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Ban It Harder: Obama’s ‘Armor-Piercing Bullets’ Suggestion

This class of bullets is already illegal. Why does Obama suggest further legislation?

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Clayton E. Cramer

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March 12, 2013 - 12:00 am
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These guys probably couldn’t tell a rifle from a shotgun, or a semi-automatic pistol from a revolver, or jacketed hollow point from lead round nose ammunition without considerable coaching. Recall his considerable list of gaffes: this is a president who doesn’t know that Austrians speak Germanwho doesn’t know how to pronounce “corpsman”; and who thinks the United States invented the automobile.

There is one thing more dangerous than an arrogant, highly educated person, and that is an arrogant, ignorant person, because he doesn’t know he’s ignorant. I realize that in a democracy we are doomed to usually elect people just a little bit more informed than the voters; perhaps the voters are getting a lot less informed.

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Clayton E. Cramer teaches history at the College of Western Idaho. His most recent book is My Brother Ron: A Personal and Social History of the Deinstitutionalization of the Mentally Ill (2012). He is raising capital for a feature film about the Oberlin Rescue of 1858.

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All this started when Benghazi became an issue. I think Dems will go to any lengths to keep that scandal off the front page.
1 year ago
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Could it be that Barry, using this tired excuse of a talking point, has got little else and simply hacks-up a furball from the Clinton Era ? We're all pointedly aware of how many WJC employees are there now, Including One : Eric Holder.
We also recall how strident Saint Eric was in that former life, as a YouTube view or two clearly shows.
So, let us imagine that Barry had a Meaningful Catch Phrase contest and Mr. Law Enforcement,[and novice rifle importer] won the $ 50.00 dollars, and the Baskin-Robbins 2 for 1 coupon.
1 year ago
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My only disagreement with Mr. Cramer's article is his definition of "dangerous." The most dangerous people in the Country are those who voted aitch back IN! (Or worse, those who stayed home and LET him be voted back in!)
1 year ago
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It doesn't matter what they say, the end goal is a total ban on civilian possession of guns.

“They have the guns and therefore we are for peace and for reformation through the ballot. When we have the guns then it will be through the bullet.”
Vladimir Ilyich Lenin
1 year ago
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I see one commenter here prefacing his comment by saying that he is not going to go into “tin foil hat territory,” which I take to mean that he is not going to indulge in any of what the Left and their allies in the MSM, Academia, the Entertainment Industry, and a large chunk of Society at large defines as—and he apparently agrees is--“conspiracy theory nonsense.”

I submit that he, and many others on the Right, have bought into the “reality” that the Left and its allies have crafted, and to their arguments as well, and have accepted their definitions of just what is “acceptable,” and “rational” and “within the realm of possibility” to think of and to talk about and to debate, and what is, as the Left sees it, supposedly “outside of the realm of possibility,” “not possible,” and just plain old “crazy talk,” which is to say that they have allowed their opponents to define “reality,” and to set the boundaries, terms, definitions, and vocabulary of the debate, which is, in effect, to abandon the field and to surrender before the fight has even begun.

Thus, say many, to be extremely suspicious of the government’s reported recent purchase of close to 2 billion rounds (count ‘em) of hollow point ammunition, justified by government spokesmen as being for “target practice” (a 24 year supply, even at the “war level rate” that was expended during recent major U.S. military actions)—HP rounds specifically designed to be used against human targets, but more expensive and ill suited for use in “target practice” than the less expensive solid lead bullets customarily used for that purpose—is wildly over suspicious, “paranoid,” and just plain “crazy.”

Similarly, to be alarmed at and suspicious of the DHS’s reported purchase of some thousands of light armored vehicles for use here in the U.S. is also “paranoid” and “crazy,” and linking these two events even more paranoid and even more crazy, for we should all be guided by and made calm by the statements of various government spokesmen, who all "have our best interests at heart," and have assured us that these events are all very ordinary, and nothing at all to be suspicious of or alarmed about.

Adding to this the additional fact that Obama and his Administration and allies are--at the same time--bending their concerted efforts--on both the Federal and State levels--to pursue various “gun control" schemes that would limit each citizen’s right to bear arms, and make both guns and ammunition harder to obtain and more expensive, is obviously proof positive of dementia on the part of those suspicious of these developments.

No doubt the same was thought by many “right thinking,” “level-headed,” “educated,” urbane, sophisticated, and cultured, “reasonable, rational” individuals in any number of countries in past and recent history who watched, as the ever increasing flow of unusual, “unthinkable” event after event, and each new statement, law, regulation, and procedure, bit by bit, encroached on and limited their freedom, until that freedom disappeared, and they came under the rule of one tyranny or another, and saw their supply of and access to weapons—and their rights to and chances of self defense and freedom—vanish.
1 year ago
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Obama is just repeating the same words over and over again, along with all the other anti-gunners. They have the bully pulpit and want to take up as much time as possible, no matter how useless and senseless the words they speak. "Bully" in the current definition of the word applies more now than when Teddy Roosevelt first used the term.
1 year ago
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Progressives want to ban all privately owned fire arms. Any means necessary to achieve their goals are justified. Truth doesn't matter and the Constitution is simply a scrap of paper to them. One thing they do know is that without the 2nd Amendment, the Constitution falls and there is no limit to scope of their potential power. Stand and fight - Molon Labe!
1 year ago
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Will a .308 soft tip deer hunting round penetrate a soft body armor vest? I would assume a FMJ would do the trick.
1 year ago
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Yes. Several of them. And at distances where you will need a scope to clearly identify your target.
1 year ago
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Obama's call to ban "armor peircing" ammo is nothing new. The gun grabbers call for this all the time. The goal is to ban all "high power" ammo. Doubt it. If you watch crime shows on TV you'll see most scoped rifles refered to as "sniper" rifles. These are calls by people who know nothing about guns, don't want to know and don't care. All they know is they don't want us to keep ours!
1 year ago
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For what it's worth, I have shot a hole through 1/4-inch steel (at close range) with a round-ball from a black power rifle. This was not one of those spiffy modern ammo for black power -- like a jacketed sabot round -- just a plain, old-fashioned round-ball. So, does that mean we make lead and all of the hardening alloys controlled substances?
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