Benghazi in the Eyes of Congress: ‘It’s Not Going to Go Away’
Anger over the Benghazi attack is mounting in Congress as Republicans watch the story shift from the errant administration blaming of an anti-Muhammed video to a White House accused of lying to lawmakers.
Mistakes may have been made in consulate security, ineptitude may have led to poor communications in the hours after the attack, Republicans say, but telling lawmakers something other than the truth when the facts were known will not easily be forgiven as we move through the campaign season and toward the lame-duck return to Capitol Hill.
With a keen focus on the economy and time-sensitive budget-related issues awaiting lawmakers in Washington, though, is there the political will to dig as deep as necessary in this roiling scandal?
“This is a very serious cover-up and the president, I’m sure, wants this to go away, the administration — but it’s not going to go away,” Rep. Devin Nunes (R-Calif.), a member of the House Intelligence Committee, told PJM today.
Members of the Intelligence Committee were briefed on the attack late afternoon on the Thursday after the Tuesday, Sept. 11, murders. “That essentially was about the video. Friday, another one about the video. Obviously, it wasn’t believable then and it wasn’t true,” Nunes said.
“Every day they cover this up it gets worse,” he said, adding that new information just conflicts with those initial briefings.
“It’s a fact that within 12 hours the Intelligence Committee knew this was an attack,” the congressman continued. “It’s a fact that administration went on and on that this was a video, which is a lie.”
“The only reason they covered this up is because of politics. Either that, or almost complete incompetence. My guess is that it was probably politics.”
Still, Nunes said, “nobody reasonable holds the president responsible for those four deaths” — Ambassador Chris Stevens, IT expert Sean Smith, and former Navy SEALs Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty — as the fault ultimately rests with the terrorists who killed them.
“What I fault him for is lying to Congress and lying to the American people,” he said.
“The best thing for the American people, Congress, government, is for everyone to come clean,” at the very least to the intelligence panels, Nunes stressed. “The last thing we want to do is go through some long investigation because people are lying, and that’s where we’re headed — and that’s really unfortunate.”
In the upper chamber, though, a Senate GOP aide told PJM that the outcome of legislators’ efforts is predictable — and dependent upon who wins the White House.
“If Obama wins, it’s over,” the aide said. “The House will hold hearings to ensure that as many aspersions as possible are cast on the character of the administration. But nothing will come of it.”
“If Romney wins, the House hearings will end in a report and Romney will say ‘never again.’”
The House Oversight and Government Reform Committee held a hearing during the campaign recess on Oct. 10. A House Judiciary Committee aide told PJM that a briefing on Benghazi has been requested of the administration, but a date for that has yet to be confirmed.
Hearings are also expected from the House Armed Services, Intelligence and Foreign Affairs committees.
The Senate Intelligence Committee announced yesterday it would hold a closed-door oversight hearing Nov. 15 on the circumstances surrounding Benghazi and intelligence in the region. Vice-Chairman Saxby Chambliss (R-Ga.) had lobbied Chairwoman Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) for open hearings.
Though the committee said “additional hearings” would follow the scheduled November one, it didn’t say whether those would be open. “To facilitate this review, the committee has already received initial briefings and is examining relevant information and documents,” said a statement.
And though Feinstein may emerge as especially critical of the administration, as was seen in the security leaks scandal, the classified nature of the hearing would work to her party’s advantage.
“I think she has been designated as the hearings point person for the Dems, because nothing that is said in her hearings can be released publicly anyway,” the Senate GOP aide said. “Clever.”
While senators welcomed the hearings, others questioned the delay.
“I’m glad the Senate Intelligence Committee will finally get a chance to investigate this matter, but the truth is this hearing should have been held weeks ago,” said committee member Marco Rubio (R-Fla.). “By the time it takes place, two full months will have passed since the September 11th terrorist attack on our consulate in Libya. That’s way too long for the Senate to ask the important questions that have been building up.”
“Four Americans were killed—including our ambassador to Libya—but their lives might have been saved had we intervened. I ask again: Where were the Marines to protect American personnel in Libya?” said Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.), who sits on the Homeland Security committee. “Instead of sending Marines to defend Americans in danger, the State Department was focused on ‘greening’ our Vienna Embassy and installing charging stations for its new electric cars. Someone must be held accountable for this inaction.”
Nunes said he expects a number of Democrats to steer clear of supporting the White House in the scandal, even before the election.
“Forget about what the actual issue is — no politician wants to be around other politicians who are lying and taking the heat from this,” he said — especially the House and Senate committee chairmen and ranking members. “They do not want to be anywhere near a cover-up.”
Plus, Nunes added, “The last thing any of us want to do is throw away the good [Intelligence Committee] bipartisanship we’ve built up over last two years.”
A member of the Armed Services and Foreign Affairs committees said “it would be a dereliction of duty if we didn’t ask questions.”
Rep. Joe Wilson (R-S.C.), who prophetically yelled “You lie!” during President Obama’s September 2009 address to a joint session of Congress, also told PJM this afternoon he believes the administration is guilty of an “intentional misstatement of the truth.”
Wilson called the “revelation of misrepresentation” in the Benghazi mess a “distorted effort by the administration to distract the American people from the failure of administration policy to address jihadists.”
“From the beginning this has just been a spectacle of obfuscation and distortion,” he said. “I sadly believe it’s an intentional cover-up. I just can’t fathom a level of incompetence to this degree.”
“Every day I find out something more horrific than the moment before. …This is just shocking.”
While the “absurd blaming of this on an obscure video” was happening, the congressman said, “I knew within 15 seconds that it was a celebration of 9/11 by jihadists.”
Wilson noted he has four sons serving in the military and counts on the president “to make every effort for their security.”
“I’ve always felt like national security was the prime function of the national government,” he said, but is “painfully aware” that the issue is polling at minimal levels with voters even in his district who are “rightfully” concerned about jobs first and foremost.
Nunes said he believes more and more people are paying attention to Benghazi because of the growing cover-up.
“But taking the politics out of this, we’ve got a problem here — a big one,” he said. “It has nothing to do with politics.”
Democrats have been accusing the GOP of politicizing the tragedy for election-year gain.
“This isn’t about politics now for those of us on the committee,” Nunes said. “Benghazi is a much larger question. It comes down to: Do you trust this president on foreign policy?”
And that question could come up in close races a week and a half from today, he said.
“Do you really trust this president on foreign policy? Do you trust him on Iran? Do you trust him on Russia when you know what he said to Medvedev?” Nunes said, adding he sees “anecdotal evidence” that foreign policy polling numbers “are going to continue to get worse for president, and it’s his own fault.”
If not for the cover-up, the congressman stressed, voters may have not paid much attention to Benghazi.
“He made it the issue,” Nunes said. “They did it to themselves. Now you’re being to see the emperor has no clothes here because the campaign narrative doesn’t match the facts on the ground.”
What’s especially “ridiculous,” he added, is Obama had a golden chance to “look presidential” if he had come out right away and announced the U.S. had been the target of another 9/11 attack.
“I think this country would have had to rally around him, even Republicans,” Nunes said.
“From the beginning, it seems the president has been more concerned with how the unfolding story of the Benghazi attack would affect his re-election, than in providing the American public and the families of those brave Americans who lost their lives, the truth,” said Rep. Renee Ellmers (R-N.C.), a member of the House Foreign Affairs Committee. ”The more we learn about the details of the attack and the response to it, the less the administration’s previous statements square with the facts we now know.”
“I urge the president to stop playing politics and give the American public a full and honest accounting of the facts surrounding the Benghazi attack,” she said.
Wilson said he believes that Obama threw Secretary of State Hillary Clinton under the bus in an attempt to deflect criticism from the White House.
“I think that she was sacrificed,” he said. “I think the intelligence community, including the CIA, was slammed.”
Nunes isn’t inclined to think the secretary was just collateral damage, though.
“Did Hillary really get thrown under the bus or was she part of it?” he said. “I find it hard to believe that she didn’t know about this and wasn’t a part of it.”
This scandalous tragedy is going to get uglier and uglier. I expect Hilary Clinton to throw Obama under the bus pretty soon once things get stickier and stickier.
REZKO, OBAMA, AND THE NADHMI AUCHI RAILROAD LINKING CHICAGO, WASHINGTON, AND BAGHDAD (Part 3 of 3)
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Correct-o-mundo, Roark. Bet the farm Hillary will spill everything she knows on Obama if the heat from Benghazi gets unbearable. When the lifejackets on this sinking ship start getting handed out, if Hillary doesn’t get one, she & Bill will make darn sure Obama doesn’t get one either.
I have an idea to solve all our problems with this administration.
With all the evidence that has come to light in the past month and half I feel we have enough evidence to say Barack Husein Obama is a TERRORIST! He should be held without council indefinitely under the very NDAA Law that he signed until we can get to the bottom of this and officially charge him with High Crimes and Treason.
We should also detain his Attorney General Erick Holder under the same law, as well as anyone else that helped Obama to pull off all the terrorist acts against this nation.
Does anybody out there agree with me on this?
A liberal asked:
“Obama terrorost. how can you say this?
Did’nt Obama issue to kill Osama?.”
answer of an American
“And Sen. Palpatine issued to kill Lord Dooku”
She can’t because she’s neck deep involved; Bill’s assembling of legal counsel makes that obvious that she is trying to at least not to be the only culprit.
Look at it this way: Jarrett told obama not to save these men; he doesn’t do nothing without her telling him too.
This is International Fast and Furious times 1000; Russia was threating to call their bluff; the turkish amb met Stevens that night, knowing that this was going to be exposed; Russia will not allow obama, clinton and panetta to once again continue to recruit jihadists in Libya incl AQ, provide them american weapons incl shoulder fired missiles; to overthrow their man in Syria, as they did with Gaddafi.
That is the real cover-up; Stevens was thrown to the wolfs, maybe because they were afraid he would talk. The turkish amb was there one hour before the attack and, soon affter – the attack started?
Plus, hillary and obama were planning a way to get the blind sheik to their comrades, the MB, in Eqypt without angering americans – surely Huma Abedin/hillary’s sidekick and MB member -were into the planning; another reason to sacrifice Stevens.
It makes sense that nobody has been fingered for the take-down since the one that gave the stand-down order was Obama himself IMO. He’s guilty of letting 4 Americans die – on American soil that he refused to protect.
What a gutless wonder…
Any other explanation just doesn’t make sense. Obama wants this to go away but in order for that to happen he needs a scapegoat. Since he’d have to admit to the American public that the buck didn’t stop at the Oval Office but at some CIA operative – or Hillary Clinton’s office – or Panetta’s office and not his office it would be a sign of weakness on his part. What a dilemma! Someone else calling the shots? Would not look presidential – can’t have that mere days away from an election.
The problem is that almost every American that knows anything about how these things work knows that when you have a tough question in the field – whether to fire upon the enemy or not – you call headquarters – and thats the White House. Its where the buck stops.
It is apparent to me that this cowardly excuse for a man could not bring himself to do the right thing. Shame on you Mr. Obama. Even if Valerie Jarret made the call the buck stops at the feet of the President. He HAD to utter those words – “stand down”. Coward!
I’ve never had so much contempt for a President in all my life. He is far worse than that spineless cretin Carter ever was! And that is saying a lot.
Of course, if Obama had an R after his name, we would be hearing the phrase: “Obama lied, four people died.”
If Obama had an R after his name the media and dems in congress would already be talking about impeachment.
If Obama had a R behind his name he would have ALREADY been impeached.
After November 6 Obama will have an R after his name: REJECTED
“Senate GOP aide told PJM…nothing will come of this.” “This” is why Americans have a problem with DC. Four brave Americans killed in addition to at least 3 killed along the Mexican border. We Americans are expendable pawns of the American Political Class. We don’t want Political solutions we want criminal or military justice solutions.
France had a problem like this and some of those rulers had their heads separated from the rest of them.
We do not want political solutions. That time has passed.
Obama depends on Karl Marx: Use the media to control the masses by controlling the message. If the truth seeps out just keep on message with the lies. Predictably the Republicans are outraged but do nothing except talk and get face-time in which ever media will have them. Nobody will get fired over this murder of 4 Americans. So the senate GOP aid knows of what he speaks. Its the election stupid. Obama doesnt care about anybody or anything else.
According to a Fox News report of weeks ago now, Petraeus told the House Intelligence Committee that the whole thing was just a carried away demo caused by that video. Now Petraeus seems to have gotten awfully shy and seems to be hiding. Maybe it has slipped his mind that he is suppose to be the DIRECTOR OF THE CIA!!!
Looks like maybe Petreaus has found a voice.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/petraeus-throws-obama-under-bus_657896.html
Petraeus showed up with talking points blaming the memo, to feed to Congressional intelligence committees, within 48 hours of the attack on Benghazi.
Look, Valerie Jarrett and Obama decided the attack had to be by protesters of the film, because why would anyone attack American interests in Libya? Obama is loved the world over, Valerie tells him every day. Since the attacks were by film protesters, had to be, any counter-attack would be construed as validating the film (understand we are dealing with the limited American liberal view of how it knows “the world” “thinks”). Also, Valerie tells Obama it is important to have a small “footprint” in Libya, because we don’t want the world to hate us again for George Bush II. So Obama and Jarrett convinced themselves it the attackers were film protesters, and declined counter-attacks as counter-productive in the long run. Hey, they’re self-described American “liberals,” they all are foreign policy experts and always “know” what the world thinks. Now, if you mention Obama bombed Libya, that’s no contradiction. Basically NATO in Europe forced him, and Valerie has constructed Obama to be the Rambo-Gandhi.
The Rambo-Gandhi.
The reason the administration lied was to further promote the media meme that all the problems in the world are caused by conservative Christians in the United States. They expected that the media would pick it up and run it without critical thought.
Republicans should make it clear that WHEN Romney is elected, and Republicans have majorities that there will be indictments. That should get the Democrats working in the White House ready to abandon ship.
Obama is going to have a very long list of pardons to sign on his way out. I’m guessing the most of any president.
Perhaps, but even if pardons were issued in anticipation of possible indictments, they would still not be shielded from testifying under oath about facts and circumstances. If they were found to be untruthful, any prior pardon would not (I believe) apply to their lack of truthfulness under oath.
They have to lie to protect themselves against the people discovering that they are arming the absurdly-named “Free Syrian Army,” otherwise known as al-Qaeda in drag. I wonder if they let Stevens be killed because he knew that the weapons were American-made and coming from Libya, and he was in Benghazi to broker a weapons deal that went south. It’s the only explanation for the depth of the lie — why it is worth doing. What’s ironic is that if Obama told us about such a weapons deal, it would be up for legitimate debate, and probably some actual bipartisan support.
Today’s NY Times, Wash Post, and all three major networks had not a single word about Libya. It feels like what I imagine Pravda was in the good old days.
What’s especially “ridiculous,” he added, is Obama had a golden chance to “look presidential” if he had come out right away and announced the U.S. had been the target of another 9/11 attack.
“I think this country would have had to rally around him, even Republicans,” Nunes said.
And Obama didn’t do that. He took to the video right away, as did Petraeus and Dempsey. They carried water for the video story, within 48 hours.
Agreed and they should be made accountable for their handling of this obvious misinformation, assuming they knew or had clear reason to believe the video was not responsible and in contravention of their testimony before Congress. I must admit that I am saddened to potentially see General Petraeus end his service to this Country on this note, but if his lack of candor here is substantiated, his service has turned to disservice.
Petraeus is showing more and more similarities to Joe Paterno-great careers fouled by huge scandals
Not Exactly. The deal didn’t go south, it was de-railed by either the Russians, Iranians or both. Assad is in serious trouble. At the rate things are going, in another year he will lose control of all of Syria except a small chunk of mountains bordering the Med. Not enough to be a viable nation. And that little bit o’ rock will be the Russian version of Gitmo. The Soviet Union at one point had influence in a large chunk of the Umma. Now the Russians are down to a small fishing village and a few valleys and mountains. Iran is even more desperate. When Syria falls, they are cut off from the Army of God. They are also cut off from Israel. So both nations have the motivation to stop the USA from arming the rebels in Syria. The MB, AQ, and various other Islamic terrorist groups make up about 20% of the FSA. They are ALL Sunni groups. The Shitte are not worried about the west attacking. They know our politicians are cowards. Men (Or women) of courage are not elected. So they know they can resolve their own issues without fear of interference.
Assad’s best hope is to hold out until the 20% starts fighting the 80% in the FSA. Then strike while they are fighting each other. Stopping arms supply by the CIA has to be #1 on their to-do list.Somebody working with the Turkish Ambassador probably provided the information needed to stage the raid.
I really doubt that Mossad was unaware of the plot. The are pretty much on top of all the spy games in the ME. So they either didn’t warn the USA or they did warn the CIA and were ignored. That happened in the 80′s in Iraq. The CIA had an entire network rolled up and over a dozen Americans captured and tortured to death. Mossad warned the CIA and were told to mind their own business.
It was a trap and the Clown Posse walked right into it. Like the fat dumb fools they are.
It will be so great to have adults in the White House again.
Could it be that Obozo was counting on a rescue mission as his October surprise? Perhaps he refused to send help because he was hoping the ambassador and his guards would be kidnapped and held hostage. Then he would send in the SEALS and rescue them, like Carter tried to do in Iran but failed. This time, the SEALS would rescue the hostages and Obama would come out looking like a hero, who personally saved the lives of Americans in danger. He would spike this football till election day: “I killed Osama AND rescued our ambassador!” and he would ride this as an example of his toughness. But things went horribly wrong.
Does anyone else believe that Obama planned this to be his October surprise to guarantee his re-election?
this is true.
You’re mostly right. Instead of sending in the seals though, Obama would’ve traded the blind sheik (who the muslim brotherhood was demanding at the time) for the ambassador. This would’ve allowed him to portray himself as a great diplomat willing to compromise to save our ambassador while in reality giving the muslims everything they want.
Wow, that’s really terrifying, if we start thinking Obama’s that delusional. Who could imagine that he could somehow, across a vast distance, control a situation as chaotic as an assault, capture under fire and abduction of an American ambassador and other personnel, some of whom are armed?
What kind of megalomania would be involved?
No, I don’t believe this was Obama’s plan. Too many people watching in real time and no rescue? Every day more details come out proving that Obama and Hillary ignored a possible rescue. It’s almost like they wanted Ambassador Stevens killed and than to blame it on a video.
More likely, A “wag the dog” scenario that was supposed to distract the US from the economy and than fade away
Does anyone else see a tit-for-tat reaction here.
Al Q:
You SEAL bin ladens fate,
We send your Ambassador to his ‘Happy Hunting Ground’
Want to dance to another tune?
I think that’s exactly what this was. Spiking the football at the DNC…
“do you trust this president on foreign policy?”
no, but the russians do – (accidental open mike) i’ll have more leeway after the election
i understand he also has the backing of chavez, castro, kim jong un (nk dictator), and every other murdering dictator that comes to mind. gosh, wonder what part of our stuff he promised them to get those endorsements?
Impeach the bastard for conduct unbecoming and dereliction of duty.
Plus, Nunes added, “The last thing any of us want to do is throw away the good [Intelligence Committee] bipartisanship we’ve built up over last two years.”
‘Scuze me?
I’m not seeing that.
I don’t get it.
I’m not impressed.
This is a unique writing style, especially for a pro.
With a keen focus on the economy and time-sensitive budget-related issues awaiting lawmakers in Washington, though, is there the political will to dig however deep necessary in this roiling scandal?
They NEEDED to make this a PRIORITY right after it happened; but no–They want to keep it covered-up. What else is new with this lying, manipulating administration. Now I know why Clinton wants out; she’s been thrown under the bus too many times.
Benghazi in the Eyes of Congress: ‘It’s Not Going to Go Away’
Why do I have the sneaking suspicion that – whether or not Obama is re-elected – it will go away. Nothing sticks to this guy. He’s like the teflon don.
It will only go away if WE THE PEOPLE allow it to go away. As my Dad used to say “Wart the hell out of them till they give in”. God Bless our Soldiers!
I totally aree with you truebluepatriot!!!
“Every day I find out something more horrific”
That’s been the case since January 20, 2009.
This bunch in the White House and elsewhere are the Chicago Mafia. It’s all about keeping power, and four guys getting whacked in Libya are small potato(e)s. These guys, these goons are four chapters ahead of the rest of us and have a compliant media to spin (or not) any “bump in the road”. Everybody’s on the payroll, folks.
Clues abound- the Louisiana “Purchase”, the Nebraska “Kickback”, Solyndra, these are mere tips of the corrupt iceberg that Washington has become under Obama and his thugs. It’s a very dirty enterprise and they hope to get four more years to continue to rob this country blind. Your children and grandchildren are on the hook to repay $16 Trillion in loans they never agreed to borrow and, it was done without a gun stuck at their heads.
Armed robbery can earn someone a lengthy sentence in prison. Un-armed robbery as this administration is perpetrating against future generations ought to be a crime but apparently isn’t. Gee, wouldn’t it be nice if any spending beyond revenues received might at least spark an inquiry? Or an arrest?
I have never seen such a blatant bunch of lies, and I am beginning to have some serious doubts about my ability to uphold the oath I took to the
President of this country when I became a naturalizes citizen. I pray that he will be out of office before more people needlessly have to die.
Ester, exercise your right to vote a an American citizen and get him out.
Larry Johnson, of noquarterusa.net, and interviewed on the John Batchelor show on WMAL, makes a very good case that 1) the “consulate” (which had no consular officers) was actually a CIA operation arming Libyan fighters for Syria, via Turkey (thus the visit to the Ambassador by the Turkish Ambassador shortly prior to the attack) and 2) the attack was actually organized by Iran, which has an interest in both Libya and Syria.
Where is Congress right now, on recess for the election. They are not doing their job. The president job is not to lie to the American people. His constitutional duty is to protect and defend America. He knew what was happening and did nothing. That is a neglect of duty. impeachable
CBS news and their terrorist allies edited out Obama saying that this was a terrorist attack during a September 12th interview.
This is going to be interesting. As has been reported elsewhere, there are systems in place that are activated when something like this is happening. These happen automatically and do not depend on someone giving their go-ahead.
One thing we know is that the CIA had real time connections with Benghazi and there was a drone overhead providing video. If the CIA Ops Center had real time connections, then the White House, State Dept and the Military Commands were also monitoring.
When the Shit Hits The Fan there are certain protocols that are activated. Notifications are made to a pre-planned list and logged. With an ambassador involved that would mean that the WH situation room was notified at the same time that the CIA Ops Center. The notification would have been a FLASH priority message which sets off a bunch of bells and whistles when it is received. There is NO chance that it could be ‘overlooked.’
The thing is, the President had to know. No one in the chain was going to take the chance on stopping the notification. The only way that could have happened would be if one of his political people, Valerie Jarrett or the CoS was notified and decided that they would shield him from it. Kind of like that scene in “Path to 9/11″ where someone hangs up on the commander requesting permission to get bin Laden.
That’s distinct possiblity in this case.
If Obama wins reelection there will be a movement by Democrats to suppress the inquiry. What we have to do in that case is to keep on ours Senators and Representative backs to support the investigation. Especially if, like me, your Congressmen and Senators are Democrats.
A hostage plan gone wrong. Stand down, stand down, stand down.
The plan was to use the video as an excuse for a riot. The staged riot a vehicle to take hostages – now dead. The hostages a reason to bargain for the release of the Blind Sheikh.
Hoodwink and bamboozle.
The Republicans, if they do not stand up and speak out about this and make sure the people who are involved are made to take responsability, should be considered guilty. We elect them to protect our intrests and our family members in harms way. If the Republicans don’t stand up and confront everyone involved and make sure they are held to the rule of law (at least) in my opinion they are as guilty as the lying lowlife administration.
If Obama wins re-election and his party retains control of the Senate, nothing will be done about it. If obama wins re-election and the Dems lose control of the Senate then there is the possibility of an impeachment, which would take at least a year while we sink further into insolvency, disunion and powerlessness for President Joe Biden to deal with. The most likely scenario is that Romney will win and the Repulicans will gain control of both houses. Hearings will go forward with great gnashing of teeth for a short while and then they all will get down to more pressing matters. Why? Because Obama will be gone, leaving only a bitter aftertaste and the faint smell of his cigarette butts. No one will want to drag his sorry ass back into the center of attention – there will too much work to do dealing with the perilous state he will have left us in.
I would add that no incoming administration has ever prosecuted the crimes of an outgoing one. The hard truth is, it’s better that way.
Deaths, though.
Same for Operation Fast & Furious.
If Romney does the same thing to the parents of Brian Terry, Chris Stevens, and Tyrone Woods that O and Hillary did, the only thing I can think of is petitioning the head of the Mormon Church to counsel the president — hard.
Of course O knew. He just lies as always. What a coward! He NEVER takes responsibility for anything & always blames someone else-just like a 5 yr. old kid. The fact that Clinton is supporting O on this is the end of her political life. The fool should be screaming & pointing at O. Not to do so is just to go down w/ the ship & ruin her for any future politics, which, is not a bad idea. So, keep covering up for ‘em Hil!
So tired of all of this. Of COURSE it will all go away! What politician is held accountable for anything-especially democrats! Obama could make murder legal & politicians would only piss & moan & simply go about their business.
Look, the CIA denied help 3x. And people died. The CIA is basically useless now. All it is is a cya organization. Much like State, 70% of everything done there is political, 20% is pure BS & 10% is ego. The most important thing, in their eyes, is their career period.
Disband the CIA, start up a new org staffed ONLY by former SEALS & the like & give them operational freedom to get things done right.
Politicians are never concerned about doing what is right. They only care about getting re-elected, what politically expediant for them & not rocking the boat. This kind of thinking let Osama go when we had him cornered, killed people in Afghanistan & is now killing people in Lybia. And, it will continue unless the CIA is disbanded & a real intelligence agency created. Nuff said!
Your comment made me realize the continuing theme of Betrayal asserted 3x. Of course it starts w/ the New Testament betrayal of Peter knowing Christ 3X, which was an ironic twist inherent in the DNC motion to remove God from their platform, voted on 3x; and now the CIA denial of help 3X.
President Nixon didn’t resign because of any felonious deed. The tapes nailed him for the cover-up, and that forced his resignation, as well as the resignation of Vice President Agnew. Let me repeat: The Nixon Administration fell because the cover-up unraveled. Now fast forward to today: The tapes were nothing compared to the latent evidence stored in government computerized email systems. The intelligence community has everything ultimately backed up and timestamped. That’s because of their power…Congress demands accountability. So watch what happens next, this isn’t going away. The meat-head generals are already contradicting each other on a daily basis. I wonder why the MSM don’t seem interested? Hmmm?
People are STILL being murdered from the fast & furious guns on both sides of our boarders and this is a 100% obumbles operation yet you don’t see or hear jackshit about this “ongoing investigation”.
NOTHING will come of this latest fiasco, just like all the rest of the ones Obummer is responible for because after all he just voted present so it’s not his fault!
The only blowback from bengazigate will be that the people serving in gubbermint positions now know without a shawdow of doubt that their lives mean absolutely ZERO to the “won” and their deaths will be at best “not optimal”.
That kinda puts a crimp on getting good political help overseas!
I imagine that only low-brow, low-IQ, low moraled & low-valued people, will be the only ones applying for overseas positions in the near future when they know that the president will do NOTHING but watch them get brutally raped, sodomized, and killed, ( and not in that order, either!) from a drone while telling the numerous military agencies to BACK-OFF and not lift a finger to help rescue anyone.
Every MB operative in the WH/Al-Quaida is filled with glee right now … even Ellison the congressman is happy with this triumph of Sharia and the ever so Marxist management of the “news”. Those are the people that need to be questioned and exposed; especially Obama’s mother-away-from-home Valerie Jarret. I’m thinking that this entire debacle was a plot agreed upon in a meeting at the WH … maybe something went wrong, or Obama was fooled by the foreigners with long robes; either way, this entire debacle is an act of total betrayal. We’re all Ambassador Stevens; we’re all “Sean Smith, and former Navy SEALS Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty.” We SHOULD be very concerned; especially with the question of which MB/Al-Quaida operative in the WH is advising the POTUS regarding the ME.
That is what he said. But when translated by the politician machine it comes out like this.
The only reason they tried to cover this up is because of the fact that the administration is running a backdoor deal to provide arms to our enemies under the guise of ensuring democracy and as a sweetener the CIC decided to go along with a snatch and trade for the blind sheik using the useful idiot ambassador to make the deal palatable to the American public.
If I say that the buck stopped at Obama’s desk, I would be excoriated and probably Holder’d and end up in some hell hole. So what I will say is something that no one with an IQ above dishwater would take on face value and believe at all and present it to you as an answer.
But I can say he lied to us and the American people because it has been printed in Pravda on the Hudson and displayed on the Communist News Network.
I would also like to see UN Ambassador Susan Rice and White House press secretary Jay Carney testify under oath who asked them to tell the story about the video several days AFTER the attack on the embassy, when the real truth was already known? Who spread that story and who told them that the video was to blame for the attack on Benghazi? I’d like to think that they at least were not part of the conspiracy to cover up the real facts. So who gave them the information (or told them the information) that the video was to blame for everything? THAT will give you the key as to who was behind all of this.
But I don’t agree that if Obama wins the election this story just dies in Congress. Far from it. I think if Obama wins the election there is a very real possibility that he will be impeached over this. This is NOT the Watergate breakin or a lie over a sexual affair in the Oval Office. Nobody died in those cases. This is about lying about the murder of four Americans, one of them the first US ambassador to be killed since 1979. I don’t think any Democrat wants to be seen as trying to defend the people who tried to cover up such a notorious crime as this.
The real problem is, if Romney wins the election, will this whole thing just be forgotten and then swept uncer the rug and ignored? Serious crimes may have been committed here and somebody should answer for them. Criminal charges should be brought against those guilty of perjury, at the very least. If you’re going to throw the book at some nobody like Scooter Libbey, then be prepared to throw the kitchen sink at the people responsible for the deaths of four Americans.
I don’t believe this story will end with the election. I’m retired a military officer, professionally informed on how emergency communications are routed. The news that multiple requests were made for assistance from the CIA Annex in Benghazi belies the statement VP Biden made in his debate that “we didn’t know.” It makes absurd Pres. Obama’s answer “nobody wants to find out more what happened than I do.” The press story that the Administration knew within two hours that an attack was underway is true, but also irrelevant. The fact that must be explained to the American people is that the request for assistance in the extraordinary occurrence of the attack on our Benghazi Consulate would have been released by the CIA Station Chief in Libya as FLASH (Z) record message traffic taking priority over all other traffic. FLASH traffic must be handled as fast as is humanly possible, not to exceed 10 minutes routing time. That traffic should have been sent to Langley, as well as to the National Military Command Center, the State Dept’s Diplomatic Security Command Center, and likely to US EUCOM and US AFRICCOM. So, within minutes of the start of the attack, procedure would have required that every relevant agency be informed. No duty officer would “sit on” such message traffic. It would be logged as received, and immediately presented to the President after informing his Chief of Staff. The attack began at about 9:40 PM in Libya; afternoon in the United States. The President, after receiving his initial report would likely have convened an emergency meeting of the National Security Council, which again, would have been recorded. (The Chief of Staff would probably have initiated the call to convene ahead of the President.) It probably DID take two hours for the NSC to physically assemble, but in that time, the National Security Adviser, SECSTATE, SECDEF, the intelligence representatives (probably DCI as well as DNI), CJCS, plus the President’s personal staff (Jarrett and Axlerod most likely) would all have been scrambling their assistants to arrive to the meeting with as much information as possible. This was not a case of important people gathering unprepared so they could watch overhead imagery. All of what I just wrote would have been documented. The deliberations that occurred in the NSC should have been recorded in minutes. That the President was persuaded to “wait and see,” is very likely. An argument must have been advanced that it was night time in Libya; that there would be Libyan civilians killed in the process of bringing in military assistance; that the President would like more “confirmation” of what was occurring before reaching a decision must have bogged down the meeting. I imagine that SECDEF, SECSTATE, and DCI left that meeting frustrated. More importantly, I believe they knew that by withholding a military response, there would be American bodies to account for when the “mob” was likely to break up by daybreak. There will be a significant set of records related to this event. Most of that has been withheld to date because it was classified, but the suggestion of a cover-up will soon enough bring forth the facts.
Published on Oct 27, 2012 Ben Swann talks about the problem of the media not holding President Obama accountable for his words and actions on the NDAA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1Kf_0mEoYU&feature=plcp
“Benghazi in the Eyes of Congress: ‘It’s Not Going to Go Away’”
So what; big F’n deal.
The Benghazi mess will go the way of the Fast and Furious scandal that resulted in???? …………oh, that’s right, NOTHING AT ALL.
The biggest lesson of the Obama’s presidency is that when the president has the media in its pocket (i.e, literally, its own propaganda outlet), the executive branch can do whatever the hell it chooses to do and suffer little to zero repercussions.
Why?? because the majority of the people never find out what is really happening.
I would venture to guess that 90% of the voters, or more, believe that the Benghazi mess was caused by a youtube video.
Obama knows that The View and late night talk shows draw a very large viewing audience and he knows he can lie with impunity on these shows and get away with it; and he does.
Worse, the TV “news” folks (i.e, propagandists for Obama and the democratic party) will NEVER ask raise a tough issue and in their interviews with him will never ask him a tough question. NEVER.
Obama knows this, and so he lies with impunity because he will get away with it.
If there any sort of congressional hearings on this Benghazi affair it will be portrayed by the media as a republican witch hunt with no substance.
So, what else is new?
The Benghazi issue will simply disappear totally, just like Fast and Furious.
And congress, in their ineptitude, their criminal negligence, CRIMINAL NEGLIGENCE, will do nothing. Obama should have been impeached two years ago for his illegal actions, but congress just sat on there with their thumbs up their ass.
If Obama gets re-elected then the only hope to maintain liberty and freedom is for the states to secede from the union.
If Congress allows these vermin to walk away without consequence from this disastrous atrocity I believe a revolt is in order with a march on Washington to force them to perform their constitutional duties. Impeach the politicians that fail to act as well as the guilty parties in the Benghazi scandal.
“We wouldn’t want to destroy the bipartisanship we’ve built…” I cannot believe he said that. Perfect illustration of how our priorities are all out of whack. This just proves that this election does not fix all our problems. If Romney allows them to walk, he will be a one term president as well.
The Young Turks Covers WeAreChange Video with Robert Gibbs POSTED BY SIERRA ADAMSON ON OCT 25, 2012
Drone Strikes – Obama Advisor Justifies Killing Innocent 16-Year-Old
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KtG4n6Ci8w&feature=player_embedded
Rep Nunes may not blame Barack Obama, but I do. He refused support for our Americans in Libya, that is treason. He is responsible for the deaths of four Americans and all of those who were wounded because he is a COWARD who cannot make a decision.
http://www.thenationalpatriot.com/2012/10/27/weekend-edition-it-was-treason-arrest-obama/
America needs to know what happened before they vote for Commander in Chief NOV 6th. Yeah, we do. Don’t hold your breath though. >>>Make sure you help your countrymen and women GET INFORMED. The 10/27 episode of Justice with Judge Jeanine (FOX) had Ty Wood’s dad speaking, as well as top military brass. UNBELIEVABLE. Vote Obama out – he doesn’t deserve to be an American, let alone POTUS!
http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2012/10/25/benghazi-obamas-actions-amount-to-a-shameful-dereliction-of-duty/
Nonsense.
Congress after grandstanding and playing to the gallery before actually examining what Benghazi? whose Bengazhi? shall fall back on their customary question “what’s in it for me?”
Who do we fear more, Obama and his troops or the electors?
Congress and wannabees being realist know the game. Obama as the ultimate symbolic figure, why else Messiah, with his brownshirts in media and on the streets agree on their goal to “fundamentally transform” America and the means they deploy ruthlessly to that goal.
Voters on the other hand are rivals for the goodies dispensed from government. Can be, hsve been, and are even now pitted against one another in pursuit of their goals. These same people in Congress theoretically “represent” US, i.e. We The People. Congress is not a royal court despite the quasi royal status of its members.
Congressmen/women being realists know their constituents act on the same principle “what’e in it for me”. As Legislature Congress creates laws and taxes for dispensation from the US Treasury “…for the general welfare of the United States…”
That treasury is composed of money compelled in law in the tazation process from productive citizens and enterprises. Those citizens with their creativity, enterprise and labours who are the engines of the nation.
Moneys in the US Treasury dispensed to citizens who provide their votes but little else to feed the symbiosis with their Congresspersons. A matter of robbing Peter to pay Paul?
Those Congresspersons of the democratic persuasion, with their friends on the other aisle, know that to fulfill their “dream from their fathers” they need only deploy the treasury. Until they “run out of other peoples’ money”.
Not only to individuals but to enterprise management who do not or cannot balance their books. OR persons who provide “campaign contribution” and other inducements to guarantee the continued tenure of their favoured “representatives of the people”.
Entitlements and welfare provisions no questions asked as long as quid pro quo for tenure in Congress forthcoming OR socalled bailouts of business enterprises.
Robbing Peter to pay Paul.
Both examples of the direction these Obamanistas and their forbear democrtic libersls of post 1900 have managed these United States of America.
These United States of America that Once upon a time…
“Still, Nunes said, ‘nobody reasonable holds the president responsible for those four deaths’”
Ya’think?? … NOT!!!
SOME of WE THE(reasonable)PEOPLE think that if it’s shown that the WH situation room was watching the events taking place at the Benghazi “consulate” and “annex” and squashed relief/rescue efforts – then the Pres SHOULD be held responsible for those four deaths … in addition to the lies told trying to cover up all that took place before, during and after.
The ONLY way for congress to act, and have it stick, is for them to come out swinging for the fence. We know that the mam is going to immediately call it a witch-hunt politically motivated to hurt the president and the dems. So, we need SHOCK VALUE form the get go: LIES – MURDER – COVER UP need to cover the pages. All this gentlemanly, sissy, pusillanimous “disengenuous” and “not been forthright with the American people” won’t get it done. Either they will have the guts to do it right, or they will allow him to skate by again with his criminal dereliction of duty.
Benghazi cover-up is one more proff Obama is a radical muslim MOLE:He gives arms to Al Quaeda instead of fighting them.He should be accused of complicity of manslaughter in the murder of ambassador Stevens and the four bodyguards
It is interesting to note that you expect Hill to throw The One under the bus. Of course, if things were not so convoluted it would be the natural thing for her to do. In other words, save yourself first.
However, Hill is very shrewd, and this blogger believes that doing so may well expose her to other legal offenses, leading straight back to her to her closer than close aide, Huma Abedin. Now, as far as I am concerned, surely marching all of them into jail cells would be more than worth the circus. It would be the patriotic thing to do too.
So, bengazigate-leads-straight-back-to-obamas-door-explosive-video-links-commentary-by-adina-kutnicki/ tells the part played by the Islamist-in-Chief – and hillary-takes-the-fall-for-the-potus-in-bengazigate-but-there-is-a-silver-lining-shining-the-spotlight-on-huma-abedin-addendum-to-uncovering-the-tip-of-huma-abedins-spear-the-house-of-al-sa-by-adinakutnicki – leads straight back to Hill & Huma’s doors.
Happy hunting….payback is a bitch too!