Before Talking About Gun Control, First Learn Something About Guns!
If you read a few lines of Robert Creamer’s latest contribution to the Huffington Post, you’ll get a good idea of why we can’t have a real discussion about gun laws in this nation:
Our laws currently ban guns made of plastic, because they cannot be identified by metal detectors.
There are very few Americans who would support repealing our current laws banning guns on commercial aircraft.
AdvertisementFor many years we have banned personal possession of large caliber machine guns — including those that could bring down airplanes.
In 1994, Congress and the president passed a bipartisan assault weapons ban that outlawed private possession or sale of specific types of fully automatic and semi-automatic weapons whose principle uses are to kill people in war or by police forces. That bill also banned the possession and sale of high-volume magazines of the sort that allowed Jared Lee Loughner, the accused Tucson killer, to fire thirty-one shots in rapid succession before stopping to reload. That bill sunset in 2004, and the Republican Congress and Bush administration refused to extend its provisions.
Had it still been in effect it would have been likely that Loughner — who bought the magazines legally — would have had to reload after firing off only ten rounds, which was the maximum magazine capacity under the assault weapons ban. Since nineteen people were killed or injured, that would have prevented the death or injury of at least another nine human beings.
“A political organizer and strategist for four decades” according to his author’s bio, you might think Creamer — the husband of a congresswoman — might know something about the law. Shockingly, every comment he’s made exposes the vast amount of ignorance policy-makers have regarding firearms — both real and imagined.
The weapon they wield indiscriminately is their most powerful and effective.
“Unfortunately for this nation, we can’t have an honest discussion about firearms because neither the mainstream media nor the gun banners in the Democratic Party feel that they should educate themselves to a passable level of understanding about firearms and what they are (and are not) before trying to implement laws based on fear, disinformation, and myth. Instead they prefer ignorance. It is too bad that is the weapon they prefer to wield so indiscriminately.
Spot on.
I prefer the anti-liberty extremist dumb and ignorant. It has been the case for the past twenty-five years or so I’ve had the pleasure the debate them. Not once have facts gone through their rotten brains.
If I were a gun-grabber, I’d at least try to study the subject matter prior to spewing ignorance all over the net. They simply make themselves appear total fools with their ‘well-researched emotional opinions’ and idiotic terminology.
All they’re able to do is spin a’la the Brady bunch.
This is silly: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_KgIqQvYUs3I/S7tX5MNIfVI/AAAAAAAAWYI/_E7HT9paH-w/s1600/Humor_funny_journalists_guide_to_firearms_ak47_glock.jpg
To grabbers, start here: http://guncite.com/gc2ndmea.html
What a man has not been reasoned into, he cannot be reasoned out of.
What a man has not been reasoned into, he cannot be reasoned out of. Jonathon Swift
Spew alert! For the first link. Thanks for that, I hadn’t seen that one.
Come on Bob.
You are confusing the leftists with facts.
And lefties NEVER let facts get in the way of their delusions.
Especially this leftie, and his wife as well. Creamer and Schakowsky are liars of such immense proportions that to describe their capacity for deceit would take the natural lifespan of a crossword puzzle addict. As for Creamer’s bio, one is sure he does not inculde the fact that he is an admitted felon, and has done time in federal prison. For fraud.
You have to wonder if politicians are as ignorant about everything else they pontificate on as they are about firearms. I imagine they are, maybe more so.
“We have to pass the bill to know what is in it.” NP
Pretty much sums it up regarding your speculations.
I cannot think of one single thing that Ms Pelosi and I agree on. That said, you can’t misquote in order to prove a point. the actual quote is “[b]ut we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it, away from the fog of the controversy.” The fact that no one actually knew what the entire bill said would still hold true whether or not you chose to quote incorrectly.
Not only politicians. Consider all of the news stories you’ve read, about subjects familiar to you, that have been riddled with errors. Surely you don’t think the media only gets things wrong when writing about your own area of expertise, do you?
Thing is, most politicians know nothing but politics, just as most journalists know nothing but journalism. The two groups are probably the most narrowly educated and experienced in America.
yDoug,you don’t have to wonder any longer. They just had the test results of questions asked of ordinary citizens and Congressional memebers about the Constitution and other US laws and the citizen beat the law makers by over 5%. Nothing like reading up on a new job before you get there huh?
I have never owned a gun and never fired one except when in military service. Nevertheless, I agree with the following: “Laws that forbid the carrying of arms… disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes… Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.” – Cesare Beccaria, On Crimes and Punishment, quoted by Thomas Jefferson in Commonplace Book.
The American cities with the highest gun crime rates have the strictest gun possession laws, e.g., Chicago, DC, etc. Democrat politicians want to disarm law-abiding citizens not because it reduces gun crime but because it “feels good” and panders to their liberal constituents, who, like Mr. Creamer, are usually ignorant about guns.
Taking away Second Amendment rights will not make us any safer, just less free.
And and “An armed society is a polite society,”
The late great Robert A. Heinlein
An armed man is a free man, Robert A. Heinlein.
TANSTAAFL
Robert A. Heinlein
When guns are outlawed, only Mexican drug runners and human smugglers will have guns….
South of the border guns are VERY illegal. The Brady Campaign no doubt has wet dreams about the idea of imposing Mexico’s gun laws on the U.S. And of course Mexico is a peaceful society…… Of course then you get the same ignoramuses claiming that the Mexican drug cartels get their arms from gun stores in Texas and Arizona. If that is true, I have just got to get down to a Texas gun store and buy myself an RPG, a few spare grenades, and some full-auto AK-47s. Of course NONE of THOSE weapons would actually be coming from the corrupt Mexican military and police forces (who make up much of the smuggling cartels as well)…..
An editorial in the American Rifleman (NRA publication) put it very well: why would a drug lord worth tens of millions of dollars, who practically owns the Mexican police and military, bother purchasing weapons from U.S. gun shops? They would (and do) simply purchase them on the black market or from the Iranians.
If memory serves correctly, didn’t this guy serve felony time on an embezzlement conviction? He’s just squatting in his own filth for being a prohibited person who can’t legally own a firearm and now has to resort to buying unservicaable Raven .25s on the city block from crackheads. His ilk would undoubetedly sanction breaking into a National Guard armory and arming up with M-60s and M-240Gs in order to deploy that grail-like ‘persuation of power’ they keep spouting off about.
SHHHHH!
Don’t tell them that they’re writing bogus legislation or they’ll make an attempt to write REAL legislation.
Like I said a few days ago; “We look like a nation of fools”. And these politicians try their damnedest to provide more evidence of this fact every day, by broadcasting their ignorance.
If our enemies every stop laughing, they might just lob a missile at us just for grins. And I’m sure from their satellites, we look like an ant hill that’s just been kicked.
I’m surprised Creamer knows so little about guns, for an ex-con. Oh, yes: Federal time-out, for fraud and embezzlement.
OK; I Have the solution to the crime,and violence in our society.As the majority of all crime,And violence in america,Is commited by liberals,And they,By their rhetoric,and arguments,are so sensitive,and offended by the words,and beliefs spoken by others they,are so offended by.And by their own words say that what offends them,Leads to crime,and violance.Like,Jesus christ,One nation under god,Free speech,The constitution,The declaration of Independence,The Pledge Of allegience.Our military,Individual,And religious freedom.and move them to the country’s that agree with them.Socialist,Marxist communist,Sharia’law islam,etc.Where government rules over the people,And death panels,Are the Activities of the day.Plus for those marxist communist activist mao se tung worshipping liberals we can give them to china in exchange for our debt to china.After all most of our debt is because of social liberal programs”Socialist”As far as Sharia’law Islam.Send all those like mayor bloomberg,and obama,and his attorney general.who want to build a shrine to the 9/11 hijackers,make victims out of terrorist,And the clintons who have gotten rich off of making america,and israel subservient to our enemies.Epecially sharia’law islam.Bottom line they prefer communism,And sharia’law islam,Over our founding documents,and Judeo-Christian Principals.Oblige them.Send them to nations where those things Rule.Plus crime,and Violence.Will be almost Obsolete when they are gone.That is what their intentions are With america,Now isn’t it?
Gun control is for people who themselves are insecure about their self defense capability.
They should issue a gun to each passenger of an airplane who believes he (or she) would stand against being destroyed in the name of some obscure cause.
The ban against ‘assault weapons’ was due to their LOOK, if you remember correctly. They were intimidated by the appearance of the gun. The secondary ‘reason’ was large cap magazines. But every one knows it’s very easy to drop a magazine and stab another one in place in less than 2 seconds, if you practice.
Gun controllers are really government control advocates, or closet socialists. They may not even recognize they are. But that is the problem with MANY on the left. All want some form of ‘more’ government control for their particular fright or insecurity.
Citation without comment:
http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2011/01/20/woman-arrested-in-razor-blade-assault-at-del-mall/
“Unfortunately for this nation, we can’t have an honest discussion about firearms because neither the mainstream media nor the gun banners in the Democratic Party feel that they should educate themselves to a passable level of understanding about firearms and what they are (and are not) before trying to implement laws based on fear, disinformation, and myth.”
The gun-banners in the Republican party are not Einsteins either, the latest mentally challenged being King the-1000-ft-idiot.
The Rs could have repaired 80 years of gun-grabbing, but they chose not to. I do not trust them either. An anti-liberty extremist is an anti-liberty-extremist regardless of the party.
“Shall not be infringed” DO NOT somehow translate into “reasonable restrictions apply”.
Libbies are uninformed about most subjects but that does not stop them from rambling on. If they spent one-quarter of their time tending to their own business their lives might be productive and useful; instead they spend 99% of their time trying to control the lives of others and run the nation off a cliff. The drive to disarm the American people marches in lock-step with the emasculation of men and boys, censorship of speech, public non-education, promotion of all that is perverse, and interference with the daily diet. If we were all immoral, disarmed, weak, puny sissies without one functioning brain cell who spewed forth only the party line we would be very easy to control and would, thus, become the servants of the ruling class. I think this is exactly what the Libs want: an army of drones to work hard and support the lifestyles to which the rulers want to become accustomed. We need to disregard all demands made by these people and block them at every turn. Firearms are becoming increasingly important to the health and safety of the American people.
It is Rush with the “ditto” heads!
Don’t make the all-too-common mistake of confusing the lefts perpetual willingness to LIE with IGNORANCE!! Were all of the things you mentioned clearly KNOWN to Creamer, he would lie about them anyway.
It is sometimes hard to tell the difference with these folks, isn’t it?
I’d look into banning scissor’s, abortion and abortion doctors and clinics if I really wanted to stop killing. Of course had Kermit Gosnell used an ASSAULT WEAPON with flash suppressor, bayonet lug, pistol grip and a high capacity magazine to murder those late term babies he would be demonized by the press and those same abortion is a right bunch of ghoul’s.
There is only one point in the discussion about guns:
WHY NOBODY IN THE CROWD HAD A CONCEALED CARRY PERMIT and a gun THAT WOULD HAVE ALLOWED HIM/HER TO STOP THE MASSACRE OR AVOID IT ENTIRELY ?
Let me guess the answer: because the subversives believe their own lies.
The only result of the gun-ban efforts is:
arming the criminals, disarming the citizens.
This is the only result they WANT.
They WANT that because they ARE subversives.
The HATE law and order.
Period.
Columbine, Fort Hood, Tucson…nothing would have happened if the victims had had readily available guns.
These are the crimes of the subversives, we must turn the table of this discussion.
Sherab, there was indeed an armed civilian carrying a weapon at the site of Loughner’s massacre. He was nearby when the shooting started ad rushed to the scene. He helped secure the shooter and the weapon. His presence was widely overlooked because as he arrived the shooter was being subdued and had been disarmed, so he assessed there was no need to draw his weapon to help secure the crime scene.
This also undercuts another fiction cited by gun grabbers, that permit holders will arrive on site and start randomly blasting away at everyone else they see with a weapon. This did not happen, much to the Brady Bunch’s dismay, to be sure.
I just want to share a little story that is absolutely true, at least as well as I remember it. Many years ago (back in the late 1960s) when I was a young man and just back from the Army, a very cute young woman moved into the house across the street.
She was pleasant, & we would chat occasionally out on the street (yes I was married at the time), but she was heavily into Leftist ideology & the hippie culture of the time, which meant she hated guns. In fact she hated handguns with such a passion that if she ever had to touch one, I could just see her holding it like holding a dead rat by its tail, and saying something like – Ouuu, Ouuu, Ickey-Poo.
Well to continue with my trip down memory lane, one night a guy tried to break into her house. By chance, I was awake and had let our new puppy out into my back yard when I heard the tinkle of broken glass from her house. So looking out the front, I saw some guy trying to crawl into her window.
Those were the days long before cell phones, so he had cut her phone line. She was awake and terrified. I grabbed my S&W Model 29 (.44 Mag) and charged across the street, the guy instantly surrendered as my wife called the police. The cops were very gracious (after all I live in Alabama where guns are appreciated) and so was she. This story ends as a couple days later she asked me to help her buy a gun, and I recommended a nice little S&W Chief’s Special in .38 Spl caliber. She kept it under her pillow thereafter, at least until we eventually moved away. This story only shows that even the worst anti-gun Leftist can see the light under the right conditions.
Conservative = liberal who has just been mugged (or in this case, burglarized).
Most of the conservatives I know were liberals until their first paycheck.
Been There,
Thank you for your service and saving your neighbor’s butt.
Nothing converts faster gun-grabbers than a robbery, rape or elections. My neighbor had front lawns full of Obama signs in 2008. A week after the elections he approached me with a request to teach him how to use his newly-acquired arsenal. He had purchased firearms of all kinds – I’d not have bought any of them. After two practice sessions he quit, most probably because my wife’s shooting skills were too much for him. We never talk about guns anymore.
I offer free firearms training for women. Most decline. Those who are willing to try usually are very impressed with their shooting and that changes their outlook.
The only Gun Control I’m interested in is being able to put bullets on intended targets.
You guys in America are lucky.We, in Australia are NOT allowed to own firearms unless we own a farm and keep the guns in a proper locker. If you really want a gun,well,anyone can get one one the street,so it really does piss me off that only the crims are the ones armed. We do have a very low rate of violent crime but I think that is down to a good upbringing and not anything else.
A friend of mine owns a condo in Mexico. He says Mexican citizens can’t own firearms. So the only ones armed are the police – who are corrupt – and the criminals. And judging from news out of Mexico, that policy does not seem to have prevented much gun violence.
A well written slice of what we have happening.
But it also points to what is more pervasive, more unsettling, and less rooted-out: For example, the NRA serves a good function, but as a part of the political play, where they are the enemy of the ignorant and the instigators, they are partners with ‘the enemy’ so as to all stay in business. In all, neither ignorant nor stupid, the play is the thing.
Certainly stupid laws are passed daily, needing opposition; they are so stupid they fall like leaves. The NRA is on the ready before and after the fact. All the morons are happy, the polarized busy and successful, the ‘enemies’ taking turns.
The mother’s milk of politics flows while the political class toys with insurrection, as the stakes get higher and higher and wealth dwindles.
The awesome difference today in this scenario from the past is that some are not doing their proper part in playing the game, death is the referee.
The land of milk and honey has locks on every door to energy and progress; the rule-makers shuffle their papers and cluck their tongues and count their fiat money and preach ‘free from freedom’ banning any responsibility since they will take none themselves.
Arguments about gun rights or how many angels can dance on the head of a pin over a nice cup of tea with Vivaldi in the background — so much more civilized than someone holding a gun in your face, that there is then no argument.
That your very life is not your own, even worse than the specter of the taxman; so, holding that gun also means never having to say, “The answer to you my friend is No . . . and . . . Are you going or are you staying?”
Game over.
If guns weren’t used to kill people mainly, I’m sure Japan would be able to make all kinds of cool guns and then export them all to the U.S..
I’ve learned about a knife made in Japan that uses ceramics, made by Kyocera? They had to add some metal stuff to it so it could be detected.
Slaves were worth 3/5 of a person during the first draft of the Constitution. I have a feeling that the attitude hasn’t changed much since then, with people being worth 4/5 of a Most Valued Person these days.
The Nuge said it best: “gun control a la Ted Nugent is putting the second shot through the same hole as the first shot….”
The Lefties are THA VULNAURABLE ones
The big dynamic is personal security. When people are allowed to own firearms and use them they don’t need to depend upon local law enforcement so much.
When they aren’t allowed to use them the local politicians are allowed to suspend the citizens need for security against thugs if they won’t vote for more money for government. Oh–you ignorant peasants don’t want to increase taxes? We’ll scale down the extent of your police protection. We won’t scale down our diversity appreciation efforts, but we will scale down your police protection you little nasty people. Don’t bother calling us if you’ve been burglarized or your car is stolen, we have better things to do like writing tickets (that produce revenue for the local government) for the evil bastards that are riding around without wearing their seat belts, or that are driving with expired inspection stickers.
And the more that local police departments fail to perform the functions that the citizens expect them to perform, the more they expect from the citizens in the way of tribute (taxes). Its a mechanism for blackmail.
In rural areas where gun ownership is high local law enforcement is often relegated to the function of arranging to clean up the corpses of the perps after their victims or would-be victims have dealt with them. Even in some of the southern cities like San Antonio its not uncommon for would be armed robbers to be blown to hell by their victims. Usually this doesn’t even merit a paragraph in the local newspaper.
“The big dynamic is personal security. When people are allowed to own firearms and use them they don’t need to depend upon local law enforcement so much.”
Tcobb,
Good post.
The irony, of course, is that courts up the SCOTUS have ruled that cops have no responsibility to protect a citizen. I’d prefer to take my chances anyway.
In addition, even most of the Shall Free states restrict the self-defense to a point of ridiculous and hazardous.
God Bless Texas.
captaincrumpy
“We do have a very low rate of violent crime but I think that is down to a good upbringing and not anything else.”
You’re not suggesting that we in America do not raise our kids properly?
Any firearm is only as dangerous as the person wielding it. In many, many untold stories, they have saved more live than they took. But, as usual lets not let the facts get in the way of our grandiose ignorant legislators, it might get them to thinking a softball can kill the Nations spirit.
If you can’t keep guns out of the hands of criminals, then any gun control legislation is futile.
Most posting here know at least a bit about firearms. The Congressmen likely know less it then becomes revealing to us how off base and simply wrong headed about the subject. Now take this same “knowledge base” and attitude of these people and apply it to each of these important issues of the day. See the potential for disaster, and that’s what we have today. The economy, jobs and health care and on and on. I noticed this as a youngster growing up each time my name was in the local paper for sports the paper got a detail wrong. I knew it was wrong because I knew the topic well. same thing here they are clueless most of the time IMO.
Man, I miss Kim and Connie when this kinda stuff comes up…
I am deep, deep into the gun culture. I have shot competitilvy in college and in the Marine Corps. I still shoot competitively in pistol and Skeet. I’ve been a multi-discipline certified instructor, and an RKBA activist, debating, sddressing various public gatherings and occasionally testifying before legislative committees.
One of the things I have learned over the years is what the author has pointed out: the gun-grabbers don’t know what they are talking about.
I don’t mean trivial quibbles, like the difference between a “clip” and a “magazine,” I mean real, substantive issues, such as what the law provides at the present time, or what the gun culture actually does.
For example, they are militantly unaware of the fact that semiautomatic pistols are what competition shooters use in sanctioned matches, or that semiautomatic military pattern rifles, what they foolishly call “assault weapons,” are what we use in hi-power rifle matches. Likewise, they remain ignorant of how competitive shooters consume ammunition, that is by the case, firing hundreds of rounds in a single outing.
And they do not want to know. It is a matter of true vincible, i.e., culpable, ignorance. They could easily find these things out: the information is all over the internet. They could ask us. Gun people love to talk about the game and the gear. It’s hard to shut us up when we start talking guns. They wish to be in the dark.
It is fascinating to consider how it has come to this. After all, those so-called “progressives” are always bragging how brainy they are. Why wouldn’t they be amassing some empirical, research-driven knowledge? I believe that his is due to real irrational, invidious prejudice. They have this idea that guns are a straight White male thing. This is not exactly true, as plenty of women and minorities of all kinds like to shoot, but they believe it as a myth, and vent their hatred of permenent things on guns.
Another wellspring of irrational hatred of guns is their faux pacifism. Guns are violent. People who use guns are the kind of people who actually volunteer for the military, and the high-minded peace-creep left is too pure to want to know anything about weapons.
So be it. Let them wallow in their ignorance, the better to consistently dominate them whenever the question comes up.
“It is fascinating to consider how it has come to this. After all, those so-called “progressives” are always bragging how brainy they are. Why wouldn’t they be amassing some empirical, research-driven knowledge?”
I recall debating a Harvard professor for two years on CNN’s gun forum some twenty years ago. He was extremely arrogant, usually addressing us with “those who have the IQ lower than that of a pet rock’s”, and unbelievably ignorant. His sources were mostly Brady Bunch’s ‘statistics’ in addition to intentional statistics he was unable to decipher.
During the two years we tackled every imaginable firearms-related issue. He demonstrated his ignorance in every post but, as a typical grabber, he never gave in an inch regardless. I mean, how stupid can you get?
I learned my lesson: never engage a grabber into a dialogue, and never give in an inch – ever! They’re not after gun control, but control of Americans.
The thing is, the Creamers of the world DON’T CARE that they get the facts wrong; and the people who elected them don’t care that they get the facts wrong either.
They are PROUD that they don’t know much about guns.
They just know that guns are EVIL, and the people who own them, and like them, etc. are evil low lives, too. In their world, guns are the province of yahoos and Neanderthals. Think Deliverance.
In short, we’re barking up the wrong tree.
We are also dealing with a VERY powerful psychological force called “Denial.” It can’t happen to me. It doesn’t happen to people like me. It’s why you don’t want a lot of women on the jury if you’re a woman who’s been raped. Those women on the jury will convict YOU of having BEEN in the wrong place, wearing the wrong clothes, at the wrong time, etc., etc. ANYTHING so that they don’t have to face the fact that it COULD have happened to them, too. In short, it’s YOUR fault you got raped, because otherwise it could have been THEM.
Obviously I’m over-simplifying, and many women are better informed now, but there are still WAY too many of the kind I describe.
So, the only reason you ignorant stump jumpers think you need your guns is that there are too many in-bred, ignorant PWT like you. It’s YOUR fault.
What will turn this around — what IS turning this around, IMO — is women. Women are afraid of a lot that’s been going on, and they feel helpless. There a few things as wonderful as seeing the transformation that takes place when a woman sees herself put a bunch of holes in a target. Talk about EMPOWERING! Whooping, and hollering, and YEEhahing!!
Yes, YOU did that!!! tell her. (Makes you, the instructor, feel pretty good, too.) Ask her to show you pictures of her kids.
Please note. This is not the night to show off your Glock and 1911. You get the idea.
Remind me of this:
http://ncguns.blogspot.com/2010/10/why-ignorant-people-should-never-make.html
Check it out. A gun blogger, debating a gun-control enthusiast, baits her… and she walks right into it with her eyes open, thinking that she knows what she’s talking about.
respectfully,
Daniel in Brookline
Isn’t this the case (untruths and fear-mongering) for nearly every law and bill established by Democrats?
No wonder Mao lover’s are all Progressive’s?
August 24, 2009 / Richmond Times Dispatch
Long time Anti-Gun Advocate State Senator R.C. Soles, 74, shot one of two intruders at his home just outside Tabor City, N.C. about 5 p.m. Sunday, the prosecutor for the politician’s home county said. The State Bureau of Investigation and Columbus County Sheriff’s Department are investigating the shooting, Gore said. Soles, who was not arrested, declined to discuss the incident Sunday evening. The Senator, who has made a career of being against gun ownership for the general public, didn’t hesitate to defend himself with his own gun when he believed he was in immediate danger and he was the victim. It has prompted some to ask if the Senator believes his life and personal safety is more valuable than yours or mine. But this is to be expected from those who believe they can run our lives, raise our kids, and protect our families better than we can.
These pudknockers lost how many Conressional seats a few weeks ago?
Shooting in Butte, Montana
Butte , Montana November 5, 2007 — Two illegal aliens, Raphael Resindez, 23, and Enrico Garza, 26, probably believed they would easily overpower home-alone 11 year old Patricia Harrington after her father had left their two-story home. It seems the two crooks never learned one thing; Patricia had been a clays shooting champion since she was nine. She quickly ran to her father’s room and grabbed his 12 gauge Mossberg 500 shotgun. Resindez was the first to get up to the second floor, only to be the first to catch a near point blank blast of buckshot from the 11-year-old’s knee crouch aim. He suffered fatal wounds to his abdomen and genitals. When Garza ran to the foot of the stairs, he took a blast to the left shoulder and staggered out into the street where he bled to death before medical help could arrive.It was found out later that Resindez was armed with a stolen 45 caliber handgun he had taken from another home invasion robbery. That victim, 50-year-old David Burien, was not so lucky. He died from stab wounds to the chest. She is still alive, the bad guys are dead, and you probably never heard the story before now. Ever wonder why this sort of positive gun story never makes NBC, CBS, PBS, & Pravda MSNBC, CNN, ABC or NPR(our tax money went where?), news? Pretty obvious, isn’t it? This story doesn’t fit the liberal mainstream media view that guns are bad and need to be controlled. Had this story happened in California or any other state with gun lock and storage laws, and had the father obeyed those counterproductive, unconstitutional laws, the girl would be raped, dead or both, the home looted, and two dirtbags would’ve been out on the street to rob, rape and murder again.
Not to diminish your overall point–that firearms are of great utility in thwarting criminal aspirations of all manner of thugs–this particular story is an urban legend.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/crime/homeinvasion.asp
Why are all the liberal news organizations going out of business?
A brief look into history should enlighten the “Progressives” in our fair land. In the early 1900’s there are several historical instances of leaders that insisted on the disarmament of their people. Their names should be familiar to you: Vladimir Lenin, Josef Stalin, Adolf Hitler. All of these men enforced disarmament on their people. All of them are known as some of the most sinister men in history. Notably, Hitler could never have achieved as much as he did without civilian disarmament. He disarmed his people, used the Hitler Youth program to brainwash the young, and “cleansed” his nation, as well as conquered territories of the “undesirables,” whom he referred to as “untermensch” or subhuman. The unarmed civilians were an easy target for his armies, and the SS was used to intimidate and control other Germans and prevent dissension. In retrospect, people lament the atrocities that happened under Hitler, but the German people then never saw it coming. They had been seduced by a charismatic leader, who convinced (and when necessary coerced) them to give up their weapons. The Nazi reign of terror began with false news reports on the Jews, Bohemians and Gypsies who were said to be arming themselves to overthrow the “New World Order” and Hitler demanded that all good people register their guns so that they wouldn’t fall into the hands of “terrorists and madmen”. Right wing fanatics of the “Old Order” who protested firearms registration were arrested by the S.S. and put in jail for “fomenting hatred against the Government of the German people”. Then the Reichstag (government building) was blown up and Hitler ram-rodded an “Emergency Anti-Terrorist Act” through Parliament that gave the Gestapo extraordinary powers. The leader then declared that for the well-being of the German people, all private firearms were to be confiscated by the Gestapo and the Wermotten (federal law enforcement and military). When several local ministers spoke out against these atrocities, they were imprisoned and never seen again. In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated. In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated. China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated. Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated. Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated. Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million educated’ people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
Direct hit! (Forgive the weapons analogy.) Their ignorance comes from the same mindless phobia about guns that drives their determination to ban them in the first place. They just can’t bear the thought of the evil things, and so can’t stand to learn anything about them. I feel the same way about vasectomies, but I don’t try to keep braver souls from having them. More sass at http://www.granitesentry.com.
As a Prohibited Person, Robert Creamer should start a new organization, Felons For Gun control.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2005-08-31-congresswoman-husband_x.htm
I used to do some IT consulting work for this PoS. He’s an oxygen thief.