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BREAKING: ‘Deem and Pass’ Dead, Vote Still Expected Sunday

With tea party protesters filling the West Lawn of the Capitol, House Democrats agreed to drop the controversial strategy. (More from Stephen Green)

by
Charlie Martin

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March 20, 2010 - 12:08 pm

Several sources are now reporting that the “deem and pass” strategy for passing the Senate health care bill out of the House of Representatives is now dead. According to The Hill, “Rep. John Lewis (D-Ga.), one of the chief deputy whips, Rep. Melvin Watt (D-N.C.), and Rep. Eliot Engel (D-N.Y.), all [confirm] that Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) won’t use the tactic of deem and pass for healthcare reform.”

This followed a heated meeting of the House Rules Committee in which several Democrat members said they could not support the “deem and pass” strategy.  “Deem and pass,” which has become known as “demon pass” in  tea party and conservative circles, is a controversial parliamentary maneuver in which the Senate version of the health care reform bill would be “deemed passed” without a direct vote.

At the same time, tens of thousands of protesters arrived today at Capitol Hill to voice opposition to the health care reform bill.  Following a large rally on the West Lawn of the Capitol, the protesters attempted to meet with their congressional representatives.  The Washington Examiner is reporting that many of the protesters are being denied admittance to congressional offices.

Shortly afterward, Rep. Steny Hoyer (D-MD) announced that House Democrats now believe they have the votes to pass the bill after an agreement with the Senate on changes to be passed separately through the reconciliation bill.

Charlie Martin writes on science and technology for Pajamas Media.

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  1. Perhaps it’s the decades long habit of parsing everything that democrats do, but I find it difficult to believe that their abandoning this strategy has anything to do with a sudden attack of conscience. Let’s face it, the reason they came up with a strategy in the first place was because they knew darned well they didn’t have the votes to pass this thing at the time.

    So now comes the question; is it safe to assume that the Democrats feel they have the votes in hand to pass this Democrat-made train wreck without the trickery?

  2. 2. Steve DeMarcus

    When the Republican take bake the congress in November they should be just as abusive as the Democrats have been in the past 3 years and rescind or repeal as many bills already enacted by the Democrats during their three years of terror to the nation.

    Quit trying to be nice since it is apparent that the Democrats are anything other than vile and disgusting and will do whatever they can to have their way regardless of the thoughts of their constituents or the country as a whole!

    Never again vote for a Democrat (Communist, Socialist, Marxist) sine they all fall into one of those categories!

  3. Last Chance to STOP Obamacare!

    . . . Speaker Pelosi needs 216 votes on Sunday; 215 will mean defeat and will mean that congress will have to face more town halls where the people can express their opinions to their representatives.

    Every vote counts. This may be your last chance to stop Obamacare by calling the House of Representatives at (877) 762-8762 (toll-free) or at (202) 224-3121 or (202) 225-3121.

    Start with recently-undecideds, make yourself heard, and don’t take a busy signal for an answer. Their phone numbers may be found here: http://barackhatesthis.com/

    (Read more at http://www.genelalor.com/blog1/?p=1577)

  4. 4. mike

    If Democrats in the House use the process, “Slaughter Rule,” called a “self-executing rule,” it would “deem” the Senate bill to be passed without compelling members to vote for it directly. The American people will be unable to identify who voted for the bill, should that happen then the American people must vote all Democrats out of office to include those Senators who use “Reconciliation”, 51 votes, to push health Care through.

  5. 5. iconoclast

    I believe that unless the Dems loose some votes between today and tomorrow, the Senate bill will become the law of the land. And the Democrats will move on to make 12 million illegal aliens citizens, so they can manage re-election next fall.

  6. 6. David W. Lincoln

    More debt, as noted here by David Frum, http://network.nationalpost.com/NP/blogs/fullcomment/archive/2010/03/20/david-frum-a-nation-in-hock.aspx and indirectly here by Gary Lamphier, http://www.edmontonjournal.com/business/Gary+Lamphier+Delusional+refuses+look+mirror/2705963/story.html

    The US will be hobbled for quite some time, and the Democrats will join the Whigs in the US history books.

  7. 7. Katherine

    It will pass. I do not even believe that the Senate will take up the so called “reconciliation”. Why would they, when Dems already achieved their goal of socialized medicine. Question is, what do we do next.

  8. 8. Dean from Ohio

    Sadly, the Democrats will be worshipping on Sunday morning by offering the sacrifices of power, money and lies to their god–the government. The problem is that the offerings come from us, not them.

  9. 9. V for victory

    Mr. Lincoln, no disrespect, but I do not see the Whigs parallel so much. The Democrats remind me more of the insane maneuvering that happened in Congress e.g., during the Franklin Pierce administration.

    The other parallel I see is Pelosi/Reid parallel to Stanley Baldwin, the British PM who set up Britain so nicely for the Germansin the 1930s. Weakness and unpreparedness in England, easy pickings for Germany in Czecho, Poland, France and so on. After the war, even the superbly magnanimous Winston Churchill could not bring himself to speak well of Baldwin.

    Just a thought.

  10. 10. Toby

    I don’t understand how the House thinks the Senate can pass the required changes through reconciliation when they have very little to do with deficit reduction (without the fuzzy math).

    And once the senate takes up the next budget bill in April reconciliation will be all over and they will be forced to start from scratch all over again.

  11. 11. JMH

    So now comes the question; is it safe to assume that the Democrats feel they have the votes in hand to pass this Democrat-made train wreck without the trickery?

    I don’t think dropping Demon Pass means Pelosi has the votes. I think instead that someone finally hammered it through her thick skull that the strategy would never do what it was meant to do – let vulnerable Democrats vote for the massively unpopular Senate bill while still claiming they didn’t vote for it. In fact, Demon Pass was just upping the ante, making the potential cost even higher.

    They just abandoned it and went back to trying to buy or bully votes like they were doing before.

  12. 12. David W. Lincoln

    I checked the corner blog over at national review, and it is a done deal.

    Well, whatever credibility the US had left is on the train, and the train has left the station.

    Which is why, if there is anything to salvage from the destructiveness of willful blindness by the Sons of Allah (including the current occupant of the Oval Office), the Beijing Politburo (and its clients), as well as the Kremlin (and its clients) – it will have to come from the Anglosphere.

    The sharpest knives in the drawer, who are also the least politicized, would be in communication between Whitehall, Ottawa,
    Canberra and Wellington. As well as their counterparts in Seoul, Taipei, and Tokyo, and those in Europe who frankly want more room
    than what Brussels is prepared to give in order to deal with their
    nation’s balance sheets being in disarray – the phone lines and other means of communication would be as active as Eastern Europe’s were when Gorby was held hostage in the Crimea, in August, 1991.

    Closer ties economically between those groups of countries, especially when it comes to currency, as well as trade, foreign policy and defense policy.

    The days have been relegated to the past where the US, by itself, could guarantee the peace of the world.

    I find it interesting, for in “Paris 1919″ by Margaret MacMillan,
    whose great grandfather was the Prime Minister of Great Britain when the armistice ending the First World War was signed, she included an interesting tidbit. Robert Border, who was the Canadian Prime Minister at the time when the First World War ended, offered to David Lloyd George co operation to be the guarantor of the peace, just in case the League of Nations did not
    work out.

    For the sake of interest, David Lloyd George was the British Prime Minister when the First World War ended.

  13. 13. David W. Lincoln

    Step one in the realigning of the geopolitical scene: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comment/ambroseevans_pritchard/7494718/Has-Germany-just-killed-the-dream-of-a-European-superstate.html

  14. 14. David W. Lincoln

    Whoops, that should have been Borden, instead of border.

  15. 15. Ilan Ben Menachem

    I don’t understand how the House thinks the Senate can pass the required changes through reconciliation when they have very little to do with deficit reduction (without the fuzzy math).

  16. 16. Anete Simpson

    Cool article. When will I get the additional info?

    Anete Simpson
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