although, she should have kept her title, i wish she had resigned, she knew they were out to get her in the dirtiest of ways.

However, she will do fine. She is a example to people that should and need to have a voice!!!

AND WHERE IS DONALD THE MOUTH WHEN HE’S NEEDED????

“the nastier the liberals get, more skeptical
(if not outright with antipathy) mainstream
America will regard their soooooo! legitimate
causes for protests, rants and commotion.”
This is true in both directions. It is something to keep in mind when posting here. Personally, I am not fish nor fowl — not a liberal or conservative, in the way folks ’round here seem to think of it — but pretty solidly in the center of things. Extremely hateful posts/articles/shows from the Left tend to push me to the right; ugly mean-spirited posts/articles/shows from the Right make me lean left to avoid the radiating ugliness.

Yet, even when looking at this situation I still can find a silver lining here – I am left with Hilton Perez’s rants and videos.
And this is not little thing, because the nastier the liberals get, more skeptical (if not outright with antipathy) mainstream America will regard their soooooo! legitimate causes for protests, rants and commotion.
So, sorry for Prejean, but now Perez Hilton has entered in the public consciousness – and he’s not a pleasant vision to entertain.
We need more Perez Hilton-s, they help a lot!

Read no further than Wikpedia and the references therein. In addition, you might want to check out :

American Psychological Association (APA) website
‘Homosexuality: Innate and immutable?’ by Dr A Dean Byrd and Stony Olsen
`The Masculine Journey’ by Dr Robert Hicks

and for a quick intro to the above :

Homosexual researcher Simon LeVay, who attempted to find a genetic basis for homosexuality by examining the differences in the hypothalamus between “homosexual” and “heterosexual” males, has written: “I didn’t show that gay men are born that way, the most common mistake people make in interpreting my work. Nor did I locate a gay center in the brain.”

from AP May 5, 2002

have a nice show me yours kind of say

You’re kidding, right? Your expert is a physicist, not a geneticist. He’s playing with hobby-level statistics, just for something to do on his day off, and you’re taking this as serious science? He says, inter alia, that “Actually, we can be pretty sure that there is no gene that codes for male homosexuality . . . There is no positive evidence. There is no positive evidence for any explanation, really.”

And from this you are trying to extract some truth to support your position? As your source says, there’s no support at all. The only reasonable explanation that stands up to the most rigorous analysis is that homosexuality is deviant. In plain English, it’s a sin. Why are you so afraid of this explanation? Isn’t it about time to man up to it and admit that it’s a sin and that you enjoy being deviant? And spare us the phony scientific explanations!

Nah. I rely on the experts who know stuff about evolutionary biology and such. They’re the ones who know.

Here’s one take:

http://gc.homeunix.net/home/post/5

And chances are he’s correct. Bear in mind it’s not a good idea to dismiss the smartest guy in the room out of hand, because this guy is that guy in almost any room you can find. Here’s an idea: why don’t you email him tell him it’s a sin. You won’t, because in a debate he’d tear you to shreds.

I’m certainly not going to debate people like you. I have no need: this is what experts are about.

There are other EXPERTS who may disagree with Cochran, some who will assume a more conventional approach and suggest hormones in the womb and/or gene malfunction. But they all agree on one thing: it’s physiological.

OK, I showed you mine. Show me your renowned expert.

You obviously, ‘know’, quite a bit not supported by the evidence. On this as on other topics you have some tidbit yanked out of context and suddenly, it’s the total explanation. Homosexuality is far more complex than your simplistic assertion implies. As with many other things, there is an entire range of causes for the range of behaviors commonly called homosexuality. Were you sincerely interested in the causes, you’d know that. Obviously you just picked your favorite excuse or rationalization and now proclaim it.

Homosexuality is a sin. Theft is a sin. Just as there are homosexuals that cannot control themselves, there are thieves who cannot control themselves. That doesn’t alter the fact that both are sins. The same is true of a wide range of things classed as sins. That’s human condition, they’re sinners and can’t even keep themselves from indulging in the sins they have particular weaknesses for.

Reading is not a sin, although your comparing homosexuality to a the learned ability to read is interesting. Does that mean that both are learned skills? In this and other posts you’ve made, you seem to be the one who avoids reading for whatever reason.

You’re in real trouble now, there will be Christians praying for you.

have a nice midwestern day

WHERE do those anachronistic, simplistic notions come from? And why do those of you who express those retarded opinions use them as a springboard to announce your supposed superiority?

And what’s with getting on Carrie Prejean’s case for going topless, or whatever? She’s a Christian, NOT Amish. Seriously.

As to my fellow “conservatives and libertarians’ (what do those labels mean anymore?), what’s with getting infected with the same celebrity virus as your detractors? Carrie Prejean is a 21-year-old beauty contestant, not a “conservative spokesperson.” It’s appalling how she was treated, granted, but does that really rate her a special anchor appearance on a Fox show? Ditto with Joe the Plumber — I also don’t like the shabby treatment he got, but enough with this elevating the “man on the street” to iconic status just because he got victimized. Yes, I am addressing this comment to Pajamas Media. In a world that now celebrates awful, narcissistic mediocrities on reality shows, do we have to play along, even if our “mediocrities” do have more character?