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		<title>By: John  "birther" Samford</title>
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		<dc:creator>John  "birther" Samford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 18:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Willis, there is NOTHING honorable about war.
Talking some nut job into strapping a bomb on or opening fire in a large room full of unarmed people is just a tactic.  As is sitting inside a box made of 4&quot; of composite armor and machine gunning people.  
War is about winning and losing, honor has nothing to do with either.  The Definition of winning varies depending on how involved in the war you are.  If you are up front where violent things happen at irregular but to frequent intervals, then winning is staying alive.  As you get farther from the place where people are actually killing each other, winning changes.  Honor might mean something to a General sitting in the Pentagon.  I wouldn&#039;t know, never having been a General.

War is sometimes necessary.  That is the best that can be said about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Willis, there is NOTHING honorable about war.<br />
Talking some nut job into strapping a bomb on or opening fire in a large room full of unarmed people is just a tactic.  As is sitting inside a box made of 4&#8243; of composite armor and machine gunning people.<br />
War is about winning and losing, honor has nothing to do with either.  The Definition of winning varies depending on how involved in the war you are.  If you are up front where violent things happen at irregular but to frequent intervals, then winning is staying alive.  As you get farther from the place where people are actually killing each other, winning changes.  Honor might mean something to a General sitting in the Pentagon.  I wouldn&#8217;t know, never having been a General.</p>
<p>War is sometimes necessary.  That is the best that can be said about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat8</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 23:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Dave Surls: MOS 99A - Combat Avoider.   Hit the nail on the head.

How dumb does Obama think we are? Oh, yea, that&#039;s right--we elected him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Dave Surls: MOS 99A &#8211; Combat Avoider.   Hit the nail on the head.</p>
<p>How dumb does Obama think we are? Oh, yea, that&#8217;s right&#8211;we elected him.</p>
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		<title>By: bandit</title>
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		<dc:creator>bandit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I blame Hasan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I blame Hasan</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Surls</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Surls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:18:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The message from Casey was clear: PC trumps security&quot;

Did you know they had to invent a whole new MOS just to accomodate Caey?

99A - Combat Avoider.

;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The message from Casey was clear: PC trumps security&#8221;</p>
<p>Did you know they had to invent a whole new MOS just to accomodate Caey?</p>
<p>99A &#8211; Combat Avoider.</p>
<p> <img src='http://pjmedia.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Dave Surls</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Surls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 07:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Republicans Blaming Obama For Ft Hood&quot;

The reason why people like Hasan are able to get and keep government jobs is because of people LIKE Obama.  Liberals have been protecting the disloyal, sympathizers with the enemy, and even out and out traitors, ever since Joe McCarthy&#039;s day....and liberals have basically been running America since 1933, so what they want the federal government to be, is how it is.

Hell, the Dems themselves will turn traitor at the drop of a hat, if they think it will serve their own interests, as they proved beyond any doubt in 1860, and to a lesser extent and less blatantly during the Vietnam War (AFTER a Republican got elected president), and while George Bush II was president.

The Dems rule during wartime is simple, if one of their boys is running the country (FDR, JFK, whoever), then they&#039;re loyal Americans...if someone from the other party like Dick Nixon or George Bush are running the country, then they do everything in their power to sabotage the war effort and help the enemy...and, that&#039;s almost always the way it is, even in Vietnam, a war the liberal Democrats got us into. 

If the party that usually controls America, and that shapes the government has no regard for loyaty to the country, and often protects the disloyal, then how can you expect loyaty from the employees of the government?

As for what&#039;s going to happen now, do you really think that a commander in chief who hangs out with America-haters like Bill Ayers and Jeremiah Wright is going to crack down on America-haters in the Army?

If you do...you be fooling yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Republicans Blaming Obama For Ft Hood&#8221;</p>
<p>The reason why people like Hasan are able to get and keep government jobs is because of people LIKE Obama.  Liberals have been protecting the disloyal, sympathizers with the enemy, and even out and out traitors, ever since Joe McCarthy&#8217;s day&#8230;.and liberals have basically been running America since 1933, so what they want the federal government to be, is how it is.</p>
<p>Hell, the Dems themselves will turn traitor at the drop of a hat, if they think it will serve their own interests, as they proved beyond any doubt in 1860, and to a lesser extent and less blatantly during the Vietnam War (AFTER a Republican got elected president), and while George Bush II was president.</p>
<p>The Dems rule during wartime is simple, if one of their boys is running the country (FDR, JFK, whoever), then they&#8217;re loyal Americans&#8230;if someone from the other party like Dick Nixon or George Bush are running the country, then they do everything in their power to sabotage the war effort and help the enemy&#8230;and, that&#8217;s almost always the way it is, even in Vietnam, a war the liberal Democrats got us into. </p>
<p>If the party that usually controls America, and that shapes the government has no regard for loyaty to the country, and often protects the disloyal, then how can you expect loyaty from the employees of the government?</p>
<p>As for what&#8217;s going to happen now, do you really think that a commander in chief who hangs out with America-haters like Bill Ayers and Jeremiah Wright is going to crack down on America-haters in the Army?</p>
<p>If you do&#8230;you be fooling yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: Jackson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 05:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan, you are 100% wrong about Army regulations. An officer can be removed simply by a &quot;show cause&quot; board, without any infraction of any rules or regulations. The Army system did not function as it should have. 

The blame for the murders is Hasan&#039;s. But the emphasis on political correctness at all levels from the President on down contributed to the tragedy. Had Hasan been separated from the Army when he exhibited his views, the loss of the 13 lives would have been prevented. Shame on the personnel at Walter Reed who acted cowardly, and shame on the politicians who over the years have made political correctness reign supreme in the Pentagon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan, you are 100% wrong about Army regulations. An officer can be removed simply by a &#8220;show cause&#8221; board, without any infraction of any rules or regulations. The Army system did not function as it should have. </p>
<p>The blame for the murders is Hasan&#8217;s. But the emphasis on political correctness at all levels from the President on down contributed to the tragedy. Had Hasan been separated from the Army when he exhibited his views, the loss of the 13 lives would have been prevented. Shame on the personnel at Walter Reed who acted cowardly, and shame on the politicians who over the years have made political correctness reign supreme in the Pentagon.</p>
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		<title>By: algie</title>
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		<dc:creator>algie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 05:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s enough blame in this CF for all
When it came time to stand none stood tall
When you come to assess
The heart of this mess
You&#039;ll find those who PC&#039;s held in thrall 

....nnnn..&#039;o.o&#039;..uu!u....algie
Illegitimi nOn carborundum

nb: For you REMFS and Draft Dodgers
    CF stands for the fine old military
    acronym &#039;CHARLIE FOX&#039; which is another
    way of saying &#039;CLUSTER F**K&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s enough blame in this CF for all<br />
When it came time to stand none stood tall<br />
When you come to assess<br />
The heart of this mess<br />
You&#8217;ll find those who PC&#8217;s held in thrall </p>
<p>&#8230;.nnnn..&#8217;o.o&#8217;..uu!u&#8230;.algie<br />
Illegitimi nOn carborundum</p>
<p>nb: For you REMFS and Draft Dodgers<br />
    CF stands for the fine old military<br />
    acronym &#8216;CHARLIE FOX&#8217; which is another<br />
    way of saying &#8216;CLUSTER F**K&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Joe in TX</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe in TX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 04:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>National suicide by political correctness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>National suicide by political correctness.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat8</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/blaming-the-army-for-hasans-terrorism/#comment-443327</link>
		<dc:creator>Pat8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 04:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Response to Dan (#18)
The primary responsibility was Maj. Hasan&#039;s. But he easily could have been separated from the service years or months ago under AR 600-8-24. The separation action is based on substandard performance of duty, misconduct, moral and professional dereliction, the interests of national security, or any combination of the foregoing. No malfeasance or criminal act need be alleged or proved.

I&#039;m ex Army JAG. I&#039;m angry and embarrassed the Army did not do its job to separate Maj. Hasan before he massacred 13 and wounded others. The reason for the Army&#039;s inaction is the overall policy of Political Correctness and the cowardice of officers who covered their asses by not asking questions and keeping their mouths shut. 

In the aftermath of Ft. Hood, Gen. Casey exemplified the Army&#039;s PC policy--and don&#039;t think all the officers down the line don&#039;t get the message. The message from Casey was clear: PC trumps security (and he virtually used those words). He was backed up by Obama.

The barn door is open; the pendulum has swung too far to the PC side. We need a rational balance--but the impetus will not come from Obama or Casey. The last thing the administration wants is to realize THE EVENT AT FT. HOOD WAS A RADICAL ISLAMIST TERRORIST ATTACK ON AMERICAN SOIL, ON OBAMA&#039;s WATCH!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Response to Dan (#18)<br />
The primary responsibility was Maj. Hasan&#8217;s. But he easily could have been separated from the service years or months ago under AR 600-8-24. The separation action is based on substandard performance of duty, misconduct, moral and professional dereliction, the interests of national security, or any combination of the foregoing. No malfeasance or criminal act need be alleged or proved.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m ex Army JAG. I&#8217;m angry and embarrassed the Army did not do its job to separate Maj. Hasan before he massacred 13 and wounded others. The reason for the Army&#8217;s inaction is the overall policy of Political Correctness and the cowardice of officers who covered their asses by not asking questions and keeping their mouths shut. </p>
<p>In the aftermath of Ft. Hood, Gen. Casey exemplified the Army&#8217;s PC policy&#8211;and don&#8217;t think all the officers down the line don&#8217;t get the message. The message from Casey was clear: PC trumps security (and he virtually used those words). He was backed up by Obama.</p>
<p>The barn door is open; the pendulum has swung too far to the PC side. We need a rational balance&#8211;but the impetus will not come from Obama or Casey. The last thing the administration wants is to realize THE EVENT AT FT. HOOD WAS A RADICAL ISLAMIST TERRORIST ATTACK ON AMERICAN SOIL, ON OBAMA&#8217;s WATCH!</p>
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		<title>By: Dwight</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dwight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 02:34:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blotto writes: So regarding you last lame comments, just what rigid CC rules/policy are there? Nice try to equivocate your PC madness with something you just made up whole cloth that is meaningless.

I am trying to help you build some credibility but you are becoming tedious.&quot;

I appreciate your effort to build up my credibility.  

A politically correct conservative MUST NEVER EVEN CONSIDER raising taxes, approving any form of gun control, accepting gay marriage, rejecting any weapons system, or encouraging any kind of union activity.  Don&#039;t even think about it; it will get you ostracized by your conservative brethren. These all may be good policy at any given time, but they also may not be...or so this centrist thinks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blotto writes: So regarding you last lame comments, just what rigid CC rules/policy are there? Nice try to equivocate your PC madness with something you just made up whole cloth that is meaningless.</p>
<p>I am trying to help you build some credibility but you are becoming tedious.&#8221;</p>
<p>I appreciate your effort to build up my credibility.  </p>
<p>A politically correct conservative MUST NEVER EVEN CONSIDER raising taxes, approving any form of gun control, accepting gay marriage, rejecting any weapons system, or encouraging any kind of union activity.  Don&#8217;t even think about it; it will get you ostracized by your conservative brethren. These all may be good policy at any given time, but they also may not be&#8230;or so this centrist thinks.</p>
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