t see any comment from the FBI – just a load of unsubstantiated claims by anonymous officials at the fusion centers themselves. Whatever happened to checking facts?
Why would you doubt anything under this illegal regime? Are you in denial? The government was warned about Pearl Harbor two days before it happened, and did nothing. They were warned about 9/11, and did nothing, they’ve been warned about this African despot who usurped the White House, and have done nothing.
Could this have anything to do with the administrative melt down of the FBI Crime lab?
As is, did the NCIC share managers with the FBI Crime lab, too the tune of said manager(s) corrupting the NCIC data base and opening the FBI up to legal liability for it’s use?
The Obama administration HATES American infidels. Americans are considered not worth protecting. The sad thing is, that far worse can now happen to America than the 3,000 innocents cruelly murdered on 9/11. God help America!
Here it comes. ‘Stand down’ orders before the shoe falls and then the other shoe will fall. We should expect this as we know they have been building and spending to get ready. I do not believe American soldiers will fire on American civilians … but the UN already has another plan in place.
This is the scariest story out there.
scariest story out there? how about obama and co. (d.o.j.) has sold the 2012 vote counting to a spanish owned company SCYTL who have acquired SOE, the leading vote counter in the u.s. so, the majority of votes will be sent overseas and they will let us know who won. you will never guess (coughsoroscough) who is tightly connected to SCYTL. remember, libs still believe bush stole the ’04 election.
I have just been told by a friend in the judicial system that:
“Most all federal evidence requiring any degree of analysis, other that electronic evidence, goes through the FBI Crime Lab.”
It looks more and more like the NCIC-fusion center shut down is fall out for the meltdown of the FBI Crime Lab.
Related?
“American seeks political asylum in Sweden, alleging torture, FBI coercion .
**Now all of the billions of taxpayer dollars spent building fusion centers all across the country are essentially wasted.**
The history of government. I am wondering why any of us actually pay our taxes given our knowledge of how ineffectively government spends it.
The fusion centers were always just conduits for the Department of Homeland Security to funnel grant money and act like they are the lead on terrorism. They aren’t. The FBI is the lead agency on terrorism and the real coordination has always been through the FBI’s Joint Terrorism Task Forces.
The JTTFs are operated by the FBI, maintains strict OPSEC and every state and local law enforcement officer who has access has a fully vetted security clearance. The liaisons then feed their agencies. The fusion centers were full of state and local political hacks trying to get their hands on block grants, often with agendas that compromised OPSEC for the real investigations.
What’ve I missed?
This is the 19th of April….if the FBI stopped sharing on the First of March, why is this “just breaking”?
And think about that: the FBI leadership is moving forward with a plan that could purge from its counterterrorism training materials “references to Muslims…that it deemed offensive.”
Just connect the dots!!!!
I think we must be concerned with the timing. If this is a concern about leaks,
then say so. Or is this part of the scorched earth Chicago Machine politics getting ready for “dirty” tricks.
Related? The timing of it seems interesting…
National Guard withdrawing 900 troops from U.S.-Mexico border
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/national/southwest/view.bg?articleid=1061125653&format=comments#CommentsArea
Big deal – they weren’t doing anything there in the first place. Bush only sent them down there for show when people actually thought the government should do something about illegals.
That may be so, but now there is NOBODY. Border Patrol is so overwhelmed they’d be a twig in a tsunami. I have been wondering if communists stockpiled in Venezuela will try to come through the open border?
The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.– Thomas Jefferson
Mea culpa, PJM readers. Those of you who accepted my earlier invitation to visit ASND’s Obama & National Security page may want to read my apology after comment #6 above.
Looks like the states wanted to find terrorists.
Wonder if this has anything to do with our Secret Service, and CIA being MARXISTS, as OUR President? Just saying…
This has got to be the most ignorant hotstack of xenophobic bs on the web. Do you people realize how absolutely paranoid and ignorant you are? No, you don’t. None of you clowns source any legitimate information, you do nothing but create a parallel universe and back it up with some half-ass blog that some other moron wrote. You nutbags are probably eating up piles of FOX News, RedState.com, and Alex Jones for breakfast, lunch and dinner. One of these days, maybe, just maybe, after a large majority of the bs you’re freaking out about unfolds in a completely different form and fashion than you’re “predicting” you might begin to realize how absolutely ignorant you are.
You calling it BS does not make it untrue!! Would you care to explain how you figured out is was BS? Maybe you could show us the source of your information? No?!! I didn’t think so !! Facts mean nothing to liberals as they usually get in the way of their agenda!!
Here, chew on this you pack of retarded jackals… this will confuse the hell out of you… chew on this. Oh and the National Guard troops being pulled off the border isn’t what you think it is. And neither is the FBI Intel issue you’re trying to hype the hell out of. I did a little background check on PJMedia too… funny thing, not too many of the Journalists for this site have a degree do they, forget having a degree Journalism. Lol! No, just A degree would be impressive at this point. However, the CEO of this stink-pile has a degree, from Yale… in THEATRE!! Theatrics!! Which is what the hell this is, a freaking CLOWN SHOW!! There isn’t one stitch of critical thought on this entire digital heap! It’s all agenda driven media hype intent on putting out pathetic amounts of propaganda to LEMMINGS. Enjoy your daily serving of bullshit. Here’s some real-world for ya, something you can trip out about. The U.S. is increasingly becoming involved in Mexico’s Narco-State. So how does that play into your conspiracies?
http://www.hstoday.us/briefings/daily-news-briefings/single-article/mexicos-cartels-considered-terrorist-insurgency-threatening-us-security-under-new-bill/6506e4841639b06489fafb092118af41.html
“However, the CEO of this stink-pile has a degree, from Yale… in THEATRE!! Theatrics!! ”
Former CEO of the NYT Janet Robinson, has one degree in English and second degree in “Executive Education Program”. BTW, neither Woodward nor Bernstein had journalist degrees.
All in all, the stuff you write is so weak, I assume you pretend to be a leftie. It’s a parody, right?
While 29. loujack may be a troll, the point about there being a lack of references in this article is legitimate. If we want to use logic and reason to persuade, references are important to provide independent corroboration of what we percieve as facts. I get so tired of lame stream media spouting off all sorts of declaritive statements with no references to back them up. Don’t fall into the same trap or the credibility of PJMedia content evaporates.
move along….nothing to see here….
To 30. loujack: The lack of Journalist degrees for PJMedia authors is a bonus and it enhances the credibility of the content.
Your insulting and arguementative writing style is not persuading anyone that you have a point worth reading. I suggest you go over to Richard Fernandez’s ‘Belmont Club’ columns for some seriously critical thought. Save the ad hominems for posting on the Huffington Post.
I am dumbfounded by this announcement. Whilst I do not subscribe to most conspiracy theories this is a strange one. I would have to ask the question is it because of a budget problem? Is it due lack of infrastructure? The culprit I smell is not only Holder but other organizations whom want the FBI to eliminate verbiage that they find offensive. CAIR comes to mind.
The last sentence in the article suggests that an executive order may be necessary to restore. Hmmmm! Let’s see what happens. This is worth following up with.
@SOS, you are Agenda, a tool for an Agenda. I’m not a liberal. I’m an Independent who used to vote GOP but unfortunately the GOP has pulled so far to the extreme right that A MAJORITY of Independents can no longer identify with the GOP.
You can try and toss your “liberal” labels all you want but the fact of the matter is that the corporate run GOP is currently being manipulated to put out TONS of misleading and corrupt information, propaganda, in an effort to draw out the most extreme of the party so the corporatists can roll-out their “Ayn Rand” style of economy and government. The current GOP is far to the extreme right that every single GOP President since Nixon would be to the LEFT of this current version of the GOP. Yeah, it’s that bad. Take a look at the voter map you fools. You’re party can’t win unless you move closer to the CENTER… Where you’re party used to be! Independents are NOT going to vote for ignorance. I tell you that right now. And here’s what I’m talking about. The GOP smashes the current sitting President over the “Individual Mandate” when it was the GOP plan to begin with! Get your Googler on… check it out. Nixon proposed the “Mandate” during his presidency, then in ’93 the GOP proposed it again in order to oppose the Clinton Healthcare plan. Then Obama proposes the “Single Payer” option in ’09, what does the GOP do, they get Rep. Max Baucus (R) Montana, to sell the “Mandate” to Obama as a “middle of the road” option. He buys into it and gets nailed to the wall for it. When it was the GOP’s idea in THE FIRST PLACE! Look, the GOP is a total asinine joke right now, the Dems may not be far behind at times but when it comes to voting for the lesser of the two evils… you had better wake up and look at that voter map and see how that usually shakes out. Keep on buying into the ignorance and conspiracy hype and you will only make things worse. Get a clue! Stop buying into the garbage that you are being fed. I know that’s hard but guess what, if you don’t wake up, none of what you’re freaking out about will happen the way you think and you will create your own self-fulfilling prophecy. The world has seen tougher times. This isn’t the end of the world, the Myan Calendar isn’t going to erupt into a massive pole-shift. This isn’t the “sign of the times” and it’s not the “second coming” none of that is here and now, the fact that you are convinced it is, but have NOTHING to back any of that up other than your own echo-chamber of xenophobes should start to wake a few of you up at some point. The world is out of control but not in the way that you’re being programmed to think. Go take a walk. Stay off Fox and RedState and all that other crap. IT IS ALL LIES. MEANT TO MANIPULATE. WAKE UP!
“unfortunately the GOP has pulled so far to the extreme right that A MAJORITY of Independents can no longer identify with the GOP.”
After this gobsmacking idiocy, who’s listening?
What a bloviator!
Corrections to your half truths: Nixon proposed a health care plan that required employers to provide 75% of a standardized health plan, NOT an individual mandate. It was defeated by your beloved Democrats because it was “too timid” in Sen. Ted Kennedy’s opinion.
The 1993 Republican plan did require Americans to procure insurance, however (1) It provided for vouchers to be given to people under the poverty line, (2) It gave people until 2005 to become covered, (3) It allowed self-employed people to deduct 100% of their insurance costs (up from 25%), (4) It provided exemptions for anyone with religious reasons for not purchasing insurance, (5) It allowed states to transfer Medicaid patients to a standardized plan subsidized by the Fed, (6) It included massive tort reform measures and increased penalties for fraud. The Democrat controlled Senate refused to allow it to the floor for debate.
And OOPS, Max Baucus is a Democrat, not a Republican. Kind of blows that part of your tirade out of the water, huh?
Considering your challenge to debate and noting the laziness of your arguments, feel free to name the place and time, I’ll be happy to blow you out of the water with the real truth. Oh, I don’t have a degree, although I did spend two years at Mich. St. Univ. with a double History/Political Science major until my Dad died and I had to drop out.
Have a good day.
“corporate run GOP is currently being manipulated to put out TONS of misleading and corrupt information, propaganda, in an effort to draw out the most extreme of the party so the corporatists can roll-out their “Ayn Rand” style of economy”
Putting corporatism and Ayn Rand as synonymous proves conclusively that you are ignorant as a doorknob.
“The current GOP is far to the extreme right that every single GOP President since Nixon would be to the LEFT of this current version of the GOP.”
Yap, Romney is so much to the right from Reagan – the guy who wanted to abolish Social Security, Medicare and MEdicaid.
Heh. Extreme right.
If that was true, I’d be jumping for joy. The farther to the right you get, the closer to anarchy you are.
Sounds like loujack thinks that “extreme right” = Nazi. Sorry, Jack, but Nazis are extreme left – totalitarianists.
Hey, Jack, what’s your degree? What makes you an expert on anything? Who are you to judge anyone? You really haven’t offered us much in the way of evidence of….anything.
I don’t need an English degree to speak well. I don’t need an economics degree to understand economics. I didn’t even need to go to school to understand economics well. I’m self-taught in economics, history, and politics. Does that mean in your world I’m not allowed to ever hold a job having anything to do with those subjects?
You, sir, are a Progressive Socialist. You want to enforce your own world view on your neighbors. That’s pretty anti-American.
Nothing obumer and his commie buddies do surprises me. This is the most corrupt law breaking treasonous administration we have ever had. We must vote out all incumbents and make sure we have a conservative house and Senate. No matter who is in the white house there hands will be tied. With new frsh blood we can demand investigations, arrests and trials for treason against the commies in and out of office.
I WAS WONDERING WHY THE FBI QUITE WRITTING ME I USED TO GET 50 EMAILS A DAY FROM THEM IT WAS GOOD TO KNOW WHAT WAS REALLY GOING ON IN THE WORLD BUT OTHER GOVT AGENCYS STILL WRITE NE
@exSSNcrew … pfft! Quit trying to hide behind some half-baked word usage. You can try and discredit the value of education but it doesn’t ring true. All you are doing is the same thing the Nazi Party did by suppression of the resistance movement with information. You seek to protect ignorance and keep your flock in line while blame shifting and spinning the truth in a complete 180. It works on your lemmings pal, not those who truly seek knowledge, not propaganda. It is YOU who promotes an subversive agenda. Fact. If I were to debate you. I would eviscerate every single one of your arguments so fluidly, it would make you curl up in a ball and cry. Your lies and ignorance of the issues EXPOSED. Good luck in your version of America clown show. Independents in America are not about to vote for anyone the GOP has offered up. Fact.
Not exactly. I’m an independent, and I will be voting for anybody but o.
If you can’t vote for the rep. nominee, I’d like to know how you can justify voting for o. He’s a failure all the way around, and our economy surely cannot take any more of him or his administration.
Loujack has fully vetted himself as a Marxist. By calling Max Baucus a Republican , though he is a Democrat, and not quickly backing off from your error, you have taken the Alinskyite position of never admitting that the opposition has a point. It is a dead giveaway. They have trained you well, but you have lost your soul. Poor fellow!
Jack, Nazi – National Socialist Worker’s Party
Get it? Nazis were leftists. They were a Union that got turned into a political movment, very similar to what we’re exeriencing in America. So, I’m afraid you’ve got more in common with Nazis than I do.
Regards.
http://www.chds.us/?media/openmedia&id=2170
The link is an article I wrote on a national intelligence registry for a Homeland Security essay competition in which I was a runner up.
The idea of fusion centers is a joke because originators still have ultimate control over their product. They shouldn’t because it is not theirs but ours.
The current system is corrupt and corrupting with all of the producers playing politics with our lives.
Without a national registry, you have politics and lousy security.
I am actually somewhat relieved about this information. I believe that the implementation of these Fusion Centers nationwide has created conditions underwhich information could be too far consolidated at the federal level, which shuts out state and local LE from the process. I know everyone will disagree, but we need decentralization, not consolidation! We need to empower local and state LE, and rein in the power of federal agencies! Remember, even though Fusion Centers are located within states, they are still federal agencies, and not subject to oversight by any state level agency or organization!
And I am in favor of anything which reins in the power of federal agencies!
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FBI must suspect that their data transfer has been compromised – a “leak”. Watch and see if they “re-start” soon, maybe in the next week or two, (after they protect their syatem from hackers)
May I lsuggest that we all do al little more research and really learn what is really going on in this beloved country of ours.
With the aid and cooreration of our goverments from local to federal we are systematically being posioned. Yes our bodies are peing posioned as well as our minds. Physicly–spiritualy and every other way.
So is this like drilling for oil where Obama takes credit for things he didn’t do while at the same time enacting policies that prevent these very same activities?
I have never, ever used this term before, but this action is TREASONOUS. In affect the DOJ is aiding and abetting would be terrorists by keeping local law enforcement in the dark. When the next attack comes, the chain of culpability will be short and it will lead directly to this administration.
Simply unbelievable in a post-9/11 world!
I have also read, in a communication from Act for America, that the FBI is expunging all references to Muslims that are deemed “offensive”. So, what have we learned from 9/11 after all these years?
-Islam is a religion of peace.
-Offense to Islam is a crime against humanity.
-Muslim terrorism is a response to Zionist or Crusader oppression.
-Terrorism by a Muslim has nothing to do with Islam, and is the act of a lone wolf, just workplace violence, etc.
The FBI, TSA, and CIA will more likely use their resources to protect Muslims from a backlash than to defend us from jihadi terror.
9/11 was only an accelerant in our surrender to the Islamic global caliphate.
Agreed. This is a consequence of the “Wired” articles and the Brouhaha with NYPD counter-terrorism and their “target population” profiling. Soon afterward, the FBI purged all islamo-critical info from their training materials and reports. They also hosted a delegation from the newly empowered Egyptian muslim Brotherhood last week. These updates probably involved the actions and movements of various muslims visiting various mosques doing the things that the Ikwan does . . . namely preaching submission, the supremacy of islamic law, and the various ideations of jihad (offensive, defensive, pen, dawa, sword, etc), and their plans for the coming Caliphate.
Jamie Gorelick call your office.
What an amazing story! It seems that marching moronism is infecting the entire US government.
More of the same from the regime of our fearless BO.
Agree with Trainwreck. This is a consequence of the “Wired” articles and the Brouhaha with NYPD counter-terrorism and their “target population” profiling. Soon afterward, the FBI purged all islamo-critical info from their training materials and reports. They also hosted a delegation from the newly empowered Egyptian muslim Brotherhood last week. These updates probably involved the actions and movements of various muslims visiting various mosques doing the things that the Ikwan does . . . namely preaching submission, the supremacy of islamic law, and the various ideations of jihad (offensive, defensive, pen, dawa, sword, etc), and their plans for the coming Caliphate.
I can’t help wondering if there’s a connection between this story and one that broke last week about the State Department ordering Customs NOT to follow normal protocol when they received members of the Muslim Brotherhood, who were invited for a visit at the White House. Excerpt from The American Thinker:
The State Department broke with normal procedures last week when it ordered the U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) not to conduct a secondary inspection on members of the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood’s Freedom and Justice Party (FJP) on their way to visit government officials and think tanks in the United States.
Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2012/04/state_department_bars_customs_from_inspecting_muslim_brotherhood_delegation.html#ixzz1sXuI9Z9v
My suspicion? They want to bring Sheik Yousef Qaradawi into the U.S. without detection, but he’s been banned from coming here for years.
The fusion centers are already totally worthless. They stockpile data on perfectly normal American citizens. (See Jesse Ventura’s TV show for loads on that matter.) They have an idiotic list of items a person can believe in or be involved that is supposed to indicate possible terrorist affiliation. 99.999% of the people they spy on are perfectly normal American tax-paying citizens. Their list would necessarily include 100% of everyone’s great-great grandparents! With our totally porous borders, they let everyone in and hope to catch the real terrorists by spying on and infringing upon everyone’s Constitutional freedoms. What kind of idiotic plan is that? The United States of America is no longer a free country, we are already living within a police state and it is going to get much worse very soon!
They must be planning something big and they don’t want any interference in it’s execution..Stay aware…
Based on the comments after my last post, I see why we are in such trouble.
The information is not any organization’s but belongs to the country and should not be used for institutional political purposes.
Further, the current system corrupts analysis allowing improper intervention in the process, which includes suppression of information not to the owners liking.
There should be no more ownership.
In 1985 Baen published Active Measures by Janet Morris and David Drake. It is written around the President of the US being an agent, controlled by the nation’s worst enemies.
Found fewer than 100 copies available on line this morning. My copy may be worth a lot more after the election — if there is an election ;<)
People – How long can we let these cretins keep chipping away at our country ?
I would like a few brave souls to come aboard and discuss my ‘just make them disappear program’ – off the street and into oblivion until trial time!
I did say ‘until trial time’ – keeping them occupied and questioned would be an important part of their ‘just gone status’- any bodyguards and protective groups would have to be handled and stored separately from the targeted object – minimum damage to these ancillary protective types must be stressed.
I am working now on a code phrase for identification of like minded citizens – how about ‘I’d rather be water boarding!’ – as a bumper sticker!
Most have no idea what real intelligence gathering is like. They would like to think this stuff is 100% reliable and that it involves secret squirrel information.
The reality is that most intelligence concerns trends, infrastructure, organizations, activities, and so forth. That data is then interpreted using known limits or behaviors seen in other areas. It is as easy to discover as it is to find a new Internet meme. The FBI’s intelligence for the state fusion centers can probably be duplicated and improved simply by having the fusion centers talk to each other.
That said, if this is true that the FBI simply stopped sending updates with no notice, then they’re not behaving nicely. Give people a heads-up so they can find their information from somewhere else.
Most likely, the SS goons names were going to show up when the hookers names were cross checked. After that problem is cleared up, they will suddenly say, oops we didn’t mean to break the law.
Or holders gun running finally shows he sold them to terrorists as well as drug cartels. Either way it is what the information will expose about obama that had to be silenced.
After the records are purged all will be well again, and they can go back to violating the constitution.
I have no idea what this means . The author needs to break it down.
WHAT? I feel like going out and driving around to see if the Gangstalker SS NAZIs are really out of business! I THOUGHT things had been quiet for the past couple of days; I went to the store AND the gym and didn’t have cops and stalkers all over me! THIS IS GREAT NEWS!
DOJ controls the FBI? Who runs the DOJ? That is who disregards the US law which is Unconstitutional act. Y should State and Local law enforcement trust anyone under the control of a Renegade department of our Federal Gov.