Baroness Tonge: Anti-Semitism in the House of Lords
Baroness Tonge, a member of the House of Lords, a former Liberal Democrat (left of center) member of the House of Commons, and until very recently the party’s spokesperson for public health affairs, is advising Israel to set up an independent inquiry on the alleged Israeli crimes in Haiti.
She really means it: Haiti. In the wake of the January 12 earthquake, the Israeli army sent an emergency surgical unit there. Its work elicited instant admiration from the media covering the devastation.
A dissenting voice was heard, however. AfriSynergy Productions, based in Seattle, claimed that the Israelis came to Haiti only in order to snatch organs and put them on the world human organ market for sale. A video of these libels was posted on YouTube, and that’s what Baronness Tonge had in mind on February 13 when, in an interview with — really — the London Jewish Chronicle, she said the following:
To prevent allegations such as these, which have already been posted on YouTube, going any further, the IDF and the Israeli Medical Association should establish an independent inquiry immediately to clear the names of the team in Haiti.
As far as law is understood by contemporary democratic standards, no charge can be introduced against a person, a group, or an organization without some serious preliminary scrutiny by legally empowered persons or bodies. Yet Baronness Tonge sees a YouTube rant as reasonable evidence for subjecting the Jewish State, its army, and its doctors to something very much like a second Gladstone report.
Nick Clegg, the Liberal-Democrat leader, dismissed Baroness Tonge as party spokesperson on February 17. Liberal-Democrat lords and members of Parliament said she should have been expelled from the party altogether. Indeed, this is not the first time she has been appalling: in 2004, when she still was known as the Liberal-Democrat member of Parliament Jennifer Louise Smith, she had already been dismissed as the party’s spokesperson on children for having said the following regarding suicide bombers:
If I had to live in that situation — and I say that advisedly — I might just consider becoming one myself.
Two years later, as a recently promoted member of the House of Lords, she said:
The pro-Israeli lobby has got its grips on the western world, its financial grips. I think they’ve probably got a grip on our party.
The then Liberal-Democrat leader Sir Menzies Campbell characterized such a statement as “anti-Semitic” and “unacceptable.” Likewise, various members of the House of Lords, including the spiritual lord George Carey, the Archbishop of Canterbury, noticed that Baroness Tonge was resorting to “a classic anti-Jewish conspiracy theory.” But no other steps were taken against her then, a fact that certainly encouraged her to express even more radical views and finally to obliquely endorse the canard that Israel is trafficking in human organs for transplants.
The Iranian news agency Irna disseminated such defamatory reports for the first time in 2002. In fact, it claimed that the Israelis were not just engaging in an unsavory human organ trade, but actually murdering Palestinians, including children, in order to supply customers. Similar reports have been constantly circulated ever since then — even by national newspapers like the Swedish Aftonbladet last year — and have become commonplace tools for anti-Semitic propagandists. They help in countering one of Israel’s best assets in terms of global communication: its achievements in science, medicine, and humanitarian activities. Another advantage is that they dovetail with age-old and well-rooted anti-Jewish myths, particularly the classic blood libel literature.
The facts are plain. There is such a thing as trafficking in human organs: from the very moment that transplants have developed into a safe medical practice, demand has been exceeding offer. There are Israeli traffickers: we know that because they have been tried, more often than not, by Israeli courts.
Israelis can be victims too. Levy Yitzhak Rosenbaum, a New Jersey U.S. citizen, was charged last year for running an American-Israeli human organ trafficking network. He acted as an intermediary, for a huge profit, between poor Jewish Israeli donors willing to sell an organ for a few thousand dollars and rich American customers prepared to pay more than one hundred and fifty thousand dollars.
And what about Iran? The Islamic Republic is the only country in the world that legalized — in 2006 — the commercial trade of human organs.
I think it was Carol Gould who posted on her before, and I will say here what I said then:
The only difference between Frau Tonge and the majority of Brits is that she is open and honest about her frothing, genocidal Jew-hatred. But most Brits are inflicted by it.
the Baroness is a disrace, I wonder why UK was so eager to set her as foreign minister of the EU, might be that the perfid Albion had in mind to ruin EU policies
and she earns 260 000 euros/yearly, now she is requesting a private jet, cuz the poor lady can’t manage to honor her world obligations
“Lady Ashton’s answer to her low profile: give me a plane. – David Charter’s story is generating lots of comment. http://bit.ly/agWDBf “
Three words: Antisemitic blood libel. (But thanks to Labor’s immigration policy, sharia law will triumph in England.)
Gee, I feel better now. . . At least we arent the only country saddled with s###bird politicans.. . .
the Baroness is a disrace, I wonder why UK was so eager to set her as foreign minister of the EU, might be that the perfid Albion had in mind to ruin EU policies. okay!!!!!!!!!
Israel bashing has become the norm…then again the israeli government is as murderous as the Nazis. Nazia operated on people to take their organs out for experiment so the isralei army surgeins are doing the same but for money…
Is she serious? She’s taking the word of a YouTube clip as gospel truth? I’m amazed.
I wonder why these evil people always attack the Jews. Hmmmm. Somebody out to write a book about it. Oh wait…
Well, if it’s true that IDF doctors are harvesting organs in Haiti, please send a new brain to Baroness Tonge ASAP. If it’s not true, surely a less anti-Jewish brain can be obtained in China or Iran for this ignorant wench???
Stupid woman! Doesn’t she know that the Jews aren’t the problem?
IT’S THE FREEMASONS! Also, their nefarious allies the Illuminati. and, and . . . those “V” lizardoids on ABC! Yeah . . . . THAT’s the ticket!
Oh, and I see that Baroness Tonge has tried to post anonymously at #6.
The only difference between Frau Tonge and the majority of Brits is that she is open and honest about her frothing, genocidal Jew-hatred. But most Brits are inflicted by it.
Oh, I wouldn’t say most. That’s somewhat unfair. I think it’s more like only half of Brits feel that way.
Let’s be tolerant, maybe she missed her medication for the day and it was that time of the month?
6…
please show us your proof..
This website has proved a real eye-opener when it comes to Jewish anti-anglo racism.
14, please explain.
I, personally, do not understand. Elaborate, anti-Anglo racism?
To Greying Wanderer:
The truth hurts about your beloved little bigoted Albion, doesn’t it?
Israel has admitted that it did harvest organs from dead Palestinians, Israeli soldiers and foreign workers.
The controversy is the claim Israeli soldiers killed people just for their organs,which they deny.There is no evidence of this.
They don’t deny what they did to those already dead.
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/world/israeli-army-admits-stealing-organs/story-e6frev00-1225812349031
It’s with this backdrop that Tonge made this comment.
‘Israel Defence Forces were to be commended for their fantastic response to the Haitian earthquake’
“To prevent allegations such as these — which have already been posted on YouTube — going any further, the IDF and the Israeli Medical Association should establish an independent inquiry immediately to clear the names of the team in Haiti.”
1. Eric R.:
‘The only difference between Frau Tonge and the majority of Brits is that she is open and honest about her frothing, genocidal Jew-hatred. But most Brits are inflicted by it.’
Carol Gould does not present a true picture of life here in the U.K.
She is open and honest about her frothing,genocidal British hatred.
There is a rise in Islamaphobia here,even Carole confirms this,watch this clip.Carole comes in at 7.30.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2ABBaMFkkA
Note that she recognises actions carried out by the State of Israel has caused anger against Jews.
The same with Muslims,after 9/11 there was hatred aimed at them all.
Racism/anti-semitism is hatred of people for who they are ,not for what they do .
I assume posters here who disagree with Obama do so only because he is black?
15. Anne:
I, personally, do not understand.
There is deep hatred for the British people on this site.
Just read eric{no.1) and his comment.
We get called ‘anti-American’. Can you blame us,when we supported you after 9/11,went to Iraq,still in Afghanistan but the rhetoric
here shows there is no ‘special relationship’.
the brits always appear to be wearing those artfully created tin foil hats on their heads, even when there’s nothing there.
it must be an aura from their mad incestuous royal lineage and the farm animals, without whom the sense of humour implicit in the magna carta never would have been thought up.
in any case, i would be careful harvesting any of their organs. anywhere in their persons or on it.
and, btw, where did all those bad teeth come from?
Mags
One’s view of how humane and democratic a nation is can usually be seen by how they view Israel and the Jews. (He who blesses the Jews shall be blessed….)
And in that test, Britain, never the most enlightened of nations when it comes to us Jews, is regressing quickly. Especially as Muslims grow rapidly in number and leftist thought comes to dominate your media.
We are fighting a war against Islam/Islamic terror/Jihad, whatever you want to call it. Israel is on the front line in that war. How well a nation is committed to fighting terror can be judged by whether they support Israel’s (and the Jews’) right to fight it.
By that standard, the UK flunks and flunks badly. Australia fares much, much better. Canada (at least under Harper) passes the test.
Bottom line is that fundamentally anti-Semitic, Arabophile states cannot ultimately be considered allies when crunch times comes.
It has not come yet — and I do not expect the UK to be on our side when it comes.
OK so maybe this counts as a rant and attempted hijack which the mods here should probably reject.
Yes there are these folks like the Baroness of Tongue over in the UK but she is small potatos. Really the UK, long may she wave and all that is not a key player in the fate or history of the Jewish people at this time.
What is really going on is much worse.
I have my bona-fides as a US jewish hard-core Am Yisroel Zionist whatever, the whole nine yards. That will stop the day I stop breathing.
So I pretend to write to the PM of Israel:
Bibi…WTF? You are not helping us here. I see no direction at all and doubt anyone is in control. You dissed the VP of the US? Are you nuts? I am worried. I think you got blindsided inside your own government. Maybe you should take a few days, you look tired.
Where are they now? Where is Ben Gurion?
Israel cannot stagnate. Sharon learned the lesson of the high ground the hard way. He also understood mobility, he left us too soon. The fishes and small animals I watched today stirring at the cusp of spring know the same thing. Time to move on.
I know the houses are about other issues. There are other places to build houses. I know enough of Jerusalem to understand what that place means. I know much less about it than you do.
So does that make me a left-wing troll? I do not know the time when peace will come. I only know that it must.
Shalom
Spin
Well they certainly control this conversation!
NO dissent allowed… this is another ‘free’ Republic.
So sad… because some of us are the Tea Party regulars you are trying to woo back to the GOP.
Not with this kind of censorship!!
G Marks:
Actually, this site is a lot more socially liberal/libertarian than Free Republic.
More proof that the sherry sippers with the bad teeth are finished.
Eric,
I have already written this once but it wasn’t printed.
‘One’s view of how humane and democratic a nation is can usually be seen by how they view Israel and the Jews. (He who blesses the Jews shall be blessed….)’
It’s because Israel is a democratic country that holds them to a higher standard.
They are supposed to be ‘like us’-a western democracy.
During apartheid in South Africa their government was judged differently from other brutal African leaders for the same reason.
Is this how a humane and democratic country should behave?
I would appreciate you watching it all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKEZ_fq561s&feature=related
Just claiming everybody is anti-semitic, and therefore support terrorism is unhelpful and it stifles debate on legitimate concerns.
‘How well a nation is committed to fighting terror can be judged by whether they support Israel’s (and the Jews’) right to fight it.’
We invaded Iraq ,we are still in Afghanistan,i will send your regards to the families of the two British soldiers killed today.
I will tell them that their sons where not fighting terrorism
because Eric says so.
The U.S. armed, funded and politically supported the I.R.A terrorists killing Irish and British citizens during their brutal campaign so don’t lecture us on terrorism.
‘Bottom line is that fundamentally anti-Semitic, Arabophile states cannot ultimately be considered allies when crunch times comes.’
Are you talking about allies of Israel,or allies of the U.S?
Please define ‘allie’
‘Canada (at least under Harper) passes the test.’
We used to do that in the playground .We are not interested in any test
Can we not critisize tactic’s used without getting abuse?
We have the right to disagree .
‘It has not come yet — and I do not expect the UK to be on our side when it comes.’
Thats not true but we know how that feels,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provisional_Irish_Republican_Army_arms_importation#American_arms
Read Judys comment 18
‘i would be careful harvesting any of their organs. anywhere in their persons or on it.
and, btw, where did all those bad teeth come from?’
If i said that about Israel i would be banned and on my way to Gitmo.
The IRA analogy is not a good one, since it was only a limited segment of the American population that supported them (Irish-Americans and some non-Celts on the left). Support in Britain for Hamas, Hezbollah and Fatah is far more widespread.
I certainly did not support them. I knew the IRA to be trained and funded by Communists and Islamofascists.
But isn’t it amazing how the IRA and the British are united when it comes to wanting Israel wiped off the map and the Jews exterminated?
It seems that hatred of Jews in Europe is the tie that binds.
Eric,
This is a bit long winded but i would appreciate you bearing with me,i have posted similar before.
Any funding of terrorist groups is wrong.We have laws in place,we share intelligence,recognise the groups as terrorist’s.
Our soldiers are dying in the war on terror to defeat these.
We have not invited Hamas etc to meet the Queen,unlike yourselves you gave the I.R.A it’s biggest platform-The White House.
I don’t think Americans realise what a huge deal this issue has and does still anger the British public.
Without this knowledge you have right to judge us.We have legitimate grievances.
Even George Bush himself said there is no difference from the terrorists and those countries that support it or turn a blind.
Remember,’with us ,or the with the terrorists’?
For more than 30 years,the I.R.A was bankrolled by donations from the USA — and in those 30 years the U.S would not extradite wanted and escaped terrorists to face charges here, despite our repeated requests.
Both federal and local US courts refused extradition requests while the funding of the IRA continued without interruption.
One charming chap ,Joe Doherty ,a convicted murderer who escaped jail was given political status,so even though he was convicted here,the U.S said it wasn’t murder it was a political crime.
We had to fight to get these wanted terrorists extradited
They even named a corner of a street in New York after him.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Doherty#cite_note-nyt3-11
The U.S gave visa’s to known I.R.A members to fund raise against our governments wishes.
Gerry Adams was given the keys to New York by Rudy Giuliani.
Bars in Boston had drinks called ‘kill a brit’ and ‘carbomb’(The I.R.A invented the road side bomb that is killing our soldiers and yours)
Weapons sent included semtex and surface to air missiles,we didn’t intercept them all.
Money was sent to help the families of killed or imprisoned ‘comrades’ and to keep their graves nice and tidy.
The IRA nearly killed Prime Minister Thatcher and her cabinet with a bomb in 1984, and it assassinated prominent British politicians and members of the royal family.
It was the I.R.A that said to Thatcher,’you have to be lucky all the time,we only have to be luckey once.’
Some action’s,
http://www.iraatrocities.fsnet.co.uk/Dissident_Republican_photo_album.htm
Rep. Peter King–for years, the congressman was alinged with “one of the most violent terrorist groups in recent European history”–the IRA
The politician once called the IRA “the legitimate voice of occupied Ireland,” he was banned from the BBC by British censors for his pro-IRA views, and he refused to denounce the IRA when one of its mortar bombs killed nine Northern Irish police officers. But Mr. King is now one of America’s most outspoken foes of terrorism.
He forged links with leaders of the IRA and Sinn Fein in Ireland, and in America he hooked up with Irish Northern Aid, known as Noraid, a New York based group that the American, British, and Irish governments often accused of funneling guns and money to the IRA.
He spoke regularly at Noraid protests and became close to the group’s publicity director, the Bronx lawyer Martin Galvin, a figure reviled by the British.
Much of the conventional weaponry and a great deal of the money necessary for IRA violence came from Irish-American sympathizers.
Mr. King’s advocacy of the IRA’s cause encouraged that flow and earned him the deep-seated hostility of the British and Irish governments
During his visits to Ireland, Mr. King would often stay with well-known leaders of the IRA, and he socialized in IRA drinking haunts.
At one of such clubs, the Felons, membership was limited to IRA veterans who had served time in jail.
Mr. King would almost certainly have been red-flagged by British intelligence as a result, but the experience gave him plenty of material for the three novels he subsequently wrote featuring the IRA.
The British people are not calling for Israel to be wiped of the map.
You are saying Americans that funded the I.R.A does not reflect you and others but want to condemn and insult us collectively for actions of a few.
Ant-Jew feelings have very strong in the UK for a very long time. This woman just spoke out loud.
This is one brave woman In the Usa the J lobby has shut down the first amendment in country founded on that freedom of speech ideal. Bravo Baroness Tonge